For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: McCain attends biker rally!
Thousands of motorcyclists greeted Republican presidential candidate John McCain with an approving roar Monday as he sought blue-collar and heartland support by visiting a giant motorcycle rally.
And then responds to Paris's ad:
McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds emails: “It sounds like Paris Hilton supports John McCain’s ‘all of the above’ approach to America’s energy crisis - including both alternatives and drilling. Paris Hilton might not be as big a celebrity as Barack Obama, but she obviously has a better energy plan.”
Is McCain showing that despite his age, he's a man of the people and NOT an arrogant, elite snob? Might these moves matter in November?
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I like Pari's ...
August 6, 2008 - 10:11 ET by robertjacobI enjoyed Paris Hilton showing a sense of humor.
Good for her - too bad Obama does not have one.
Not only does Obama not
August 6, 2008 - 12:14 ET by motherbeltNot only does Obama not have a sense of humor, no one is allowed to have one as far as he is concerned.
Latest indication: The David Letterman website has removed a"Top Ten" list that involved Obama.
There is a blank on July 29, the date of the list.
For those who missed it elsewhere, here is the list of Top Ten Signs That Obama is Overconfident About the Presidential Campaign:
10. Proposed bill to change Oklahoma to "Oklobama"
9. Offered Bush $20 for the "Mission Accomplished" banner
8. Asked guy at Staples, "Which chair will work best in an oval-shaped office?"
7. The affair with Barbara Walters
6. Having head measured for Mount Rushmore
5. Guy sits around eating soup all day
4. He's voting for Nader
3. Offered McCain a job in gift shop at Obama presidential library
2. Announced his running mate will be Andy Dick
1. Been cruising for chicks with John Edwards
One has to wonder if they removed it because it makes fun of the Obamessiah, or because of the dig at John Edwards.
Update: I just received the following email from Brent Baker:
That's a silly story based on a false premise. The list was posted in
error after it was edited from the show. It DID NOT air on the Late
Show.
So I stand corrected.
But I have a question: Why was it edited from the show?
I know that the ommission of
August 6, 2008 - 15:38 ET by Chris NormanI know that the ommission of the "Top Ten List" has been explained in another post, but I still notice that these "Top Ten" items are not really skewering Obama. They are more like fond ribbing than anything else. I'd say they're more along the lines of the jokes about Clinton and Big Macs and fries from McDonalds when he was running.
McNotObama '08
No kidding...in fact if I
August 6, 2008 - 10:30 ET by taterNo kidding...in fact if I had the choice between Paris Hilton and Obama for President, I'd go with Paris.
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"There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we can not resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary." -Sister Lucia
25 Reasons You May be a Racist
August 6, 2008 - 10:12 ET by Prester JohnFrom National Review On Line:
1. If you think Obama's the most liberal member of the senate you...may be a racist.
2. If you object to Obama raising your payroll, capital gains and estate taxes you...may be a racist.
3. If you'd prefer a president have at least some foreign policy experience you...may be a racist.
4. If you're in favor of drilling for oil and building nuclear power plants you...may be a racist.
5. If you think "Vero Possemus" is Latin for "Massive Ego" you... may be a racist.
Etc.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/
Okay, you got me...I must be a racist
August 6, 2008 - 10:17 ET by SouthJersey1953Your post could be very funny if it wasn't so true
I support Paris Hilton's energy plan (Alt Sources & Drill)
August 6, 2008 - 10:15 ET by SouthJersey1953When I heard her new commercial, the first thing I thought was that it sounded like McCain's plan.
Great commercial, done with a good sense of humor. Obviously she is not as arrogant as the other celebrity (Obamassiah)
This will definitely matter...
August 6, 2008 - 10:16 ET by ontherightMcCain has shown that he is more in touch with the American's who actually care about the country and will most likely vote come Nov.
These same Americans, who probably don't agree much with his immigration policies will nevertheless tolerate his other "middle of the road" stances and push very hard to get the immigration issue(s) addressed, in order to avoid a B.Hussein O. meltdown that would have the potential to destroy our great country.
Besides, he offered up his wife for a "wet t-shirt" contest. If that doesn't win millions of "fly over America" votes, nothing will. :-)
Something tells me he
August 6, 2008 - 10:31 ET by motherbeltSomething tells me he didn't know that contest sometimes features topless and bottomless "contestants."
Could come back to bite him, big time.
Only if...
August 6, 2008 - 11:04 ET by ontheright...the MSM dogs the story...ummm, well, of course they will.
I think the Sturgis rally
August 6, 2008 - 10:26 ET by Dan The Man 2I think the Sturgis rally was a brilliant move. What could be more common than motorcycling. But, it would be interesting to know if any of the revelers were pissed at the Secret Services intrusions and breaking up teh party for McCains security precautions. Sturgis is much better than Germany any day. A great sound bite but how much press will it get on the nets?
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Amongst the "commoners"
August 6, 2008 - 15:42 ET by Chris NormanAmongst the "commoners", bitterly clinging to their motorcycles? :)
McNotObama '08
Good come back with Paris.
August 6, 2008 - 10:33 ET by bassndudeGood come back with Paris. As for McCain being an elitest snob, I dont think he could be. What ever else he is, regardless of ones opinion of him, his past experiences in Hanoi have, and will keep him rooted in reality. Those experiences cannot be forgotten or cast aside. I am sure they are rooted so deep in him, he never forgets, that the worst can come true.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Paris Hilton
August 6, 2008 - 10:37 ET by iveseenitallA law-breaking, drugged-up tramp who yells "mommy" when she's caught. And what she says matters??? What a "presidential" race this is. Sad.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Re: Open Thread
August 6, 2008 - 10:40 ET by TuariParis is smarter than she makes herself out to be. She knows she can't just come out and support McCain without damaging her "hollywood creds", so she releases an ad that seemingly bashes both, but she really went very light on McCain. When hollywood is anti-Obama -- even covertly, then you know that he's in real trouble.We can only hope more of them come out of the GOP closet and/or wake up.
There is NO way this was accidental
August 6, 2008 - 10:43 ET by PunditDotComJust love the AP headline on PH's response:
"Paris Hilton issues tart rebuttal to McCain ad"
or am I just too quick to see a pun where none exists... :-)
That headline is GREAT
August 6, 2008 - 10:47 ET by BlondeThanks for sharing.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Paris Hilton's Energy Plan
August 6, 2008 - 10:52 ET by AvitarJohn McCain's good fortune is that Paris Hilton will not be thirty-five before next January and can not run for President. She clearly has more gravitas than the Democrats' nominee does and she was born in the United States!
Would she like to run for congress from Connecticut?
She would be an improvement over any of our current crop.
Barry's plane
August 6, 2008 - 11:36 ET by iveseenitallThere's a Snoops verified report that Barry switched the logo on his 757, at an expence of $500,00 to the taxpayer. He REMOVED THE AMERICAN FLAG! ("God DAMN America!")
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Perhaps a link to same would help?
August 6, 2008 - 11:38 ET by sarcasmoI find it hard to believe this would involve any taxpayer money instead of campaign funds, regardless of the flag stuff...
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
miss leading statement by "i've seen it all"
August 6, 2008 - 12:20 ET by SouthJersey1953Here's the link. Turns out it was $500,000 total cost for complete overhaul of plane. No where on Snopes.com does it mention tax payer money.
Some really objective folks over at snopes.com
August 6, 2008 - 16:55 ET by ontherightBoy 'O boy, did snopes.com jump through some burning hoops and do some double back flips. They did everything they could to try and make it seem that the American flag, removed from the Obamessiah's plane, was "trademarked" by North American Airlines. However, after further scrutiny and according to their own links, this proved to be just another liberally biased smoke screen.
Me being the skeptic that I am, I followed the link provided by snopes to the North American "trademark" site: http://msgboard.snop...
What do you know...not the same trademarked logo/flag afterall, not even close.
Just for some fun; I followed the links to Dole's and Bush's campaign planes; low and behold - Both had the American flag prominently painted and/or affixed to the tail.
Furthermore, the flag on President Bush's plane was identical to the so-called "trademarked flag" that was removed from the B. Hussein O. plane.
I provided both links below for the sake of comparison.
North American link - 4th picture at this link - http://www.snopes.co...
Bush link - http://www.airliners...
So I'm thinking to myself, "self, how was there no problem with candidate Bush using the so-called "trademarked" flag, but B. Hussein O. was apparently restricted from using the same?" In reply, I said, "self, this is a bunch BS".
AND - as far as "tax-payer" money...the comment is technically correct. Campaign contributions would in fact be "tax-payer" money... Either way, the liberally biased "bones" are buried at SNOPES.COM; a site, until just recently, I thought was providing a somewhat valuable "public service".
see my reply to sarc, above
August 6, 2008 - 12:21 ET by SouthJersey1953Deleted - better answer to sarc's post, above
Heh. I hate painting a lot
August 6, 2008 - 12:24 ET by sarcasmoMy target tends to get less paint on it than me, but I'm with you at that kind of price!
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
I'm not sure...
August 6, 2008 - 12:26 ET by ontheright...I would lend a lot, no scratch that, any credence to what the "mom and pop shop" called snopes.com would have to say.
I personally went to snopes (as I have done many times before in efforts to debunk email stories sent by well meaning friends and family) and searched on Obama. Every single derogatory entry that was returned was labeled as FALSE. Even where his book was directly quoted, snopes denied the existence of the printed word and called the "accusation" FALSE. Something fishy in Denmark I thought.
So, seeing what I thought was clearly unabashed bias I decided to do some background research on snopes.
Found this to be rather interesting, among others. - see link.
http://findarticles....
And now, the Edwards love child photos
August 6, 2008 - 12:20 ET by sarcasmoFrom those journalists (like it or not, depending on timing & political party rather than any coherent standard, apparently) at the National Enquirer.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Are none of you going to notice this??
August 6, 2008 - 12:56 ET by sarcasmoIt happened. And even though the photo's blurred, it looks like love child has Dad's hair...
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
wow sarc
August 6, 2008 - 13:00 ET by candanceSorry, I just got on NB a little bit ago and am trying to catch up. Interesting photos.
Thanks for keeping us updated!
A correction for the record...
August 6, 2008 - 13:02 ET by Clear thinkerA week ago, I was banned from the Real Climate, but almost immediately found the DotEarth site run by Andrew C. Revkin as a replacement. It was convenient for me to debate at DotEarth because I was posting to some of the very same people that write on RC. Before I ever wrote my first comment on DotEarth, I spent over 3 hours reading as many posts as possible. One of the things that impressed me was Mr. Revkin seemed to allow both sides of the argument to post. Also, not one post mentioned anything about being banned or had their posts denied. Gullible old me then decided "great, here's a place that I can post the opposing side without fear of censorship". Wrong!!!
As of this morning, Mr. Revkin has evidently decided to censor all of my postings. As of last night I had 5 postings on different thread subjects waiting in queue to be posted, and this morning I find them lost in the cyber winds.
I was always polite and civil. I never resorted to name calling, and I stayed on subject. Chalk up another site whereby the ALARMISTS want to control the discussion, and add Mr. Revkin to the list of those that refuse to be fair and only want to promote the idea that the sky is falling.
What a fool I was for trusting anything sponsored by the NYT's!
45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm
lol Clear
August 6, 2008 - 13:09 ET by candanceAlso, not one post mentioned anything about being banned or had their posts denied.
Isn't this kind of begging the question? Obviously if they were being banned they wouldn't be talking about it in public posts!
A lot of sites encourage/pay undercover members to go on about how tolerant the admins are. It's an old trick.
candance...
August 6, 2008 - 13:27 ET by Clear thinkerKeep in mind that I did call myself a "fool" and "gullible".
45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm
Fair and balanced eh
August 6, 2008 - 13:20 ET by bigtimerFair and balanced eh Ct?
Leftists loons...their way or the highway.
Free speech as long as it's their speech.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
The only way they can win the argument
August 6, 2008 - 13:23 ET by dboSorry to hear that CT. I know more and more in the last few months Dot Earth's groupies have been putting pressure on Revkin to edit comments. I guess he succumed to his echo chamber buddies. Can't help but think you struck a nerve. Btw, if you need a cure for insomnia, check out this video of Andy "I control the debate" Revkin interviewing James "I control the data" Hansen.
dbo...
August 6, 2008 - 13:29 ET by Clear thinkerI can't even find an email for Mr. Revkin to ask him "why"!
45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm
The sentence is in on Bin
August 6, 2008 - 14:07 ET by Jack BauerThe sentence is in on Bin Laden's driver...
Jack... I heard about
August 6, 2008 - 15:48 ET by bigtimerJack...
I heard about that...
May he get life.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Driving an NYC cab is too
August 6, 2008 - 15:58 ET by balboaDriving an NYC cab is too lenient. Maybe they could have him do one of those Dirty Jobs they show on Discovery Channel? Let's get creative.
Like, maybe...
August 6, 2008 - 17:00 ET by ontheright...inseminating 50 goats per day by using his mouth to hold the injection device?
Oh, wait, that would be way too lenient as it would make him feel right at home.
Now awaiting the outcry
August 6, 2008 - 18:24 ET by BDNow awaiting the outcry from the ACLU types following sentencing.
"oooooh, punishment is tooo harsh.... Any punishment...."
Same here BD...that's why I
August 6, 2008 - 18:31 ET by bigtimerSame here BD...that's why I didn't listen to any of the talking heads after the verdict came down....i.e. Jeffrey Toobin ect...
I couldn't take it today.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Quick question:
August 6, 2008 - 18:18 ET by Chris NormanIf Obama gets himself elected, instead of pens, will he hand out commemorative presidential tire gauges?
McNotObama '08
Obama a liar!
August 6, 2008 - 15:47 ET by bigtimerI cannot believe what I just heard on msnbc no less...
Martin Savage had two political talking heads on when I walked in the room...
He asked Kris or Chris Kofinus (sp) if Obama wasn't a bit of a liar...this was regarding his speeches about McCain's campaign donations from Big Bad Oil companies....when in reality Obama has received at least over 400,000 that we know of.
I thought it priceless....
He blew me away using the word LIAR!
Btw...you can be sure the leftist blog sites are going to be going NUTS! They will be calling for his head no less.
I wonder just how long he will be allowed to be on this time spot.
I have always kind of liked Savage and have always thought he has been short changed over the years.
Three Cheers for Savage!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Doubleheader!
August 6, 2008 - 16:38 ET by Roger the ShrubberThis story combines the 24/7 fun of the Religion of Peace with the never-gets-old reputation of West Virginia weddings!
Yngwie and Graham
August 6, 2008 - 16:47 ET by Roger the ShrubberHiroshima Mon Amour
The fireball that shamed the sun,
Burning the shadows on the ground,
As the rain falls to dry the land,
Leaving the desert for the thirsty man.
I'm not sure I understand...
August 6, 2008 - 17:17 ET by ontherightI watched the entire video and enjoyed the music. The lyrics however were typical apologetic wailings meant to satisfy an inner guilt or further a passive cause.
Help me out here.
I found it very interesting (not surprising though) that there was no mention, picture and/or video of Pearl Harbor...pretty telling, if you ask me.
But who am I...
It's a bittersweet day, a
August 6, 2008 - 19:39 ET by Roger the ShrubberIt's a bittersweet day, a sad day in that we were forced to unleash such power to subdue the Japanese, a good day that, by doing this, we spared thousands of our soldiers' lives.
The band was formed (and this song was written) by an Englishman (Graham Bonnet), and featured a Swedish guitarist(Yngwie Malmsteen). Perhaps that is why the song did not include a more concise American history of their involvement in World War 2, all crammed into a 4-minute song.
Hey, I just realized that I
August 6, 2008 - 18:54 ET by Chris NormanHey, I just realized that I haven't seen any posts from Tim Graham on here in a while. Is he on vacation or working on special projects?
McNotObama '08
That's gotta HURT, I don't care who you are...
August 6, 2008 - 20:22 ET by JayTeethe Quote by McCain's spokesman "Paris Hilton might not be as big a celebrity as Barack Obama, but she obviously has a better energy plan.” LOL, That's funny, and it has to slap Barrack right across his face....
He's not gonna recover from McCain's ad......and this Guy "McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds" Is a candidate for Press Secretary ... if McCain, when McCain, Wins POTUS.
Obama's in-experience as a Messiah is showing, his Halo is drooping, and he can't keep his Grip on the MSM. I think he is even Scaring the MSM talking heads....they're starting to look like Deer in the Headlights of an 18 wheeler.
The Republican Revolution will not be Televised
Opec prices plunge. I'm
August 6, 2008 - 21:01 ET by RESTLESS 1Opec prices plunge. I'm keeping my eye on what OPEC does as the election nears. Perhaps they know if repubs. gain in congress and claim the WH, we WILL drill, and so they are heading off the need?
The article claims that projected demand is why the drop, but I'm not so sure yet.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
R1... Wow, although I
August 6, 2008 - 21:12 ET by bigtimerR1...
Wow, although I watch the oil prices almost everyday....I had never thought that far ahead...and I should have.
Excellent idea/projection, and something to definitely keep our eyes on.
I have a couple thoughts now on how that may hurt or help the other way depending on the polls and situation coming on down the road for both sides of aisle.
Going to be interesting.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Pelosi's book bombs
August 7, 2008 - 08:58 ET by Cool ArrowMiserably according to Drudge.
Less than 3000 sold in a week. Yes, 3,000
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Aw, c'mon, Cool One, give her a break!
August 7, 2008 - 09:11 ET by goldenthroatCool Arrow,
We need to give her highness Queen Nancy a break! After all, she has worked hard and long to get the congress she leads up to that incredible 9% approval rating!
She worked so hard, she turned out the lights on the Republicans while they are being punished for working for our country.
Poor dear - she must be exhausted!
"We're all bozos on this bus!" - Firesign Theatre
Goldenthroat
August 7, 2008 - 09:23 ET by Cool ArrowWhen you put on the nose, it grows - Firesign Theatre
And don't forget, she's trying to save the planet.
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