you talk about Bush dodging questions - is this a dodge by you to my questions? 

I oppose it wherever as well - and I also believe in prioritizing - so I see people like Hussein and terrorists as perpretating significantly worse atrocitites - so they should be dealt with more strongly than the CIA right now IMHO - would you agree? And if so do you think that's the message to the world coming from the American left? Or is their message that America is a greater evil than AQ and sadistic dictators like Hussein?

Are you still here???

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Blogonator 

Wait, who's playing the KSM type? I liked that Kumar guy in the White Castle movie. He's a good actor. Jack Bauer got him good though.

THis will undoubtedly suprise you, but I have never seen an episode of 24, or many of the other Hollywood produced dramas trying to represent the world in which I work.

I cannot bear to watch amateurs attempting to depict what my friends and I do.

Please step back into reality. Our intelligence is never perfect,

Thank you for that flash of the obvious, a fact that I know far more about than you do.  But my years of experience allows me an advantage, I know when the Intell is flakey, and when it is pretty solid.

and it won't be until we perfect mind reading.

ANd it would not be then either, as ALL intellgence is bounced off all other sources to gain corroboration.  I would rather have a ream of All-source, than a mindreader with an interview.

Torture is not a way to improve our condition because torture does not produce reliable intelligence.

As stated before this is a childish notion. 

If I have an admission made under supposed torture, that is corroborated by a SIGINT message saying something similar, which is also corroborated by IMINTm MASINT, FISINT, and several HUMINT interviews with people who know the source and have experience with his world - THAN DAMMIT IT PRETTY MUCH WORKED, RIGHT?

Walk into my world....

Not when you have the wrong guy.

Please prove to me that we have TORTURED a wrong guy.  For this issue, I will stipulate Waterboarding.

ONce again I state that all source Intelligence weeds out the WRONG guys.

Not when the guy you do have has a high threshold of pain and a willingness to die for a cause.

According to all reports KSM began giving up Intelligence on units, plans, personnel, and other key information in 45 SECONDS.  According to the information provided, the information provided by KSM was corroborated and led to HUGE gains against the AQ leadership.

SHACKITY!!!!!

Torture does debase our republic.

Probably because you have unusual, Hollywood based standards for our republic. 

It will undoubtedly shock you that we also:

a.  Ambush our enemies ( I have had libs tell me that that "Is not fair" and we should not do it.)

b.  We use snipers against our enemies in an attempt to hit them with limited danger to ourselves (Libs hate that as well.)

c.)  And we shoot our enemies in the back as often as possible, nor wait for them to take the first shot at us (ooooh, libs HATE that the most)

Torture does undermine our troops currently in harms way who may find themselves prisioners of the enemy.

Hahahahahahahahahaha!.  Gasp.... hahahahahaha!

You gotta be SH***ing me?

WWII - Bataan Death March, US troops send to Dachau and to the V2 plants to be worked to death.  WHolesale slaughter of US troops caught by the Japanese and retail slaughter by German troops.

And the Gestapo showed to let up on our guys if they thought they knew something.

Korea - Massacres f US troops when captured by the nKoreans as well as the Japanese who filled the side of the road with US troops bodies.

US troops sent north to China, many of whome never reappear and most starved and tortured.

Vietnam - Please read McCains history of the event, then read Bud Days, James Stockwell, and read the reviews of US troops summarily executed.

Desert Storm - Please review the photos of US and British airmen who were tortured by the Iraqi's while held in captivity.  Also review the book Bravo 20.

Today.  Virtually all US troops captured by the AQ are tortured, then executed while being filmed.  Nearly all beheaded or burned alive.

If I am somehow captured by our enemies, I will not be waterboarded, nor recieve lemon shicken with Rice Pilaf in a gentle prison by the bay with a moderate climate.

  I will be sliced into ribbons, then have my head cut off, probably using a dull Parang which will take several attempts to successfully accomplish.  Various body parts removed before I am probably covered in naptha and burned to a a nice crisp.  If we had taken all our detainees and sent them to Zurich to get fat on chcolate - the results would be the same.

None of the US's activites in any of these conflicts including todays rises to 1% of what our enemies have inflicted upon our guys.  We have waterboarded three guys,  for agrand total of 2 minutes and ten seconds for all three, they have massacred us.

AND THE WORLD KNOWS THIS, THEY JUST PREFER TO IGNORE IT.

By the way, nice attempt to sidestep the question.  What would you, BLOGONATOR, do to the get the info?  I make you the SECDEF and you have the weight of the office on your shoulders.  WHAT DO YOU DO?