Open Thread

By NB Staff | December 1, 2007 - 11:09 ET

For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point:

Republicans are significantly more likely than Democrats or independents to rate their mental health as excellent, according to data from the last four November Gallup Health and Healthcare polls. Fifty-eight percent of Republicans report having excellent mental health, compared to 43% of independents and 38% of Democrats. This relationship between party identification and reports of excellent mental health persists even within categories of income, age, gender, church attendance, and education.

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Which is cause and which is effect?

Democrats

It has long been said that liberalism is a mental disease -- this survey just validates the anecdotal evidence.

So, I'm happy and sane means

I'm a republican? Turns out - that works for me! I'm wondering too - is this a PROOF of Bush Derangment syndrom??
and now off topic - speaking of work, I'm out of - seems my point that NJ govt should cut spending came back to bit the non-profit I worked for, and the funding was cut - immediately. pm's accepted regarding NJ possibilities.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Only that it proves that Democrats have been successful

in creating a victim class....or that they've been successful in playing to those who see themselves as victims....probably a little of each.

Hmmmm...

Perhaps the NIH should look into putting liberalism on their list of symptoms of mental illness? Or maybe the WHO could list working for liberal issues as a "likely cause" of mental illness?



The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Fred08.com

Couldn't get this out of my mind

Yesterday there was some lively discussion about Hillary going to Rick Warren’s “church.” Couldn't get this out of my mind last night. Sometimes when things don’t make sense God will show you. Well this passage from II Timothy 4 kept running through my head so I read and reread and reread it.

3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Paul was writing to Timothy, a young minister. He warns Timothy as well as us about this time that will come “when they will not endure sound doctrine.” What is the doctrine of many so called preachers today? Health and wealth or the prosperity doctrine. This is dangerous. It plays out in many of these mega emerging churches. The Bible is no longer used. It comes down to you doing what you “feel” is right. Faith in what Jesus did at Calvary or His propitiation is no longer the only way to salvation. They have turned way from the truth and are following fables-false accounts.

 The Church, the Spirit filled body of believers, will withstand the gates of hell. The church , those groups meeting socially, will fail.  

 

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't.” General George S. Patton.

It's the "Pelosi is my leader".....syndrome

I find that interesting.....a new insight into mental stability.

If I was supporting Pelosi, I would be Questioning my Mental state daily.

Looking at the lack of Experience of the Democratic Candidates, and I was a Democrat....again, I would be Questioning my mental state.

BDS, has certainly running rampant for years.....and winning in Iraq may be pushing some over the Edge....

Bush is driving them Crazy, and for some, it's a very short Drive.

JT...Pelosi is Murtha's Leader

Murtha:  The Surge is working.

Pelosi:   Hey idiot, get with the program

Murtha:  We need to redeploy.

Visual....priceless.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Blonde.....Yep, Murtha had to be reeled in by Pelosi

But for a Brief MSM moment there, Murtha went outta Control, and gave good news on the War.   Murtha went to Iraq, and came back a changed politician...the writing is on the wall......

By summer Iraq Oil production will Boom, and Gas prices will be supporting the IRaq War decision.....War for Oil will suddenly have new meaning to the Dems. 

I think Senator Reid is in Hiding............  

Speaking of Mental Health

FBI doubles number of mentally ill people banned from owning guns

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

This poll is not

complimentary to Independants, and well, the more Rinos appear the more independant I am.

I wonder if they have a survey on conservative/liberal?

GoHunter08

Can't beat 'em??

Change the rules & then threaten violence!! (IOW, I'm not all that impressed with the mental health of our esteemed "leadership" at the moment.)
JMR

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Sarc

Isn't that more like "Can't beat 'em ----- beat 'em"  ?

GoHunter08

I was still amazed

That they let people vote more than one time. Ron Paul lost 2 votes I'd purchased because of it, not that they'd have mattered. The "official" local party's table had the only evidence I saw of any support for Rudy, too, so hearing this wasn't THAT much of a shocker, but it's still annoying to see dirty pool...
JMR

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Ron Paul lost 2 votes I'd purchased

say what??

you're buying votes now?  what's a vote cost these days, bottle of Ripple or Thunderbird?

GoHunter08

As an accused-therefore-convicted "spammer"

I just assumed it would be a one person one vote election. Silly me!! I had one ticket with me, so I voted once. The relative size of the crowds told the story, and at least the guy who threatened violence was sensible & 'brave' enough to make his threat to an old lady...
JMR

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buying votes

If I were a Democrat it would be tequila.

No one had to do a poll to

No one had to do a poll to prove this to me. All our liberal
friends are truly nuts here in Austin. Austin is turning into the
San Francisco of Texas and its a shame. They all talk about how
much they HATE Bush???? I dont get it. But, we just say..."Know
you know how we felt for 8 years of Clinton". and that reallly
surprises them. They think everyone loved Billy boy. Its funny.
But we never let it get to us the way the mental liberal are today.

MOM

Москва На Колорадо

Um, TURNING into the San Francisco of Texas, you say???

I, for one, don't call it Москва На Колорадо for nothing... 

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

As well as being mentally

As well as being mentally stable, conservatives are also more generous than liberals.

Studies show that in all income brackets, conservatives donate far more to charity than liberals.  Both in time and in money.

So basically, I think this tells us that liberals are miserly nutcases. But we all knew that didn't we?

Check out my exclusive edit of BBC News America's interview with Mrs Clinton: It's news to me!

And in the end

A math teacher once told me if one quits they lose.

The character of fight and determination result in something liberalism detests, achievement. Conservatives know they can accomplish anything and as such realize anyone can do the same.

Why wouldn't our attitudes and perspective be healthier?

JDW

Sen Clinton: Distinguished Founder of Media Matters

 

The gold standard

A short history of something your highschool's history books no-doubt didn't cover.
JMR

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CRUISE BOAT SPILL PUTS PENGUINS AT RISK

Turns out that the "environmental" cruise boat MS Explorer spill may be more devastating to marine life than the Exxon Valdez....but don't look to the MSM to publicize that fact.

Apparently, the spill is surrounded by "important breeding grounds for Antartic and Adelia penguins, and the largest mating colony for Papua penguins" (which are migrating through the area at this time).

The spill will likely also affect "sea lions, seals, sea birds, fish, krill algae and plankton colonies - key elements of the Antartic food chain."

The spill has not dissapated because it's surrounding by ice packs, and bad weather keeps crews from beginning a cleanup.

Anyone think we'll hear about the scope of the disaster created by the pleasure cruise of a few feel-good environmentalists?

What have penguins ever

What have penguins ever done for me or mankind?

You can't eat them. And they can't even fly -- stoopid birds.

 

Check out my exclusive edit of BBC News America's interview with Mrs Clinton: It's news to me!

You have...

marinate them in some John Boy and Billy grillin' sauce, chopped oninons and some chili pepper powder.....

"You're either part of the solution or part of the problem"

Mmmm, yummy Sua  But

Mmmm, yummy Sua

 But that's a piquant recipe to make most things taste good I suspect!

Even Soylent Green. Just to remind you Soylent Green is People!

Check out my exclusive edit of BBC News America's interview with Mrs Clinton: It's news to me!

Penguins' value

What have penguins done for anybody?  Based on the number of penguin themed knick-knacks at my mom's place, especially this time of year, they're great for the economy! 

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

You are right about the

You are right about the economy. My 1 year old granddaughter had a penguin suit for Halloween. We just bought her a Happy Feet penguin for Christmas and my wife saw some penguin shaped candy last night an bought a bunch of that. I think it all stemmed from the March of the Penguins movies.

 

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't.” General George S. Patton.

Mohammed the Penguin?

rick -- whatever you do... DO NOT let your granddaughter call her stuffed penguin 'Mohammed.'

Don't want her spending time in the pokey.

Check out my exclusive edit of BBC News America's interview with Mrs Clinton: It's news to me!

nk -- clearly I have

nk -- clearly I have mis-maligned our feathered friend the Penguin.

I apologize to this ornithological wonder of the South Pole. But don't blame me when they turn carnivorous.

Check out my exclusive edit of BBC News America's interview with Mrs Clinton: It's news to me!

Ummm... Jack?  Penguins

Ummm... Jack?  Penguins are carnivorous.  They eat fish - the other other other white meat. 

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

Well, Jackson, the Penguins

Well, Jackson, the Penguins won two Stanley Cups in the 1990's and drafted two of the greatest hockey players ever: Mario Lemieux & Sidney Crosby...

 

ha ha shrubbo...  damn you

ha ha shrubbo...  damn you and your rainman sporting stats.

Check out my exclusive edit of BBC News America's interview with Mrs Clinton: It's news to me!

Killing Off Conservatives

I normally get excited by the exercises carried out by those that enjoy the game of politics, and I would normally comment on the open thread starter question, but I have reached a point where I am losing interest in the day to day battles. Over the last couple of years I (and most of you) have seen small cracks in Conservatism that I thought I would never see. These cracks over time have turned into huge gaping holes and the only ones I blame at the moment are RINOS. 

So to all RINOS and RINO supporters, I say... shame on you! 

We have one more chance in the upcoming election. If you still consider your self a true Conservative do not help the other side by putting a knife through the heart of what Ronald Reagan started.

Even Rush understands who the real Conservative is in the present crop of contenders. If you can't trust Rush's judgement, who can you trust..... a RINO?

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Clear Think....sometimes you have to make a Choice

Is it Pelosi, or a Rhino......Is it Rudy, or is it Hillary  ?

You don't always get what you want, but you get what you need.   We need a winner.......after that we can call and shut down the Congressional switchboard like we shut down the Amnesty Bill in Congress.

 

 

Sorry JayTee.... That

Sorry JayTee....

That just doesn't cut it. All top 5 could beat Hillary, so why not get the best one of the bunch?

And you can still be proud of your vote. 

"Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/ Rush then stated that the conservative was Fred Thompson.

I'll vote for Fred ..Clear Thinker...

I want the most experienced.....something the Dems don't seem to have.

It's a hard cruel world out there.....hopefully Hillary will find that out.....by Losing to Hussein Osama Obama. 

 

I'd prefer to see a poll on

I'd prefer to see a poll on conservative and liberal, or even broken down issue by issue, even better.

I'm really a fiscal libertarian and social conservative.......AMERICAN......not Republican, not Democrat, not "of a political party."

I would like to be even happier than I am. One way would be to take me off the Social Security payroll deduction and let me keep that percentage, give me back all I've paid in (MY OH MY how much that money could have made me over the years if I had been able to invest it myself instead of having it seized against my will), and raise my salary by the percentage that my employer pays into it. Much more could be, but that's a good start!

Right Charlietexas

Right on, Charlie. It never even occurred to "liberals" that they could get back what they've dished out for the last four decades in America. They're shocked that our country has become so divided simply because people aren't going to take their garbage any longer. The "sensitive", "tolerant" hypocrites found out that it was the conservatives who were simply being tolerant of their ignorance and stupidity. No more!

BTW, some jerky little "business correspondent" called President Bush a "monkey" on Scarborough yesterday. My family wrote to him and her. Try calling Hillary a name. They'd go crazy ( which we know they are, anyway). 

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

School Newsletter Omits Christmas from December 'Important Dates

Anyone want to bet that this was intentional? The school is now saying Christmas was "overlooked", and "inadvertently" left off. But here's what was included within the important dates: Hanukkah, Human Rights Day, winter break, the Islamic holy day Eid al-Adha, first day of winter and Kwanzaa.

No Christmas? "It was absolutely an error of omission," district spokeswoman Terren Roloff said. "In our efforts to be inclusive, we missed the obvious." Way to go, Spokane.

Now, I'm waiting for the ACLU to get into the act when Christmas is added back to the list. Takers on this bet, anyone?

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Americans are inventive and

Americans are inventive and self- reliant

Therefore we should support the nanny-state party?

GoHunter08

Oil


AP
- Venezuela's Chavez says no oil if U.S. tries to meddle in vote

President Hugo Chavez urged supporters to approve constitutional changes that he said could keep him in power for life and threatened to cut off oil exports to the United States if it tries to meddle in Sunday's vote. ...

Conservatives do not sit and watch such occurrences. Libs hope for disaster.

JDW

Sen Clinton: Distinguished Founder of Media Matters

 

Chavez

If Chavez wants to cut off oil exports to the United States....

...LET HIM!

Because the oil coming from Venezuela is not the easiest in the world to refine.  For Venezuela to get it refined, it has two options:

1) Send it to nearby Caribbean islands so equipped to refine it, and 2) send it to the United States where it is so equipped to refine it. 

Some time back, Chavez wanted to send his oil to China. Problem was (still is), according to The Economist, China is not equipped to refine the oil from Venezuela.  It CAN get there, but it won't get there overnight.

Also, Chavez is further screwing himself (and Venezuelans) by using a once-competent, efficient, and most important, knowledgeable PDVSA and turning it into his own patronage machine.  In so becoming, its best experts and field managers were forced out in favor of political hacks, with possibly irreversable consequences to Venezuela's oil fields...which require tons of TLC to be productive. 

What an idiot. 

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

Not only that Unsane, but

Not only that Unsane, but try getting paid by this govt. I work with an oilfield supply company here in San Antonio, and we have a terrible time getting paid for supplies we send to Venezuela. Back when a coup was "feared" a few months back, we thought a couple of high dollar shipments would never be paid for.

As for their oil, if we would drill here, we would probably be able to tell him to go F@#k himself. Besides, it is my understanding that Mexico has more oil than Venezuela anyway, and they aren't about to try any funny business when it comes to supplying us, lest the border be shut down for good.

Early Christmas present for

Early Christmas present for someone who cares (or doesn't)...about Hillary!

It'll put the smile on your face.

Good news for the 9th Circuit.

sarcasmo's favorite Federal Judge Alex Kozinski (no, I don't agree with AK on everything, but he's awesome anyway) just got promoted. "One step left!" ;)

Seriously good facts in the article. He's Reagan's best appointment, I'm even-more convinced than before. The proof is in both his good humor and the number of his clerks who go-on to clerk for the Supremes (it's almost a flappin' minor-league in there, and I never knew it!). And for those who'd object to the idea of him corresponding with a death row inmate, I can tell you from personal experience that this Judge is willing to correspond with all sorts of people on all kinds of topics. Some of it will no doubt come up if/when he's nominated to the Supremes, and I'll be furious. He's a very good man, and a great libertarian legal intellect.
JMR

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More Global Warming problems?????

From Newsmax: 

"The National Weather Service posted winter storm and ice warnings across Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, the eastern Dakotas and northern Michigan. Accumulations of 6 inches to 16 inches of snow were forecast in parts of Minnesota.

 

Much of Iowa was hit with snow, sleet and freezing rain. "

Uh oh!

Darn it, Al Gore!  I had already stocked up on sunscreen for the impending warmest winter ever!

Eight below here yesterday

Eight below here yesterday morning...warming up now getting ready for about one to two feet of snow through Mon.

Yup...I really like this Global Warming of algores.

Runway closed

Yeah, MBill, a plane ran off the runway and they had to close the Des Moines airport. It's that warm snow -- tricky stuff, hard to maneuver in. Not at all like the old-fashioned pre-GW cold snow that everyone is used to.

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Pander Fest

Amazing, isn't it?  Des Moines has a nasty ice storm, and yet the Dems braved the elements to turn out for tonight's Black and Brown Presidential Forum and pander fest.

Isn't there something vaguely racist about a Black and Brown forum?  If there was a forum to address the concerns of white people, they'd certainly call that racist. 

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

So SIXTY TWO percent of

So SIXTY TWO percent of Democrats KNOW that they're NUTS???

Drum roll please....

Introducing, the one, the only, профессор правда !!!

http://www.youtube.c...

Wow Cool Karma

PT is a celeb..lol

SHYWEAR

Just wondering if a certain item in my line of Shywear (TM) :p offends anyone.

I was originally only going to do just T-shirts, but you can blame my super-liberal/leftist brother for partially influencing me on doing thong panties. His company did up custom-made boxer briefs to celebrate their 5th Anniversary, with their logo on the front and the tagline "5 years ain't brief" on the back. They handed these out in a box of other trinkets at their hob-nobbing company party.

So, I then found this same manufacturer did all sorts of under-garments... and I could not resist the temptation.

Also, I have a tracker installed on my Shywear page, and this is shedding light on Newsbusters' hits and geographical demographics. In just the first 6 hours, here goes:

United States -- 96.61% (114 visitors)
Canada -- 2.54% (3 visitors)
New Zealand -- 0.85% (1 visitor)

 

Dana Perino and Newsbusters gals will look great in Shywear

(*NB guys, too)

Well, it *did* make me wonder about the

"NB guys too" part. (Haven't you seen any pictures of NB's male cohort? It's not a pretty sight, and I can definitely include myself in that blanket statement!!) 
JMR

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sarc - shywear

Well, while I'm shamelessy slipping self-promotion into the threads, what gave me the idea to do it was the Dana smackdown blog earlier today. Then I realized, wait, these shirts are actually men's shirts (she's just modeling it and rolling it up, making it look like a girl's cut....)

Really, the undies are the only girl-thing... but t-shirts can be worn by both (but there are girl's sleeve-cuts, which I didn't order, stupidly...)

 

Dana Perino and Newsbusters gals will look great in Shywear

(*NB guys, too)

You go Mr Shy. I see

You go Mr Shy. I see nothing wrong with shameless self-publicity. That's capitalism baby.

So long as it tied into incisive liberal bashing as well. As for the Beatles... let it be.. you're talking my home town man.

Strawberry Fields Forever.

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Jack

Strawberry Fields in Central Park is just a 2-minute walk from my place :)

I also just posted a video on the Shywear page, btw...

 

Dana Perino and Newsbusters gals* will look great in Shywear

(*shirts for guys, too)

Fred warns of Welfare State...

Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson said Saturday that election of a Democrat to the White House in 2008 would open the way for a welfare state where bigger government, higher taxes and defense cutbacks sap the country's economic and military strength.

"Our country is at a crossroads," Thompson told several hundred people at a rally at a community clubhouse.



Florida Mayor Rick Baker (L) appears on stage before the CNN/YouTube/Republican Party of Florida presidential debate, as he stands with former U.S. Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN), in St. Petersburg, Florida, November 28, 2007. REUTERS/Scott Audette (UNITED STATES)

"We know that the most liberal element of the Democratic Party has taken control of the Democratic Party, and if they win this next election we're going to go down the road of a welfare state," he said.

After warning of a government that gets "bigger and bigger," he said "I don't think the American people are going to turn the keys to this country over to the most left-wing part of a left-wing party next year."

"We've got to make sure that doesn't happen," he said.

Thompson's speech came on a day when most of his time was devoted to a string of fundraisers.

He never mentioned his Republican rivals in his remarks, but in a GOP race where some candidates have been criticized for shifting positions on conservative touchstone issues, Thompson asserted he is squarely in the Reagan tradition. "Principles don't change, circumstances change," he said.

In an interview published on the Orange County Register Web site, Thompson said he was "pretty much where I thought we'd be" in the polls but stressed that races in early voting states remain volatile.

He hinted he'd have to win South Carolina, or come close to it, to remain competitive.

"I must do pretty well in Iowa. I must do very well in South Carolina. And then once you come South, anybody who's keeping up with any of that knows that I'm ahead most places," Thompson said.

Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/ Rush then stated that the conservative was Fred Thompson.

Next thing you know, the

Next thing you know, the polls will find out that water is wet! :O *gasp*

The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy

What's really been driving oil and gold so high?

[Quote] Is it speculation that drove the oil price above $90 last week, or is there something more fundamental happening..?

Well, as I have argued many times here before, I believe that the
oil price will rise over the medium term due to fundamental factors.
However, the major driver that has pushed WTI futures over $90 and gold
to a 28-year high is much more simple that supply and demand. It is a
basic human emotion. That emotion is fear…

Investors are scared.
They have been moving away from assets that are now seen as risky after
profligate and stupid lending in the US prompted a credit crunch.
Investors, both private and institutional have therefore been seeking
safety.

A Reuters' poll of 15 US-based fund management firms
showed that their allocation to alternative investments such as
commodities jumped from 1% percent in August to 3.2% in September. That
is a significant move. More >>

Source: Money Week

 

Amid debate, grocery chain bans high-fructose corn syrup

There are no Wheat Thins at PCC Natural Markets, no boxes of
Kellogg's Raisin Bran, not even any Sara Lee whole grain bagels or
Oroweat cracked-wheat hot dog buns.

What customers will find is almost unheard of: a supermarket free of products containing high-fructose corn syrup.

After years of winnowing out the ubiquitous sweetener, the
eight-store natural foods co-op announced this week that the rout was
complete. While the science behind the move is still the subject of hot
debate, the scope is unquestioned.

...

After public outcry over health issues such as trans fats in food,
high-fructose corn syrup is taking shape as "the newest health
villain," according to Datamonitor, a business industry analyst with
U.S. headquarters in New York. The sweetener has been targeted on two
grounds in the nation's obesity epidemic. One argument suggests its
cheapness and versatility have encouraged manufacturers to insinuate a
tasty but unhealthful load of empty calories into goods such as
packaged bread. The other, more controversial, argument is that the
biological effects of HFCS are different from those of more natural
sweeteners, particularly that it interferes with the body's ability to
alert the brain when it's time to stop eating.

More >>

Source: Seattle Post-Intelligencer

 

More unwelcome brain news

"...interferes with the body's ability to alert the brain when it's time to stop eating". Great. Just what I need. More stuff to interfere with my brain.

I've already got a set of brain-timers embedded: one to wake up in the morning, one to check the daily NB posts, one to make sure I go to work, and for God's sake, another to make sure I leave work on time.

Over the past few months I've also installed some brain-alert systems. One to catch the slightest nano-degree increase in temperature so's I can e-mail my "hurrahs -- and thanks" to Al Gore; another one to pinch me when it's time to tune into Chris and Oberman; and a third that reminds me to take my "calm-down" medicine whenever I hear that "Cackle" from "You know, the smartest and most experienced woman alive, or who has ever been".

NOW YOU'RE TELLING ME I'VE GOT TO WORRY ABOUT ANOTHER BRAIN FUNCTION?!!@#? I can't take it anymore. I'm gonna go out right now and turn in my metal head plate for a plastic one -- see if I can cut down some on all this interference.
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  It's easy to have less

 

It's easy to have less issues when you believe(brainwashed) into believing this administration is great

 

 

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