For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: D-Day for Clinton and Obama.
- Who will take Ohio and Texas today, and by how much?
- What will the delegate count be at the end of the evening?
- According to WaPo, "A new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds that should she win one of these two states, 67 percent of Democrats said she should continue her candidacy. And even if she were to lose both, a sizable 45 percent said she should soldier on."
- Regardless of what happens, will she fight on through Pennsylvania thereby extending this battle for at least another six weeks? Or, will she do what is in the best interest of her party, and drop out if she doesn't win big today?
Comments Policy
Hillary circles the drain and glugs
March 4, 2008 - 11:00 ET by Mica the MagnificentHillary will lose Ohio and Texas and will immediately unleash the Clinton Industrial Complex to have the delgates from Florida count. (Can't have disinfranchised voters, you see, even though the voters knew the DNC would not count their delegates.)
Neal Boortz (sp?) was saying
March 4, 2008 - 11:13 ET by Chris NormanNeal Boortz (sp?) was saying yesterday that there's a move afoot, which the FL governor says he'll support, to re-run the FL Democratic primary. Anyone else heard about this?
Chris
March 4, 2008 - 11:17 ET by namronI have heard this too. Howard Dean followed up by saying if FLA dems poneyed up the cash for the rerun he wouldn't oppose it and it might be a good idea.
The Dem party paying for it
March 4, 2008 - 11:24 ET by Chris NormanThe Dem party paying for it was not mentioned by Boortz. He was railing that the taxpayers would pay for it. Still, it'd be a hoot if they did it again and Hillary lost - even though I'm more scared of Obama than her.
Yes, Chris
March 4, 2008 - 12:52 ET by BlondeOur RINO Governor, Charlie Crist, while being interviewed the other day, said he'd consider a do-over for the democrats. It had better not be at my expense.
BTW, the is the same Gov. Crist, who along with that RINO senator of ours, Mel Martinez, is being named as a suitable running mate for John McCain.
Arghhhh.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Oh, he'd NEVER make it at our expense
March 4, 2008 - 12:55 ET by sarcasmoAfter all, this is the same "fiscally conservative" governor who has turned Florida's next decent-size hurricane (and we never have those!) into a guaranteed tax increase in what was perhaps the most socialistic piece of FL legislation ever-passed in my lifetime...
JMR
A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.
I heard this AM on Joe
March 4, 2008 - 13:15 ET by motherbeltI heard this AM on Joe Scarborough that they may actually redo Florida AND Michigan. Joe was commenting on the irony that they wanted to have early primaries to have an effect, but the DNC said no, and because they did it they would have no effect. Now, they may redo them and have more effect than they ever thought.
What I don't understand is why they don't just do all the primaries. Why all the pressure to pull out on both sides? If they are going to have a primary season, then they should let all the states have their primaries. Jeez, the PA primary isn't even till next month...why even bother? If they're going to go for this "earyl selection" of the candidate, then they need to condense it so that all the states can have their primaries.
I'm so sick of all this "projection" of winners...McCain didn't have enough delegates for the nomination when Romney gave in to pressure and dropped out..a lot of it was projection.....this is just nuts.
There has to be a better way, because, in the immortal words of Bart Simpson.. "I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks AND blows!"
The real FL irony
March 4, 2008 - 13:18 ET by sarcasmoIn the case of both the Democrats & the Republicans, is that if the state had ignored "experts" and had our primary on the ordinary schedule, Florida voters' votes would have been MORE "relevant."
JMR
A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.
This is hilarious. Florida
March 4, 2008 - 12:35 ET by Hero SquadThis is hilarious. Florida is a key state in the election, yet the Dems will freely disregard their opinion in the process as "punishment."
While in one regard I'm hoping that Clinton has no choice but to bow out on Wednesday (since my neighbor hung up a Hillary sign in his front yard yesterday), in another, more practical regard, I want fisticuffs at the convention.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Keep slugging
March 4, 2008 - 11:09 ET by KC MulvilleNo shame to admit, I want them to keep beating each other. I want Hillary to break through the celestial choir (sorry, the press corps - LOL) and get Obama to answer some tough questions ... because I think he's a balloon ready to pop.
And based on this story about Obama's surprise at being challenged, it may come sooner then I thought.
But I think that one poll result is interesting: there's a large bloc out there that wants Hillary to keep going. That's her base, for sure, and it looks like they're much more resilient than the media gives them credit for. In the general election, it may mean nothing, but it's something to consider ... maybe Hillary's supporters really don't like Obama all that much.
Oh, so looking forward to
March 4, 2008 - 11:26 ET by dscottOh, so looking forward to Clinton staying in the race. We need only sit back and enjoy while poking now and then to encourage Clinton in her vicious mode. Clinton has only two modes, 1. smiling while figuring out how to destroy her opponents (the classic embrace with Obama at the debates) and 2. smiling while thrusting in the knife and twisting.
She hasn't come all this way to give up now. In her world view there are only winners and losers, if she isn't winning that means she is losing. For the Clintons, Obama can not be simply beaten with votes, the win must be decisive, he must be crushed and discredited otherwise there will be questions, inconvenient questions as to their legitimacy.
Obama has his job cut out for him, Clinton is starting to gain traction via her MSM operatives, at this point if his allies in the MSM don't start airing stories of Clinton issues like Hsu's money bundling, Obama will be burried in an avalanche of dirt, let the mud flinging begin!
Lord Sidious / Darth Vader 2008 Long Live the Empire! Come to the Dark Side, it is your Destiny.
I want Hillary to break
March 4, 2008 - 13:22 ET by motherbeltI want Hillary to break through the celestial choir (sorry, the press
corps - LOL) and get Obama to answer some tough questions ... because I
think he's a balloon ready to pop.
You're right, KC, she's the only one that can go after him. Hopefully she can soften him up a little for McCain. He is about a mile wide and an inch deep. They need to pressure him. I don't believe he has the wherewithall to withstand tough questioning when people don't just swoon when he says people want something different.
A good place to start would be with this Rezko deal. Interviewers ask him about it, and he says "well that's been going on for a year and a half now.' And they just let it go.
AAARRRRRGGGGH!
After watching him give his
March 4, 2008 - 11:11 ET by Chris NormanAfter watching him give his common sense opinions on "global warming", political corectness, and other subjects last night on Glenn Beck, all I can say is:
Czech Republic President Václav Klaus for President of the United States!
We must have hit the post
March 4, 2008 - 11:14 ET by ricklailWe must have hit the post button at the same time. I was highly impressed with President Klaus. The comment about the propaganda stuck out most in my feeble mind.
If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard
He was thoughtful and
March 4, 2008 - 11:26 ET by Chris NormanHe was thoughtful, wise, and articulate. It's a shame our system can't produce (or tolerate) a politician and leader like him.
Unfortunately, I think he
March 4, 2008 - 12:36 ET by Hero SquadUnfortunately, I think he was born in Panama, making him ineligible to run for president.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Damn.:) My slogan for his
March 4, 2008 - 12:42 ET by Chris NormanDamn.:) My slogan for his campaign was going to be: Czech the box for Klaus!
How about "Klaus" comes month before Christmas
March 4, 2008 - 12:57 ET by PawpawNHow about "Klaus" comes month before Christmas! And there are many more!
Czech President Klaus
March 4, 2008 - 11:12 ET by ricklailI hope some of you got to see President Klaus of the Czech Republic interview with Glenn Beck. He is in NY to speak at the International Conference on Climate Change-the conference that no media including Fox is bothering to cover. He said something to the effect that the global warming alarmist's tatics were no different than those used by the Commies' propganda machine in the old Soviet Union. He is going to be back on Beck for another interview on Wednesday. This time he is going to speak out atbout Putin.
On another note. Did anyone catch O'Reilly saying that Hillary was not a Socialist last night? It was in his opening along with the blurb about Gloria Stienham. Boy is he wrong. I don't know what planet he has been on but everytime she opens her mouth it spews forth the Socialist agenda.
If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard
Yes, ricklail
March 4, 2008 - 11:14 ET by Mica the MagnificentYes! I heard O'Reilly say Hillary was not a socialist.
I ruined my 3 day record of not screaming at the t.v.
We're on the same page (see
March 4, 2008 - 11:17 ET by Chris NormanWe're on the same page (see immediately above). I caught O'Reilly saying that. O'Reilly stretches (sometimes real far) and contorts trying to equivicate between Democrats and Republicans and conservatives and liberals.
Socialism seems to have a loose definition
March 4, 2008 - 15:34 ET by mvfreemanThere is more to actual socialism than income redistribution, which is what Hillary is for.
Socialism is typically defined as collective ownership of the means of production and distribution, which I have not heard Hillary mention. She has not advocated the government taking over an industry, such as health care, she has advocated for government to pay for peoples bills. There will still be private doctors and hospitals.
So in that regard she is not quite as far left as a true "socialist".
http://www.bartleby.com/65/so/socialis.html
You forget "regulation"
March 4, 2008 - 15:45 ET by Jack BauerYou forget "regulation" too.
Ownership and "regulation" of the means of production, allegedly on behalf of the "community" or "proleteriat" (Yeah, right, believe that one.)
Clearly, the "soft" socialism I would accuse most liberals and their ilk of pining for, is not the transitory state between capitalism and communism as envisaged by Marx and Engels.
But it is equally corrosive to my mind, and it is based on regulation and collectivism by another name.
Some of Hill's positions
March 4, 2008 - 16:10 ET by mvfreemanSome of Hill's positions are definitely based on socialist ideals but technically O'Reilly was right to say she is not a socialist.
Her liberal policies are too far over to the left as it is.
I base my view of her being
March 4, 2008 - 16:23 ET by ricklailI base my view of her being a socialist on the things she is touting and the acutal Socialist Party Platform. They aren't just similar they are in some cases word for word.
If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard
This is their platform...
March 4, 2008 - 16:55 ET by mvfreeman"The Socialist Party stands for the abolition of every form of domination and exploitation, whether based on social class, gender, race/ethnicity, age, education, sexual orientation, or other characteristics.
We are committed to the transformation of capitalism through the creation of a democratic socialist society based on compassion, empathy, and respect as well as the development of new social structures. Socialism will establish a new social and economic order in which workers and community members will take responsibility for and control of their interpersonal relationships, their neighborhoods, their local government, and the production and distribution of all goods and services.
For these reasons we call for social ownership and democratic control of productive resources, for a guarantee to all of the right to participate in societal production, and to a fair share of society's product, in accordance with individual needs.
I'm sorry but I have yet to hear Hill call for private ownership and capitalism to be scrapped. If she did she wouldn't have a prayer of getting elected.
As we pursue a socialist transformation of society, we join with others in making radical demands on the existing system: demands that challenge the basic assumptions of a capitalist market economy while pointing the way to a new society. Although reforms will not in themselves bring about socialism, the fight for them will advance the cause by demonstrating the inherent limitations and injustice of the capitalist system. As we build the socialist movement, we organize around a platform committed to our common and interdependent struggles and aspirations.
If she loses both today
March 4, 2008 - 11:16 ET by shawn228She should throw in the towel and hope Obama picks for veep
Lets blame the media
Oh, that'd be a political
March 4, 2008 - 11:27 ET by Chris NormanOh, that'd be a political marriage made in hell.
It's not in her character
March 4, 2008 - 11:33 ET by dscottIt's not in her character to do so. Clinton will sacrifice the Dem Party to get what she wants, even if it means all the Blacks sitting out the election. The Dem Party is like an abused child, they keep coming back because they can't see any other choices other than those provided by the abuser. It's easy to convince people of their victimhood, just stab them with a stick a few more times.
Lord Sidious / Darth Vader 2008 Long Live the Empire! Come to the Dark Side, it is your Destiny.
Best Interest of the Party
March 4, 2008 - 11:18 ET by CGatton"...will she do what is in the best interest of her party, and drop out..."
A case could certainly be made that it would be in the best interest of her party for her to remain in the race, regardless. Despite the small difference, she is to the right of Qbama, or if you prefer, he is to her left, and so can better position herself as a centrist. And that will make a difference.
I know the conventional wisdom on this site and in the media is that Obama is a force to be reckoned with - but I think you underestimate both his negatives and what it takes for an 'ender' to get elected. Uncle Ronnie was an exception in that he won while on the right end of the spectrum. He did not win because he was so conservative, he won despite it, and with convincing margins. However he had three external factors propelling him.
They were, in order of effect: Carter's failed presidency and Iran; his personal likeability; and the unrest in the cold war and in the Soviet Union. Obama has only one of these going for him, and it is his personality. That is, I believe, insufficient to drive his campaign much further than the feel good status it now enjoys.
Don't get me wrong - I think Hillary is in the same spot, since she is far to the left of Bill, and it was his appeal to the center that got him elected. However, the case can easily be made that she will do better, even when she loses, than will Obama, and is therefore better for the party that she remain in the race.
You can smell the setup already - the media really doesn't care whether they win or lose. Or sure, there will be much individual wailing and gnashing of teeth should they lose, but there will follow four years of constant hammering at the Republicans about how the loss was due either to rampant racism or sexism - take your pick.
V/R
Clyde
"...the aspirants to tyranny are either the...men of the state, who in democracies are demagogues,... or those who hold great offices, and have a long tenure.." - Aristotle, Politics, c350BC
CitiBailout
March 4, 2008 - 11:28 ET by sarcasmoInadequate. We'll see if, as with Citi's previous Mexico-irresponsibility, us taxpayers get to pick up the "too big to fail" slack again.
JMR
A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.
best interest of her party ? Communist party ?
March 4, 2008 - 11:42 ET by JayTeeI'm like Rush, I think its in the best interest of MY party, Rino or American, that Hillary continues to beat on Obamarama...she may be the only one left that can use his Middle name and get away with it.
The Icing on the Cake, if she continues, is that the MSM will roll out the B-HO Bias for all to see, even Hillary.
Anyone else hear about the
March 4, 2008 - 11:44 ET by balboaAnyone else hear about the video of the Marine throwing a puppy into a ravine?
I *hope* that wasn't a real/live dog
March 4, 2008 - 11:50 ET by Free StinkerIt's hard to tell, but it doesn't look like the dog moved once.
I *hope* that wasn't a real/live dog. Either way, someone has some splain' to do!
Pledge to not support RINOs ever again!
Yeah, kinda hard to tell
March 4, 2008 - 11:53 ET by balboaYeah, kinda hard to tell from the video. Heard about this story just this morning.
T-O-A-S-T
March 4, 2008 - 11:55 ET by tracheostomyThose men are now officially ex-Marines in the truest sense. This will make the Michael Vick case pale by comparison.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Unlike the NFL, if this guy
March 4, 2008 - 12:16 ET by BDUnlike the NFL, if this guy actually did this he will be FRIED.
Speaking of the NFL,
March 4, 2008 - 12:41 ET by Hero SquadSpeaking of the NFL, just saw on Drudge that Brett Favre is retiring.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Well, he has had a
March 4, 2008 - 12:43 ET by BDWell, he has had a fantastic career and deserves to retire while he can still walk.
Applause is deserved for Mr Favre.
Surprise
March 4, 2008 - 15:55 ET by KC MulvilleTwo years ago, the guy has a bum year, and he comes back. This past year, he has another MVP-type year, and now he retires. Gotta be more to that story. He says that he wasn't upset that the Packers weren't going to try to get Randy Moss, but he retires the very day that Moss re-signs with the Patriots. Very curious.
I love the guy. He was fun to watch. But something's going on there.
Outrageous
March 4, 2008 - 13:42 ET by bigtimerI heard and saw this early this morning too...it is outrageous, there was over 800 comments on this site too...one of the few times I commented on something like this...
...anyway, I do not care what walk of life you are from...I hope this guy does some serious time....this is absolutely a crying shame and despicable.
Poor little puppy.
Btw...there were some comments that some people think this was faked, sure didn't seem it to me...
Why does news from Iraq only get this type of coverage ?
March 4, 2008 - 12:40 ET by JayTeeThere's been several bombings of Dog Markets in Iraq, places where you can go and buy a Dog....Dumb Islamics bombers trying to enforce their brand of hate.
Yet we hear nothing from Iraq until this.....I can go into a Desert dressed as a marine and make a YOU TUBE video also.
shocking!
March 4, 2008 - 12:50 ET by candanceWhy Jay Tee, you dare question the authenticity of a You Tube video? You remain skeptical about a guy who looks like a Marine? People who are willing to destroy property to prove a point would never stoop so far as pretending to be a Marine.
Didn't you hear that Haditha story really happened too?
Candance - -Exactly, there's a Trend in these storeis
March 4, 2008 - 15:27 ET by JayTeeAnd the Trend is the MSM is lying......but we never see the Apology.
Apology? Hell, you never
March 4, 2008 - 16:17 ET by motherbeltApology? Hell, you never even see a correction! They just wait for people to forget....
It's gone
March 4, 2008 - 12:51 ET by ricklailI looked at it earlier. At 11:51 it is gone.
If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard
Do a Google search and
March 4, 2008 - 13:07 ET by balboaDo a Google search and it'll probably come up.
Dagger Under Her Cloak
March 4, 2008 - 12:42 ET by GothampcNever underestimate the power of a Clinton who smells power. I'm waiting to see the dagger under her cloak.
ANOTHER reason the DOJ could use some turnover...
March 4, 2008 - 12:44 ET by sarcasmoWhistleblowers exposing "questionable" (at best...) expenditures of tax money get punished.
JMR
A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.
Ooops. Can't Barack "H-word"
March 4, 2008 - 12:53 ET by Jack BauerOoops. Can't Barack "H-word" Obama get his facts right?
Don't they talk...
Rockefeller voted FOR the war resolution.
So a billionaire Democrat patrician who is now supporting him ALSO got it "wrong" after he also read the Intelligence Estimate (sic).
That would blow it out the water .. if anyone in the MSM were to actaully ask the neo-Messiah a question.
Jackson, The Hopeful
March 4, 2008 - 13:14 ET by Roger the ShrubberJackson,
The Hopeful Changer is a Kerryesque flip-flopper, too.
Double ooops el shrubbo...
March 4, 2008 - 13:21 ET by Jack BauerDouble ooops el shrubbo...
Of course, I would support his 2004 policy of taking out Iran nukes... but how helpful of the Trib to watch the H-word's back.
That was extra special,
March 4, 2008 - 14:30 ET by Roger the ShrubberThat was extra special, wasn't it, Jackson?
Roger, I believe he has
March 4, 2008 - 13:47 ET by motherbeltRoger, I believe he has said that a LOT more recently than 2004 also...I remember pundits talking about the stupidity of threatening one of our allies (Pakistan) when the debates first started. Or were they reprising his 2004 comments?
He has also flip-flopped on Iraq too...saying that he would start removing troops immediately, but then saying he would, as CinC, of course always reserve the right to re-assess.
He has also flip-flopped on
March 4, 2008 - 13:48 ET by motherbeltHe has also flip-flopped on Iraq too...saying that he would start removing troops immediately, but then saying he would, as CinC, of course always reserve the right to re-assess.
Flip-flopping is just his
March 4, 2008 - 14:16 ET by Hero SquadFlip-flopping is just his way of further proving his commitment to change.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Roger, perhaps Sen. O is
March 4, 2008 - 15:45 ET by Chris NormanRoger, perhaps Sen. O is including his mind when he speaks of "change"?
Obama's Sermon on the Mount and Pesky Apostle Paul
March 4, 2008 - 13:24 ET by Daniel BakerHe becomes closer to Satan as he twists scripture to sanction sin. Homosexual behavior does not make an idenity that needs protection Barry.
http://townhall.com/columnists/RobertKnight/2008/03/03/clueless_in_obama_nation
I saw a different article on
March 4, 2008 - 13:40 ET by motherbeltI saw a different article on that subject yesterday. How he gets an OK for same-sex relationships from the Sermon on the Mount is completely beyond me. The man is totally restructuring Christianity to fit his own beliefs. Shameful.
Someone should ask him...
March 4, 2008 - 14:08 ET by Prester John....how he thinks the Sermon on the Mount relates to killing unborn children.
»→ Sermon on the mount
March 4, 2008 - 16:13 ET by Cool ArrowDuring his trip to the Holy Land Barack Obama went to Mount Olive and Popeye beat the h*ll outta him.
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exactly daniel
March 4, 2008 - 15:32 ET by candanceTo borrow a line from my pastor...when you put an asterik on a scripture to make someone feel better, that's not tolerance, that's deception.
candance,
March 4, 2008 - 16:26 ET by motherbeltI like your pastor!
That's what's great about being a liberal...one isn't tied down by any "absolutes"...everyone gets to "interpret" things his own way, and to suit his own personal preferences.
Not fit for CinC
March 4, 2008 - 13:28 ET by JWFI am going to try this again because I think it is important.
John F. Kennedy was the youngest man elected President. He was a gifted speaker. He was also a bonafide WAR HERO. He PT boat was sliced in half by a Japanese warship and sunk.
Barack H. Obama is running for the Presidency by OPPOSING a war we are WINNING! How friggin' intelligent is that?
JWF, don't you know, the
March 4, 2008 - 13:49 ET by motherbeltJWF, don't you know, the Democrats have decided that in this cycle military experience doesn't matter. That's part of the "change" thing....
Poor baby can't take the heat
March 4, 2008 - 13:31 ET by IgnatzJFahrquarAs noted on Drudge:
http://www.nydailyne...
Poor Obamma can't take the heat. The questions get tough and he walks? What happens if he's Prez and there's a crisis? Will he go hide under the covers?
"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain
An Iraq Story that won't make MSM
March 4, 2008 - 13:54 ET by JayTeeIraq is more Safe for his Mom, than the Local Neighborhood was for the Football Star
Racists4Obama
March 4, 2008 - 15:04 ET by Jack BauerThat Obama sure transcends politics, he's such a uniter he's even getting the racist vote!
The New York Post reports
Sad News
March 4, 2008 - 15:19 ET by Roger the ShrubberNooooooooooooo!!!!
Sad death indeed. RIP.
March 4, 2008 - 15:25 ET by Jack BauerI concur.
Police are looking for a stocky dwarf, dressed in chain-mail, wielding a double-bladed axe.
While not a "suspect," the lead detective says... "he is certainly a dwarf person of interest!"
Jack... I can't help but
March 4, 2008 - 15:27 ET by bigtimerJack...
I can't help but laugh with your descriptive post...
My son will be sad about this news though.
Not as sad as all those
March 4, 2008 - 18:54 ET by motherbeltNot as sad as all those college kids across the country were last year when this guy died!
I do not believe I have
March 4, 2008 - 19:28 ET by Roger the ShrubberI do not believe I have eaten Ramen noodles since I graduated college.
Ugh.
The Reverend Doctor Barruck Hussein Obama
March 4, 2008 - 16:17 ET by ricklailI see now that BHO has a degree in theology. He seems to think that Romans 1:18-28 is an obscure passage. The theologian in me thinks more and more every day that he is a type of the Anti-christ.
Update at 15:16- Sorry but I didn't know that Daniel had already posted something on this.
If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard
»→ Hillary for President
March 4, 2008 - 16:10 ET by Cool ArrowI must confess this Texan and his son suffered a momentary lapse of reason today and voted as Democrats for Her Thighness today.
I feel better after a long hot shower with Dial Antibacterial.
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Cool
March 4, 2008 - 16:15 ET by ricklailIf there is still a race when they get to NC I am going to do the same thing. I forgive you my son. The main reason I am declaring as a Dem is to vote against our sitting Lt. Governor Beverly Perdue for governor.
If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard
Yes Rick
March 4, 2008 - 16:20 ET by Cool ArrowSad day when there is so much more to vote against than for.
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Say what You want about the Danes
March 4, 2008 - 16:59 ET by nixonspeedbandits.dk But, they know how to control speeding .
True Primary Fraud Story
March 4, 2008 - 17:09 ET by Cool ArrowI'm here in Texas.
Just got a call from the Obama Campaign telling me where (Fire Station) to go to caucus for Obama.
I asked him "Where do I go if I'm a Hillary supporter?" (you're not going to believe this)
The caller said "I'm not sure"
So I asked him very sternly "Are you sure you don't know where the Clinton Caucus is?"
After admitting it was the same fire station, I shouted into the Phone: "You Son of a B****!! How dare you try to steer me away from my candidate!!!"
I was receiving copious apologies as I clicked the phone off.
Just thought I'd offer this little laugh at foolish Dems who don't realize the purpose of a caucus is to choose among the candidates of the particular party. The alternative is that Dems expect their constituents are idiots.
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cool... Oh that is a
March 4, 2008 - 17:18 ET by bigtimercool...
Oh that is a riot!!!
Typical too...
I see now on one of the networks that the planning is already in for calling major problems in Ohio if the vote doesn't come out the way the losing candidate wants it to with flooding at some polling places...if this is even true to the extent that it is really hurting the voters.
Lawyers at the ready I assume...
funy tht this is what they usually do to us...now they are still eating each other...ya' gotta' love it.
Who do I write to demand
March 4, 2008 - 22:53 ET by ConservativeRexWho do I write to demand that all federal money be stopped going to Brattleboro Vermont? Fact is, I would like to see ALL federal money stop going to Vermont. I am damn tired of my federal tax money going to those communist in that piss ant good for absolutely nothing state.