For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: what now for Bill and Hill?
The Clintons may be so angry they aren't thinking clearly. They didn't realize they had stretched to the breaking point the patience of their followers for putting their own well-being above that of the party.
Is there an end game ahead, or are the Clintons so shocked and angry they don't know what to do next? Is it the Veep position she wants, or are they still looking to bring this fight to Denver? On the other hand, is this all about keeping the party divided long enough to assure a McCain victory that allows her a 2012 run?
Finally, what has this campaign done to how history will view this couple? Has their deplorable behavior completely stripped away the veneer that's been making Thunderbird look like Cristal for almost two decades? Can she go back to the Senate and be an effective legislator if she doesn't act like a team player soon? And, has his stock so plummeted that his days as goodwill ambassador are behind him?
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Well, it's beginning to
June 5, 2008 - 10:18 ET by motherbeltWell, it's beginning to look like she won't get the VP nod....(sorry, the link is extremely slow to load).
I know it won't happen, but I wish Obama would just tell her to go away, and to take her husband with her!
No
June 5, 2008 - 10:29 ET by cvgbuckeyeI would not vote for a Clinton or any other dem, if they were the last people on earth BUT, if our own candidates had the committment to Conservatism as this woman has to socialism and if our candidates had the fight in them that Ms. Clinton does, we would not be in the grips of a death struggle to keep the USA a Representative Republic.
Am I Watching The Same Election?
June 5, 2008 - 11:41 ET by zeestephenOut of 35 million votes cast, the largest primary vote in history, Mrs. Clinton lost to Obama by 40,000 votes, about 0.01%.
I absolutely do not understand the tone or the substance of the news coverage on this story at NewsBusters.
Is everyone here so blinded by Clinton-hatred that they have forgotten the purpose of NewsBusters?
Mrs. Clinton lost this election because she and her husband were massacred by the MSM, something they could not have foreseen, and something they had no previous experience with.
Bill and Hillary got the same MSM treatment that all Conservatives and most Republicans get.
Clinton's opponent, Obama, was treated like a living god who was forgiven of a multitude of political sins that would have destroyed any white candidate.
The Clinton's did not "stretch" their supporters to the breaking point.
The Clinton's campaign was no more "deplorable" than any other campaign I've seen in the last 50 years.
The Clinton's were politically stunned by the MSM assault, and they acted like people who were stunned.
The same MSM that claimed Al Gore was cheated out of the White House in 2000 now DEMANDED that Hillary drop out in 2008, even though her race was five times closer than Gore's, and even though Hillary had valid arguments to continue, namely, that super delegates are not pledged and can be convinced to change their minds.
I am also politically stunned.
The Clinton campaign was destroyed by the MSM, and no one at NewsBusters even noticed.
You Think We Haven't Noticed?
June 5, 2008 - 11:49 ET by Noel SheppardZS,
The Clinton campaign was destroyed by the MSM, and no one at NewsBusters even noticed.
Was your tongue glued to your cheek when you made this assertion? NewsBusters has been reporting for WELL OVER A YEAR the media's love affair with Obama.
If you think we missed this, you haven't been reading our website every day since Obama announced his candidacy in 2007. ns
Zee Responds
June 5, 2008 - 12:16 ET by zeestephenNoel,
I was speaking about this specific NB post.
This specific post appears to my eye as the official NB post-mortem on Clinton's campaign.
"Stretching" her supporters to the limit, and running a "deplorable" campaign are not what I take away from Clinton's defeat.
Yes, your coverage of the MSM deification of Obama has been flawless.
However, NB coverage of the MSM's savage treatment of the Clintons always carries a satisfied tone that the Clintons are getting "what they deserve."
In my opinion, if it is wrong for the MSM to treat me and my fellow Conservatives savagely, it is wrong for the MSM to treat the Clintons savagely.
Bottom line, Clinton lost because of the MSM, Obama won because of the MSM.
If that story is being covered at NewsBusters, please give me the link, because I didn't see it.
In all fairness, the topic
June 5, 2008 - 12:54 ET by stratmanIn all fairness, the topic of Hillary getting the "republican treatment" by the MSM has been discussed by a variety of posters.
I have been disgusted with the MSM treatment of Hillary since they declared her incapable of winning about a month ago. Who the hell are the MSM to declare any candidate dead when the race is nowhere near completed. Since the MSM attacked Fred Thompson even before he declared his candidacy, and then pettily attacked his choice of shoes on his first big campaign stop, I have been disgusted by the gerrymandering of this election by the MSM.
I am not for Hillary. But I am for her being able to wage her desire to campaign to the conclusion of the primaries or whenever she decides to fold, free of MSM electioneering and manipulation.
Whether the out of control MSM is one bastard child of McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform mess, or if it is the culmination of Leftist MSM infiltration that considers itself free to perform activist journalism, the subversion of the election process of the MSM is an abomination in this Republic.
RRAM Tough!
Fred's *hardly* the only Republican candidate
June 5, 2008 - 12:56 ET by sarcasmoTo get the "he can't win" treatment by a clueless "mainstream" media. Indeed, John McCain himself got it at one point, due largely to his campaign's penchant for spending. And I'm supposed to believe he's somehow anything like a fiscal conservative...
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Instaread of
June 5, 2008 - 14:21 ET by Dan The Man 2Instaread of "gerrymandering of this election by the MSM" I prefer the true term, jury rigging. Gerrymandering is legal whereas jury rigging is not. This whole cycle has been jury rigging by teh MSM, a practice declared illegal by election laws. The press is supposed to be impartial and why they get the leeway in election laws, but when they are not then what they do is illegal.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
ZS
June 5, 2008 - 21:05 ET by Noel SheppardZS,
This isn't a post. It's not "the official NB post-mortem on Clinton's campaign."
It's an Open Thread, designed to evoke comment. That's all. ns
Z can't help it. Years of
June 5, 2008 - 12:29 ET by mattmZ can't help it. Years of Clinton-worship have a tendency to decrease brain functionality. Also, a little BDS (and NBDS) doesn't help.
"Is everyone here so blinded by Clinton-hatred..." Another typical pot-vs.-kettle statement.
mattm - You Completely Miss My Point
June 5, 2008 - 16:11 ET by zeestephenOnce again, my point is:
Clinton lost the closest primary in history because of shamelessly biased coverage by the MSM after Super Tuesday.
The response at NewsBusters, by staff and readers, is somewhere between satisfaction and glee that the Clintons got "what they deserved."
If NewsBusters believes it is wrong for the MSM to assault Conservatives for the benefit of Democrats, then it is also wrong for the MSM to assault the Clintons for the benefit of Obama.
You mean something like what I mean by "1 standard"
June 5, 2008 - 16:16 ET by sarcasmoLet's just say it takes lots of reminders on some days around here...
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
You dont understand, the
June 5, 2008 - 17:27 ET by Dan The Man 2You dont understand, the response is the Clintons were trashed by the MSM. We revel the Clintons got their jsut deserts but, at the same time point out teh MSM is jsut handing out what they give to conservatives all teh time. We are happy that a Democrat is on teh recieving end because it might wake some up to the fact the MSN is biased beyond belief.
But we can still laugh at someone falling down even though they are probably badly hurt. And we can revel in teh bad guy getting her due punishment at the end of a movie. To paraphrase words in the "The Island of Doctor Moreau"Are we not human?"
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Good questions all, ... In
June 5, 2008 - 12:10 ET by Ten7sGood questions all, ... In fairness, the point that the MSM has sandbagged Hillary as though she were a Republican has been covered quite a lot here at NB. But it seems that one of the pitfalls of feverishly correcting the mendatious MSM is moving so fast that the MSM gets to frame the issues/debates. So with the apparent assension of Sen. Barack Hussein Obama to the Dem nomination, some may have lost focus on the bigger (and often raised by NB) issue, namely the MSM is completely in the tank for BHO.
And didn't Sen. Hillary actually win the pop. vote in the Dem primary? Where's the outrage from all of the Dems who for nearly eight years have been carping, "We wuz' robbed!"?
And with the Dem system that includes Superdelegates that can switch at any time until the nominee is officially choosen in November, there's really no reason for Hillary to conceed, esp. if she won the popular vote.
From my personal perspective, the most interesting thing about this primary is how thoroughly and evenly divided the Dem Party seems to be.
The "H" Word
June 5, 2008 - 15:04 ET by kilrodI think you are mistakin contempt as hatred. the clintons, the obamas, the dimocrats, the cs-msm, don't rate hate, contempt is the best they can do.
(GRINS) kilrod
Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier
You give way too much credit to the MSM...
June 5, 2008 - 23:27 ET by JayTeeHillary's Negatives would drive Polar Bears to the Tropics . . The MSM are just Observers, thier ratings reflect their power.
The Purpose of NB (IMHO) is to report the Truth...when the MSM can't Figure it out.
McCains VP slot is available....
June 5, 2008 - 10:27 ET by JTPHis campaign could use some cojones and someone a little more conservative than him.
I think McCain can use something else
June 5, 2008 - 10:32 ET by 10ksnookerMcCain seriously needs more charisma, pep and spring in his step. His last speech was awful and given badly. Can you say ploddingly? You couldn't do worse if you tried.
Shows McCain is nothing without his drive-by enablers.
The drive-bys were McCain's
June 5, 2008 - 12:12 ET by motherbeltThe drive-bys were McCain's "enablers" only while he was running against other Republicans. Now that they have a Democrat candidate, he will be kicked to the curb faster than you can say "Maverick."
Won't matter. How many
June 5, 2008 - 12:22 ET by NL207Won't matter.
How many white people do you know that, regardless what they say in public, will actually pull that Obama lever in the voting booth with the inspiring words of Rev. Jeremiah Wright ringing in their ears?
D-I-V-O-R-C-E
June 5, 2008 - 10:28 ET by CaringwhiteguyHillary's best chance to survive as a viable future candidate is to chuck Bubba over the side and start anew. The possibilties are oh so intriguing. . . . .
1) There should be an amazing number of aging boomer, wanna-be metro-sexual liberal men that wouldn't mind whoring themselves to be her partner (like she whored herself for Bill). Think Sidney Blumenthal. 2) There also should be a good selection of same gender partners willing to assume the position (pun intended) on behalf of "women's rights." Think Billie Jean King or Sheryl Swoops. 3) Or she could just go it alone to show us all she really is the smartest, toughest, most capable woman on the face of the earth.
I can hardly wait to see it all unfold.
Whitey....Male brothels don't work
June 5, 2008 - 23:31 ET by JayTeeWhen Ugly women go to a Male Brothel.....the guys have to "respond".
For Hillary, and the Bonding/Partner you are proposing, there will be too many Balls in the Room. 4 is a Crowd.
The house hasn't fallen
June 5, 2008 - 10:28 ET by 10ksnookerOn her yet. So until then, she is still kicking. Wait for the "toe curl".
I wonder why there is so little discussion of Boxer's massive tax increase hidden under the smoke and haze of doing something about controlling the weather. The taxes are massive and the effects will be devestating. Do people think they're not serious? Bad bet. The Democrats would like nothing more (well maybe take the guns out of the hands of the people) than to destroy capitalism and install socialism so they could attend all those neat parties with their European Socialist friends with their heads held high.
Communism didn't fail, it just wasn't given enough tax money.
Democrats made easy, "raise taxes, fund socialism and gun control". You connect the dots.
What's Most Concerning
June 5, 2008 - 10:29 ET by bradbenj5952The most concerning aspect of all this is that the American people for the most part no longer see behavior such as displayed by Bill and Hillary Clinton as deplorable.
"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." - C.S. Lewis
Whay next?
June 5, 2008 - 10:31 ET by cheesegraterIf BO gets the presidency I think a Supreme Court nomination for one or both and with a Dem. Senate they will be shoo ins.
What next, part duex
June 5, 2008 - 11:09 ET by ThisnThatGiven the Dims incessant caving to feel-good politics, I wonder if the die has been cast so that no white male will be nominated again for a long, long time for Dim president? Unless, of course, he's homosexual? The answer might depend on Obama's showing in November, of course, but I believe expectations have been laid down and an unwritten policy has been spelled out.
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With just a little luck,
June 5, 2008 - 10:32 ET by Captain RepusWith just a little luck, she will fade back into the Senate and become just like all the other insignificant aging overweight blowhards who finish out their long, long, very long life making meaningless motions, playing to the CSPAN cameras, further enriching themselves and their in-crowd enablers.
The best thing to come out of this situation is that our national disgrace, Bill Clinton has finally been exposed as the shallow, immoral ego-maniac he really is and will be swept from the world stage and out of our lives.
It's the economy, Stupid MSM
June 5, 2008 - 10:34 ET by ThisnThatHas anyone noticed the latest economic reports? Growth; jobs; -- all going up, up, up. This is very bad news for Dims -- if the MSM ever reports it. The market watchers are stunned: "Initial claims are now below the level considered by some economists to be consistent with recession conditions". There! Someone said it -- there are no recession conditions; there was no recession; the sky didn't fall.
Once again, President Bush has continued the free market conditions necessary to keep the economy moving. Will the press ever report this? Will the Dims ever recognize this? Or will the next MSM headline be: "We're in a recession now; headed for a Depression"? Or will Pelosi and Reed continue to say: "but, but, but, but,...."?
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Barr on Colbert
June 5, 2008 - 10:37 ET by sarcasmoBarr was just ok, but in between the "Babar" graphic & the line about ALL the brownies, Colbert was hilarious.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Yeserday's WSJ...
June 5, 2008 - 10:42 ET by Prester John...had a lengthy article on the HRC's road to second place. It says that among other things, she lost because her campaign didn't understand the caucus game and didn't think they'd be important because she would have it wrapped up by 5 Feb. Obama organized in the caucus states and away he went.
Overconfidence, or as Father Dufus said, the sense of "entitlement", will do you in every time.
What's next?
June 5, 2008 - 12:28 ET by ricklailI wish that we could send them both back to Arkansas and they would be as unknown as they were 20 years ago.
“A debate is a conflict which clarifies a position. A dialogue is a conversation which compromises a position.” –John E. Ashbrook, The New Neutralism II, P. 7
Roadass, baby!
June 5, 2008 - 10:46 ET by SickofLibsPrediction: in 2009, Bill Clinton signs on as the new celebrity Viagra spokesman, and takes his ratpack on the road in a big velvet interiored tour bus.
If Slick's their choice...
June 5, 2008 - 10:50 ET by sarcasmoIt means they'll have officially started hyping the so far unspoken "recreational" vs the official "he needs it" (see early Bob Dole endorsement...) aspect of their wonder drug...
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
And now, today's
June 5, 2008 - 10:46 ET by Roger the ShrubberAnd now, today's extra-large Shrub Report®:
Congrads to the Red Wings. A team worthy of holding Lord Stanley's cup high!
*waits patiently for the John Murtha apology* Still waiting!
Another woman's rights are violated!
Whoops! We bad!
Today's "We're mired in Bushy McHitler's Recession!" update.
Pennsylvania's teamster thug governor on being an opportunistic scumbag: "I don't mean to sound lacking in humility, but if they try to make something out of that, I'll kill them," Rendell said. "I'll turn it so they'll wish they never brought it up."
The Minor-League Giveaway of the Week.
Quiz time, folks! Who said this: No one understands… how over-consumption by obese people in the [Western] world costs $20 billion each year. Was it
If you chose "1", you win!
More troop reductions in Iraq are in the works. The Surge has failed!
Today's time-waster.
Quiz time #2! Who said it? 40 Million Americans Don't Have Health Insurance, Hurricane Katrina Victims Still Have no Homes. Was it:
As usual, the Left is on the same page as the douchebags.
Today's Religion of Peace Update.
Another terror attack thwarted?
The Bumper Sticker of the Week.
Today's Global Warming Update.
And, finally, has anybody seen Sex in the City yet?
And now for today’s
June 5, 2008 - 15:19 ET by TruthMongerAnd now for today’s Jesus-inspired anti-defamation re-re-re-re-report…
...the cancer of Muslim bashers (warning - graphic bigot language):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ddwmAe6L-4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4F9solJoTU&feature=related
REMEMBER THE WORDS OF JESUS - LOVE YOUR ENEMY:)
http://www.dougbrittonbooks.com/onlinebiblestudies-irritationandangermanagement/loveyourenemy-lovingallyourenemies.asp
Partner with Islam…
http://progressivemuslims.org/
http://www.irw.org/
http://www.islamic-relief.com/
http://www.islamic-charity.com/
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/
http://www.mdda.org.uk/web/index.php
http://www.muslimheritage.com/Default.aspx
[Koran 2:136] Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed to us and that which was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have surrendered.
http://a4theroad.blogspot.com/2007/05/religion-koran-reading-sura-2.html
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/notislam/misconceptions.html
http://www.muslimgirlworld.com/mgmag/
rog
June 5, 2008 - 16:11 ET by misterbillMurtha Murtha
What on earth-uh
Do you have in mind?
Are you stressed or
Sore distressed
Our troops you have maligned.
Take a break
for heaven's sake
Lean back and make merry.
Give up your work
to be a jerk
Just another Kerry!!!!
Rog, about that Sen. Mc-Cap-n-trade bumper sticker.
June 5, 2008 - 22:13 ET by R D HelmHillarys pic should be replaced with one of McCain.
Then it really would be two cheeks of the same ass. :-)
bumper sticker
June 6, 2008 - 06:17 ET by cheesegraterMcCain is the orifice between them.
Lanny Davis was on Fox this
June 5, 2008 - 10:48 ET by misterbee241Lanny Davis was on Fox this morning spinning for Hillary. One good thing (among many) about her not being president is this twit wont be press secretary.
There is none so blind as they that won’t see. Jonathan Swift 1667-1745
Lanny Davis was on Fox this
June 5, 2008 - 10:48 ET by misterbee241Lanny Davis was on Fox this morning spinning for Hillary. One good thing (among many) about her not being president is this twit wont be press secretary.
There is none so blind as they that won’t see. Jonathan Swift 1667-1745
Hannity...
June 5, 2008 - 11:17 ET by Prester John...had Davis on yesterday and had him twisting in the air as he tried to explain why he'll still vote for Obama after the revelations about Wright came out, the Pfleger disgrace, the flip flopping on Iran and Rev Guards etc.
Prester, I was listening
June 5, 2008 - 22:21 ET by bigtimerPrester, I was listening too...he was so boxed in...it was great!
Btw..it was the first time I ever heard Cry-Baby-Davis in a mess he couldn't really get out of...Hannity did an excellent job.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
I am throwing my hat into
June 5, 2008 - 10:49 ET by bassndudeI am throwing my hat into the ring for the Republican VP slot. Someone call Mac and let him know.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
"I am throwing my hat into
June 5, 2008 - 11:26 ET by ckc1227"I am throwing my hat into the ring for the Republican VP slot. Someone call Mac and let him know."
According to Dick Morris, Joe Lieberman would be the best choice. Right, Dick, he would be the best choice if McCain's goal is to lose the few remaining conservative supporters that he has left.
You have that right, ckc.
June 5, 2008 - 12:27 ET by motherbeltYou have that right, ckc. But McCain doesn't seem to care. When I think of reading that at one time he thought of quitting the Republican party, was going to caucus with the Dems as an independent, it just makes me want to scream.
He instructed the Republicans that it was time to get behind him, and he was going to unify the party. Then he goes out and bashes Bush on Katrina, AGW, "mismanagement" (!) of the war and whatever else he can think of. Bush raised millions of dollars for him and he didn't even want his company! What was it Bob Dole called McClellan? A "total ingrate." Appropriate to McCain too.
He might as well go all the way and name Michael Bloomberg as his running mate. Bloomberg is a Democrat who decided to "call" himself a Republican to get on the ballot in NY.
A matched set.
Sorry for the rant. Can you tell I'm pi$$ed????
I think Sarcasmo beat you
June 5, 2008 - 11:27 ET by Ruths husband BenI think Sarcasmo beat you to it. McCain is expected to announce him as his running mate this afternoon.
"Whatever Michelle Says Is The Message." –
Senator Barack Obama October 1, 2007, Chicago HQ
Hey Ben are you
June 5, 2008 - 11:33 ET by red_dragon311Hey Ben
are you talking about Joe Lieberman, and if so is McCain that stupid???
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
-Gerald Ford
Would it really be that bad a choice??
June 5, 2008 - 11:38 ET by sarcasmoWhat McCain voter here would change his/her mind over Lieberman as VP? I know a few conservatives would protest, but I can't think of many. Currently, Kay Bailey Hutchinson & Haley Barbour have similar odds to Joe's.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
"What McCain voter here
June 5, 2008 - 12:01 ET by ckc1227"What McCain voter here would change his/her mind over Lieberman as VP?"
Well, I would for one. That would be the final straw as far as I'm concerned. I doubt I'm alone.
well i guess i just
June 5, 2008 - 12:04 ET by red_dragon311well i guess i just have a bad taste in my mouth from "Gore/Lieberman"
but i guesss ouy are right if you not going to vote for McCain at all him adding lieberman is no big deal
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
-Gerald Ford
No, I meant that McCain was
June 5, 2008 - 11:38 ET by Ruths husband BenNo, I meant that McCain was going to pick Sarcasmo as his running mate. Are you saying the Lieberman is Sarcasmo? Hmmm. The pieces are starting to fall into place for me....
(Sarc is going to hunt me down and shoot me like a dog when he reads this!)
"Whatever Michelle Says Is The Message." –
Senator Barack Obama October 1, 2007, Chicago HQ
Nah, I'm laughing...
June 5, 2008 - 11:42 ET by sarcasmoJoe's voting record isn't exactly my style when it comes to spending of various sorts, and that's so-obvious it makes your comment pretty funny.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
ok you know
June 5, 2008 - 12:10 ET by red_dragon311ok
you know anything a Benist like yourself i need to make sure i know what you mean
and i guess JOE Lieberman should be my guy as i am a staunch Joeist
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
-Gerald Ford
You might be right. hmmmm.
June 5, 2008 - 12:47 ET by ThisnThatYou might be right. hmmmm. Has anyone ever seen Sarc and Lieberman together? Have they every had their picture taken together? Nope, always separate appearances. Hmmmmmm.
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No wonder people
June 5, 2008 - 12:53 ET by sarcasmoHere call "Newsbusted" 'funny.' I don't mind good natured ribbing, but...Dud.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
My goodness, no.
June 5, 2008 - 11:33 ET by sarcasmoI have no idea who McCain will pick, but the somewhat sparse odds seem to favor Mitt. I've got a pretty good idea of the guy he won't pick, though...
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Suspended!
June 5, 2008 - 10:49 ET by fuzzydiceHillary has only suspended her campaign.
That means she's waiting for the final tally at the convention.
She's waiting for Obama to possibly implode from some major catastrophy.
In the mean time she'll try to convince super delegates to vote for her.
She's too stubbord and self centered to concede.
Heard on NPR this morning.
June 5, 2008 - 11:01 ET by SocratesThey were interviewing the African American secretary of some Museum in Maryland or Virginia. She said she was incredibly proud about Obama's nomination. That she hadn't let herself believe he could do it until now. "America's first black president", she said. The NPR reporter noted that she was reveling in just saying the words, and the lady agreed.
But then the amazing part: after rejoicing that a black man was going to win, she added in the very next breath that finally he'd be judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin. Without a trace of irony.
what world do these people
June 5, 2008 - 11:11 ET by red_dragon311what world do these people live in?????
he won BECAUSE of the color of his skin. but repeat a lie enough times......
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
-Gerald Ford
Oil's Well
June 5, 2008 - 11:16 ET by JDWMexico considering US pact. ...
JDW
If you mention ANWR it means you don't care about the environment but when congress says ANWR it means you don't care about the gasoline prices
I am not, I repeat NOT a
June 5, 2008 - 11:26 ET by Ruths husband BenI am not, I repeat NOT a HRC fan, but it seems to me that the Democratic Party has been pushing her to concede ever since Barack Obama won his first state primary. Clearly they were wrong when they said she couldn't compete with him because her delegate count now is not that far behind his and arguably she leads in popular vote. All this with the MSM totally in the tank for Obama. So, I find it odd that they keep telling her what to do. Doesn't she have the right to fight for the nomination? I personally would not want a President who would give up the first time the going got tough. All of Hilary's downside aside (and it is quite a downside!) she has proven that she is not a quitter.
"Whatever Michelle Says Is The Message." –
Senator Barack Obama October 1, 2007, Chicago HQ
"IS"
June 5, 2008 - 11:29 ET by kilrodWell dad-gum-it an gol-dang-it, we know bubba "did not have sex with that woman", and we know hil aint just "some little Tammy Wynette standin by her man" so i reckon it comes down ta what "the definition of is, is"?? grins, and more
(GRINS) kilrod
Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier
Not a "milestone", bur grim nonetheless
June 5, 2008 - 11:37 ET by Prester JohnMortgage bankers report hits grim a (sic) benchmark in first quarter, showing a record number of homes in jeopardy.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/05/news/economy/foreclosure/index.htm?postversion=2008060511
I be they would've loved to have used "grim milestone" but that phrase has already been trademarked for exclusive use with regard to Iraq casualties.
Just imagine the conversation
June 5, 2008 - 11:42 ET by YahooWatcherat the Chappaqua breakfast table-
You just couldn't keep your pants on, could you Bill?
Hillary, you ignorant slut.
Somebody's gonna pay. That motherbleeper Howard Dean better keep his head down.
A black guy - a bleeping black guy beat us. Can you believe that Bill? A bleeping bleeper.
Free Speech is gone in
June 5, 2008 - 11:46 ET by mattmFree Speech is gone in America
Now kids are being punished
June 5, 2008 - 12:40 ET by motherbeltNow kids are being punished for doing something with the "potential" to create a "situation."
Something tells me if the flag had been red with a star and crescent, it would not have been considered a "problem."
delete.
June 5, 2008 - 12:12 ET by Apacheargh, I logged in to reply to someone else and it made a new post
Unemployment went
June 5, 2008 - 12:26 ET by Roger the ShrubberUnemployment went down.
Good news, huh?
Not so fast!
Obviously, the numbers were down because the unemployment offices were closed for the Memorial Day holiday!
We're Screwed in 08!
June 5, 2008 - 12:30 ET by CrashAs I listened to McCain's poorly delivered pander pitch about change, I thought, "How many politicians does it take to screw up our liberty ... we're screwed no matter who gets elected." Then I saw this and thought I'd pass it along: http://www.cafepress...
Darth Vaders successor
June 5, 2008 - 12:51 ET by TjexciteWith all the power that VP Dick Cheney has "according to the left". Hillary will be more powerful as VP than President.
Darth Vaders successor
How long will Obama get to do all the change he calling for.
Michelle's "whitey" rant conservatives are salivating over
June 5, 2008 - 12:51 ET by sarcasmoSeems not to exist. Inconvenient...
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Michelle's "whitey" rant
June 5, 2008 - 13:41 ET by Jack BauerAnd let's not forget drooling Hillayocrats
Truth is neither you nor
June 5, 2008 - 14:07 ET by NL207Truth is neither you nor anyone else in the general public knows the true basis of these accuasation. Not even blogger Johnson knows the truth. Nobody willing to attach their name to the statement has publicly stated such video footage exists. Until someone is willing to show the video, everyone ought to be silent on this.
In the meantime, all those who discuss it have the same credibility as Dan Rather.
Of course I don't "know"
June 5, 2008 - 14:09 ET by sarcasmoHence the word: "seems."
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
A question
June 5, 2008 - 13:20 ET by ricklailWhy do all the pundits predict a big loss in Congress by the Republicans? I know they are lame but so are the Dems. Why don't they point out how gas and food prices have risen since the Dems took over in 2007? Are they all a bunch of nimrods? They are having some of the best issues hand to them by the Dimwits and they are doing nothing with it. I've complained to my congrecriter, Walter B. Jones, but he has his head so far up some Dem's hiney he is not listening.
With Obamanation running for the Dems why would people want to take a chance of the Dems running Congress and the White House?
“A debate is a conflict which clarifies a position. A dialogue is a conversation which compromises a position.” –John E. Ashbrook, The New Neutralism II, P. 7
I agree!
June 5, 2008 - 13:50 ET by billbAre we to believe that Republicans can't beat a democrat controlled congress with a 22% approval rating?????
Considering spending levels when they WERE in control...
June 5, 2008 - 13:52 ET by sarcasmoI'd say the answer is: "yep."
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Feel like a good coffee,
June 5, 2008 - 13:40 ET by Jack BauerFeel like a good coffee, rainy weather.. oh, and getting away with murder? Try Seattle!
Jack... Oh isn't this
June 5, 2008 - 16:04 ET by bigtimerJack...
Oh isn't this maddening....what, they couldn't find any sane people left in Seattle to form a jury....talk about insanity.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
bt -- yep, it's pretty
June 6, 2008 - 11:15 ET by Jack Bauerbt -- yep, it's pretty mind-boggling. Clearly the terrorist knew what he was doing driving 300 miles to Seattle to commit mass murder.
The sequel Jack - Guiltless in Seattle
June 6, 2008 - 11:21 ET by acumenJackie Chiles - You get me one kool-aid drinker on that jury, you gonna walk outta there a free man...