A few more polls which show the same result, then I will believe it. It is easy to go back almost 3 decades and blame Jimmy Carter or one decade and blame Bill Clinton, but this financial meltdown happened on the Bush administrations watch and it did not happen at the beginning either, it happenned at the end, after building record deficits and a 10 trillion dollar national debt.

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Any poll conducted by any of the MSM (ABC and the Compost) is about as reliable as Olbermann's good sense.

Sounds like they are truly desperate, and they are aware that Obama is not doing well in other polls, so they inflate this poll to show everything is okay.

The next six weeks are going to be ugly.

Drill ANWAR

As I like to say...so, should we now cancel the elections and declare Obama PFL?  As much as I think the media would be filled with glee at that prospect, I like the idea of just holding the election anyway.

Just got my new voter registration card today after my move.  Now I am counting down to 20 October, when I can cast my vote to stop Socialism in its tracks by not voting for Socialists.  The card is pinned to my refrigerator door as a reminder.    

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

How do you expect McCain to gain any kind of traction with the constant throbbing of the MSM against him and their fawning over the worst presidential candidate in the history of this nation?

This is awful. Obama is going to win and take office believing he has a mandate. His arrogance as a leader will be over the top.

Capitalism is dead. Freedom will follow it to the grave.

The nine point lead is possible, but with 18% of the voters still undecided it is a non-issue.  Besides, when you look at the "key" state polls, the race is still a dead heat.

The Republicans are going to take a lot of heat because of the financial mess, mostly because there is going to be precious little information given on where the mess actually had its origins.  This could cost McCain in the short run, but a strong showing in the upcoming debates could more than make up for any damage done here. 

That which does not kill me had best render me incapable of returning fire.

Rasmussen Tracking poll has Obama up by 2. Battleground Tracking poll has McCain up by 2 as well. Which one is correct? Both? Nether?

All this really means is that the polls don’t really reflect the actual standing of ether candidate in the general public. We’ll know who the people REALLY favor on Nov. 5th. Until then, it’s all just guesswork.

Obama: My job is above my pay grade

...hit hard with all the ties that former Clintonites have to Fannie and Freddie and the money that flowed to Dodd and Obama. He needs to tell forcefully, about the dems standing in the way of attempted reforms. He cannot sit back on this.
This is an area where the MSM really helps the big O. They will not report the complete story of this and some people are going to be taken in by the incompleteness presesnted.
Dan
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Normally I don't root for the disease. But in your case I am willing to make and exception.

Washington Post/ABC polling notoriously begins a "push poll" effort as the election nears. So does the New York Times, who start concentrating their efforts in democratic areas.

A 9 point lead when every other poll shows a dead heat? Gotta be suspicious. If other polls start showing the same thing, then there's something. Don't look for it; the MSM polling groups are hysterical, they lie about everything else, what's to prevent them from stacking at least one or two polls in order to sway an election?  

 Polls, schmolls...who needs an election when your face is already on a coin? http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/24/render-unto-obama/  But don't DARE call him an egomaniac. That's racist.

/sarc

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a whole lot compared to individual state polls - it's all about electoral votes, after all.  The most recent poll I find interesting shows Florida as a tie.

Meanwhile, this blog asks "...does this show that the financial crisis helps Obama, and reduces the likelihood that Democrats will support any solution BEFORE the elections?"  Sen. Obama has not used this financial debacle for political gain.  He held off on presenting a plan until the President had presented his. 

Many, many Republican senators (including Sen. McCain) have hesitated to write the Treasury Department a check for $700,000,000,000 with no oversight.  And well they should.

Remember the initial "proposal" included the provision that no decision by Secretary Paulson could be reviewed by any other administrative agency or court of law.  Now, that's just plan silly (along with being illegal, of course).  What idiot would even present such a proposal?

The dismal state of the American economy is a primary reason for voters to give the Democratic party a chance in the White House.  Study the numerous vote prediction models based on economics.  Sen. Obama should be solidly in the lead simply based on economic factors alone.

The meltdown on Wall Street has given Obama a temporary bump but there's not an icecube's chance in Hell that he leads McCain by 9 points. With his far-left background, Obama is a credible economic populist, but McCain is not. This is not 1932. This is 2008 when Americans are heavily invested in the stock market. It is difficult to imagine market hatred carrying anyone into the White House.

—Matthew Vadum is Editor of Organization Trends and Foundation Watch, two monthly newsletters published by Capital Research Center

Of course the ABC/Post (as in "dumb as a") is showing an inflated number. With all the prep work being layed for B Hussein's probable poor showing at the upcoming debate this is just another ploy.

If the debate goes as predicted McCain will do rather well this Friday and get a bounce. Abracadabra ... swoosh .... all tied up again and All But Crap can announce how B Hussein held his own.

"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain

If "O" Dumby gets elected all the troubles he causes will be pushed to bush by the MSM. 

What caused these economic "problems" in the first place? The re-distribution of wealth "solution" allowed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to lower the interest rates and loosen credit for "minorities". Problem was that the "middle class" jumped in and took advantage of the scam. Thus, the housing bubble. In the meantime, the few crooks at Fannie and Freddie and on Wall Street made millions. The Demos like Dodd and Frank blocked reform. Obama, Dodd and Kerry also got millions in political "contributions" from Fan and Fred. The few get rich while the many suffer. As a result of all of this, the law-abiding "middle class" will get it in the neck again. Ironically, it is they who will be held accountable. In the meantime, the crooks and the irresponsible get rewarded. This is communism in action. This is the way of Obama, et.al. My poem:

                       Remember in November 

             Fannnie and Freddie came in to say,

              "How about a give away"

              Barry, Chris, and Barney will stray,

              And kill any reform today

              The New York Times will lie for them

              To fool the masses once again

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

It took me a while to locate a URL which included the jpgs. There's a silver medal coin depicting presidential candidate Obama.

Right click on the image, click the view, and it will enlarge beyond one's satisfaction.

If you prefer convenience, simply click on DAILY WAVE below. 

JDW

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...please remember how you voted, Sens. Obama & Biden:

Biden, Obama helped keep 'Bridge to Nowhere' alive

DEWEY BEACH, Delaware (CNN) -- Although Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden routinely mocks his Republican counterpart, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, for her onetime support of the infamous "Bridge to Nowhere," Biden and his running mate voted to keep the project alive twice.

Democratic vice presidential candidate Sen. Joe Biden campaigns in Washington on Tuesday.

Both Biden and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama voted to kill a Senate amendment that would have diverted federal funding for the bridge to repair a Louisiana span badly damaged by Hurricane Katrina, Senate records show.

And both voted for the final transportation bill that included the $223 million earmark for the Alaska project.

An amendment offered by Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Oklahoma, would have stripped the money appropriated to connect the Alaskan coastal city of Ketchikan to its airport on sparsely populated Gravina Island and diverted the money to Louisiana.

But Biden andObama and 80 of their colleagues rejected the measure, an amendment to a massive 2005 transportation bill that funded thousands of projects across the country.  Watch how Biden has blasted Palin »

"That is probably the most disturbing element of this and the campaigning on the Bridge to Nowhere," said Bill Allison of the Sunlight Foundation, a taxpayer watchdog group. "Because, yes, they had a chance to vote specifically against the Bridge to Nowhere in Alaska to redirect the money to people, to bridges and infrastructure damaged by Hurricane Katrina going in to New Orleans, and they chose not to."

So Obiden had more direct involvement with the Bridge to Nowhere project than Palin? Ouch! 

*****

"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will 

Wonder how the "Hopeful Changer" would deal with this?

"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall

I haven't seen anything on the fact that there are still 13 appropriation bills that have yet to pass the House. According to Mike Reagan Nazi Pelosi is more than happy to let the offshore drilling ban die. Her plans are to put language into a continuing resolution bill to keep the goverment operating until Congress returns after the election which will put the ban back in place. Then they will pass another continuing resolution until some time in January hoping that the Messiah will get elected and they can then have their way with our money.

The new budget is not going to ready by next Tuesday midnight so look for that bill soon-like maybe tomorrow. Bush will be forced to sign it or face the wrath of the morons that don't know it is all the Dems fault.  I can hear them now about how Bush shut down the government. You know it won't bother me any.

All this is being done while the sheeple's attention is on this banking mess.

If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!

It seems appropriate to defer a response to this question by continuing to whittle away at the credibility of another poll. That is relevant because one wants to make a general point that polls commissioned and analyzed by "mainstream" media news organizations and staff should be treated with enormous skepticism and doubt. Especially in a campaign season, they tend to be efforts to improve the electoral chances of whichever politicians, candidates, and political and social views the MSM favor.

A few days ago, much fuss was made on TV, perhaps on blogs, and less in newspapers whose newsholes have shrunk in recent years, over an AP-Yahoo News poll, conducted with the aid of Stanford University people and a West Coast polling organization, Knowledge Networks. AP writers found a third of white Democrats had negative attitudes toward blacks. Statistical models led to a conclusion that "Obama's support would be as much as 6 percentage points higher if there were no white racial prejudice.".

However, the AP writers and some wise man at Stanford who also analyzed survey results did not refer to a poll question and responses--thanks more making them available, AP--that showed that, of all poll respondents, 9% were "less likely" to vote for Obama because he would be the "first black president"--actually, he is not black, but rather mixed-race, or multiracial. But another 9% were "more likely" to vote for him for that reason. And 82% of respondents did not care. The case was made that the methodology minimized what some have called the "Bradley effect." Further, if the number on white Democrats is to be trusted, so should that result.

The survey also provided a breakdown of whites only to the question about how Obama's being the first "black" president would affect their vote. The numbers changed little, with 10% less likely, 6% more likely, and 84% not affected. One can assume that, as many white Republicans would vote for no Democratic candidate, most black Democrats would vote for anyone who was the Democrats' candidate, though no doubt they will vote for Obama with more enthusiasm than for a Gore or a Kerry. 

The survey response for white Democrats was not in the documentposted on the Internet. It is astonishing that that further breakdown was not supplied, since the AP story referenced it in the report's first sentence. AP writers had lots of details not in the published survey and responses, as, for example, what percentage of white Republicans had similar "deep-seated racial misgivings."

The poll asked respondents the extent to which certain positive and negative characteristics applied to blacks, e.g., friendly, hard-working, and good neighbors at one end and violent, lazy, and irresponsible at the other. Bernard Goldberg on Fox News last night pointed out that one set of responses, whether blacks were violent, should be evaluated in terms of what anyone with any sense knows: for whatever reasons, blacks are disproportionately involved in violent behavior.

But there was a more important reason to doubt the AP report. The survey did not provide a breakdown of how white Democrats responded re: those characteristics. Again, the writers doubtless had access to that information, but neither the published survey nor their article provided any details. So one has no way to evaluate what Ron Fournier and Trevor Tompson, the writers, had in mind when they referred to "deep-seated racial misgivings." 

A far, far more important consideration was absent from the article and from initial reactions to the story. Without elaborating on the multiplicity of relations Americans have with members of other ethnic and racial groups, surely Americans are capable of distinguishing individuals from the qualities or defects they might think attach to one group or another. 

One can appreciate that the published survey would not have too many questions on Obama. Respondents were asked how being the first black president would affect their vote, a response surely worth of mention in the story, but ignored. They were also asked to respond to a question concerning favorable-unfavorable judgments of six people, Obama among them. His numbers seemed unexceptionable. Cindy McCain got the highest number of "don't know enough to say" responses, 43%, among the names on the list, which also included Ms. Obama, John McCain, Hillary Clinton, and George W. Bush. The Cindy McCain response told this reader that the responders were honest: Most people know little of her. One guess as to who got the highest unfavorable rating.

One can imagine the discussion, through e-mails and perhaps in person, that led to the survey. I'll put the crystal ball away, except that it does seem reasonable to conclude that the poll's chief purpose was to determine how Obama's race would affect voters. That was the purpose of the ignored, but key question on voting for the first claimed black president. (Sorry, I have relatives and friends of mixed ethnicities and mixed races. I and they value their heritages equally. If Obama and others want to call him black, fine, but he's mixed-race. His white mother was not a nothing.) 

So why, after asking the general question on a series of positive-negative characteristics, were people who were surveyed not asked how they applied to Obama, and to what degree, i.e, from "extremely well" to "not at all"? How many respondents would find Obama violent? How many irresponsible? The poll and an AP article blaring it had fundamental flaws that do not surprise. The people behind it so favor the candidacy of Barack Obama that they did not see what now appear to be obvious deficiencies in both the questions and the AP report. Stupidity is another explanation for the deficiencies, but Fournier is not stupid, as anyone who has observed his career knows. Ignorant? I doubt that: Tompson was and likely is the AP's director of surveys. Blindly partisan? That has to be the reason.

The WaPo-ABC News poll may not have the same deficiencies. Another post here will concern that poll, more briefly, because nothing is known of what questions people were asked and little is known of their responses. 

to go to Washington and vote on financial crisis.  I'm glad because I was going to have to record it.  Having a debate on a Fri night is stupid.

Obama is now saying he went first with this proposal to McCain this morning via email on Garrett's blackberry according to Obama spokesman Bill Burton...

I will wait to say anymore because I am sure there will be a thread here soon to post about all of this...

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Wow! so much written on this. My opus ripping apart the AP poll will get lost. Again. With so much for people to read, I'll be brief about the Washington Post-ABC News poll and the article by Dan Balz and John Cohen. They wrote:

"McCain's advantages on national security issues have also been blunted. Two weeks ago, when those surveyed were asked who they trusted to deal with a major unexpected crisis, McCain led 54 percent to 37 percent. That lead is gone.

"Similarly, McCain's once-sizable advantage in dealing with the battle against terrorism has all but disappeared. There were also big shifts toward Obama on handling Iraq and international affairs more broadly."

Why? 

What a bunch of sick puppies. PETA has asked Ben and Jerry to make ice cream out of human milk. Is there no end to the madness of these moonbats?  I don't think the FDA would approve it. Futhermore how many moms will it take to make a gallon?

I grew up around my uncle's dairy farm. I did the afternoon milking many a day by hand when we lost power. Do you suppose that qualifies me to do the milking?

If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!

McCain suspends campaign to return to Wash.

Asks Obama to do the same.

This puts serious pressure on Obama.  Expecting statement from Obama any second.

"Don't taze me bro" - Joe Biden

How does it look that McCain is willing to suspend his campaign to focus on the financial crisis while Obama wants to continue with the photo-ops?

Serious Obama blunder from where I sit.

"Don't taze me bro" - Joe Biden

McCain wants to suspend this week's debate?

Obama camp says we can do both.

This is getting to be serious drama. 

"Don't taze me bro" - Joe Biden

What happens if the debate people insist the debate will go on, which they are saying right now, but McCain doesn't show up?

By the way, the Obama camp is insisting they can do both. If McCain backtracks on his decision and agrees with Obama and puts the debate back on, he will look like a fool.  

Obama received a call from Bush. Now he will be at the table to help blow out the candles.

JDW

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'Hey Chuck, Stand Up!'