Open Thread

For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: what now for Bill and Hill?

The Clintons may be so angry they aren't thinking clearly. They didn't realize they had stretched to the breaking point the patience of their followers for putting their own well-being above that of the party.

Is there an end game ahead, or are the Clintons so shocked and angry they don't know what to do next? Is it the Veep position she wants, or are they still looking to bring this fight to Denver? On the other hand, is this all about keeping the party divided long enough to assure a McCain victory that allows her a 2012 run?

Finally, what has this campaign done to how history will view this couple? Has their deplorable behavior completely stripped away the veneer that's been making Thunderbird look like Cristal for almost two decades? Can she go back to the Senate and be an effective legislator if she doesn't act like a team player soon? And, has his stock so plummeted that his days as goodwill ambassador are behind him?