For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: Clinton campaign disseminates picture of Obama as Somali elder.
Is this a typical Clinton smear tactic? Will it work, or is it just an example of their desperation?
What do you think about the picture? Do you see this as a racial attack on Obama, or a religious one trying to imply he's Muslim?














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Kitchen sink
February 26, 2008 - 10:41 ET by Cool ArrowSeems even when Hillary throws dung, it turns to gold by the time it gets to its target.
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As far as the Obama pic, I
February 26, 2008 - 10:50 ET by DCC1As far as the Obama pic, I think what is most telling is that this is the man that will NOT wear a US flag, will not put his hand over his heart for the pledge or national anthem, but has no problem putting on this muslim garb? I have a problem with that!
2nd, with his ties to radical islam
http://patdollard.co...
I want to know why he was meeting with a known al-qaeda supporter and what exactly was said, I want to see his ass brought before a congressional hearing and every word combed through. This is a much bigger issue than steroids, yet it is brushed under the rug.
http://patdollard.co...
If hes not going to talk about anything real on his own, I want to see him forced to, I think we all deserve a little bit of truth in this election.
Terrorists want change too
I don't buy the flag pin
February 26, 2008 - 10:56 ET by balboaI don't buy the flag pin junk, and I'm not sure the Clinton camp is circulating this pic. Anyone can find these pics and start sending them. If this is their idea of trying to damage Obama, it's pretty lame.
So you have no problem for
February 26, 2008 - 10:59 ET by DCC1So you have no problem for this man to shun American customs, but bow to the customs of other nations, and religions? At the very least it shows a lack of character.
Not sure that a lapel pin
February 26, 2008 - 11:12 ET by balboaNot sure that a lapel pin is a custom, nor that the pledge of allegiance kerfuffle is what he does all the time.
As for "bowing" to customs of other nations and regions, politicians are always doing stuff like this, getting dressed up in the garb of foreign countries.
If you wan to run for
February 26, 2008 - 11:23 ET by Roger the ShrubberIf you wan to run for president, one MUST BE ultra-patriotic, even if it's something as simple as the Pledge of Allegiance or wearing a lapel pin.
Rookie mistake after rookie mistake.
You cannot think like "Balboa, erstwhile liberal". You have to think like "Balboa, presidential candidate, whose every action and word will be dissected by millions of people"
Middle America pays attention to crap like this. A good politician will take advantage of this. The Hopeful Changer, apparently, is not saavy enough of a politician to understand this. This is why he will blow as president.
No, I understand that, but
February 26, 2008 - 11:27 ET by balboaNo, I understand that, but I don't think it's an indicator that you shouldn't vote for him or that he can't do the job. His lack of experience or statements of substance are much more important than all this other junk.
→ In other words
February 26, 2008 - 11:34 ET by Cool ArrowDo you think Democrats are wrong in demanding a litmus test of prospective SCOTUS judges?
Same principle.
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I haven't heard about that.
February 26, 2008 - 11:37 ET by balboaI haven't heard about that. What's the deal?
I'm saying if you're going to question or criticize Obama as a candidate, to me it's much more relevant to talk about what he stands for than what he wears on his lapels.
→ That'd be nice bal
February 26, 2008 - 11:44 ET by Cool ArrowExcept all we know about Obama is that he wants to raise taxes, adulterate healthcare, and force us to buy the air we use.
That's a heckuva lot more change than I'd hope for.
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Well Balboa,
February 26, 2008 - 11:47 ET by NavyBuckeyewouldn't that require Obama himself to come forward and speak to his swarm what he stands for? He only mentions change and speaks in rose colored rheteric to hide is true intentions. His views are socialistic bordering on hardline Communism.
-a living wage
-socialized health care
-his racist statements(against whites, but thats ok to libs) in his book
-income redistribution(not only to our undeserving but to the worlds as well, he is the writer of this bill)
-wanting higher taxes...
-pandering to terrorists and belittling American values.
They man first needs to be more clear on his views....but he won't because most of America is against what he really stands for.
“Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter” - Thomas Jefferson
Bal, in Obamas case, it
February 26, 2008 - 11:48 ET by bassndudeBal, in Obamas case, it tends to indicate more of what he dosent stand for. Not sure I want someone like that in a political office. Much less the presidency.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Sigh. You could not be more
February 26, 2008 - 11:40 ET by Roger the ShrubberSigh. You could not be more wrong, Bal.
These kind of uneccesary, stupid mistakes show a COMPLETE lack of experience, lack of understanding what the MAJORITY of Americans want to see, and gives me ZERO confidence that The Hopeful Changer could handle ANY crisis in the White House. He is pathetically out-of-touch with America, held up like some sort of Messiah, and will ruin this country. It is sad that you are defending this idiot (or are you just being your usual contrarian self today?)...
For Christ's sake, Farrakhan loves this guy! Doesn't that raise gigantic red flags for you?
You, yourself, said "His lack of experience or statements of substance are much more important". I think I have shown that The Hopeful Changer is woefully lacking in both categories. Prove me wrong.
→ Did you say red flag?
February 26, 2008 - 11:45 ET by Cool ArrowNow there's a flag Obama would wear proudly. Does it come with a picture of Chairman Mao?
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1. I'm not crazy about him
February 26, 2008 - 11:47 ET by balboa1. I'm not crazy about him as a presidential candidate for the reasons previously given.
2. I don't think the lapel pin, the pledge, have much to do with how he'd handle a crisis. His lack of experience in such matters is a much bigger concern. (which is why I think his choice of VP would be crucial)
3. I don't want to prove you wrong because I agree that he's "woefully lacking in both categories."
balboa
February 26, 2008 - 12:05 ET by Dee Bunkare you saying you would vote for McCain?
I'm considering all my
February 26, 2008 - 12:09 ET by balboaI'm considering all my options at this point. McCain's far from perfect, too. This is looking to be one of those elections where you vote for someone by default.
→ true, bal
February 26, 2008 - 12:12 ET by Cool Arrowguillotine, a thousand cuts, or cancer.
Same difference.
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...or
February 26, 2008 - 12:15 ET by vrwc13...or Huckabee?
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http://newsbusters.o...
No, I'd never vote for
February 26, 2008 - 12:33 ET by balboaNo, I'd never vote for Huck.
No, I'd never vote for Huck.
February 26, 2008 - 12:36 ET by vrwc13...too religious?
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"Faith doesn't just influence me. It really defines me. I don't have to wake up every day wondering what do I need to believe," Huckabee says in the ad. "Let us never sacrifice our principles for anybody's politics. Not now, not ever."
Much.
February 26, 2008 - 12:55 ET by balboaMuch.
You're right, he should be,
February 26, 2008 - 11:52 ET by motherbeltYou're right, he should be, and can be, criticized on much more important grounds, two of which you mentioned.
As for the patriotism thing, while not a big deal, I don't think it would kill him to wear a flag pin or to put his hand over his heart when everyone else does. If you're running for President, why not go along with the little things? That's kind of a stupid thing to make a stand over. Frankly, I'm sick of people implying that it's more patriotic to criticize one's country.
On the African dress thing, I started out thinking....no big deal; they all do it. But then I started thinking: Why are you willing to submit to the customs of other countries in order to be courteous, but you won't perform the little patriotic customs of your own country?
So what you're saying, Rog,
February 26, 2008 - 13:08 ET by JasonCSo what you're saying, Rog, is that Middle America is particularly susceptible to stupid, superficial bullshit? Sounds about right. The flag lapel pin, for politicians at least, isn't about being patriotic, it's about projecting an air of patriotism to idiots who lap that sort of thing up. Actions (real, political actions) speak louder than dime-store trinkets and not putting one's hands in the right place during the pledge.
Jason - and what political actions of Obama show his patriotism?
February 26, 2008 - 13:17 ET by Dee BunkYou act like it's unpatriotic to wear a flag pin. Being proud of your country is patriotic and the flag, the National Anthem and the Pledge are symbols that show we are proud. If you are proud you display the flag with pride. Not wearing one is not unpatriotic but taking a stance not to wear one certainly is.
Insulting someone for liking to portray their patriotism is certainly not patriotic. It seems that that is what you are doing.
Exactly, what some of these
February 26, 2008 - 13:46 ET by DCC1Exactly, what some of these bafoons do understand and have right is that wearing a flag, and hand over your heart does not in itselft make you patriotic, but where they go over the cliff is saying that it is more patriotic to not do so. That is bs. A qualification for POTUS is love of country, I don't think these people have any of that, and should step aside and not make the official US foreign policy, anti-America, anti-west.
Terrorists want change too
I'm not talking about Obama
February 26, 2008 - 13:56 ET by JasonCI'm not talking about Obama per se. And I'm not insulting anyone for wearing their patriotism on a pin. I'm contesting that it signifies anything patriotic for politicians other than the thought that "Well, this will make it that much harder for them to call ME unpatriotic. It's for, as Rog pointed out for us, the Middle America crowd, and is meaningless in and of itself.
Sorry, I realize this is cynical, and I hate being right about it.
»→ You're right Jason
February 26, 2008 - 14:05 ET by Cool ArrowIt means absolutely nothing. Unless you consider the following pertinent:
Perception is everything.
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Yes. And since
February 26, 2008 - 14:20 ET by JasonCYes. And since "perception" almost surely applies to "voters", the fact that perception is everything just underscores the cynical aspect.
Side note: Can "pertinent" be used as a noun? Not being a grammar cop here, genuinely interested.
I think he's using it
February 26, 2008 - 14:23 ET by sarcasmoAs an adjective. And for some reason, the flag-pin controversy always makes me think about my "535 Bill of Rights doormats" idea... Would that the Constitution were treated with 1/10th the reverence with which the flag gets treated these days, our nation would be a LOT better-off than it currently is.
JMR
A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.
sarc - Obama is consistent - no respect for constitution either
February 26, 2008 - 14:58 ET by Dee BunkHe filibusters judges based on litmus tests and wants to install judges who believe in a living breathing document to be revised by the courts to fit with the liberal dogma.
He's not the only one...
February 27, 2008 - 00:12 ET by sarcasmoHence my 535 number.
JMR
A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.
»→ don't think so Jason
February 26, 2008 - 14:26 ET by Cool ArrowYou can't pertinent something any more than you can important it.
I guess you can pertain something, though.
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In your original post, you
February 26, 2008 - 18:28 ET by JasonCIn your original post, you used it as a noun with the article "this". That's why I asked. In the first line of this post you're using it as a transitive verb (which I agree doesn't work).
»→ OK Jason
February 26, 2008 - 18:45 ET by Cool ArrowI could have typed it up in the Queen's English, but chose to break up the sentence into two thoughts.
It means absolutely nothing, unless you consider the following (to be) pertinent:
The adjective (pertinent) is still descriptive of the noun (following).
And, no, (following) is not a gerund. Beyond that, I'm not much on following (now it's a gerund) correct grammar in my posts.
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Oh you're right. I see
February 26, 2008 - 18:54 ET by JasonCOh you're right. I see what you were doing. I really just totally missed the implied "to be" and read it as a noun. My bad.
Jason - I agree with your cynical sentiment that if you aren't
February 26, 2008 - 14:15 ET by Dee Bunkpatriotic than you shouldn't fake it with a pin. There we can agree.
Obama can't wear the flag
February 26, 2008 - 15:55 ET by TruthMongerObama can't wear the flag pin if he wants the Democrat nomination
Libs shrug this off of course
but it's what the pin stands for, Jason - the physical pin itself is just a cheap piece of plastic made in China
but what the pin stands for is sacred to all Americans regardless of party or politics - the one thing we all agree on
and Democrats lately seem unwilling to stand with it when the going gets tough, when someone wants to behead you for it, or simply in public anywhere
they will not stand up and be countedthis all probably sounds kinda hokey and ridiculous to you doesn't it
I agree. Alienating
February 26, 2008 - 13:52 ET by Roger the ShrubberI agree. Alienating millions of voters needlessly is a genius move on The Hopeful Changer's part. No wonder you are so enamored with The Messiah. You are similarly clueless, having zero understanding of Middle America.
But, by all means, shower us with The Hopeful Changer's extensive resume of ACTIONS that qualifies him to be president.
Flag pin custom
February 26, 2008 - 12:02 ET by Cool ArrowI don't customarily wear one either. But I haven't taken a public stand on my not wearing it as a statement.
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Obama not wanting to offend...
February 26, 2008 - 11:22 ET by m36b1Dang - that's a good point. Obama's more than willing to don a turban and some oversized diapers so that he won't offend some tribal folks in Africa - but he's not willing to wear a flag pin or place his hand over his heart - and then make some rambling statement about his principals or something? What the heck? So this schmo has no problem making a sizeable portion of the United States a little perturbed by choosing not to wear a pin or pledge allegiance. So, can we assume that there would be a sizeable portion of the United States that would be up in arms if he "forced himself" to pin a US flag to his lapel and put his hand over his heart? It's pretty sad when idiocy like this is praised in our own country.
Etiquitte
February 26, 2008 - 16:38 ET by docbFlag rules say that only military/police/fire and etc. are allowed to wear the flag as apparel... In Other words do not wear unless you are one of the above. You put your hand over your heart for the pledge of allegience to the flag and not during the singing of the national anthem. However, these arguments do give the racists and bigots a chance to slam him along with the clintons.
Just look it up...flag etiquitte--or google it.
No one is allowed to wear
February 26, 2008 - 16:52 ET by BuffNBoneNo one is allowed to wear the flag as apparel. Check it out.
Possibly you are thinking of an accouterment? In which case the size, placement, etc. are to be consistent with other rules for displaying the flag. Bottomline is we are to show respect to the flag.
Placing your hand over your heart during the Nation Anthem is optional. Those in uniform are to stand at attention.
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
docb
February 26, 2008 - 18:31 ET by well99"However, these arguments do give the racists and bigots a chance to slam him along with the clintons."
Is that how you feel about it?
→ Too bad bal
February 26, 2008 - 11:02 ET by Cool ArrowBut the origin of an email is easily tracked.
Drudge isn't going to run the story unless the email address and its origin are verifiable.
Drudge broke the Lewinski scandal when other outlets kept it under wraps. So in a way, the timidity of the MSM created Drudge.
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A flag pin is not patriotism
February 26, 2008 - 11:11 ET by jay_1975So let's jump on Mrs. Bush for wearing a head scarf right? Let's jump on President Bush for having close ties with the Saudi Royal family (suspected terrorist supporters). As for the flag pin, I am not wearing one, am I not patriotic enough. And for the hand over the heart, is it better to hold your hand over your stomach? That is what the President did and was caught on camera of course.
http://www.intoxination.net/node/8718
→ Jay
February 26, 2008 - 11:37 ET by Cool ArrowHis followers love his slap at the flag.
If wearing a flag would get him elected, he'd be debating Hillary tonight in full Apollo Creed regalia.
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Anyone heard the "speech" "explanation" by B-HO on the flag pin
February 26, 2008 - 12:33 ET by JayTeeObama Made a Speech about taking off the Flag Pin...anyone heard that ?
The point of a Flag pin, is showing Respect, it's a symbol that you should respect, especially f you are elected to office by Flag respecting Voters.
jay tee, to me it's no big
February 26, 2008 - 13:00 ET by motherbeltjay tee, to me it's no big deal if someone wears a flag pin or not.. He should just say I've never worn one, I just don't wear pins. Period. Instead he chose to make it a matter of "principle" which leaves him open to criticism.
In Obama's case, what's then seen is a man who's willing to wear the costume of another country, as a courtesy, but is unwilling to observe the courteous customs of patriotism in regard to his own country, as a matter of "principle. What does that say about him?
Looks shopped to me.
February 26, 2008 - 18:14 ET by Dan The Man 2Looks shopped to me. Notice the crease on the left side and it looks like what a hand would do if pushed to the left.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Obama's plans
February 26, 2008 - 11:43 ET by candanceThe Obamas have made it clear that they don't like America the way it stands now and are on a mission to change it to their liking. BO reminds me of FDR more and more - trusting the likes of Stalin because they were friends and pushing America to be remade in that image.
Seeing him in Muslim clothing doesn't really bother me. I'm more worried about his political ties in Kenya, his apathy toward Al Qaeda, and his sympathy for all things socialist.
Harvard is shutting down
February 26, 2008 - 10:57 ET by DCC1Harvard is shutting down its athletic facilites to men, to accomodate muslim women on campus to have their own time to workout.
http://media.www.dai...
Please tell me how this is anything other than pandering to non-tolerant bigotry, whats next, gym hours for certain races? Seperate but equal?!
But should we really be surprised? This coming from the state of Kerry and Kennedy?
RE: Harvard
February 26, 2008 - 14:05 ET by Daniel BakerGood for Harvard! I'm sure you think seperate lockerrooms is bigotry also.
»→ Baker
February 26, 2008 - 14:12 ET by Cool ArrowHarvard doesn't already have accomodations for women?
Why didn't I get the memo?
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Oh yeah Dan, Gooood for
February 26, 2008 - 15:42 ET by DCC1Oh yeah Dan, Gooood for Haaarvard. You are a sheep. Bow to the religious pressures of a minority that will stop at nothing to impose sharia law. Yeah thats right this is phase one of integrating their religion into our laws and government.
You same fools that fight back Christians on every inch are giving muslims miles.
Terrorists want change too
I'm sure you think
February 26, 2008 - 15:48 ET by DCC1I'm sure you think seperate lockerrooms is bigotry also.
Oh yeah, nice comparison, lets see, getting naked/being in the same building as someone?
I'm sure you think it's fine to make blacks eat in seperate dinning rooms than right?
Or should we make resturaunts conform as well and have seperate tables for women and men?
This is the problem today. People like you have no morals, so you can't see the difference between sharing a gym and sharing a lockeroom.
»→ DCC1
February 26, 2008 - 15:53 ET by Cool ArrowAnd heaven forbid the gym be open to Jews at the same time.
But then again, how else can a Sharia woman look good for her man in that formfitting berkha?
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Re Harvard That's why I
February 26, 2008 - 15:07 ET by motherbeltRe Harvard
That's why I say Sharia law; not by conquest, but by capitulation.
And now, today's Shrub
February 26, 2008 - 10:58 ET by Roger the ShrubberAnd now, today's Shrub Report®:
Obama takes revenge, breathes sigh of relief after creepy gay limo guy fails polygraph. Another Clintonista attack repulsed.
The Hopeful Changer makes another rookie mistake. Definitely a Not-Ready-For-Prime-Time-Player. But, hey, mental giants like Leon will still vote for him.
This might help explain why Leon's posts tend to be, well, stupid.
The #1 high school football player in the country (and still undecided which college to grace with his presence) also plays a mean game of basketball.
Rock and roll birthdays today: Fats Domino, Mitch Ryder, and Johnny Cash…
Doomsday Seed Vault opens on remote Norwegian island. Which will happen first? Will the polar bears eat the island's residents, or will Global Warming melt so much ice that the island ends up 100 feet underwater?
Partner with Islam!
The Religion of Peace!
Partner with Islam!
The Religion of Peace!
Partner with Islam!
And, finally, The Name of the Year tournament continues…
→ Larry Sinclair
February 26, 2008 - 11:10 ET by Cool ArrowSo another Clinton rumor "goes down" in flames.
Guess they "blew it" again.
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...bumper sticker I saw yesterday...
February 26, 2008 - 11:22 ET by vrwc13"Monica Lewinsky's
ex-boyfriend's wife
for President"
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"We just can't trust the American people to make those types of choices.... Government has to make those choices for people" -HRC
a child shall lead you
February 26, 2008 - 13:14 ET by TruthMongernuke em til they glow, rog
then shoot em in the dark:)
I see a child leading you,
February 26, 2008 - 13:43 ET by Roger the ShrubberI see a child leading you, Tumbles... Or is it this child? Allah Akbar, Tumbles!
these children are
February 26, 2008 - 16:11 ET by TruthMongerthese children are following, not leading
seems to be a problem here too:(
What's your position again?
February 26, 2008 - 15:01 ET by dvdaughtryWhat's your position again? Islam is no threat? Danger?
You're a funny guy Truth Monger.
oh yes your reading
February 26, 2008 - 15:58 ET by TruthMongeroh yes
your reading skills are impeccible
my exact quote above is that "Islam is no threat"
and that is hilarious isn't it
Just an observation... If
February 26, 2008 - 16:13 ET by dvdaughtryJust an observation...
If I am mistaken, please remind me.
=)
Mitch Ryder
February 26, 2008 - 14:22 ET by ricklailIn honor of Mitch Ryder's birthday how about a little C C Rider
Or Devil with a Blue Dress On.
If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard
Roger, you forgot 1 from your own backyard
February 26, 2008 - 15:53 ET by IgnatzJFahrquarhttp://www.pittsburg...
Sorry, as a Clevelander, I just couldn't pass it up.
"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain
Already got my resume in,
February 26, 2008 - 19:36 ET by Roger the ShrubberAlready got my resume in, Ig :p
The picture on its own
February 26, 2008 - 11:04 ET by MidAmericaThe picture on its own is not a smear but it's up to BO to explain what wearing the traditional dress meant to him. After all, JFK went to Berlin and said he was a Berliner too and we didn't question his national loyalties. The problem with BO we are being asked to accept a wrapped package we don't get to see the contents of till after the election.
In my business we have a
February 26, 2008 - 11:06 ET by BDIn my business we have a saying....
The days before a regime falls they release farcical messages to their public that verge on the comical trying to prove that the regime is still in power and can win through....
Examples in clude Bagdhad Bob saying US troops were not entering Bagdhad and were no-where near as the first M1 tanks cruised by in the background.
Other examples include the Nazi's releasing statements about fictitious divisions attacking towards Berlin to save Hitler.
It seems this applies to politics as well since Hillary's latest pressers have taken on a similar comical air of desperation.
More off air video
February 26, 2008 - 11:10 ET by balboaI love this stuff:
http://gawker.com/36...
Cheating at Chapel Hill HS
February 26, 2008 - 11:15 ET by ricklailI have always said that if NC needed an enima they would put the hose in in Chapel Hill. Well this story from the Raleigh N & O exposes a big cheating scandal there. Chapel Hill HS is without a doubt the most liberal HS in NC. Since this has been going on for years it makes one wonder if the so called high scores are for real.
If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard
rick
February 26, 2008 - 11:33 ET by candanceI don't even consider Raleigh/Durham to be a part of NC with all the Yankees who are raising their kids around there.
That's why the letters in
February 26, 2008 - 12:25 ET by Chris NormanThat's why the letters in Raleigh's suburb of "Cary" are said to stand for "Containment Area for Relocated Yankees". :)
ROFL Chris
February 26, 2008 - 13:12 ET by candanceI hadn't heard that before, but it sure fits!
I have a friend of mine who grew up in New York and bought a bunch of land in eastern Tennessee. She showed up there all willing to play the hillbilly to get along with her neighbors. Of course there is nothing more ridiculous than a Yankee pretending to be a hillbilly, so her neighbors turned resentful real fast. Then she comes crying to me because she doesn't understand what went wrong.
I tried to explain what incoming Yankees do to a southern state - inflating property values, laying more freeways, building mansions on the once quiet landscape...and you can't compensate by patronizing the redneck culture.
She still didn't understand the problem and decided that people in Tennessee are mean.
I was originally a
February 26, 2008 - 14:25 ET by Chris NormanI was originally a southerner (with some of my original accent intact), so when I moved back, I didn't experience the chill of being an outsider. I used to joke with my local friends that it wasn't "Southern Hospitality", but "Southern Hostility". Now, I live in the Demilitatized Zone of New Mexico.
This goes on to some extent
February 26, 2008 - 11:49 ET by sunandsteelThis goes on to some extent at every high school in America. Got to get the grades to get into Big Time University, no wonder there are so many idiots in college now, they never learned anything in high school.
What doesn’t kill you, only makes you pissed off. -Children of Bodom
Sun
February 26, 2008 - 13:59 ET by ricklailDo you read the article? This was different than jsut passing notes. They had a master key that got them into each teachers office/room after hours. This had gone on for years. Must have been some type of honor to be presented the key by a graduating senoir.
If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard
Conservatives...there is still Hope!
February 26, 2008 - 11:17 ET by vrwc13"In the Republican primary race, the latest Reuters/Zogby poll shows that McCain enjoys a big 47% to 32% lead over rival Mike Huckabee of Arkansas.
***But despite a big lead in the delegate race and many endorsements from top-drawer GOP leaders, a significant chunk of conservatives do not yet appear ready to jump on to the McCain bandwagon. Among mainline conservatives, McCain leads Huckabee, 48% to 33%.
***Another 16% of conservatives said they either favored another candidate or were uncertain about whom to support, while Congressman Ron Paul won 3% backing from conservatives. (if you take that 16% and add it to the above 33% you get 49% versus McCain's 48%!)
***Among those who described themselves as "very conservative," Huckabee leads McCain by a 51% to 29% margin." (with 20% unaccounted for here too!)
http://www.newsmax.c...
...maybe the "miracle man" from Hope still has some...
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remember the Alamo Texas! - Huckabee/Hunter '08
Add to that McCain probably can't spend anymore of his own money
February 27, 2008 - 19:53 ET by BritcomThe campaign finance law he helped create is now biting him in the ass.
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Huckabee/Hunter '08
Mob Money. Is John Sidney McCain a Mafia Kingpin? If Elected Will He Be America's 'Putin'?
Could be Brit...the panel
February 27, 2008 - 20:04 ET by bigtimerCould be Brit...the panel on the FEC also has been held up with an officer on there from Obama I think, he has stooped it with a hold or some such...or so I heard...
Nevertheless...McCain is reaping what he has sown.
Why hasn't Hillary used
February 26, 2008 - 11:18 ET by AgnosticWhy hasn't Hillary used Obama's own words against him if she has truly begun planning the race card? Ex:
“I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites,” he wrote.
"It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.” - good role models but only for blacks?
“certain whites could be excluded from the general category of our distrust.” - I wonder who those whites could be (he is talking about his mother in this quote)?
“It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.” - Ah! College life.
“that ghostly figure that haunted black dreams.” White people are so scary I wonder what Senator Obama would do to make himself feel safe?
“white people — some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives.” - the opines of the potential next POUS.
link (don't know how to do it properly)
Link
February 26, 2008 - 15:00 ET by ChaitealoverIt helps if you can have both the NB comment page and the page to which you want to link open in different tabs or windows.
To add the link to your comment, highlight its address, right click, select 'copy,' then go back to the comment you are writing, right click and select 'paste.'
The thing I can't figure out is how some people can add a link, but call it something else, like when they say the information is "here."
Chai
“...Bury me on my face,” said Diogenes; and when he was asked why, he replied, “Because in a little while everything will be turned upside down.”
Agnostic and Chaitealover:
February 26, 2008 - 15:19 ET by motherbeltHere's how I do a link:
Open the webpage you want to link to in a new window or new tab and copy the entire URL.
In you NB post, Highlight a word or two that you want to associate with the link. Click on the "link" in the format bar below (Last one on the right, it will light up) and small link box will pop up. Paste the copied URL into the "link URL" box by clicking paste, or Ctrl-V if "paste" is not an option. Then click insert. The words you highlighted will be underlined in your comment, and when you "post" the comment, the words will be in red, and the link will work.
Hope this helps.
Thanks, MB
February 26, 2008 - 15:32 ET by ChaitealoverChai
“...Bury me on my face,” said Diogenes; and when he was asked why, he replied, “Because in a little while everything will be turned upside down.”
Tired of politics? Here's something different...
February 26, 2008 - 11:24 ET by Indiana JoeOkay, many towns and cities now have laws requiring smoke detectors and/or CO monitors in private homes. How can this be enforced? Would the police need a search warrant to come into your home and inspect these devices, to verify one actually had them? What would be their probable cause to have one issued?
I ask because a friend mentioned that they needed to arrange to have someone at their home for an inspection by the fire department for these devices. Now, the home is a condo, so I can understand the other tenants having cause to make sure there was fire protection in place. But a CO monitor? If it is indeed for "insurance purposes," as stated, why can't an insu