For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: a debate moderator clearly in the tank for one candidate?
The media bias for Obama at this point has become beyond unbelievable. Now it turns out that PBS's Gwen Ifill, who's scheduled to moderate Thursday's vice presidential debate, has a book coming out on inauguration day praising the Messiah.
I mean, c'mon. Shouldn't she be immediately replaced? Would the Obama campaign permit someone to moderate this debate if it was revealed that he or she had a book coming out on inauguration day praising McCain?
Honestly, folks, what the heck is going on in our nation when one political party has so taken over the media? Doesn't this represent a threat to our very democracy?
Comments Policy
Yes, Gwen should be
October 1, 2008 - 09:00 ET by Clear thinkerYes, Gwen should be replaced, but it won't happen. You and I both know the media thinks they can be neutral while having a million dollar bet floating on the subject at hand.
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Gwen Ifill
October 1, 2008 - 09:04 ET by GothampcOn top of being in the tank for Obama, Gwen Ifill just broke her ankle. Yet she's going to persevere and "moderate" the debates because she's already planned her "gotcha" questions to make Governor Palin look bad.
See this proves my point...
October 1, 2008 - 09:11 ET by c5thenSee how hard it is to 'walk the fence' when you are not used ot it.
Hey, PBS paid good money to get this setup
October 1, 2008 - 09:08 ET by c5thenEven if they replaced her, who would they pick? Bill Moyers?
Watch the debate on FoxNews, at least the post-debate analysis will discuss this issue. No other network will even mention it I predict.
No....Bill Maher? Wouldnt
October 1, 2008 - 10:06 ET by KevpotNo....Bill Maher? Wouldnt surprise me....
What
October 1, 2008 - 10:38 ET by general companyHey, PBS paid good money to get this setup
PAID? Well just who's money were they using?
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
The first Presidential
October 1, 2008 - 09:10 ET by Dan The Man 2The first Presidential debate surprised me and was pretty much nuetral. I think we should hold our opinions and see if the debate moderator can be nuetral. That said I believe one of teh debates should have been moderated by Brit Hume. I wonder how the left would howl if teh debate were moderated by Bill O or even better Sean "attack dog" Hanity.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
hold our opinions and
October 1, 2008 - 09:17 ET by motherbelthold our opinions and see????
And if she proves to be biased, than what? Complain after the fact? When any complaints would be labeled as whining?
No way Obama or even Biden would accept a moderator who wrote a book on McCain!
If she is biased . . .
October 1, 2008 - 09:32 ET by Gat New York. . . then I would hope that Palin has been coached to call her on it and turn it against her in the debate.
However, of all the moderators my least concern was Ifill who has a record of being fair in her debate questioning.
I am much more concerned about rabid leftists like Scheiffer and Brokaw. These two are heavily in the Obama camp and one has to wonder what the McCain was thinking in going along with this selection and why no Wallace or Hume.
Good points. In a fair and
October 1, 2008 - 10:14 ET by celatorGood points. In a fair and responsible MSM world, you would think they would strive vigorously to remove even the possibility of perceived bias. But they are so in-the-tank for Obama and controlling the outcome of this election, the MSM doesn't even bother to hide their bigotry toward conservatism, pro-life issues anymore. Really amazing times, aren't they?
I'd like to be an historian 50 years from now, to write the story of the MSM skullduggery in this election. I'd also report all the money sent to off-shore bank accounts (or sweetheart mortgage deals) members of the MSM had received from left wing fund raising groups. I really believe that has happened.
The major media report only half the news. Why are they surprised they have only half the potential audience?
There is always the
October 1, 2008 - 09:25 ET by bassndudeThere is always the possibility that she may injure her tongue today and have to bow out of the moderator position. Then, perhaps Rush Limbaugh will be free to sub.
Put the shoe on the other foot, for a change.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
If word got out the Rush
October 1, 2008 - 11:26 ET by AJIf word got out the Rush Limbaugh subbed in, the media would commit ritualistic suicide.
Which would be more than
October 1, 2008 - 11:37 ET by bigtimerWhich would be more than delicious, now wouldnt it?
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Exactly. I love it when
October 1, 2008 - 11:45 ET by AJExactly. I love it when the media is dumbstruck. I don't know why but I think of Chris Matthews when the media is reeling from being blind-sided.
Matthews: "Good morning, fellow comrades. The Peoples Media was complete taken aback when democracy kicked in today."
due to years of MSM
October 1, 2008 - 14:33 ET by TruthMongerdue to years of MSM disadvantage - at least onservatives are stronger at articulating truth in the face of the enemy
Journalism is the opium of the liberals
Obama as a weapon
October 1, 2008 - 09:12 ET by ricklailI read this over on Boortz this morning. I makes a lot od sense;
Speaking of The Chosen One? Have you ever heard of a presidential candidate as a weapon before? I'm starting to see a real patter in the email to the Boortz Show; threatening email. Generally the line goes something like ... "You people (the evil rich) just wait until Barack Obama is president .. then we'll take care of you." Well, yeah. Right now I fully expect Obama to become our next president, thanks to the immaturity of the American voter .. and I fully expect the evil, nasty, disgusting rich to come under full attack from many fronts when that happens. Let's just see how that works out for us.
"Yeah, stupid only comes second in the short list of what one can reasonably expect from a Democrat." The Dissident Frogman (France)
DUCT TAPE ALERT!!
October 1, 2008 - 09:33 ET by motherbeltSaw that, rick....
And just when you think it can't get worse, it does.
Boortz also has this today:
YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME
Considering everything that we are experiencing, and knowing the reasons why
we have gotten to this point – the government forcing private institutions to
increase homeownership for people who couldn't afford it in the first place –
now we get this ... at a time when our financial market is supposed to be in
"crisis," when the taxpayers may have to shell out billions of dollars to
bailout financial institutions in this country we get this little news release:
La Raza "The Race", folks. This "Hispanic advocacy group" calls for the
secession of a Hispanic-only homeland. Note, please, the reference to
"affordable housing."
Che G. would be so proud.
October 1, 2008 - 10:27 ET by SickofLibsChe G. would be so proud.
motherbelt:
October 1, 2008 - 11:05 ET by j. frank wilsonYou claim La Raza "...calls for the secession of a Hispanic-only homeland." Do you have any proof of that, or do you just toss around slurrs?
It's a lie. If it were true, however, how would that philosophy differ from the party Todd Palin was a member of for several years?
100s of places
October 1, 2008 - 11:14 ET by SouthJersey1953[troll filter off]
J Frank - get your head out of the sand. There are hundreds of places where La Raza is mentioned in "secession of the Southwest" stories by and about members of La Raza. Here is one link: http://www.diversityalliance.org/docs/article_secede_000308.html
[troll filter on]
McCain/PALIN '08
PALIN/Jindal '12
SouthJersey 1953:
October 1, 2008 - 12:20 ET by j. frank wilsonYour link is worthless. The fact that the La Raza organization is "mentioned" in a story about sucession is meaningless. Todd Palin's name is mentioned in stories about the AIP - does than mean Gov. Palin supports it?
One more time: motherbelt doesn't have a source to prove La Raza advocates a Hispanic homeland carved out of US land. That's a rightwingnut myth. You don't have proof, either...
You do not live in the
October 1, 2008 - 12:41 ET by BDYou do not live in the southwest, do you J Frank?
You do not live in the
October 1, 2008 - 15:27 ET by Dan The Man 2You do not live in the southwest, do you J Frank - Hmmm, if by defining live you mean Dawn of th Dead type he may. I look at the posts he makes and wonder if he is indeed alive or at least his brain.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Well, that could be, but I
October 1, 2008 - 15:41 ET by BDWell, that could be, but I ask because one could not possibly live out here and question the Laraza desire to return the Desert Southwest to Mexico.
C'mon guys. In libspeak,
October 1, 2008 - 15:48 ET by HermanoC'mon guys. In libspeak, this really only means joining another country, not seceding from the US. After all, isn't that the very definition of succeeding? Whoopi says it is so, so it must be true.
The Newsbusters Comments Crew: Saving the Environment - One Ribeye at a Time! h/t Dr_Liberty
First of all, those were
October 1, 2008 - 13:19 ET by motherbeltFirst of all, those were not my words. That was part of the posting from Neal Boortz that I brought over.
And if you are interested, you can start here
PS...it ain't a slur if it's true.
motherbelt:
October 1, 2008 - 13:54 ET by j. frank wilsonSo you try to duck responsibility for what you post?
Well, if Mr. Boortz said it then it must be true! What was I thinking? You post a 2006 opinion piece and call it a fact?
Did you know the claims of Rep. Norwood have been completely discredited?Gee - maybe you should ask the organization being libeled if these wild accusations are true.
They are not. Here are the facts:
The National Council of La Raza does not support a separatist movement:
http://www.nclr.org/section/separatist/
The NCLA does not support "reconquista"
http://www.nclr.org/section/reconquista/
Gee - that was tough. Actually check out the organization and see what it has to say for itself. Instead, you'd rather listen to that idiot Boortz and lap up his hateful bile. A lovely image...
That's good enough for me, frank.
October 1, 2008 - 14:29 ET by KarmaDemocrats don't support socialism either. Why? Because they say so.
Same reason they support
October 1, 2008 - 14:33 ET by BuffNBoneSame reason they support the war -- because they say so. Trust but verify always has a nice ring to it.
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
Oh, come on, people!
October 1, 2008 - 18:48 ET by CortillaenYou forgot the best one: Islam is a religion of peace. Why? 'Cause they say so while others blow themselves up.
*awaits charges of "islamaphobe" and/or "religionist"*
www.daybydaycartoon.... Proving that conservative comedy is very real.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." - Miyamoto Musashi
Geez frank,
October 1, 2008 - 18:41 ET by HillbillyKingif it comes from their website it has to be true then, right?
So, following your "logic" then what these guys say is also true;
http://www.whitehono...
http://www.stormfron...
Remember frank, actions speak louder than words.
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
Oops.
October 1, 2008 - 10:03 ET by Par for the CourseI wonder what this guy thinks about half of the "evil rich" supporting Obama. Oops, he probably only means the "evil rich" that are going to vote for McCain.
I am reposting this here
October 1, 2008 - 09:14 ET by motherbeltI am reposting this here for anyone who didn't see it in the other thread, h/t Michelle Malkin:
Ask the Commission on Presidential Debates if she will acknowledge her conflict of interest: 202-872-1020.
And here’s the e-mail address of Janet H. Brown, Executive Director of the Debates Commission: jb@debates.org
Palin should do this:
October 1, 2008 - 09:18 ET by Redrowan2000I copied this from a comment on Greta van Suterns website , but it was so good this is what Palin should do if they don't replace the obvious in the tank Ifill
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Here’s how to have Palin open the debate. As part of her opening comments she should say:
“And, Gwen, congrats on the publication of your new book “The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama ” and how it will shedd new light on the impact of Barack Obama’s stunning presidential campaign and how it introduced young African American politicians forging a bold new path to political power. You must be very excited about it’s release on the day John McCain will be inaugurated! Please, folks, let’s take a quick moment and give Gwen a round of applause!!”
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
Red
Greta
October 1, 2008 - 10:07 ET by NorthCoasterGreta is right on the mark. Sarah needs to use this approach as well as John to set them back on their heels.
The truth will set them free! Shout it from the mountaintops
I Love This Idea!!!
October 1, 2008 - 11:46 ET by Secret ConservativeI have already sent an email to Janet Brown, but since they most likely will not remove Gwen Ifill as moderator (after all, it is RACIST to think that a black woman who has book royalties riding on the outcome of the election can't be fair and balanced) then I like the idea of Sarah putting Ifill on the defensive from the get-go.
Yes, the state of the
October 1, 2008 - 09:24 ET by Ruths husband BenYes, the state of the media does represent the severest threat to our way of life. There are many wealthy conservatives (at least if you believe the liberal hype). Why more of them don't own media outlets(vis-à-vis Ted Turner), I don't know.
Foxnews shows that there is a market for conservatively slanted news.
As a country though, we are in for a long sad period when the Obamessiah gets elected and barring a miracle (say, like the MSM actually investigating him and his closeacquaintances) it looks very likely.
“But maybe you obviously have a better memory about that."- Wolf Blitzer
There is no excuse for this
October 1, 2008 - 09:25 ET by jdhawkThere is no excuse for this on the part of the McCain campaign. What could they have been thinking to allow anyone from PBS to mediate this debate? Why is anyone shocked that she is in the tank for bambi (aka 57 states)?
Nothing New Here
October 1, 2008 - 09:27 ET by mbs6Every Presidential debate moderator and VP debate moderator in my entire lifetime has been in the tank for the Dem. At the very least, I'll bet none of them has ever voted for the Republican candidate. Yes, it's irritating that (schockingly) Ifill is in the tank for Obama, but even more annoying is that the Republicans continue to allow this coup by the left. The future of the country hangs in the balance, and they allow the left to control the whole platform. They should demand that two of the moderators be conservative. During the RNC convention I heard the phrase "the Democrats and their friends in the media" spoken several times. How about backing up the accusation by not participating in debates which are essentially traps given completely from liberal points-of-view, by liberal "journalists."
Bob Schieffer
October 1, 2008 - 09:41 ET by mbs6Replying to my own message, Bob Schieffer is moderating one of the upcoming presidential debates and back in the 80s he wrote a book basically saying Reagan was the stupidest person to ever occupy the oval office. Here's the URL: http://www.amazon.co...
Also, when the moderators were announced, the people at Huffington Post were upset that a conservative like Schieffer should be allowed to moderate! I kid you not: http://www.huffingto...
Read the comments down at the very bottom and you will see some of the geniuses over there think Schieffer is a Republican! LOL!
It is NOT beyond Believable - - It is Beyond ACCEPTABLE
October 1, 2008 - 09:29 ET by JayTeeWhere is this Debate located ? Is it close enough for me to demonstrate outside the forum with me holding an "IN THE TANK" Sign ?
The Republican Revolution will not be Televised
Keith Olbermann
October 1, 2008 - 09:35 ET by P.J. GladnickMaybe they will replace Gwen Ifill with Keith Olbermann.
Nonprofit Means Nonpartisan
October 1, 2008 - 09:36 ET by NoMoreClintonsAny decision to replace this biased and conflicted "reporter" is not up to "the media" as some here must mistakenly believe. It is up to the Commission on Presidential Debates, a non-profit 501(c)(3) corporation. Tax laws say that: Organizations with this classification are prohibited from conducting political campaign activities to influence elections to public office.
It would seem that if they don't scramble to replace this ill-suited moderator that they could be jeopardizing their status as a nonprofit because one could make a case that by allowing this woman to perform as moderator, now knowing her all-too-apparent conflict of interest and favoritism towards the 0bama campaign, that they are attempting to "influence" the election. It couldn't be any plainer.
Gwen I fill in for O'bamaroni
October 1, 2008 - 09:44 ET by abbendigoJust FYI, These are the sponsors for the debate.
Anheuser-Busch Companies
BBH New York
The Howard G. Buffet Foundation
Sheldon S. Cohen, Esq.
EDS, an HP Company
International Bottled Water Association
The Kovler Fund
Kaiser Family Foundation
YWCA USA
(taken from the debate.org website
"Honestly, folks, what the
October 1, 2008 - 09:45 ET by Indiana Joe"Honestly, folks, what the heck is going on in our nation when one political party has so taken over the media? Doesn't this represent a threat to our very democracy?"
Exactly the point I make here.
"To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection." - H. Poincaré
Doesn't this represent a threat to our very democracy?
October 1, 2008 - 10:01 ET by R D HelmDoesn't this represent a threat to our very democracy?
No, but it is a direct threat to our once fair republic. :-^)
I guess McCain was still in full "reach across" mode when his handlers negotiated this insanity.
_________________________________
I don't know about the rest of you here at NB, but I am beginning to sense this whole thing is irreparably slipping away from McCain.
Regardless of outcome of the VP debate tomorrow night, McCain has to slam the door hard on Obama in the next presidential debate. I'm talking take-no-prisoners here.
If he goes out there and plays nice, as he did in the first debate, it may very well mean curtains for him next month.
I don't have to tell you what that will mean for all of us. :-O
-Dave
Fear makes people do weird things....it makes their brains stop working. - Dave Ramsey
My troll fuse length today: 0.5cm (but it won't last long)
RD do not succumb to the MSM koolaide news barrage.
October 1, 2008 - 10:06 ET by JayTeeRESIST the waterboarding ! . do not succumb to the Democratic Torture machine !
Polls from less than 1,000 Americans do not a President Elect !
The Republican Revolution will not be Televised
JayTee, I wish it was just the polling data.
October 1, 2008 - 10:13 ET by R D HelmUnfortunately, I am basing this on my daily interactions with the general public.
A clueless people, we have become.
-Dave
Fear makes people do weird things....it makes their brains stop working. - Dave Ramsey
My troll fuse length today: 0.5cm
RD I have worked East Coast/West Coast / Middle USA IN 2008
October 1, 2008 - 10:43 ET by JayTeeI found a quiet Anger in the workplace East/West, But . . it was out in the Open in Middle America.
I still get Angry Conservative E mails from the East Coast. . .and King County Wa. is hated by all who surround it . . .look for Republican inroads in Wa. State. Gov on down.
Pa. is full of Republicans . .America is full of Patriots !
The Republican Revolution will not be Televised
"I guess McCain was still
October 1, 2008 - 10:12 ET by Kevpot"I guess McCain was still in full "reach across" mode when his handlers negotiated this insanity."
Seems more like 'reach around' mode...
All of the Moderators
October 1, 2008 - 10:02 ET by NorthCoasterAll of the moderators should be balanced journaliststs not editorialists. If that isn't possible, then each part should choose a mediator to ask questions of the other so that all questions can be allowed to be biased against the participants.
Kill the Senate Bailout Today - It Gets Worse!
October 1, 2008 - 10:12 ET by PopularTechSenate to Vote Today on the Bailout Plan
Looks like they are already planning to make this much worse!
"including tax credits for the production and use of renewable energy sources, like solar energy and wind power."
They will not drill but have no problem throwing our tax money are worthless energy sources! This will only get worse once it gets to the house..
"House officials spent much of Tuesday considering their own changes, including an extension of unemployment pay and a $1,000 tax credit for less affluent homeowners."
Yet it does nothing to address the problems in the original bill! Don't get me wrong the AMT extension is nice but it is not worth $700 Billion more in inflation.
KILL THE BAILOUT - CALL AND EMAIL YOUR SENATORS:
Call Your Representative + Senator - U.S. Capitol Switchboard: 202-224-3121
Email Your Representative + Email Your Senator
"I don’t see (subprime mortgage market troubles) imposing a serious problem. I think it’s going to be largely contained"
- Henry Paulson, U.S. Treasury Secretary, April 2007
Ron Paul explains why the bailout is a bad idea on Fox Business News (Video) (10min)
Peter Schiff - We're Broke! (Video) (4min) (Peter Schiff, B.S. Finance and Accounting, President Euro Pacific Capital)
Peter Schiff laughed at on Fox News in 2006 (Video) (4min)
The Housing Bubble (Case-Shiller index)
- California Home Prices Drop Record 41% Amid Defaults (Bloomberg)
- Home Prices Drop Record 16.3 Percent (MoneyNews)
- Record 1.2 Million Homes Hit by Foreclosure (MoneyNews)
231 Economists Sign a Letter Against Paulson's Plan
A Bailout We Don't Need (James K. Galbraith, Ph.D. Economics)
An Open Letter to Congress on the $700B Paulson Bailout Plan (Michael Shedlock, Investment Advisor)
Bailouts will lead to rough economic ride (Ron Paul, Economics Scholar)
Bankruptcy, not bailout, is the right answer (Jeffrey Miron, Ph.D. Economics, MIT)
Can Congress Fix A Problem It Caused? (Thomas Sowell, Ph.D. Economics)
Can the Rescue Plan Fix the US Economy? (Frank Shostak, Ph.D. Economics)
Conservatives Should Oppose Corporate Welfare (Robert Murphy, Ph.D. Economics)
Credit Is Flowing, Sky Is Not Falling, Don’t Panic (Robert Higgs, Ph.D. Economics)
Doing Something? (John Berlau, B.S. Economics, Director Center for Entrepreneurship)
Don't Bail Them Out (Lew Rockwell, Economist)
How to Avoid Another Depression (Mark Thornton, Ph.D. Economics)
In Financial Food Chains, Little Guys Can’t Win (Ben Stein, B.S. Economics)
Let Risk-Taking Financial Institutions Fail (Ari J. Officer, M.S. Financial Mathematics, Lawrence H. Officer, Ph.D. Professor of Economics)
No bailout necessary (Earl Thompson, Ph.D. Professor of Economics)
No Bailouts: Let the Hammer Fall (Johnnie B. Byrd, B.S. Business Administration)
Not Buying It (Steven Landsburg, Ph.D. Professor of Economics)
Republicans on the Left and Democrats on the Right (Ivan Eland, M.B.A. Applied Economics)
Scaring Us to Death (Walter E. Williams, Ph.D. Professor of Economics)
The Great Bank Robbery of 2008 (Robert Murphy, Ph.D. Economics)
The Idiocy of Wall Street: Applauding Its Own Demise (Don A Rich, Professor of Economics)
The Rescue Package Will Delay Recovery (Frank Shostak Ph.D. Economics)
The Wall Street Bulls Are Lying to You (David Frazier, B.S. Finance and Economics)
U.S. government should bail out of bailouts (Craig R. Smith, CEO Swiss America Trading Corporation)
U.S. on reverse socialism path (Ronald Solberg, Ph.D. Economics)
Wall Street Socialism (Alvaro Vargas Llosa, M.A. Economics)
Why Paulson is wrong (Luigi Zingales, Ph.D. Economics)
BB&T CEO John Allison slams bailout plan (Baltimore Business Journal)
Ben Stein: Stop the Wall Street Looting (MoneyNews)
Bert Ely Banking industry expert: Bailout Not Necessary (MoneyNews)
Jim Rogers: Bailout Idea a Disaster (MoneyNews)
Newt Gingrich: Kill the Paulson Plan. Hard. (U.S. News and World Report)
Robert Shiller: Bailout Plan a Blank Check (MoneyNews)
Senator Bunning Blasts "Financial Socialism" (Canada Free Press)
Henry Paulson, CEO Goldman Sachs (1999-2006)
Bank of America: 'Paulson Plan Benefits Mostly Goldman, Morgan' (Seeking Alpha)
Paulson & Bernanke: Financial Dictators (Ludwig Von Mises Institute)
Why Henry Paulson must be "contained" (Michelle Malkin)
Vitter just e-mailed me
October 1, 2008 - 10:57 ET by general companyVitter just e-mailed me back, he wont be supporting it
This is a portion of his note
First, it is an unprecedented government bailout that will almost certainly pave the way for even more government bailouts at the expense of the American taxpayer - maybe sooner rather than later. Second, it requires people at Treasury to make tens of thousands of judgment calls about what they buy and for how much. The people making these decisions will be people from Wall Street who want to go back, causing great concern for biases and even corruption. Third, there has been no adequate discussion of the major reforms needed. I am afraid this big government first step helps ensure that Congress will not make those strong reforms - like breaking up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and requiring cash down for home purchases. I believe we should work to address the root cause of these problems so we can avoid future widespread economic troubles instead of simply expecting American taxpayers to pay the bill.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
For old times sake,
October 1, 2008 - 18:57 ET by HillbillyKingLooks like they are already planning to make this much worse!
"including tax credits for the production and use of renewable energy sources, like solar energy and wind power."
here's some of the reasons why it's a bad idea;
Solar
- Solar Power is the most expensive way to generate electricity (the
levelized cost of a kilowatt hour is 3.53 cents for coal, 5.47 cents
for gas, 5.94 cents for nuclear, 6.64 cents for wind and 35-50 cents
for solar unsubsidized) (Source)
- Commonly Available Solar Panels Are Only 12% Efficient (Source)
Cloudy Outlook For Solar Panels: Costs Substantially Eclipse Benefits, Study Shows (Science Daily)
Expert Foresees 10 More Years Of Research & Development To Make Solar Energy Competitive (Science Daily)
Solar panels 'take 100 years to pay back installation costs' (The Independent, UK)
Solar Power Problems Part 1 - Solar Power Presents Many Hurdles to Consumers (The Heartland Institute)
Solar Power Problems Part 2 - Home Solar Power Fails Due to Practical Difficulties (The Heartland Institute)
Solar Power Problems Part 3 - Inefficiencies Deter Widespread Use of Solar Power (The Heartland Institute)
Solar-Powered Welfare (Cato Institute)
The False Promises of Solar Energy (Michael R. Fox, Ph.D. Physical Chemistry)
The Problems With Solar Power (Worcester Business Journal)
Wind
Catch the Wind, Change the Weather (The New York Times)
Energy Answer is Not 'Blowing in the Wind' (The Heartland Institute)
Homeowners living near windfarms see property values plummet (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
Hot Air and Wind (Cato Institute)
Greenpeace Opposes Wind Farm Plan (BBC)
More Failures of Wind Energy (Hawaii Reporter)
Overblown: The Real Cost of Wind Power (Energy Tribune)
Poverty fears over wind power (BBC)
Problems With Wind Power (National Center for Policy Analysis)
Report blows hole in wind power plan (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
Switch to windpower could add £6 billion a year to fuel bills (The Times, UK)
The True Cost of Electricity from Wind Power And Windmill "Availability" Factors (Glen R. Schleede, Minnesotans For Sustainability)
Urban wind turbines 'may be waste of time' (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
US gets ready to blow its economy away (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
When the wind stops - the other side of the wind turbine argument (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
Wind Energy Will Not Reduce US Oil Dependence (Glen R. Schleede, Minnesotans For Sustainability)
Wind Farm Claims Are So Much Hot Air (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
Wind Farms fail to deliver value for money, report claims (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
Wind Farms, hot air and spin (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
Wind Farms May Not Lower Air Pollution, Study Suggests (The New York Times)
Wind Farms: One of the great deceptions of our time (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
Wind Jammers (The Wall Street Journal)
Wind Power: Economic insanity of the Government's renewable energy strategy (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
Wind Power: Red Not Green (National Center for Policy Analysis)
Wind Power will push up household electricity bills (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
(as always, H/T to PT for doing the real work, I just cut and paste)
Oh, and PT, remember to keep your weapon clean, otherwise all that ammo will just go to waste. :-}
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
Well, folks, I gotta go to work. :-(
October 1, 2008 - 10:09 ET by R D HelmI am posting a link to today's Nuze page, as there is just too much good stuff there to ignore. Boortz is on a roll.
LOL-Be sure to check out the mug shot about halfway down the page.
Ya'll have a great day!
-Dave
Fear makes people do weird things....it makes their brains stop working. - Dave Ramsey
My troll fuse length today: 0.5cm
Yes, I include Joe
October 1, 2008 - 10:47 ET by Fist of EtiquetteIf you disqualify from the debate everyone not in the tank for Obama, it's just going to be Palin and Biden sitting there, unmoderated.
Surprise???
October 1, 2008 - 11:11 ET by cvgbuckeyeWhy in the world would this surprise ANYONE; let alone regulars at newsbusters?
Christmas tree getting filled...quickly
October 1, 2008 - 11:13 ET by bigtimerWell the good old bail-out bill is getting filled rather quickly in the latest report...
Yep, they have to add their earmarks...
Look at this folks...you won't believe it...
This link is from Hot Air...
This started out a 3 pg. bill, then to 110 in the House, now it is up to 450 pages in the Senate...
And they want to call this a rescue bill...
These people are insane...
I am calling Tom Coburns office today...hoping he will filibuster this bill!
Color me furious!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
bt... sounds like these old farts are taking too much
October 1, 2008 - 11:47 ET by Gary Hallbt... sounds like these old farts are taking too much.. VIAGRA. It just keeps getting longer and longer...
Wooden Arrows
October 1, 2008 - 11:56 ET by bigtimerGary, can you believe some of these earmarks....
Wooden arrows for children to play with getting taxed, you know that has to be a tree hugger...
Rum having an excise tax on it from other places...
Something about wool....
...on and on...
Believe me, this is horrendous...and people had better pay attention and call before they vote this evening.
I am waiting a few hours to call Coburns office to give it some time, to see what he thinks of all of this...I know if anybody that has the guts to filibuster this BS inserted that have nothing to do with this bail-out, he would.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
BT: Thank you for the
October 1, 2008 - 13:25 ET by stratmanBT:
Thank you for the link. OUTRAGEOUS! These idiots, our idiots, are more concerned about bribing each other than putting out a straight piece of legislation without pork.
They just can't help themselves anymore. Therefore, perp-walk the SOB's out of their offices for failure in their fiduciary duties to the public, extortion and bribery.
Also, the most recent update to your link states Coburn voted FOR this mess. That's how bad the fix is in for this "crap sandwich" (John Boehner's words).
Hi Strat... How could
October 1, 2008 - 13:35 ET by bigtimerHi Strat...
How could they say Sen. Coburn voted for this...when they haven't even voted yet in the Senate...they don't vote until tonight, unless they are talking about some congressman in the House.
I would truly be shocked if he voted yes with what is in it.
I will have to check into this, was it maybe a floor speech this morning?
I cannot imagine him doing this, at all.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
From your link (last
October 1, 2008 - 13:52 ET by stratmanFrom your link (last paragraph):
Now I'm confused too. Does Coburn "support it" prior to a vote or did he actually vote for the bill? Or is this statement about some other bill than the current one in consideration?
Bigtimer, I will defer to your expertise in this area.
strat... My expertise...I
October 1, 2008 - 14:11 ET by bigtimerstrat...
My expertise...I don't have any expertise...I learned long ago to quit being shocked by some of the critters in congress and their votes...as maddening and sad as it is at times...
I went to his site and read what was written on the 29th about this issue...but that was two days ago now, so a lot has been added and I tried his office and it is busy, I will not stop trying to get through either...along with with some other Senators who I want to talk to, well their staffers in the office.
Anyway, thanks for this info. I'll get back to this and let you know what he says now about all of this if I get through that is...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
strat... I just got
October 1, 2008 - 14:54 ET by bigtimerstrat...
I just got through...his staffer says he doesn't know now how he will vote, that his is going through all the added additions of earmarks now...
I told him how I felt, we talked for about five minutes...
I don't know, guess we shall see in about three or so hours from now I guess...
I also explained that if anyone in the Senate was going to stop this madness with all the pork it had to be him, that he would be a hero out here to us that are against this getting crammed down our throats, that I hoped he would filibuster this...
anyway...anyone else that knows the work of Dr. Coburn and feel the same the number is 202-224-5754...we need all the help we can get...
For those of you who haven't seen the outrageous pork added look here, this is from Hot Air...you cannot believe it!
...this isn't a bail-out, it's graft for votes...that we pay for.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Earmarks for Exxon Valdez "victims?"
October 1, 2008 - 11:55 ET by Indiana JoeIn Alaska? From 1989???
You catch that? Palin's evil hand again!
How long before this is front-page news, with a "special report" from Chrissy and Keiffy?
5...4...3...2...
"To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection." - H. Poincaré
IJ... I haven't had time
October 1, 2008 - 12:11 ET by bigtimerIJ...
I haven't had time to go through everything since it has been updated, I heard about this on Fox Business this morning, I was furious...
These people just do not quit, they just do business as usual and think we are all dumb out here...and they wonder why we are outraged...
the timing of this vote this evening to makes me angry...
Btw...they lose in the Supreme Ct. with the billions of dollars reduced they wanted for the so-called victims of the Valdez oil spill for Exxon to pay, if anybody realized how much they have already invested and paid out, they wouldn't believe it.
You should of seen the outright stealing, graft whatever term you want to use during the oil spill that Exxon was charged ect...I could write a book...I worked on the oil spill, Seward became the hub of the work center form Prince William Sound...
They never quit...
This whole thing with the earmarks is absolutely outrageous...let alone the Bail-Out bill to begin with...
... I listened to them all I could stand yesterday on the Senate floor saying we need to change the name to the Rescue package, saying the