For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: McCain's age and health:
Three-time melanoma survivor John McCain appears cancer-free, has a strong heart and is in otherwise general good health, according to eight years of medical records reviewed by The Associated Press...But Mayo internist Dr. John Eckstein, his longtime personal physician, lauded McCain's performance on a heart stress test - sweating it out for 10 minutes when Eckstein routinely sees patients decades younger quit at five or seven minutes. "I think physiologically he is considerably younger than his chronologic age based on his cardiovascular fitness," Eckstein said in an interview Thursday. "I got a call from the cardiologist who said that he had not seen anyone that age exercise for that long in a long time."
How much focus will Obama-loving media give this report? Will age be a factor in this election, or will Americans not buy into the press's hysteria?
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Well, it's at least good to
May 23, 2008 - 09:49 ET by motherbeltWell, it's at least good to know that they won't be able to use his health against him.
The MSM will cover it because they have to. But I wouldn't be surprised to see them use it as a segue to Obama's youth and athleticism; managing to mention that GQ listed him in their "25 fittest people in America" list. (just to provide "balanced coverage" you know).
Why the word "Appears"
May 23, 2008 - 10:03 ET by pearlWhy say "Appears Cancer Free" in the headlines? Dont they believe it? All liberal media say this. Its a smear job.
If it was Obama, they would say:
don't forget
May 24, 2008 - 05:09 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsIf it was Obama, they would say:
And don't forget:
D
Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.
Flying pig alert
May 23, 2008 - 10:01 ET by Prester JohnA couple of days late but I must give credit when to the Washington Post. Two days ago on the front page it actually ran a relatively positive report on the Iraqi security forces moving in to Sadr City:
Iraqi Troops Welcomed In Sadr City
BAGHDAD, May 21 -- Iraqi soldiers moved unhindered through Baghdad's vast Sadr City district on Wednesday as Shiite militiamen who have long controlled the area faded from view and schools and businesses began to reopen after weeks of strife.
The Shiite-led government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is pursuing an increasingly successful effort to contain the militias of his Shiite rivals and to exercise authority over areas where Iraqi forces were once unwelcome. The strategy has won Maliki admiration from Sunni politicians and from U.S. and British officials, who credit him with exerting some of the political will necessary to achieve reconciliation.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/21/AR2008052103056.html
Great News!
May 23, 2008 - 10:09 ET by SyriusPresterJ,
I read the same Wash. Post article. My next thought after reading it-
Let's get the hell out of Iraq!
The Iraqis have welcomed their own Army as liberators!
See ya, Iraq, it's been fun!
Time to get Bin Laden!
Syrius
And the first time your
May 23, 2008 - 10:22 ET by Dan The Man 2And the first time your children start to walk you abandon them. Let them wander into teh street willi nilly. What a good and loving and resposible parent you are.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Parent?!?
May 23, 2008 - 11:19 ET by SyriusD-man,
If you want to use the parent/child analogy, I aborted the case for war against Iraq a long time ago...and have always focused on the neglected child in Afghanistan.(sarc on)
Syrius
Perfect "aborted the case
May 23, 2008 - 13:41 ET by Dan The Man 2Perfect "aborted the case for war against Iraq a long time ago...and have always focused on the neglected child in Afghanistan" because aborting a child is neglecting parental duties and in fact you cant be a parent of an aboted child. The child in Afghanuistan is not being neglected as if you actually had children you would know each child has different needs. Afghanistan is totally different and furthermore is being taken care of by NATO. My brother is there at the moment fighting the good fight. If you really cared you would do more research, but knowing your nature I guess not.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Thanks for the correction...
May 23, 2008 - 14:47 ET by SyriusDan,
You were so correct, I made the mistake of saying aborted child when I should have said fetus and even that is a poor analogy to the bad analogy of yours. I should have realized it was a bad analogy from the beginning when you brought it up. How about this...I guess we didn't realize the Iraq war was another child on the way. It's too bad it was conceived in another mother...entirely unrelated to the first since the test tube was mixed up...and Bush is bound to say it's not his baby but the Democrats.(sarc on)
As for your brother and my family members and friends, I wish them only the best and a safe return from the good fight.
Syrius
PS When should I stop going home to my kids since you said I don't have any?
When they leave the coup.
May 23, 2008 - 15:21 ET by Dan The Man 2When they leave the coup. We should also not leave Iraq until the kids have jobs and able to support themselves. Hell Germany and Japan and Korea have not flown the coup yet. Iraq is a good thing in a military strategic view of the world. Remember teh Turkey flap and Pakistan is none too happy about us having flyover and staging priviliges. Iraq is a good base of operations in that part of teh world. We have Iran between a rock and a hard place, two fronts.
My remark about kids was meant to say that each instance and country has its own approach. We take a different tact with the UK tahn with Syria or Iran. I apologize if I offened you.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Your support is appreciated
May 23, 2008 - 16:59 ET by UnsaneI'll be sure to call and e-mail some friends of mine in Kabul and other places in Central Asia and let them know that we really aren't doing anything in Afghanistan. They'll be happy to hear that I am sure.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Syrius is from the liberal faction who thinks Iraq is a great
May 23, 2008 - 10:26 ET by Dee BunkSuccess story but still hates Bush and wants to elect Obama who thinks we never should have gone.
What a joke. These liberals are all over the place. They have no cogent theories or arguments, only love for Celebrities and cool hip people who possess no logic or practicality. But hey, they are talented and fun so their theories must be good enough to rule the world!. These people have no personal or societal values. Everything they believe fits into what is cool and popular and endorsed by Hollywood, rock stars and other celebrities.
Don't assume...
May 23, 2008 - 11:24 ET by SyriusDee,
Search through the threads...what will you find? Enlighten yourself, Dee.
I've been pretty consistent on who I support...get back to me once you've found it.
Search for the statements with "Godspeed"...
Syrius
No thanks Syrius - I'll pass on that great offer
May 23, 2008 - 13:26 ET by Dee BunkI've seen enough of your nonsense to know that you don't support Republicans.
Your past nonsense doesn't matter anyway. I'm commenting on your current nonsensical statement.
Not Republicans
May 23, 2008 - 13:34 ET by sarcasmoBut a RINO.
I think his McCain support makes sense, but I'm sure it greatly upsets other McCain supporters (especially the ones of you who were dishonest enough to try to tie Ron Paul to Dennis Kucinich -- as ye sowed, so have ye reaped!!). I find it hilarious, and fitting...
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
I agree sarc - any Dem can support McCain because he is a Dem
May 23, 2008 - 14:57 ET by Dee BunkIt doesn't make sense for a Dem who thinks we need to scurry out of Iraq though.
Like we were talking about - people support people without even knowing their issues. Everything Syrius says on anything indicates he should be voting for Obama. Who can make sense of it?
One thing for certain, he buys into the Hollywood leftist drivel. All of us Conservatives and libertarians have already lost. The next ones too lose will be the conservative and moderate Democrats when Obama becomes President.
Dee, my dear...
May 23, 2008 - 14:57 ET by SyriusDee,
All you had to do was read below...I tried to make it obvious. If you were to go back a few weeks or from the beginning of when I joined you will find consistent support with my continual use of "Godspeed, John, Godspeed!". It's the truth. I may not agree with some of the things he says sometimes. All he needs is the White House, once there he'll be able to do what he wants...which scares the heck out of most of his non-supporters in the conservative wing. We'll just have to hope for change...unless you want Obama?
Syrius
Syrius - I don't have time to keep track of my own posts
May 23, 2008 - 15:05 ET by Dee Bunklet alone someone else's. Every conversation I've had with you, you disagree with me and appear to be a full fledge leftist. I guess that means you are hoping that McCain doing what he wants entails moving even further left.
I would be hoping that he moved right once he had the power and didn't need the media to get it. Unfortunately though I think he will still play the media game because he'll want a second term (if by some miracle he were able to get a first term).
Dee
May 23, 2008 - 14:15 ET by okiehawk44Dee wrote about liberals "...they are talented and fun so their theories must be good enough to rule the world!."
I agree with Dee regarding liberals and I remind liberals that they have been the ones whose policies have caused the current problems with gas prices. You rule libs -- you control education, media, politics, judiciary -- and you are the ones I hold responsible for the complete mess you have made of things. It's you! It's you! It's you! -- got it?
very true okiehawk
May 23, 2008 - 15:20 ET by Dee BunkIraq would be going much better if they wouldn't have given so much encouragement to the terrorists also.
Gas prices would be better if we had built some refineries and drilled here (refineries being the bigger problem). The dems also block any new Nuclear power that could also have an impact. Then you add in the exorbitant taxes and the ethanol debacle and it's no wonder. In the short time that Republicans had total control of congress, Dems had enough to filibuster and a media to demonize and put fear into Republicans who didn't go their way.
Gas prices were going up no matter what due to increased demand from India and China. No President or Congress can do anything about that. They could have been mitigated some by letting businesses do things to take care of their increased demand but the Dems blocked them at every step. Now they want to demonize them for their profits which don't even equal the profits that the Government already makes from them.
Here we go again Syrius
May 23, 2008 - 16:57 ET by UnsaneAgain, you have pissed on my deployment there and wonder why I think you insincere.
I know, we have to focus and concentrate every ounce of our energy in finding one litle pissant. Because as we ALL know, It Will Solve Everything once we capture/kill bin Laden. Hell, the WTC towers will immediately reconstruct themselves once he is captured I am sure!
We didn't pull up stakes and abandon Western Europe to capture Abu Nidal and we shouldn't pull out of Iraq just because of a perceived need to capture ONE MAN and because you are deeply embarrassed and ashamed of the United States' ability to project power around the world.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Godspeed, John McCain, Godspeed!
May 23, 2008 - 10:01 ET by SyriusI wish him years of good health.
He should avoid a pick up game with Obama.
He should try to get Obama to bowl again!
LOL!
Syrius
Sarah Palin can beat Obama in hoops
May 23, 2008 - 10:05 ET by pearlIf he picked Sarah Palin for VP, she can beat Obama in basketball.
Besides sports and games...
May 23, 2008 - 10:13 ET by SyriusWe can only hope McCain beats Obama when it counts. The election!
Syrius
A little local news from my
May 23, 2008 - 10:06 ET by taterA little local news from my area (but still irritates me as I worked at a cemetery as a summer job) but several American flags were stolen off the graves of veterans in one of the small towns around here. I can't imagine why people do this sort of things to
a) dead people
b) veterans and
c) the American flag.
Hopefully they find the jerks that did this.
"They need to have a course in college called common sense and everyone should take it. Problem is there isn't too many people that could pass or teach it." -my grandfather
Maxine Waters wants to "socialize" oil industry
May 23, 2008 - 10:25 ET by motherbeltHow much coverage of this can we expect?
After Shell Oil CEO says prices will continue to rise if they can't explore for new sources to increase supply, Maxine Waters threatens nationalization she stumbles, calls it "socializing") of the oil industry. "....this member will be all about ....taking over" and "the government running all of your companies!" (emphasis added)...
Video here
Maxine Waters is a moron.
May 23, 2008 - 10:25 ET by bassndudeMaxine Waters is a moron. What on earth makes her think the goverment can run anything? We could see the price of gas in this country shoot up another 200 percent over night!
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
»→ bassndude
May 23, 2008 - 14:46 ET by Cool ArrowMaxine Waters wants you to know she is not not, nor has she ever been a Moron. She does not believe in polygamy.
So there.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Maxine Waters
May 23, 2008 - 13:48 ET by okiehawk44Normally members of congress tread lightly on certain issues because their constituents might lose their jobs, this is not the case with Maxine Waters because it does not apply to her constituency.
Maxine would be really concerned if any of her family or friends worked...in the oil industry I mean.
Maxine Klingon
May 23, 2008 - 14:09 ET by Cool ArrowThat was one of the funniest spectacles I've seen.
Scary though that she's just too stupid to keep her mouth shut about what the Dems connive behind closed doors.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
You're right, CA....I don't
May 23, 2008 - 15:03 ET by motherbeltYou're right, CA....I don't think that was meant to be spoken of publicly.
I also loved how she said "socialize"....and then stopped, realizing she'd stepped in it, and couldn't quite get back on track and find a better word....
»→ Maxine Waters
May 23, 2008 - 15:08 ET by Cool ArrowThen she finally settled on "take over".
Robert Byrd must be rolling over in his uh . . . sheets.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Shame! Shame! Shame!
May 23, 2008 - 22:11 ET by Roger the ShrubberShame!
Shame!
Shame!
Keith Olberman
May 23, 2008 - 10:14 ET by inquiringmindDoes Keith remind anyone else of the TV reporter from the first Die Hard movie, Richard Thornburg?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0040472/
So much for Global
May 23, 2008 - 11:09 ET by BDSo much for Global warming. It is snowing here in the mountains of Cochise County Arizona.
Previously the past record for late snowfall in local memory was APRIL.
In May we are normally in the high 90's.
Gotta be global CLIMATE CHANGE, right? If so, bring it on.
global
May 23, 2008 - 11:41 ET by TruthMongerglobal warming/cooling/climate-change/whatever...
please send massive check or M.O. as well as any and all awards to:
dr. al gore, honorary minion emeritus
att: Why? WHY THE HELL NOT?!
B.S. Box 666
Hell, Bowels of the Earth 00002
That's CNN's Word
May 23, 2008 - 11:21 ET by Caringwhiteguy"Appears" is exactly the word CNN used in its graphic this morning. Dr. Sanjay Gupta was the reporter. Just another subtle dirty trick from Senator McCain's "pals" in MSM.
They have to say "appears."
May 23, 2008 - 11:43 ET by motherbeltThey have to say "appears." That means they can find no trace. They can't be absolutely certain; that's why they can't say "he is cancer-free.
And the sun . . .
May 23, 2008 - 12:50 ET by Caringwhiteguy. . . . appears to have risen in the east again this morning. But some aren't absolutely certain about that.
»→ How can this be caringwhiteguy
May 23, 2008 - 12:52 ET by Cool ArrowEveryone knows the Hawaiian Islands are in the Atlantic Ocean.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
and Ted Kennedy
May 23, 2008 - 12:57 ET by Caringwhiteguy"appears" to HAVE cancer.
Memorial Day
May 23, 2008 - 11:28 ET by ricklailAs you go about your business this weekend take a moment at least to remember those that gave the utilmate sacrifice for this glorious country. Every year I try to attend the services at the National Cemetary in New Bern. I go early to walk among the graves and read the names. I would love to hear their stories but I can't.
As I sit here writing this my eyes start to tear up when I think about the WALL. I have several good friends and relatives that are listed there. Even after close to 40 years it is still hard to think about it. RIP: Dale, Bobby, Reggie, Paul Jr., Gerry and the other 55,000 plus.
If you are on I-85 in NC between Lexington and Thomasville, stop at the rest stop and visit the NC Vietnam Memorial.
“A debate is a conflict which clarifies a position. A dialogue is a conversation which compromises a position.” –John E. Ashbrook, The New Neutralism II, P. 7
A couple of years ago, a
May 23, 2008 - 11:45 ET by motherbeltA couple of years ago, a Congressman proposed moving Memorial Day back to May 30 instead of this Monday thing, because it had lost its meaning and become just another 3-day weekend.
I'm sure we have all heard people say "Happy Memorial Day!" beceause they consider it a "holiday" rather than an "observance."
It is a Federal Holiday.
May 23, 2008 - 12:58 ET by SyriusMB,
We should observe it respectfully no matter what calender day it happens to be. For a little history...
http://en.wikipedia....
Syrius
Of course we should, Syrius.
May 23, 2008 - 15:06 ET by motherbeltOf course we should. That's the whole point. People have lost sight of the traditional observance, respect and remembrance of those who have died in service to their country. Now it's just another 3-day weekend to most.
TV Host Fired
May 23, 2008 - 12:16 ET by JDWNBC5i: A Boston television host who launched a public campaign against Fox commentator Bill O'Reilly was fired by the Comcast Network Wednesday.
..."He's delusional," Nolan said of O'Reilly. "He's a man that mangles the facts. He inflates and constantly mangles the truth, and his frequent target is the 'left-leaning' media -- the ones who do report the news fairly," Nolan wrote. ...
Media v. FOX
JDW
If you mention ANWR it means you don't care about the environment but when congress says ANWR it means you don't care about the gasoline prices
Democrats, liberals, and
May 23, 2008 - 12:54 ET by Jack BauerDemocrats, liberals, and enviromental cases, oppose off-shore drilling because the Oil Derricks...
spoil the pristine view.. unlike massive windfarms, of course. Except if you're Teddy Kennedy, of course.
* I really should copyright that!
Watch out! Climate Change
May 23, 2008 - 13:59 ET by RJWallWatch out! Climate Change is now affecting Jupiter!
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080523.html
Evil humans are destroying the entire solar system!
Thanks for posting
May 23, 2008 - 14:38 ET by radiofitz34Thanks for posting something on Global (?) Warming RJ. I start getting itchy in here when there's no AGW stories. I guess Noel is sometimes shocked if he doesn't see my comments about an AGW blog. So I've missed one or two.
I can be evil too...like planting songs in people's heads. Like for instance, The Rain, The Park and Other Things from The Cowsills. You know, flowers in her hair and all that.
Ya know sometimes I feel like I'm just taking up space here at NB. lol
Political Correctness Is a Progressive Disease
If you look real close at
May 23, 2008 - 22:07 ET by Roger the ShrubberIf you look real close at that photo, I swear you can see Dennis Quaid trudging through the snow, trying to reach the Brokeback Mountain kid...
Daddy's Home!!!
May 23, 2008 - 15:05 ET by acumenTear-jerker video from FOX News via Patdollard.com.
This really puts a personal touch on our military and their families that sacrifice so much for all of us. Wouldn't it be great to see a lot more of this on other media outlets besides FOX?
Happy Memorial Day!!!
That was great!!
May 23, 2008 - 15:17 ET by motherbeltThat was great!!
I also checked out a couple of other posts there, including this one that says Obama is Insane.....we need to remember this when he tries to backtrack and say that's not what he meant.
He proposed "direct diplomacy with friend and foe alike....without pre-conditions."
I wonder if that includes Osama bin Laden?
DEM SENATE Tries to Pass another Fingerprint Database
May 23, 2008 - 16:29 ET by BritcomWatch out! The hypocritical Dems are trying to invade your privacy again!!
This time it would be for anyone (of course this includes people who have not been found guilty of any crime) who works in the Real Estate Loan business.
The fingerprints would be given to the FBI.
My question is, for what legitimate purpose?
Source: OpenMarket.org
h/t Drudge
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Communist vs. Statist '08
Q. Is Panamanian born John McCain a "Natural Born Citizen"
Media lied, Nobody died
May 23, 2008 - 18:46 ET by acumenFrom Cybercast New Service
Critic Who Questioned Shooting of Palestinian Boy Vindicated by French Court
By Eva Cahen
CNSNews.com Correspondent
May 23, 2008
Highlights -- A Paris appeals court has overturned the libel verdict against a French media critic who claimed that French state television aired a fraudulent news report showing the alleged shooting of a Palestinian boy by Israeli soldiers in 2000.
Philippe Karsenty, who was found guilty of libel in 2006 for claiming that French TV faked the footage, hailed Thursday's court ruling as a significant victory.
France 2's images of 12-year-old Mohammed al-Dura, allegedly shot during a gun battle between Israeli soldiers and Palestinian gunmen at Gaza's Netzarim junction, became a symbol of the second Palestinian intifada (uprising).
The network has denied the footage was fraudulent and has defended its correspondent, Charles Enderlin, who was not present during the alleged incident but provided commentary over the images shot by his Palestinian cameraman.
Speaking after the court decision, he (Karsenty) called the outcome "the victory of truth over lies. It's the victory of honesty over intellectual dishonesty. It's the victory of French justice over corporatism and the media mafia."
I humbly offer this for the
May 23, 2008 - 18:48 ET by RESTLESS 1I humbly offer this for the perusal of my fellow NB'ers. I personally don't think it goes far enough, but perhaps it is a start?
I think...
May 24, 2008 - 02:35 ET by Britcomthe FairTax is a better idea.
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Communist vs. Statist '08
Q. Is Panamanian born John McCain a "Natural Born Citizen"
The Unfair Tax
June 19, 2008 - 08:21 ET by UnsaneHint: when you have to call your tax proposal "fair", there is about a 100% chance that it isn't.
Let's see here: the most regressive form of taxation there is, hitting me at 30-31% on everything I buy (I include TX sales tax), and slitting the throat of the largest component of GDP...
Um, no thanks.
(And if you think that the enforcement of such a tax is going to be oh so super-nice and consist of the mailing of, say, Valentine's Day cards to violators...you have another thing coming.)
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
There's no defense for an Income Tax. It drives wealth off shore
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Communist vs. Statist '08
Q. Is Panamanian born John McCain a "Natural Born Citizen"
Fourth Right Foot Found Off Canada's Coast
May 23, 2008 - 23:28 ET by Britcom---
Communist vs. Statist '08
Q. Is Panamanian born John McCain a "Natural Born Citizen"
Brit..well geeze...what's
May 23, 2008 - 23:41 ET by bigtimerBrit..well geeze...what's with the violent plane crash insinuation and such...this is weird...the story didn't say much at all.
Keep me informed when you can as I am very much a true crime type of person...PM me if more info comes later.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
»→ Totally scary, Brit
May 23, 2008 - 23:45 ET by Cool ArrowI wouldn't stand for it.
»→ Mystery solved
May 23, 2008 - 23:47 ET by Cool ArrowMaybe they're stumping for Obama.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Yeah cool they put their
May 23, 2008 - 23:50 ET by bigtimerYeah cool they put their best foot forward...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
»→ Two are identified
May 24, 2008 - 00:00 ET by Cool ArrowOne was named Eileen, and another Irene.
Matt, Bob, Bill, and Frank were unavailable for comment.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
LOL Cool... No one else
May 24, 2008 - 00:04 ET by bigtimerLOL Cool...
No one else could fill those shoes...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
More feet, still no explanation
May 24, 2008 - 01:49 ET by BritcomI read this story some time ago when there were only two feet found, I thought give them a little time and they will uncover the answer, or at least a plausible theory. Apparently my optimism was misplaced. They treat the story as though the feet never had live owners. It is as if people in Canada routinely shed their feet every year after the rutting season.
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Communist vs. Statist '08
Q. Is Panamanian born John McCain a "Natural Born Citizen"
Now we're up to five feet
June 18, 2008 - 16:35 ET by BritcomFifth human foot washes up in Canada, baffling police
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Q. Is Panamanian born John McCain a "Natural Born Citizen"
this Memorial Day
May 23, 2008 - 23:31 ET by botgtake time to remember
Support our Troops
African Math
May 24, 2008 - 01:36 ET by BritcomSource: The American Spectator
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Communist vs. Statist '08
Q. Is Panamanian born John McCain a "Natural Born Citizen"
Cool
May 24, 2008 - 02:24 ET by jefflebowskiYou can certainly do better than that!