For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: is al Qaeda on the brink of defeat?
Less than a year after his agency warned of new threats from a resurgent al-Qaeda, CIA Director Michael V. Hayden now portrays the terrorist movement as essentially defeated in Iraq and Saudi Arabia and on the defensive throughout much of the rest of the world, including in its presumed haven along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border. In a strikingly upbeat assessment, the CIA chief cited major gains against al-Qaeda's allies in the Middle East and an increasingly successful campaign to destabilize the group's core leadership. While cautioning that al-Qaeda remains a serious threat, Hayden said Osama bin Laden is losing the battle for hearts and minds in the Islamic world and has largely forfeited his ability to exploit the Iraq war to recruit adherents. Two years ago, a CIA study concluded that the U.S.-led war had become a propaganda and marketing bonanza for al-Qaeda, generating cash donations and legions of volunteers.
Is the CIA chief and all the other analysts quoted in this WaPo piece right? Are we really close to defeating al Qaeda? Or, is this wishful thinking? Assuming he's right, does this mean it was wise to go into Iraq? And, given this upbeat assessment, how much press coverage will it get?
Comments Policy
Harvey Korman has passed
May 30, 2008 - 10:34 ET by balboaHarvey Korman has passed away. Aww, I loved this guy on Carol Burnett and, of course, as Hedley Lamarr.
Comedy
May 30, 2008 - 11:29 ET by iveseenitallWhen comedy was comedy, not ignorant smut and P.C. --- R.I.P., Harvey
Who is Barry Sotero?
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Sadly missed... but
May 30, 2008 - 10:48 ET by Jack BauerSadly missed... but remembered forever...
Taggart: What do you want me to do, sir?
Hedley Lamarr: I want you to round up every vicious criminal and gunslinger in the west. Take this down.
[Taggart looks for a pen and paper while Hedley talks]
Hedley Lamarr: I want rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and Methodists.
Taggart: [finding pen and paper] Could you repeat that, sir?
Yeah, I saw that this
May 30, 2008 - 10:50 ET by motherbeltYeah, I saw that this AM....they don't do comedy like that any more.
Everything Harvey Korman was
May 30, 2008 - 16:02 ET by Chris NormanEverything Harvey Korman was in he made funnier.
boa...and others... Amen
May 30, 2008 - 18:33 ET by bigtimerboa...and others...
Amen to all your posts...
He will be missed by me...comedy ain't what it used to be in many ways.
My prayers go out to all his loved ones.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Me too. He was great.
May 30, 2008 - 18:37 ET by sarcasmoBut I'll have to admit, I was surprised he was still alive! Heaven's a funnier place now, I'm sure.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
RIP, Mr. Korman.
May 30, 2008 - 21:48 ET by R D HelmYou were truly one of a kind.
We are being smothered by government in this country. - Neal Boortz
Celebrations!
May 30, 2008 - 10:37 ET by FoolicanHooray! They're finally trying to put the manatee on the Threatened Species List. Now all venues of oil drilling in the United States will be closed off, so big, mean oil companies can't destroy the environment and increase oil supply. Long live environmentalism! Glory to the party!
»→ Oh the Huge Manatees!!
May 30, 2008 - 10:44 ET by Cool ArrowThose propellers add street cred to the manatees.
It's their version of the "tramp stamp"
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ROFLMAO
May 30, 2008 - 10:55 ET by wizardjr"Those propellers add street cred to the manatees."
Very funny :-))
I hope foolican is sarc-ing again (he usually is). Manatees do not live or reproduce in waters we need for drilling. We could drill there, but today's drills can sideways drill for miles so we can stay well offshore.
McCain
May 30, 2008 - 11:30 ET by iveseenitallal-Qaeda dying? Looks like McCain was right on this one all along. We should have had a "surge" years ago.
BTW, why hasn't Barry Sotero (a.k.a. Barack H. Obama) spoken with General Petreus about the war? Does he "loathe" the military too.
Who is Barry Sotero?
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
The "greatest threat" to obese-government Huckabeeism
May 30, 2008 - 10:44 ET by sarcasmoIs apparently me. File under: "Yet more hatin' on libertarians."
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
New line
May 30, 2008 - 11:28 ET by iveseenitallSo that's the new line. If you are against government waste, against government intervention in every phase of your life, you are anti-American??? The ignoramuses who wrote that article have obviously not read the writings of our founders and other true Americans. Individualism and self-reliance are the keys to American success. Collectivism and Big Brotherism have put us on the road to disaster. Forced submission to the group think is what has caused the mess we are in. Collectivist ideas represent the ignorance which is being preached in our "schools", pushed by the left-wing media, and our socialist/communist candidates. THEY are anti-American! Scheeze!
Who is Barry Sotero?
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
»→ Florida begins hate campaign
May 30, 2008 - 10:53 ET by Cool ArrowJudge separates Florida Man from his love interest.
When will Florida join the 21st Century and allow inter-species love?
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an Al Franken acolyte
May 30, 2008 - 10:56 ET by wizardjrThis guy obviously took to heart Al Franken's writings for Playboy.
»→ Al Franken
May 30, 2008 - 11:08 ET by Cool ArrowDoes Al Franken have a lap dog also?
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oh yes!
May 30, 2008 - 11:18 ET by wizardjrHe has the entire Democrat-Farm-Labor Party of the Peoples Republic of Minnesota, and he's going to do to Minnesota and America what that joker was doing to his dog.
Al Queda on the verge of
May 30, 2008 - 10:55 ET by motherbeltAl Queda on the verge of defeat???
Hell no! It IS NOT!
This war is lost! Harry Reid said so!
It's a failure!! Her Speakerness said so!
Failure? No, it's a complete failure! Barack Obama said so!!
Maybe they should inform the CIA!
MB,
May 30, 2008 - 11:06 ET by MassConservNo, because the CIA works for the Bush administration and Bush lied us into the war to begin with. Just ask Scott McClellan!
So we should only be listening to the stalwart and all-knowing Dem leaders of Congress!
/sarc off
The Runocrats will
May 30, 2008 - 15:06 ET by ahusserfind a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Their motto: "Runaway, Runaway"
Someone please explain the Obama T-shirt Ad?!?
May 30, 2008 - 11:00 ET by SyriusAnyone want to explain the Ad to the right.......>>>>>>
Curious George (aka Obama) with a banana!!!
Nice, real nice.
Are you kidding me?
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
Why does everything have to
May 30, 2008 - 11:03 ET by mofosesameWhy does everything have to be a race issue with you libs?
»→ mofo
May 30, 2008 - 11:05 ET by Cool ArrowSyrius just indicated he didn't like it.
He didn't say he thought it was racist. If he thought it was racist, surely he'd say so.
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I think anything comparing
May 30, 2008 - 11:19 ET by balboaI think anything comparing a black person to a monkey/ape/gorilla is probably a bad idea.
Why? Are you saying black
May 30, 2008 - 11:22 ET by mofosesameWhy? Are you saying black people look like Monkeys???
Dude, you've got problems. Again, it's not the 40's, nobody says or thinks stuff like that anymore...except the liberals I know.
It has been a long-standing
May 30, 2008 - 11:27 ET by balboaIt has been a long-standing slur of black people to compare them to monkeys, as if they are something less than human, and therefore not worthy of being treated as humans.
I agree. Portrayals of
May 30, 2008 - 12:00 ET by Roger the ShrubberI agree.
Portrayals of people as monkeys should be the exclusive property of Left's caricature of the current president.
C'mon Rog. You know what
May 30, 2008 - 13:00 ET by balboaC'mon Rog. You know what I'm talking about.
»→ Yes, bal. We know
May 30, 2008 - 14:02 ET by Cool ArrowSo I can't call James Carville a refugee from Planet of The Apes anymore?
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I never said that.
May 30, 2008 - 14:22 ET by balboaI never said that.
Hey bal,
May 30, 2008 - 14:27 ET by RESTLESS 1You'll love this joke. What do you get when you cross a lousy politician with a lousy attorney?
Chelsea. :)
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
»→ Just clarifying bal
May 30, 2008 - 14:36 ET by Cool ArrowSo it's not racist to refer to another human being as an ape, but it is racist to refer to another human being as a monkey. Are you saying apes are fair comedic game and monkeys are not?
Yes, I'm being purposely obtuse. But it points out that you believe some human beings deserve a certain level of protection others don't.
It's that old condescending, patronizing show of Liberal superiority over minorities rearing its ugly head again.
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So I assume you have no
May 30, 2008 - 14:49 ET by balboaSo I assume you have no problem with ethnic or racial slurs of any kind.
Assumption is the harbinger
May 30, 2008 - 14:57 ET by FoolicanAssumption is the harbinger of mistake.
»→ You may not assume
May 30, 2008 - 14:57 ET by Cool ArrowYou may assume anything you wish, but assumption does not necessarily translate to truth.
I don't think it's right to refer to Obama as a monkey.
Now here's one for you.
Is it only racist if a Whitey does it? Are you willing to agree Obama's donations were racist in nature. Or are you going to continue along the Democrat path of patronizing condescension in this matter?
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»→ Bal. Crickets chirping
May 30, 2008 - 16:37 ET by Cool ArrowObviously bal is hoping if he ignores it, his hypocrisy won't show.
Chirp chirp.
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Dude, don't accuse me of
May 30, 2008 - 18:48 ET by balboaDude, don't accuse me of ignoring something. Can a guy step away from the computer for an afternoon? Is that OK with you?
What is this admittedly racist organization?
»→ TUCC bal
May 30, 2008 - 21:22 ET by Cool ArrowBut you knew that.
Of course you'd find some reason it's different on some level from the KKK, but it's not.
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How are they racist?
May 30, 2008 - 22:09 ET by balboaHow are they racist?
Sure I do. You have bought
May 30, 2008 - 16:32 ET by Roger the ShrubberSure I do. You have bought into this whole groupism/protected class bullsh*t that is bringing this country down. Obama is a microcism of this LIBERAL phenomenom: you cannot ask his religion, mention his middle name, etc, etc, etc...
It is "illegal" to mention hangings, simians of any type, any word that could somehow, even remotely, sound like the "N" word, etc... Somehow these all became exclusive "grievance catch phrases" of the black community?
Last week, I compared Jim Webb to Chaka of "Land of the Lost" fame. Where was the outcry? Oh, yeah, I remember now: Webb is an Irish white guy.
I'll ask you what I asked
May 30, 2008 - 18:50 ET by balboaI'll ask you what I asked CA: So ethnic and racial slurs are OK now?
Now that the Left keeps
May 30, 2008 - 19:46 ET by Roger the ShrubberNow that the Left keeps redefining what an ethnic/racial slur is, you are asking a trick question. The answer is we cannot be critical of ANYBODY, since every group now has their own special list of grievances, and you will surely piss off some group by ANYTHING you say.
Is that a yes or a no?
May 30, 2008 - 20:34 ET by balboaIs that a yes or a no?
He says the question is
May 30, 2008 - 22:53 ET by FoolicanHe says the question is loaded. See "fallacy of many questions" on Wikipedia.
OK, foolican, so what I'm
May 30, 2008 - 22:59 ET by balboaOK, foolican, so what I'm hearing is that comparing black people to monkeys is fine.
The picture of you...
May 30, 2008 - 11:31 ET by SyriusMofo,
...walking down the street in the middle of Harlem with an Obama '08 Curious George T-shirt would be awesome to see. The next picture would be even better as the crowd gathers around you to celebrate a child's birthday with you being the pinata!!! ROTFFLMFAO!!!
Yeah, it's not the 40's anymore...though it seems you'd like it to be where people know there place, correct?!?
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
Not at all. Unlike you, I
May 30, 2008 - 11:38 ET by mofosesameNot at all. Unlike you, I see only the person - - not the color of his skin.
Welcome
May 30, 2008 - 11:40 ET by sarcasmoStephen Colbert! Bravo!! I love it when comedy becomes reality!
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Unlike you, I see a need to support....
May 30, 2008 - 11:52 ET by SyriusMofo,
...those who have been disenfranchised by those like you who all of sudden are colorblind. Those like you who feel everyone is now equal in every opportunity that exists. Those like you who get bitter towards those who are smarter and achieve a better life. What's the excuse this time as you get passed up for the job you thought you had though you really weren't qualified at all and it goes to someone of color who was more qualified? Keep it to yourself and let it fester inside of you. I hope you wear the T-shirt proudly for everyone to see!
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
»→ Excellent points Syrius
May 30, 2008 - 12:04 ET by Cool Arrow"Those like you who feel everyone is now equal in every opportunity that exists."
So without the votes and support of condescendiong, patronizing bigots, it's not at all possible the highest office in the land could be filled by an African American.
How magnanimous of you to support an African American running for President. Not that he'd rather you support him because of his fitness for duty.
You're just dying to put an asterisk on Obama's Presidency, aren't you?
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ROFL - yup, you got me.
May 30, 2008 - 12:16 ET by mofosesameROFL - yup, you got me. LOL
»→ Mixing metaphors
May 30, 2008 - 11:42 ET by Cool ArrowReally cute Syrius.
So you're all in favor of lynchings when it's a White person getting hanged? Oh, God bless you Syrius, for your understanding of the inability of African Americans to respect the law.
I thought Sharpton's protests in New York and Philly would have convinced you differently. But I guess it's your right as An American to opine that African Americans are savages.
What makes you think African Americans are so prone to resort to lynching?
And "pinata"? Sorry, that doesn't quite fit the profile of how you claim African Americans act.
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Let me see...
May 30, 2008 - 12:12 ET by SyriusCoolA,
How do you really feel about Obama being the next President of the United States? Qualified? Smart? More than capable? I didn't get the latest code words from the radical right wing this morning on how to attack Obama. Could you send me the list? The only thing I saw was an ad shilling T-shirts for Obama '08 on a self-proclaimed conservative website. You're telling me the conservatives of this site are more likely to support Obama than McCain by buying the Obama T-shirt. Where is the Ad by the way???
Here's a link if you didn't get one yet...
http://www.chicagotr...
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
Response
May 30, 2008 - 12:22 ET by FoolicanPossibly smart - very good with words if he reads off a teleprompter. Certainly not politically qualified in any means whatsoever. His vacuum policies - e.g. 100% negotiation - would be counterproductive to both the national and financial security of the nation. Unlike some others, however, I don't launch unfounded personal attacks, and I certainly couldn't care less about the T-shirt.
What really gets me is his hostility towards other candidates and to other people. Obama's reference to the Philadelphians as "bitter" has already given him the air of an "elitist" in the eyes of the conservative moment. It's even more embarassing when he makes a gaff, as one of his stature would not be expected to. Here he becomes the "empty suit."
I don't buy the "voting for him cuz he's black" meme - trends have dictated an African-American affinity towards the Democrats for decades.
"I don't buy the "voting
May 30, 2008 - 12:33 ET by mofosesame"I don't buy the "voting for him cuz he's black" meme - trends have dictated an African-American affinity towards the Democrats for decades."
at the rate of 90% - it's because of his color
"I don't buy the "voting
May 30, 2008 - 17:59 ET by ckc1227"I don't buy the "voting for him cuz he's black" meme - trends have
dictated an African-American affinity towards the Democrats for decades."
Then why is the black democrat candidate getting 90% + of the black vote over the white democrat candidate, even though they are, for the most part, identical candidates?
Probably just a coincidence.
»→ Syriu7s
May 30, 2008 - 12:25 ET by Cool ArrowOther Candidates and Presidents have been as conniving as he, as racist as he, as clueless as he, as educated as he.
Of course he's fit to be President.
What I resent is the Guilt ridden White voters who openly preface their argument for Obama with a defense of his ethnicity.
It's a clear attempt to asterisk his Presidency with condescending, patronizing, plantation style kingmaking.
Thank ye kindly Big Daddy.
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Syrius, so black people are
May 30, 2008 - 14:30 ET by Blazer"...walking down the street in the middle of Harlem with an Obama '08 Curious George T-shirt would be awesome to see. The next picture would be even better as the crowd gathers around you to celebrate a child's birthday with you being the pinata!!! ROTFFLMFAO!!! "
Syrius, so black people are prone to violence , and are irrational and reactionary?
Racist.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Wait a minue Bal. According
May 30, 2008 - 20:00 ET by Gary P JacksonWait a minue Bal. According to liberals, there is no God, and WE ALL came from monkeys! Its called evolulution!
I saw the shirt, and though about the guy's big ears, not his race!
I mean Obama looks like a Checker cab goin' down the road with all four doors open.
You've got to be kidding!!!
May 30, 2008 - 11:07 ET by SyriusMofo,
Go right ahead and explain why anyone would try and sell a Curious George peeling a banana with Obama '08 underneath as anything more than racist. Come on, bud, explain it away...It's cute and just for kids?
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
»→ Right Syrius
May 30, 2008 - 11:13 ET by Cool ArrowWhy didn't you say so in the first place.
I guess I missed your hint because I've compared James Carville to a character from Planet of the Apes.
You gotta admit Carville lookes like an ape.
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Nah...
May 30, 2008 - 11:17 ET by sarcasmoPolitics may be full of simians these days, but Carville's "rattlesnake" all the way in my eyes.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
»→ Maybe sarc
May 30, 2008 - 11:23 ET by Cool ArrowHe could play the Grinch too, but Carville is definitely a large ape.
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"We're not living in the
May 30, 2008 - 11:16 ET by mofosesame"We're not living in the (19)40's," he said. "Look at him . . . the hairline, the ears -- he looks just like Curious George."
- Mike Norman, owner of Mulligan's Bar and Grill in Cobb County.
»→ mofo
May 30, 2008 - 11:21 ET by Cool ArrowNext stop, Syrius won't let us refer to Helen Thomas as Jabba the Hut.
But of course, he's never complained about Chimpy McHitler.
Seems to me if he has a problem with one characterization and not with the other, it's Syrius who is the racist.
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Monkey Obama You
May 30, 2008 - 11:28 ET by RESTLESS 1Monkey
Obama
You make the call.
I know, I know. I apologize.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Syrius, Honestly, you
May 30, 2008 - 13:04 ET by futbolisgreat1Syrius,
Honestly, you Liberals. You see racism every where when it suits your needs, but turn a blind eye to it when it doesn't suit your needs.
While you are all outraged about some idiot supposedly comparing Obama to Curious George....where was your outraged when President Bush is compared to an ape?
So, it is racist to compare Obama to an ape, but it is not racist to compare Bush to an ape.
I wonder who are the racisst...*cough, cough* LIBERALS!!
Well, what do you know the Ad is gone!!!
May 30, 2008 - 11:12 ET by SyriusThanks to the powers that be...I guess they thought the same as I did. Thanks for playing.
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
»→ Really Syrius?
May 30, 2008 - 11:14 ET by Cool ArrowIt's still on my screen.
So you admit you were just playing. I get it.
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I find it alarming!
May 30, 2008 - 11:23 ET by SyriusCoolA,
I don't have it on my screen. I noticed when I posted the first message it took a little bit more time to load...then...poof...the ad was gone...I'm sure I can put you down on the list that supports the T-shirt, correct?
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
»→ No Syrius
May 30, 2008 - 11:30 ET by Cool ArrowYou can't. I have not sent money for the T Shirt, nor will I. I recognize financial support as an extremely definitive form of speech. That is why it is completely true that Barack Obama absolutely hates White people. He donated $27,500 to an admittedly racist organization last year.
Obama's hatred of Whitey is therefore a matter of public record, unless you will concede a White candidate's financial support of the KKK is acceptable as well.
And no, I'm not playing.
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Let's not get uppity.
May 30, 2008 - 11:38 ET by SyriusCoolDown,
I'm sure you're not a racist. I'm just wondering why you didn't notice it. I guess being a conservative means not adhering to common decency, political correctiveness and the understanding some things could be viewed as insensitive to others.
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
»→ Uppity
May 30, 2008 - 11:45 ET by Cool ArrowI recognize the racist overtones of your use of the word "uppity".
Now you're all the way over in the Lester Maddox/George Wallace/Robert Byrd wing of your Party. And Yes, they are/were all Democrats.
True son of the War between the States, aren't you.
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Syrius
May 30, 2008 - 11:49 ET by RESTLESS 1"political correctiveness"
Freudian slip? We know how you libs love to control everone else's behavior.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
»→ RESTLESS
May 30, 2008 - 12:08 ET by Cool ArrowYou notice when I offered concrete evidence of Obama's hatred of Whites (financial support for a racist org) Syrius immediately called me "uppity", a racially charged word the Dems can't quite forget.
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At least you didn't call me...
May 30, 2008 - 12:18 ET by SyriusCoolA,
...shiftless!
How do you really feel, Cool Arrow? Hated for your views? Not allowed to speak your mind? Go ahead, let it out. It's not good to let it fester inside of you like a zit ready to explode! Let it out! Squeeze it! Pop it! You'll feel better.
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
»→ Right Syrius
May 30, 2008 - 12:31 ET by Cool ArrowIt's America. You can be a fistula and a pustule at the same time if you like, and I have no right to lance you against your will.
But I'd get that sphincter rerouted quck if I were you.
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Syrius, What Liberals
May 30, 2008 - 13:16 ET by futbolisgreat1Syrius,
What Liberals like you fail to see is that Obama, Rev. Wright, Mrs. Obama, Mr. Ayers, etc, etc are the real racist.
Living in Chicago and attending UIC (Mr. Ayers place of employment) I had the opportunity (Sadly enough) to run into Mr. Ayers rants. He is one scary, racist, hater of white people (self-loathing fool).
Obama is a racist pig too. I could careless about the color of his skin, but his domestic and foreign policies terrify me. Furthermore, he has ZERO foreign experience. Hmmm...I remember when the Liberals railed against Gov. Bush when he threw his hat in the ring for the Presidency because he had no foreign experience. Care to explain how it is now ok for Obama to have zero foreign experience, but it was not for Bush?
While you are it, care to explain how Barack Obama stayed for 20 years at a "Christian" Church with such racist Rev. as Wright? Not only was Rev. Wright his pastor, but as Obama has admitted in his book, Rev. Wright was his mentor and close friend. Now we are suppose to believe that Obama didn't know that Rev. Wright was a racist? Only those that consider Obama a messiah are blind enough to fall for Obama's "charm", lies and ridiculous line of Hope and Change.
I find it pathetic, ridiculous, moronic, and race baiting for individuals like you to claim that Republicans don't like Obama because he is black. Don't be so shallow Syrius. It never ceases to amaze me how Liberals see racism everywhere.
Do you know why you Liberals see racism everywhere? Because you know deep inside of you, that it is YOU Liberals who are the racists.
Cool,
May 30, 2008 - 12:30 ET by RESTLESS 1Dems just can't forget their racist ways. It goes way back, and is part of their makeup. Don't ever challenge their superiority, or you too may be seen as "uppity".
(BTW, I thought sy was all about pc.).
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
»→ Don't know Syrius
May 30, 2008 - 11:03 ET by Cool ArrowI find it equally as offensive as George Bush as "Chimpy McHitler" don't you?
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
I have never seen the ad
May 30, 2008 - 12:22 ET by BDI have never seen the ad supposedly linking a chimp with Obama.
The only advertising I have seen shows young women wearing t-shirts.
Regardless - What I find offensive is the legion of young idiots wearing shirts that glorify Che Guevara and Lenin. THOSE are offensive to those who know history.
I haven't seen it on my
May 30, 2008 - 12:34 ET by RESTLESS 1I haven't seen it on my screen either. Thank goodness the t-shirt ads show up though. :)
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
BD, EXACTLY!!!! Here is
May 30, 2008 - 13:22 ET by futbolisgreat1BD,
EXACTLY!!!! Here is Syrius crying about an ad, which I haven't seen either...yet, it is his party members that have zero problem wearing shirts, hats, etc with pictures of Che, et al. I guess Liberals don't mind depicting as heros individuals who believe in an political and economic ideology which has murdered 100s of millions of human beings.
and the Liberals greatest hypocrisy with this issue about curious George and Obama is that they had no problem comparing Bush to an ape....but OMG! careful if you compare their messiah to an ape. How patheticly hypocritical of them.
Syrius, why the selective outrage?
I assume that Syrius will
May 30, 2008 - 13:40 ET by BDI assume that Syrius will say that the potential racist statement made by the T-Shirt is significantly worse than the Classist statement made by the Che/Lenin/Mao Shirt.
In other words, it is fine to line up people and execute them because they come from the bourgeoisie (you know, those who can afford to wear glasses.) But do not make fun of someone from another race, that is Un-PC.
»→ Syrius
May 30, 2008 - 13:56 ET by Cool ArrowHe's just doing his "Great White Benevolent Father" routine to show how condescendingly patronizingly paternalistic he can be in support of those he sees as beneath him.
Note how pityingly he refers to African Americans. It's as though Syrius wants to be somehow magnanimous in granting the gift of pride to African Americans.
It's really sad that he can't see people as well . . people.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Confused???
May 30, 2008 - 11:43 ET by LionKingI thought liberals loved EVOLUTION. What's wrong with comparing Obama to his cousin?
I'm serious, syrius
May 30, 2008 - 14:50 ET by kilrodI've been layin for ya to use that little self- fullfillin prophesy you use to sighn off with sy. You have renamed an unborn child a fetus, an embryo, a zygote, and by erasin the humanity of an unborn child you and yours have slaughtered 50,000,000 human beins and yes you have devalued the sanctity of human life. Hitler decided Jews were'nt human and he only managed to kill about 6,000,000, the blacks were slaves for several centuries and they were used and abused, and killed because they were classified as property, but thats not even close to what you and the Nazi-Libs, and the liberal socialist dimocrats have done, you best remember that what goes around comes around, and "you peoples" turn in the barrel is comin, for you have fullfilled that little nugget of wisdom you use so carelessly. Think About It.!!!
(GRINS)
kilrod
Ah shucks...
May 30, 2008 - 19:06 ET by Syriuskilrod,
It's zygote to an embryo to a fetus to when born a child, not unborn child. That just doesn't make sense.
From your edumacated response, I can only fathom what kind of leaded paint you ingested when you were young. "you peoples"?
:)......
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
I'm still serious syriou
May 30, 2008 - 21:31 ET by kilrodSay what you want you stupid son of a bitch, if i get a chance in person i will stomp your ass'!!!
(GRINS)
KILROD