For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: Bobby Jindal as McCain's VP?
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) said Sunday that Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal “would be far and away the best candidate” to appear on the Republican presidential ticket with Sen. John McCain (Ariz.). Gingrich, who appeared on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” heaped praise upon the former congressman, saying that he is a “spectacular” governor and predicted that Jindal would be a presidential candidate in the future.
Gingrich also talked about how rising gas prices might help downticket Republicans in November:
Commenting on the race for control of Congress, the former House leader said that the record price of gasoline could help Republicans in a year that observers now say favors Democrats. “At $4 and $5 a gallon -- if you have a more production, lower cost Republican Party running against a cripple the economy, hit your pocketbook Democratic Party, this election will change radically in September and October,” Gingrich said.
Any thoughts on Newt's opinions on these issues?
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Jindal VP? Only if you want him ruined
June 16, 2008 - 09:15 ET by Warner Todd HustonThe only thing that making Jindal the VP will do is destroy his political career.
If we want Bobby Jindal groomed for future leadership, taking him out of LA before he gets the experience he needs and before he faces any crisis or puts in his program is the sure way to ruin him.
Leave Bobby alone until he proves himself in LA. Right now all we have is a guy that can win an election, not a guy that deserves the accolades as a reformer.
Besides, just about anyone saddled with McCain will find that it was a bad idea.I'd almost think that anyone who runs for VP with McCain might find their career over once the election is finished.
So, LEAVE BOBBY ALONE!
Yup, the VP spot would be a step down
June 16, 2008 - 09:36 ET by SPCOlympicsIf B. Jindal is to become the conservative standard bearer, he needs to mature as a politician in a leadership position. The Governorship is perfect for him as it was for Reagan.
If (big if) he is to become part of the McCain administration, give him the helm of a critical cabinet position like Sec. of State.
Jindal would by his lack of
June 16, 2008 - 10:13 ET by Right2thePointJindal would by his lack of experience give validation to Obamas lack of it which will be an issue down the road.
Wrong choice as it would give him cover to point at Bobby and say 'what about him'.
Agreed, it's wrong for both men for the reasons you all say
June 16, 2008 - 13:44 ET by sarcasmoWhat's interesting is that Newt didn't consider any of this stuff, especially how much the idea might potentially hurt Bobby's future in the party. It seems strategically blind if McCain chooses him anyway, as you show. And I say that with the utmost respect for Jindal's eventual possible political job choices once he proves himself as governor.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Like Orson Wells used to say
June 16, 2008 - 10:52 ET by Caringwhiteguy"Gallo sells no wine before its time". It's not time for Bobby Jindal. It's absolutely essential he waits out McCain. He's got too bright a future to be tarred with McCain's baggage. The rebirth of the Republican party will occur after this fall's results are in and examined. Then it will be time for young conservative leaders like Bobby Jindal to tell the RINO/DC connection where to get off.
I thought the word was that
June 16, 2008 - 11:05 ET by motherbeltI thought the word was that Jindal did not want to be a VP candidate; that he really wanted to be the best Governor he could be.
When the hell are we going to get over this fascination with pushing someone for the next rung of the ladder as soon as he achieves one, as if the game is simply to keep climbing?
Jindal had better know, that if he gives up his Governorship and McCain loses, that will be his ticket to oblivion. Better for him to stay Governor, "make his bones" so to speak, and wait until the time is right for him.
I agree, being an LA
June 16, 2008 - 20:25 ET by general companyI agree, being an LA resident I want him hear for 8yrs. We got a lot to do. I think he wants to get these things done as well.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
I agree with him on the gas
June 16, 2008 - 09:18 ET by MassConservativeI agree with him on the gas comment but I am not sure I agree on The Jindahl comment. Admittedly I do not know a lot of Jindahl's background and he may be a great choice but I think like Obama he is very new on the National political stage. McCain and the Republicans damage the "inexperience" argument if they themselves bring on someone relatively wet behind the ears.
Obama '08 - He has the Wright stuff...and that is WRONG for America !!
Disagree with the gas prices
June 16, 2008 - 09:19 ET by shawn228Americans blame Bush and the evil oil companies for record high gas prices. High gas prices will work in the democrats favor come November.
Not true, Shawn
June 16, 2008 - 09:26 ET by OldSailor88Anyone with a lick of sense knows that the President has nothing to do with gas prices. Congress does, however, and the DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED congress is doing nothing. Yeah, the REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED congress drug it's feet too, but the current Congress should and will shoulder the blame when the price hits $5. Especially when every Nancy, Dick, and Harry promised lower prices when they ran in 2006.
Noli habere bovis, vir!
Oldsailor
June 16, 2008 - 09:27 ET by shawn228Your right about anyone with the lick of sense part. I agree with the GOP, we should drill in Anwar and build more refinineries and stop methanol mandating.
The thing is so many liberals and even moderates believe about the war for oil, Bush lied people died concept. The Dems will also hammer home the fact that high gas prices are the result of the war in Iraq.
Shawn228, I believe
June 16, 2008 - 09:43 ET by futbolisgreat1Shawn228,
I believe Democrats are going to have a very difficult time trying to harmer the message that high gas prices are because of the Iraq War.
According to them, the Democrats, the only reason that Bush wanted to go to war against Iraq was for the oil, right?
but wow! if that was the case how come gas prices are so high?
What Republicans need to do is put on the lap of Democrats the high gas prices, which is no lie and you will see how Democrats will not only lose, but they will lose big.
The one problem that I see, or two problem is that the media are Democrat friendly and that the Republicans, while they are good at defending this nation, as of late, they just seem impossible at going out and defending the Republican brand. They have allowed the Democrats and the media shape the image of the Republican Party.
futbol
June 16, 2008 - 09:50 ET by shawn228The Dems will use Scott Mcclelland as a example of how Bush led us to war on exaggerated evidence.
It is not the main reason, but oil prices are up partly because of instability in the middle east. Democrats will also point out the fact that prices of oil has gone up because our dollor is at the lowest point i can think of in my adult lifetime
Barack Obama will be our President come November.
Shawn228, I can't say
June 16, 2008 - 10:35 ET by futbolisgreat1Shawn228,
I can't say right now who will be our President in November, it is way too soon to say.
However, Barack Obama's extreme left connections only showed their ugly head for a mere minute. Once again, if Republicans are smart, they will hamer home the crazy, left wing lunatics that Obama is associated with.
As for the high gas prices, I am sorry, if it was because the Middle East, how come we had this high gas prices back in 2003 when the Iraq War started.
As for Mccleland, the poor imbecile has been so discredited, that he won't be taken seriously. Remember that other anti-Bush books were suppose to prevent his re-election and he was re-elected to a second term.
We have high gas prices for a few reasons, some are having a much bigger impact than others.
1) More people around the world own a car than ever before.
2) The inability of the United States to drill in its own soil and offshore for oil-thanks to Democrats and Liberal wackos.
3) Old refineries
As for the dollar not being too strong, it does affect it, but not that much.
As for the instability of the Middle East, once again, it affects it, but not nearly as much as the first three.
What affects it more, is the taxes levied by our local, county, state and federal government on gasoline.
Here in Chicago for every $1 of gasoline that you put in your car, more than 80 cents go to the government!
Both Obama and McCain have a very, very tough road ahead, to claim so early in the race that either one is going to be our President, it is naive.
shawn, you REALLY need to turn off the mass media, who would love for everyone to believe that Obama's Presidency is unavoidable. Remember, these are the same idiots that said the same thing about Hillary way back when she starting running for the Presidential nomination.
Republicans can and I am hoping that they put on the lap of Democrats the high gas prices.
Currency fetishist, etc
June 16, 2008 - 14:48 ET by Unsane"(whine) I wanna higher dollar. (whine) It's my birthright to have a higher dollar. (whine)"
Hey, currency fetishist, nothing I have typed on advantages/disadvantages in regards to currency registers with you at ALL, does it???
I know you are eagerly looking forward to an Obama presidency, aching to be lavished with goodie after goodie after goodie you believe you are OWED.
Finally, one of the biggest reasons for the oil price is supply/demand, and this is aggravated to what has turned into a full blown speculative bubble.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Sure, only if the
June 16, 2008 - 09:45 ET by Jack BauerSure, only if the Republicans don't get out the message.
Which is, of course, based on 100% ignorance on the subject.
For instance, it costs Saudi $2 to extract a barrel of oil for which it sells it at over $120.
Whereas oil companies have a tax margin about half that of brewers.
So logic dicatats that if people where informed of that fact they might think differently.
However, as we know, you can get a poll to say what you like. They never put "Congress" on the list of "people" to blame.
I find that bizzare. And a tad manipulative.
How can you take a poll on a subject in which Congress is holding hearings; Congress sets the tax, Congress decides on domestic drilling; and yet the are not on the poll list.
This is push polling.
What about financial
June 16, 2008 - 10:52 ET by Hero SquadWhat about financial speculators? You know, the main reason oil is at the price it is right now?
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"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
With polls like this and
June 16, 2008 - 19:10 ET by SchnikeysWith polls like this and this in addition to the one Jack posted, it is easy to see the damage being done to the GOP by their own complacency and/or brainlessness.
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Shawn228, "Americans
June 16, 2008 - 09:48 ET by futbolisgreat1Shawn228,
"Americans blame Bush and the evil oil companies..." hmmmm....I believe that the MEDIA and the DEMOCRATS in Congress are doing this, but I give a lot more credit to the American people.
While there are some nut cases that blame Bush and the evil oil companies, I believe most Americans are smart enough to question the FACT that the USA has one of the LARGEST oil reserves in the world and we have not drilled it thanks to Democrats and environmentalist wackos who rather save a whale, an eagle, a fish, than a human being.
High gas prices, if Republicans pay their cards right, will be shoved down the throat of Democrat politicians in Congress.
Especially with the delicious sound bites such as that of Sen. Dick Durbin and the rest of the Democrat idiots.
futbol
June 16, 2008 - 09:54 ET by shawn228I was listening to Sean Hannity a few months ago. He did a random poll of people walking the streets of New York.
More people knew Britney Spears did not wear undergarments, than knew the names Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.
These are the same Americans that will be going to the polls come November. Not everyone is a political junkie like us.
Shawn228, Well, I believe
June 16, 2008 - 10:40 ET by futbolisgreat1Shawn228,
Well, I believe that the people you are talking about are the same individuals that don't even vote. Not all, but most of this individuals won't even know that they have to vote for the President of the USA in November.
I do agree that the media does a good coco wash on people and most people, even political junkies, do not bother to go beyond the headline.
However, I still believe that if Republicans are smart and finally grow a pair, they can demolish the Democrat Congress.
Remember, that many thought that there was no way that President Bush won a second term after all the media made up scandals, after the media and Democrats constant bashing of his first term, after two or three anti-Bush books.
I give Americans a lot more credit than you do.
futbol
June 16, 2008 - 20:15 ET by shawn228The polls had Bush and Gore and Bush and Kerry in statiscal ties. Both races came down to one State.
The GOP have just lost two special elections, they badly wanted to win and the loses were devasting, because they were both in Republican strongholds for over 20 yrs.
Yes, some may say that both these Democrats ran as Republicans, but surely the American people, you have in so much, know that putting more Democrats in the house, gives the party more power?
Or is the fact that the GOP losing both these races a sign of the sweeping defeat that might be the GOP congress in November.
unfortunately...
June 16, 2008 - 20:27 ET by Jethrofishrecords and actions are real...and so are facts....and if you're telling yourself Bush is great and the past 8 years are all liberal media lies and can name anything accomplished as 'great'....well you might deserve more 4 more years of it. make your electic bill payable to "Akmed America Electric".
for folk that remember small, competent government that had priorities..and had science....well...guess you never met them. some have, and some vote.
Americans blame Bush and
June 16, 2008 - 19:14 ET by SchnikeysAmericans blame Bush and the oil companies because that's what the media says when they're free of strong retorts from the GOP.
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Schnikeys... Free of
June 16, 2008 - 19:24 ET by bigtimerSchnikeys...
Free of strong retorts indeed...it has been maddening..I am glad to finally see more of the opposite now from some conservatives...may be a little too late, I don't know, but McCain is right in bed with the greenies on this....I don't care what he does with his slow flip-flops at all.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
convenient greener
June 16, 2008 - 20:56 ET by JethrofishDon't worry Bigtimer,
He's only doing the green thing for votes and will turn if elected. Your grand kids are the ones that have to worry, if he wins....not you. But who cares about them, if you don't?
Scientists suck...we need more politicians. Burn science if it's not short term economically/ geopolitically expedient. It's about me me me. Great conservatives realized that there's a need to back off messingup the nation, dude.
Nixon started the EPA....that's cool and visionary and republican.
Who are these conservatives that oppose that??
Peope that want to screw up everyone's backyard for a buck... are what we call in DE A##*****.
BigTimer.... I can't eat the fish I catch here in Delaware cuz of toxins.....how about you in your town ??
It's all about excepting that we can mess up the earth...from cow belches to pcb's to mercury and carbon from cars. Surely you can agree we can affect the earth's fidelity.
Where's your next planet? Mars looks really bad...
Jethro
I don't know if Jindal is
June 16, 2008 - 09:19 ET by NewsbusterbrownI don't know if Jindal is the best VP candidate, but he's infinitely better than McCain picking Crist, Lieberman, Huckabee, Bloomberg or someone like that. Jindal would help keep conservatives on the reservation. The others won't.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
i'm still gone...
June 16, 2008 - 13:36 ET by TruthMongeryes pick jundal (whoever he his)
sure, whatever - why not - does it really matter...?
pull Reagan out of the grave and stick him on the ticket if you like...
i still won't vote Repub if McCain's still on their:)
Truthmonger, Remember,
June 16, 2008 - 15:25 ET by futbolisgreat1Truthmonger,
Remember, not voting for McCain=a vote for Obama.
I much rather have McCain over Obama, any day, any time. He is not our perfect candidate, but Obama will deal a blow to America, in foreign policy and domestic policy that will take decades to recover from.
obama will bring ultra-left wing lunacy.
No vote for McCain=a vote for Obama.
GET OUT AND VOTE!
how
June 16, 2008 - 21:33 ET by JethrofishDecades to recover from ??
June 17th 2008 we are trying to recover from 8 years of repulicans....aren't you? Are you proud? holy jeepers.
Are you saying an intelligent leader will be worse then a dumb fuc* ?
Yes...it will take decades to recover from a billion a month on a wrong war and lost world respect and allience. Hey..and outing our spies in a time of war.......save pardons.... = hanging. Ask the CIA captians above her if she was covert. dick.
dumb fuc*
June 16, 2008 - 21:36 ET by shawn228I am by far not the biggest fan of George Bush, but I think it is over the line calling him a dumb fuc*
JethroFish for
June 16, 2008 - 21:41 ET by Clear thinkerJethroFish for President!
Probably the same Jethro from the Beverly Hillbillies.
"Abstain from McCain"
It's Jindal, not jundal
June 16, 2008 - 19:12 ET by ChaitealoverAnd if you've never heard of him you're simply not paying attention, which leads me to the conclusion that you wouldn't be voting Republican, no matter who was on the ballot.
I'll vote for McCain because, especially after the Gitmo decision, I care who chooses the next Supreme Court Justices. McCain says he'll choose judges like Roberts and he's given me no reason to believe he won't.
Chai
“A liberal is a man who will give away everything he doesn’t own.” —Frank Dane
I have to agree with
June 16, 2008 - 09:23 ET by futbolisgreat1I have to agree with Gingrich on the possibility that Democrats can lose in November and lose big do to the high cost of gasoline.
However, the only way that this happens is that the Republicans do their job and put on the laps of Democrats the high cost of energy. Republicans are not as good as Democrats at doing this.
Furthermore, the Republicans have to not only fight the Democrats, they have to fight a mass media that is against them. So the Republicans do have their work cut out for them if they want to win in November, but it is possible.
They should start putting billboards all over the USA with a picture of Pelosi and Reid with the price of gasoline in their mouth. Just like Rush Limbaugh had it on his website. This would get the poine accross.
The Republicans should also start using Democrat sound bites, like Sen. DICK Durbin's who claim that drilling in America today, would not produce oil for 5 years. Yet, this same idiot admitted that it would take the same amount of time or more to get an alternative type of fuel out on the roads that would be affordable.
Republicans can win in Novemeber, but only if they grow a pair.
I'd listen to Newt!
June 16, 2008 - 09:23 ET by MeanderingNewt's the man and I think people should listen to his opinions. Jindal is the best VP candidate in my mind. Plus, America needs to know its the Democrats as to why gas is so high. They won't drill, they didn't drill 10 years ago which would have kept us from getting into this mess and drilling now will show the world we are serious about this and will not take it lying down which will cause gas to drop in price. Let's turn this oil crisis from a Republican issue to a Democrat problem.
So what was up with the
June 16, 2008 - 09:24 ET by wiwfSo what was up with the technical difficulties yesterday? I was feeling empty all day :( Glad to see the site up and running again!
Oh and I'm back from Ireland! It was loads of fun.
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
What happened?
June 16, 2008 - 09:40 ET by ChaitealoverIt was a tough day w/o NewsBusters. I even went to http://hotrantsmedia... and tried getting in that way, to no avail. I followed links to articles that had been posted since I had last tried to get on here, and still was taken back to a site that had something to do with domain names [but still had the NewsBusters title]. Please someone, fill in the blanks.
Chai
“A liberal is a man who will give away everything he doesn’t own.” —Frank Dane
It's on a thread...
June 16, 2008 - 13:51 ET by Indiana JoeHere's the explanation.
I thought this was a bit
June 16, 2008 - 09:34 ET by Hero SquadI thought this was a bit refreshing... a respected Hollywood actor who doesn't use his fame as a bully pulpit, even when CNN gives him the opportunity (William Hurt):
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"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Gingrich is Wrong by Four Years but Right on Oil
June 16, 2008 - 09:38 ET by MSD6First Step - McCain needs to pick Romney. He will help carry Michigan, a must have swing state and give McCain credibility with economic issues. The Republicans should continually remind the public of the Democrats no drilling, no refineries, no Nukes platform everyday. They are the cause of our energy problem. How many U.S jobs would be created if we could do the above? How many billions would not go to the likes of Iran, Saudia Arabia and Venezuela? Repeat, Repeat, Repeat!
Second Step: McCain should step aside in four years for a Romney / Jindal Ticket. This would be much more viable going forward and could provide another 16 years of Republican Leadership. McCain would be seen as an hero if the first term goes well and be viewed as a positive elder statesman like Reagan and Bush 41 and unlike Clinton and Carter.
Third Step - McCains 1st Term: 1. Win the war in a hurry and remove at least half the troops 2. Get spending under control. Veto, Veto, Veto. 3. Get some backbone and blast back at the Dems everytime they pull one of their "the republicans don't care about the children" stunts. Do something about energy including more oil and nuclear.
That's it.
First step: Your first two
June 16, 2008 - 19:25 ET by SchnikeysFirst step: Your first two sentences are a possibility, but Romney leads too much of a RINO platform (his gun-control enthusiasm, anyone?) for conservatives to be much more enthusiastic about. As for the rest of this step, the GOP have their heads too far up their you-know-whats to grow any backbone over the next few months. Your solution is good...getting the GOP to follow it, uh-uh.
Second step: I think that a ticket with Romney would also tarnish Jindal's political career, even if not as much as a McCain/Jindal ticket would. It wouldn't be very effective at shaving off unnecessary RINO influence.
Third step: Sounds satisfactory, but do you really think McCain's going to be "blasting" any of the Democrats while doing all of that? The primary problem is the lack of backbone and smarts (the latter of which primarily applies to RINOs) on part of the GOP.
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2012 could see Bobby make a
June 16, 2008 - 19:50 ET by Clear thinker2012 could see Bobby make a run for POTUS and then Mitt being his VP pick would make sense. Gotta get that RINO vote!
"Abstain from McCain"
"Gotta get that RINO
June 16, 2008 - 20:01 ET by Schnikeys"Gotta get that RINO vote!"
No we don't. Gotta prove the RINOs wrong and show them how they're wrong...gotta show them what conservatism is and why it doesn't (nor should the GOP) tolerate their mindsets.
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Schnik... I know, I know.
June 16, 2008 - 20:04 ET by Clear thinkerSchnik...
I know, I know. It was just a joke.
"Abstain from McCain"
Ah. Good joke,
June 16, 2008 - 20:42 ET by SchnikeysAh. Good joke, then.
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Vent
June 16, 2008 - 09:39 ET by MassConservI gave up watching network news a long time ago. It had gotten to the point that I couldn’t watch a single segment without looking for the liberal slant in it. The only news programs I still watch regularly are my local news at night and on weekend mornings. And most of the time I can get through an entire show without my bias radar going haywire. Not so on Saturday morning…
During a segment on the passing of Tim Russer the previous day, one local news station aired a subtle but undeniably biased view of how the various politicos reacted to the news about Russert.
They opened with a comment by ‘Presidential candidate Barak Obama’, taking the time to air an approximately 7-10 second sound bite of BHO waxing poetically on the passing of one of media’s greats. In contrast, they mentioned that a few Republican politicians also had messages of condolences to Russert’s family, mentioning by name John McCain and President Bush. Then they showed a 2 second clip of Bush’s comments and talked over what he actually said. And no mention that John McCain was a candidate for President.
That’s it. Can you imagine? McCain obviously couldn’t be bothered to make an eloquent comment on the passing of Tim Russert, and equally obvious our Savior BHO was so deeply moved by Russert’s passing that he took time out of his busy schedule to express his great sorrow.
[sarc off]
GAH!!!!!
I gotta agree with Warner here, leave Bobby where he is
June 16, 2008 - 09:45 ET by DotcomanI gotta agree with Warner, leave Bobby where he is.
LA, and the rest of the Country really needs Bobby Jindal down there straightening that messed up State out.
The only thing more damaging than a Obama or a McCain Presidenacy would be to take Bobby out of the Governorship of LA at this point.
The way I still see it, there are still two open VP slots and Hitlary Clinton is gonna try like hell to get one of them. And Barrack would be stupid as well as suicidal to even consider her and Bill.
John McCain on the other hand, is just that stupid and suicidal. Hitlary on McCain's ticket would be perfect that way, there'd be someone in the Admin. with a pair of balls. And I really hate to say this, but she's actually turning out to be more conservative than McCain.
And lets not forget, John McCain hates Christians and Conservatives, has a history of throwing us under the bus every chance he gets, he's actually freinds with Hitlary and Bill, and he's a big enough jerk to do it too.
Not Jindal
June 16, 2008 - 09:54 ET by GothampcJindal should be seasoned a bit more and saved for the future. McCain should consider Michael Steele.
Also, McCain needs to quit insulting Evangelical Christians and appoint a VP that will bring them back to the party. Obviously he's more interested in attracting angry Hillary supporters, but they won't support the GOP in the next 4, 8, 12 years.
Goth
June 16, 2008 - 10:37 ET by Noel SheppardGoth,
I love the idea of Michael Steele. Very, very sharp conservative gentleman that could throw a monkey-wrench into the racial component of this election. Do you think he's being seriously considered? ns
McCain and the GOP would be
June 16, 2008 - 12:02 ET by GothampcMcCain and the GOP would be crazy not to have him on the short list.
Look at his background. His mother was a widowed laundress who worked for minimum wage rather than accept welfare. Steele grew up in a Democrat household but switched to the GOP. His B.S. is in international relations and he has a J.D. He's worked with Wall Street types and has the economic knowledge that McCain says he (McCain) personally lacks. In interviews, he comes across as very calm and well informed. He doesn't have the baggage that others have (Romney and socialized medicine in MA). He's young enough that he won't be considered "old" in a POTUS run in 2012 or 2016.
McCain would be crazy not to at least put him on the short list.
Plus think of the motto they could spin: It will be a McCain Steele in 2008.
Sounds like a good secretary
June 16, 2008 - 13:26 ET by Dan The Man 2Sounds like a good secretary of state. He would be good as a VP for votes but better as Sec of State.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
The Facts on Gas Prices
June 16, 2008 - 10:02 ET by MSD6The average national U.S. price for gasoline has increased by $1.95 per gallon* since the Democrats took control of both houses of congress (week of 1/21/07). That's an 91.5% increase in less than 17 months ($2.13 to $4.08). Almost Double!!!! So much for the Democrats campaign promise to lower the price of oil and gas once elected. They lied big-time to the American Public just to get elected. Source - www.GasBuddy.com
Please copy an paste and send this fact to everyone in your address book. Please.
Whoever Mc picks it needs
June 16, 2008 - 10:27 ET by Right2thePointWhoever Mc picks it needs to be someone to put forward as a follow up to him in office rather than have another non incumbant election.
With the Obama camp saying today their strategy will ignore Ohio and Fl that will change the calculus as to who can 'help' Mc on the ticket.
But that could be a head fake by the Obama team in the process.
However Obama got creamed in Fl and it would take a major effort for him to win here since the state doesn't match up to his demographic for his supporters which is the New Dukakis Caucus of Black/Elitist-eggheads/college kids. Too many of the Dems here are Clinton camp women and senior citizens which he is weak on.
I look for Michigan to also give him trouble and Penn could even be an issue if Mc plays his cards right.
Obama is looking to turn Va and Colorado, but the refusal by ex Gov Warner of VA to be his VP (who was likely the first choice for both him and Hilliary to pull the state) doesn't help and Webb would have the same new kid problem except for his cabinet experience.
I have been pointing out through this entire cycle that if you review all the statements and positions of most of the candidates and their debate responses, they act like they are running for the Senate instead of the President. It's all about which laws they want to pass rather than sweeping policy directions. Mc at least seems more tuned into that fact.
Read Obama's site and it's almost like a laundry list of programs and weak claims of experience based on bills he has recently introduced carefully dodging that few if any are even out of committee but leaving the impression (false) that he accomplished something.
I can personally promise
June 16, 2008 - 20:50 ET by SchnikeysI can personally promise you that Obama is going to win both Virginia and North Carolina safely. The reason for that? It points to voter irrationality as usual, but (as I've been posting about constantly) it also has to do with the GOP having jelly arms when it comes to dealing with the opposition.
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Schn... Jelly-arms...I
June 16, 2008 - 20:54 ET by bigtimerSchn...
Jelly-arms...I like that description.
Fits perfectly most times.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
Schnikeys... I'm not so
June 16, 2008 - 20:57 ET by Clear thinkerSchnikeys...
I'm not so sure about North Carolina. The primaries were one thing, the general is going to look alot different. What will decide North Carolina will be the racist arm of the Democrat party. From what I have been hearing from the Dems in this state (NC), most are gonna go with the old white guy.
"Abstain from McCain"
Have you been to
June 16, 2008 - 21:23 ET by SchnikeysHave you been to Raleigh/Durham and that area of the state lately? The immense campaign crap for Obama that I see around that area (and numerous other areas of the state) says nothing? To my understanding, McCain is suffering in the polls there as well.
Now if we had a conservative candidate, VA and NC would be waiting in his or her front pocket, which makes me wonder if a lot of this isn't attributable to conservatives staying home.
I still promise you that Virginia will go to Obama. VA is in a unique situation where we have significant amounts of northerners pouring into the state, bringing their politics with them. Aside from that, the local media bias here is amazing. One news program highlighted a time when Obama stopped in the state to "visit". Shortly after, it reported how McCain stopped by Richmond to "raise money".
Little things.
And the VA GOP's answer to all this is to put forth RINO Jim Gilmore as their candidate for U.S. Senate?! The guy who during his governorship shamelessly imposed a tax on automobiles and still feels comfortable calling himself a conservative? Not in this lifetime.
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"It could be the answer to our age-old, philosophical question, 'Why are we here?' PLASTIC!"
You are correct about
June 16, 2008 - 21:24 ET by Clear thinkerYou are correct about Virginia because the area beyond DC has been expanding like crazy and liberal Dems are almost as common as bird crap.
We will just have to wait and see about NC. The Raleigh/Durham area may very well go to Obama baby, but the rest of the state still has an overwhelming amount of old timey racist Democrats.
"Abstain from McCain"
Clear....not Hippie Hill
June 16, 2008 - 21:18 ET by jefflebowskiClear, those blue scumbellies from Hippie Hill will never vote for McPain. They have a hard time finding time for class with all of the war protests!
Jeff Lebowski - NCSU '89
www.angrywhitedude.c...
jeff... I'm talking about
June 16, 2008 - 21:26 ET by Clear thinkerjeff...
I'm talking about people that actually go out and vote instead of lighting another joint and saying dumb stuff like "wow man".
"Abstain from McCain"
Clear, the libs in Chapel Hill
June 16, 2008 - 21:34 ET by jefflebowskikeep electing that liberal tool David Price! Man, what I would do to get a Texas rope match with that commie.
Jeff Lebowski
www.angrywhitedude.c...
jeff... It would be the
June 16, 2008 - 21:46 ET by Clear thinkerjeff...
It would be the shortest match in history. The moment he saw you with the rope he would crap his drawers and run like hell. His type are almost always cowards.
"Abstain from McCain"
Haha! Always like a Chong
June 16, 2008 - 21:39 ET by SchnikeysHaha! Always like a Chong impression!
In a Chong voice: "Don't need any of those lame-o voters, man!"
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"It could be the answer to our age-old, philosophical question, 'Why are we here?' PLASTIC!"
Issues for the general 1)
June 16, 2008 - 10:33 ET by Right2thePointIssues for the general
1) Iraq success and the way forward and hammer the anti-war pandering to the nutroots the dems have done
2) Energy policy....we have the hammer use it
3) SCOTUS....3 or more appointments for the next president even if he will have to fight a Senate with a near or actual Dem majority.
4) Immigration BUT NOT as a comprehensive abortion...one step at a time and get it right before going on to the next..to much wrong with the whole comprehensive approach.
5) Corporate Tax reduction to take away the penalty we have to compete with foreign companies and if pushed low enough could bring even more foreign subsidiaries here for employment gains.
Hillary Will Not be Obama's VP
June 16, 2008 - 13:07 ET by GothampcI think we can settle the question "Will Hillary be Obama's VP"?
The Obama campaign hired Patti Solis Doyle to be the Chief of Staff to the VP nominee. (Unless the Hillary/Patti bitterness was just an act. Stranger things have happened).
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/16/1146074.aspx
Chuck Asay Cartoon 6-14-08
June 16, 2008 - 13:11 ET by ricklailHere's another good one from Chuck Asay.
“A debate is a conflict which clarifies a position. A dialogue is a conversation which compromises a position.” –John E. Ashbrook, The New Neutralism II, P. 7
Daily Kos haters revel in Russert's death
June 16, 2008 - 13:50 ET by Jack BauerDon't extreme leftists/commies/anarchists/ have ANY shame. Don't they have one ounce of human compassion.
Apparently not. And we know that from the way they react over conservatives like Tony Snow contract cancer.
Little Green Footballs has compliled an Orwellian WEEKEND OF HATE of the Daily Kos regarding the sad death of Tim Russert.
What is wrong with these people?
http://www.littlegre...
Oh my...Breaking
June 16, 2008 - 14:38 ET by bigtimerOh my...Breaking News!
Gore to endorse Obama tonight...big major new story...9PM eastern time too...why we'll all be glued to the television screens with eager anticipation!
Gasp...sputter...shocking...just shocking...so surprised here!
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
LOL BT
June 16, 2008 - 14:41 ET by Dee Bunkyou put this so well.
Darn, Dirty Jobs is on
June 16, 2008 - 14:45 ET by MassConservDarn, Dirty Jobs is on tonight at that time.
I would have liked to have watched that news conference.
;-)
The next socialist bailout
June 16, 2008 - 14:59 ET by sarcasmoIs so far apparently trying to be a secret, but without much luck...Also note the credit default swap market magically went from an ugly $45.5 TRILLION to an even-uglier $60(!) TRILLION (that's thousand-billion, and 1 billion's a thousand million, folks).
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
fully cloaked, as usual on fiscal issues...
June 17, 2008 - 04:14 ET by sarcasmoBut can people here at least see why this looming disaster of dishonesty (well, I can't think of an honest explanation, but if someone has one, I'm all ears) might be just a smidge more-important to America's future than 2 homosexuals getting married in California??
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Rights are being eroded
June 16, 2008 - 15:26 ET by LionKingA man was arrested for preaching on a public sidewalk outside of the Liberty Bell. There is both irony and sadness.
The communists (aka Demoncrats) and their media outlets and militant operations (ACLU, Planned Parenthood) are stealing our rights. If we continue to sit by and allow this, soon we will have no rights.
I want to see Jindal be
June 16, 2008 - 19:41 ET by SchnikeysI want to see Jindal be re-elected as Governor to prove his valor. Being Governor over that state (Katrina, etc.) and keeping a good record while doing so will seriously boost his reputation nationwide. He is definitely intelligent. I saw him interviewed by Blitzer on CNN about a VP position, and it seemed like he was more interested in remaining Governor than making a power grab. Good for him.
The same goes for Sarah Palin. I'd like to see her re-elected to the Guv position before going for any federal offices.
In a hypothetical situation where they were running for President, both of them seem like they would really be able to rack up crappy Dem policies, detail them satisfactorily to the public and effectively display why those policies were bad for America. And if Obama gets enough nerve to steal policies from the GOP and pass them off as his own...well, I think Jindal and Palin would both be able to make minced meat of the Dems for something like that as well.
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"It could be the answer to our age-old, philosophical question, 'Why are we here?' PLASTIC!"
Court Upholds 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy. Where is Media?
June 16, 2008 - 23:54 ET by BritcomSource: Human Events
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Communist vs. Statist '08
Q. Is Panamanian born John McCain a "Natural Born Citizen"
"sick liberal" Reagan Appointee Judge's wife responds
June 17, 2008 - 07:04 ET by sarcasmoAnd LA Times still thinks they're entitled to their own facts. I repeat: A hilarious video of an aroused donkey chasing after some guy IS NOT BESTIALITY. Period. The LA Times can lie & deny all they want, but they still don't get to make up "fact." AK's wife is right. She busted the lurid lies most media critics, including this site, parroted, which means the NB Editors' Picks still look like another clueless dud, as I've reported in repeated Open Threads at this point.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.