By NB Staff (Bio | Archive) Sun, 11/04/2007 - 10:55 ET
For general debate and discussion. Possible talking point: Did you set your clock back this morning, and, maybe more important, is it time to get rid of this silly, semi-annual time shift?
Let's pick a time and stick with it. We live in a 24/7 world now -- if the original intent of Daylight Savings was to conserve energy by having more evening sunshine less electricity use, we've moved past that.
We're working and living 'round the clock, no matter if it's light out or not.
I worked the graveyard shift last night, 13 hours, and sure enough, my relief came in an hour early...he thought he was right on time! Bonus! So at least for last night I liked the time shift..lol
But these days, most of my clocks do all the work for me, and if I were to change things I'd mess them up! :) And check out the hilarious Fred-ad parody on YouTube.
JMR
I didn't remember until I came downstairs this AM...I don't know what triggered it, but I got it done. And I would be in favor of scrapping it.
And since the subject of HRC as the victim seems to hang around, I found this interesting this morning from Kevin McCullough at Townhall.com.
He mentions that HRC's numbers went up after she was portrayed as being "ganged-up on", and that the real goodies were not in her answer, but in her shifty behavior while she answered. He'll have you going back and looking at the video again, and you'll see what he means.
When NC first started going to DST I heard a lot of the old farmers around where I grew up call it Damn Democrat time. It didn't matter to them. They were up at 4 to start milking and ready for bed around 8. The sun not setting to around 9 messed that up. I can't see how it saves engery. My wife gets up at 5 to go drive her school bus. It is dark so she has to have lights. I get up at six and it is still dark.
Did anybody happen to catch the report about more pedestrian deaths because of DST? Where do they get such stuff? Maybe I can see that with schools buses picking up kids while it is still dark.
If I remember it correctly, the sporting and entertainment fields were the groups that fought hardest for DST....in order to increase sales and participation in their industries.
Personally, I've always disliked DST because, first, it disrupts our normal biological clocks (watch how long it takes kids to adapt each time) and, second, because I miss the old long summer evenings.
The dairy farmers didn't like it where I grew up. Because they had to get up so early they wanted to go bed early. Most of them could not sleep in the light. In June, during DST, it would stay light until about 9 to 9:15. That is why they called it Damn Democrat time. The Democrats controlled NC. The big money in farming was in tobacco. That was grown mostly in the east. The tobacco farmers didn't have to get up at 4 to start milking.
You're right on, RJ. For the farmers? My gluteus maximus it is. Hey, bureaucrats, I have a news flash for you: neither cows nor chickens nor hogs nor any other livestock have wrist watches, so they don't care what time it is. And, if you disturb their schedules, they tend to get cranky. Seeds and plants don't care what time it is, either. They respond to the sun, not to some government fool. And, many farmers work sunrise to sunset (on a short day). During harvest, they'll work from before sunrise to after sunset in order to get crops in before they ruin. Been there, done that.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
I don't know if you listen to Sporting New Radio or not. Tomorrow night you need to call the Arnie Spanier show between 7 and 10 and let him have it. He predicted that Vandy would beat the Gators. He said the 16 points didn't matter. Didn't it end up Gators by 25? The number is 800-777-2907.
I don't listen to this guy, but I just may have to tomorrow.
Yesterday was homecoming. I would venture to guess the last time we lost a homecoming game was my freshman year in G'ville. We were "ooooh, ten and one" that year.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Luckily, I changed my clocks last night. I was up late, watching football and post-game, so it was nice to realize I was going to bed at a more reasonable time.
I believe it doesn't make sense to go to DST in the Spring. Perhaps, it was justified during the war (WWI) because there were a lot of facilities that didn't have electricity, but now it makes little sense. Obviously, you can justify anything, however I would love those who claim this saves energy and is good for the economy, to justify it with real facts. The only way to know for sure would be to not do it for a few years and see if there's a difference.
Democrats: Specializing in "high tech lynching" since 1987.
if they do change it they need to keep DST all year who needs the sun up at 4:30 in the summer? Especially since my day gets adjusted to sun-hours; i don't want to start at 5am (6 is early enough)
Don't forget, Blonde, to visit Peyton's house, you have to drive down No Heisman Avenue, and turn left onto I Am Florida's B!#$h Drive. Can't miss it. :-)
Historically speaking, they don't mean quite so much in the pro ranks...sorta like walking through your college campus your freshman year with your HS letter jacket...
I made some comments about the 101st the other week. Yesterday I bought a CD with songs from the 60's and 70's that include a DVD on the 1st CAV in Vietnam. I didn't know that it was the 101st that took and secured highway 19 so the Airmobile CAV could establish their first base in Nam. The 101st was moving so fast they got too far ahead of their artillery. The Air Cav came in to give them the first support by copters so they could keep trucking. This was in September of 65. That is what the movie We Were Soldiers is about. I went in the Army in May 69. Nam didn't really hit home to me until I attended the funeral of the co-captain of our 1967 football team in Nov of 69 who had been killed in action.
I'm very curious as to what the NB community will think of this story which is apparently becoming a hot issue around Boston, where I recently relocated.
I'm not a diehard anti-WalMart type, but I do think there's something sort of obscene about the #1 retailer in the country invoking the rhetoric of victimhood and trying to build this grassroots support network. I mean, obviously they're going to try whatever means necessary to keep those boxstores popping up all over the landscape, but this tactic of rallying loyal customers through the idea that they're being oppressed or something is just ludicrous.
Thoughts?
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
just as the anti-Walmart socialists sponser legislation to oppose my right to free-association in where i choose to spend my money; Wal-mart has a right to protect it's business interest.
I think the real question is how does anyone justify banning stores based on size?
I don't see any problem with a community coming together and rallying the support of their elected representations to say "No, we don't want that here; it's ugly, it will mess up our generations-old businesses, and they persecute those who even think of the U-word." Surely people have the right to do that. And surely WalMart has the right to retaliate in its typical way, but I do think that this little army it's putting together is just depressing; how sad to think that one's top priority, the thing they are willing to devote time and energy to, is telling another community that they'd better allow WalMart in. And again, hearing the million-dollar-salary spokepeople adopt this posture of victimization is laugh-out-loud ironic.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
you claim that when one group does it it's okay but if another group does it it is not okay. How is that not hypocrasy? (just as John Edwards is on TV talking about hedge-fund loopholes)
Wow. I explicitly said that it is OK. That they have every right to do what they want to get those boxstores built. God knows there aren't enough, after all.
My point is that, similarly to how NB derides the MsM's rhetoric and claim to objectivity, I feel compelled to deride WalMart's posture as some sort of victim or champion of consumer choice. They have had nothing but spectacular success in the business world, but that doesn't mean they should have a free pass in every single community or on every single issue. My other point is that I find it massively depressing that people who like WalMart think this is an issue that they should volunteer their time for. Like they owe something to this retail behemoth.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
I do think that this little army it's putting together is just depressing; how sad to think so you think sad and depressing is okay? Is not that a tad contradictory?
And again if it is sad that people choose to volunteer their time for Walmart why is it not equally sad that people volunteer their time against Walmart
It's also sad and depressing that people choose music based on who won American Idol, have brand loyalty to, say, Budweiser over Miller (hint: it's all watered-down swill), and watch Hollywood movies. Doesn't make these things morally wrong or illegal, they're just depressing.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
I imagine Florida this time of year would be nice. I used to visit my grandmother there in April and/or July and my New England blood did not like that climate one bit. The sun's out in Boston but I'm considering turning on the heat.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Haven't had but about three days of open windows. Got the heat on now. North wind blowing. We have gone from summer to mid-fall quickly. But the sky is clear and a beautiful deep CAROLINA Blue.
Jason, you are beginning to sound like Marvin the paranoid android. Tell me, do the diodes down your left side hurt? Shall I tell you what happens when you encounter the robotic agents from the Krikkit wars? Lighten up, guy.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
How does this discussion topic even remotely qualify as paranoia?
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
You'll be pleased to know I've never stepped foot in Walmart (okay...I have been in a Walmart Garden Center, I was NOT impressed).
The point is that Walmart has been denied permitting, etc., just because they're Walmart and certain pols are idealogically anti-Walmart.
If a community doesn't want a Walmart, fine. But when it's the pols who do the put-down on their own, not so bloody fast.
Therein lies the diff.
You are free to deride them for whatever reason you choose. I care not to do so. Doesn't mean I'm going to shop there. But I will defend Walmart's right to do business where they choose without political interference.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
That political opposition is worthless if a community's constituents aren't behind it. If they want a box store in their community, and WalMart is considering building one, they'll get it.
BOTG, I think there's a big difference, on the "depressing" angle between people who are volunteering their time for WalMart to help them build stores in other communities, and viewing themselves as being David to the oppostion's Goliath, and those who band together to retain the small businesses and independent economy of their town. The former is mobilized to do WalMart's dirty work for them, the jobs their lawyers ought to be doing. The latter is fighting for civic pride and against what amounts to an economic invasion.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
The latter is fighting for civic pride and against what amounts to an economic invasion. that assertion is a crock, we in San Marcos had a Walmart controversy the opposition was rallied from where? Carlsbad.
Come up with realities not some idealistic make-believe
I don't know where those places are, so I'm not sure what your point is. If it's merely that anti-WalMart activists are shipped in from other places to rally against one being built in a community that doesn't affect them, well yes, that's not exactly ideal is it. But my previous statement, which you were good enough to embolden in your post, still stands. There's a long tradition of people who actually live in a community trying to keep WalMart out and securing the help of their elected officials to do so. That's how it's supposed to work. And usually, they fail and the store gets built. My point is that there may be growing anti-WalMart sentiment in the country, but it's pretty ridiculous for that particular corporation to act like it doesn't get its way 95% of the time. I do not see their fight as a glorious free market rights struggle against some powerful cabal of anti-WalMart activists, but that's how they seem to be framing it.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
it is a real-life example which contradicts your assertion.
I believe the true opposition to Walmart comes from city councils who are beholden to the Union leadership (as happened in San Diego last year). It is a power-play by the unions to syphon 5% off Walmart salaries (and you are their acting dupe)
I'm not much of a dupe, I bought salad tongs there last month. It's not WalMart in and of itself I'm arguing about here, it's there ridiculous stance on this issue of community opposition.
Why shouldn't unions pressure politicians to do things? Business leaders do it all the time.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
and yet you provide cover for the advancement of the union goons socialist agenda. My point is; if you are against the reactionary manuevers why not equally oppose the the original offensive?
Jason - If you like Wal-Mart, shop there. If not, don't f#!king shop there.
"Economic invasion", indeed. The Walton family isn't pointing guns at your head and forcing you to shop there. You are still JasonC and you still have your freewill intact.
Personally, I shop there for two reasons: 1) Because they are open 24 hours around these parts (Houston), which is helpful to guys like me who work at night and 2) whining, crybaby Leftists who want to steal from them at all costs.
In Portland, the local wine-and-cheese set throws out all the stops if Wal-Mart tries to site a store. Wal-Mart is so tacky, you know...
Then, they wet themselves when an IKEA goes in -- right next to the airport! Using the same on & off ramps.
The local media drones loved it. They did stories about how traffic on I-205 was backed up in both directions, and when that ran stale, stories about the people who were pissed about missing their flights because of the traffic.
While I would rather Wal-Mart offered a lot more products made in this country and a lot fewer products made in PRC, they do provide a much larger selection of goods than most stores.
Unfortunately, due to incredible short-sightedness on the part of American Labor Unions, too many jobs have relocated overseas, as Labor has priced itself out of the market over here.
The short-sightedness does not stop with labor unions, either. There are many town and city councils afflicted with myopia when it comes to Wal-Mart. Allow me to illustrate.
Once upon a time, in the far off land of Oklahoma, there were three towns: Seminole, Wewoka, and Holdenville. The three towns were all on the same highway, with Wewoka being 12 miles from Seminole, and Holdenville was 6 miles from Wewoka. None of them were large towns, they had similar populations, and they had the same basic economy: petroleum, cattle, and pecans. Farmers around Holdenville also raised peanuts.One day, a representative from Wal-Mart came to Wewoka and said to the city council, "We'd like to build a Wal-Mart store in your town." Now the local merchants knew they couldn't compete with Wal-Mart, and so they told the city council, "We don't want Wal-Mart in our town. We couldn't survive the competition." So, the city council of Wewoka told Wal-Mart to take a hike.
So, the representative from Wal-Mart took a hike...down the highway to Seminole, where the Seminole city council told the Wal-Mart representative that they would welcome a store in their town. Holdenville also told Wal-Mart that they would welcome their store. So, Wal-Mart built stores in Holdenville and in Seminole. Lo and behold, when the stores opened up, the consumers in Wewoka saw that the Wal-Mart stores in Seminole and Holdenville offered a greater variety of goods than were available in Wewoka stores. They also saw that where Wal-Mart stores offered the same items available in Wewoka, the items cost less at Wal-Mart. So, people in Wewoka started driving the 6 or 12 miles necessary to shop at a Wal-Mart store. Soon, the city council of Wewoka noticed that revenues from sales taxes had gone down considerably. There was not enough money to maintain the streets in Wewoka, nor was there enough to maintain and upgrade the water treatment plant, the water distribution system, maintain the police cars and fire trucks, etc., etc. Wewoka tried to attract businesses to the town so as to enhance tax revenues, but when prospective businesses saw the poor roads and infrastructure, they decided to go elsewhere.
Today, Seminole and Holdenville, because they were business friendly and welcoming to competition have grown. They have fairly decent roads and streets, adequate water supply distribution, and fairly effective emergency services. Wewoka, who had prior to Wal-Mart coming to the area had looked down their noses at the other two towns, is now mostly a bedroom community for the city of Seminole. Their largest industry, if it can be called that, is the Welfare department. All this because the city council couldn't see beyond the end of their collective nose.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
The fight in Havelock, NC is not over the new Wal Mart but rather a stop light. Years ago the powers that be in Raleigh decided that there were getting to be too many stoplights on US 70 east. This is the main route from Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill area to the Crystal Coast beaches. In order to put in a stoplight in a new location one must come down somewhere. Wal Mart told the Havelock that they would build a store there if they could get a stoplight. No problem. The town would just move the light from Ketner Blvd. The people there could use the service road on either side to get to the next intersection where there is a stoplight.
If you are not familiar with the area, Havelock is home to MCAS Cherry Point and Fleet Readiness Center East-formerly called NADEP. There is a big market there. Either way the folks went it was about 16 miles to the nearest Wal Mart in New Bern or Newport. The Natives are not mad over Wal Mart. They are mad over the stop light. I want to see if they are mad enough to start sending Republicans to the NC House next time.
By the way, the area is going to grow more over the next few years. The Marine Corps is increasing the squadrons at Cherry Point. Wal Mart had made a wise choice by putting a store there.
Hunter to Romney: Oppose Chinese Purchase of US Defense Contractor 3COM
San Diego, CA - Presidential candidate and current Ranking Member of the House Armed Services Committee, Congressman Duncan Hunter, today called on former Governor Mitt Romney to send a "clear statement" to the leadership of the company he founded, Bain Capital, to terminate a proposed business deal with a controversial Chinese corporation seeking to acquire U.S. defense contractor 3COM.
Bain Capital is attempting to form a business arrangement with Huawei
Corporation, a Chinese corporation founded by an officer of the Peoples
Liberation Army of Communist China, which faces allegations of
assisting Saddam Hussein in the targeting of U.S. aircraft and in
helping the Taliban develop surveillance equipment.
Anyone happen to catch this weekend's episode of "The McLaughlin Group"? Hillary's sister Eleanor Rodham Clift, whose speaking voice is so similar to Hillary's it's scary, was spinning so rapidly her head almost came off. She compared Hillary's debate problems to Bill Clinton's "triangulating" as President.
Eleanor's most hilarious line? "She's a big girl. She can handle it."
And when McLaughlin mentioned the poll showing 50% of those queried would never vote for Hill, Eleanor quoted one poll that said:
"She beats Giuliani by 9 points. That poll is more relevant."
Only problem is, I just went to www.pollingreport.com and could not find a poll showing her beating Rudy by 9 points.
wiwf, a little late but I just got here....yes, it would be 9 hours today for you (it's 6 for me, my son is in Heidelberg) because they are already back on standard time...they came off DST last weekend.
Why not adjust the time 30 minutes and leave it at that all year?
If we clean up or burn off all of the underbrush and dead fuel that has been accumulating for the last century or so, wouldn't we then be able to correct our actions and let less intense forest fires burn and do what they are intended to do now? Then regardless of how the climate changes, the results would be less disastrous. But the hysteria being shouted now about how bad the fires will be in the future due to 'global warming' seems to be ignoring the reality that once the fires consume the dead fuel, it isn't there for a new fire to use! And if droughts are the result of 'GW', new brush will not grow at a fast rate to be dried out and become new fuel. But then there is the confusion over wether GW causes droughts or floods, heat waves or cold snaps, or more or fewer storms, since everything is now blamed on GW.
I saw a portion of hearings on GW by Pete Starkey on C-Span and he had four 'witnesses' giving 'testimony' that simply said the same thing and the smirk on his face spoke volumes about his views about the subject. There appears to be no interest in even hearing any opposing view much less acting with any kind of caution. They are just going to rush headlong into this without any other perspective.
The King Tut exhibit is returning to the U.S. after London. This is a "bonus" tour for us, as the exhibit was supposed to return permanently to Egypt.
I saw this two years ago, it was fabulous. I'd encourage anyone who's close to go see it, it's a once in a lifetime thing (unless you're planning to visit Egypt). The article only mentions Dallas, I'm not sure where else it's going to be this time around. The official tour site only mentions Dallas.
Oh, and if you go, try to get tickets for the first "session" in the morning. It gets totally packed as the day goes on.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
time will tell the Pats have the ball and the lead. As to the Manning klan, after their uppity treatment of the Chargers (and by extension the NFL) during the Eli crapolla may they all lose all their games.
With all the crap that Blonde and myself have been writing about Phat Phil, they may just make it. There was a piece in our local paper last week with Montario Hardesty whinning about his playing time. He is from New Bern. Well boo hoo for him. His bitching to local writers here just turns me more and more against TN. I maybe need to send the articles to Phat Phil. I know he doesn't get the Sun Journal. He would bench him over some of this gripping. Bet he is not doing that in the Knoxville paper.
Just got to watch bonus coverage of the Packers-Chiefs. How bout Brett Farve? I love to watch him. Don't get to see him that much because we are in the Panthers coverage area. They stunk up my TV today. Need a QB bad. I know now why the Texans got rid of Carr. He sucks.
The Thanksgiving game between the Pack and the Lions is shaping up to be more than something to have on in the background while preparing dinner. I'll have watch that one. Could be better than the year that Clint Longley came off the bench in Dallas and beat the snot out of the Skins. Never have been many good games on Thansgiving. The best games are usually the rivalries in college on Friday and Saturday.
Congrats to Brett for being only the 3rd QB to beat all 31 other teams in the NFL.
The Panthers have a decent QB, namely Jake. But injuries happen.
One of the Panthers' NFC South competitors, the New Orleans Saints, just won their 4th game in a row after starting 0-4. Brees had 445 yards of passing, and Reggie Bush had a couple of TDs.
And yes, folks, the New England Patriots are FOR REAL. I'm watching Belichik's press conference right now, and he's low-key and quiet as usual. But he must be happy as a clam, as the Pats now have home field against Indy in the playoffs. Can you say "9-0"?
that this group of referees is prone to calling "pass interference?" I thought for sure that that bogus call against Moss would kill the Pats....but they came back.
I always turn the teevee sound down and listen to the Patriots radio team. That would be play by play legend Gil Santos, who first did Pats games in 1966 (later taking a 10 year break to do Penn State football and NFL play by play for CBS and ABC before returning to the Pats booth for good in 1990). Gil's color guy is Patriots receiver (and also placekicking legend) Gino Cappelletti, who until 2 years ago was the Patriots alltime leading scorer.
PS, I gave up on interpreting pass interference calls many years ago.
That's something I want done when I am President!!!
Imagine, me walking into the U.N. General Assembly in Geneva (where it freaking belongs), for one example, and hearing the Imperial March play as I take the podium as I issue a list of demands, er, points up for negotiation...
"My other point is that I find it massively depressing that people who
like WalMart think this is an issue that they should volunteer their
time for. Like they owe something to this retail behemoth."
Maybe their doing it has nothing to do with WalMart. See, some folks are against wrong-doing period, whether the victim is a homeless guy living in the street, or a multi-billion dollar corporation. Maybe they don't think it's okay to stick it to someone 5 percent of the time just because that same someone may get their way 95 percent of the time. I know I don't. I don't think it's okay to screw people over 5 days out of 100, just because you leave them alone the other 95.
And, maybe, just maybe, some of them are smart enough to know that they're getting screwed too, and they don't like it, especially when the only point for this nonsense is satisfying the wet dreams of yet another wacko environmentalist.
"I'm not a diehard anti-WalMart type, but I do think there's something
sort of obscene about the #1 retailer in the country invoking the
rhetoric of victimhood and trying to build this grassroots support
network."
I think there's something obscene about believing you can't be a victim if you're successful. And why the pretense? Even though you said differently, it's pretty clear that you ARE anti-WalMart(or is it all successful companies?), so why not be honest about it?
From the article:
"Norman estimates 46 Wal-Mart projects were blocked in 2006 and says the
approval process for new stores has slowed considerably. "What used to
be a three-month process is now a three-year process," he said."
Sound familiar to anyone? Yet Jason would have us believe that WalMart is the bad guy here because they won't roll over and take it in the a**, lol. How DARE you, WalMart, encourage your supporters to voice their opinion. Wonder how much extra this extended timeframe costs WalMart? Baaahh, who cares, they've got the money, so it's okay to rip them off for a few million bucks or so.
I recommend you seek help, Jason. Seriously, I do. If you're are so invested in the actions of total strangers who are choosing to devote their time in a cause they believe in that you are driven to "massive" depression over it, WalMart is the least of your problems. And the good thing is, if you can hold on until after 2008, Hillary will pay for it.
Clinton donor wanted by FBI in scheme to funnel money
No NOT Norman Hsu;Rehman Jinnah
Don't remember hearing about this one in the MSM? Neither did I.
Los Angeles Times, March 3, 2007
A Pakistani immigrant who hosted fundraisers in Southern California for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is being sought by the FBI on charges that he funneled illegal contributions to
Clinton’s political action committee and Sen. Barbara Boxer’s 2004
reelection campaign. Authorities say Northridge businessman Abdul
Rehman Jinnah, 56, fled the country after an indictment accused him of
engineering more than $50,000 in illegal donations to the Democratic
committees. A business associate charged as a co-conspirator has
entered a guilty plea and is scheduled to be sentenced in Los Angeles
next week…
Yes, the story includes a photo of Sen. Hillary Clinton standing next to Jinnah.
Presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y.,
has taken thousands of dollars in cash donations from Islamists under
federal investigation for terror-financing, money laundering and tax
fraud...
I found this this afternoon. It took me a few minutes to get through the server, it's a great story. I am very surprised it's not getting any attention.
JDW
Sen Clinton: Distinguished Founder of Media Matters
I'm not at all surprised it isn't getting attention. I will be surprised if it is ever featured on CNN, ABC, NBC, or CBS news. Or in the New York Times, Washington Post, USA Today, San Francisco Chronicle, Los Angeles Times, etc.
Lee T.
U.S. Navy (ret.) / Vancouver, Washington
The history of the race, and each individual's experience, are thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal.-- Mark Twain
We constantly hear Bush is in the 28-35% approval range…some folks
insist its 6 years of libmedia pounding…
I submit about half of his horrid poll numbers are because:
1… He did not act on conservative principles 80%+ of the time
2… He is silent when hammered unfairly by (easily rebutted) liberals
3… He trusted unworthy liberals like Teddy to write bills
4… He backed a dangerous immigration bill
5… He again nosed (as presidents like to do) in education at the
classroom level
6… He appointed (initially) a bad SC choice when there were much better
options
7… He “never sees the punch coming and deflects it”
8… He expects liberals to act civil and reasonable
9… He failed to veto the 6 years congressional pork-a-thon to buy votes
10.. He has few new ideas when there are lots to bring forth (Fair Tax
and others)
11.. He stopped going to the people very much with positions and ideas,
etc… to pressure the dufus Cingress
Bottom line: He has failed for years to gain the consistent support of
conservatives.
Now he is making some fiscal conservative noise about vetoes…where was
your spine for 6 years?
I notice my post moments ago at 5:something am PST shows up as 9:something ET, which would have to be EDT as EST should only be 3 hours ahead of PST. So whatever computer is hosting this apparently didn't set itself to standard time!
Lee T.
U.S. Navy (ret.) / Vancouver, Washington
The history of the race, and each individual's experience, are thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal.-- Mark Twain
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Yes and yes. Let's pick
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 11:01 ET by sublight68Yes and yes.
Let's pick a time and stick with it. We live in a 24/7 world now -- if the original intent of Daylight Savings was to conserve energy by having more evening sunshine less electricity use, we've moved past that.
We're working and living 'round the clock, no matter if it's light out or not.
what don't you understand
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 13:22 ET by Rackie..."it's for the children... blah...blah...blah..."
I worked the graveyard
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 21:57 ET by ConservativeRexI worked the graveyard shift last night, 13 hours, and sure enough, my relief came in an hour early...he thought he was right on time! Bonus! So at least for last night I liked the time shift..lol
Asia and DST
Mon, 11/05/2007 - 09:25 ET by UnsaneIn Japan, South Korea and China, DST is not observed. No changing clocks ever in those countries.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
I'm with getting rid of the time shift
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 11:02 ET by sarcasmoBut these days, most of my clocks do all the work for me, and if I were to change things I'd mess them up! :) And check out the hilarious Fred-ad parody on YouTube.
JMR
Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.
I didn't remember until I
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 11:03 ET by motherbeltI didn't remember until I came downstairs this AM...I don't know what triggered it, but I got it done. And I would be in favor of scrapping it.
And since the subject of HRC as the victim seems to hang around, I found this interesting this morning from Kevin McCullough at Townhall.com.
He mentions that HRC's numbers went up after she was portrayed as being "ganged-up on", and that the real goodies were not in her answer, but in her shifty behavior while she answered. He'll have you going back and looking at the video again, and you'll see what he means.
oooo...
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 14:05 ET by dervishThat article's a downer, but I think he's exactly right. All the hoping around here about it now being over for Hillary is a bit premature.
I know it's a
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 11:03 ET by bobthemanI know it's a shameless plug, but for those who need or want an aggregator of popular links to the latest political buzz... here's your page:
http://politicsofdestruction.com
When NC first started going
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 11:15 ET by ricklailWhen NC first started going to DST I heard a lot of the old farmers around where I grew up call it Damn Democrat time. It didn't matter to them. They were up at 4 to start milking and ready for bed around 8. The sun not setting to around 9 messed that up. I can't see how it saves engery. My wife gets up at 5 to go drive her school bus. It is dark so she has to have lights. I get up at six and it is still dark.
Did anybody happen to catch the report about more pedestrian deaths because of DST? Where do they get such stuff? Maybe I can see that with schools buses picking up kids while it is still dark.
Southern by birth, Tarheel by the grace of God!
I believe it's a myth that DST is for the farmers
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:27 ET by RJIf I remember it correctly, the sporting and entertainment fields were the groups that fought hardest for DST....in order to increase sales and participation in their industries.
Personally, I've always disliked DST because, first, it disrupts our normal biological clocks (watch how long it takes kids to adapt each time) and, second, because I miss the old long summer evenings.
The dairy farmers didn't
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:51 ET by ricklailThe dairy farmers didn't like it where I grew up. Because they had to get up so early they wanted to go bed early. Most of them could not sleep in the light. In June, during DST, it would stay light until about 9 to 9:15. That is why they called it Damn Democrat time. The Democrats controlled NC. The big money in farming was in tobacco. That was grown mostly in the east. The tobacco farmers didn't have to get up at 4 to start milking.
Southern by birth, Tarheel by the grace of God!
You're right on, RJ. For
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 20:31 ET by MikeBYou're right on, RJ. For the farmers? My gluteus maximus it is. Hey, bureaucrats, I have a news flash for you: neither cows nor chickens nor hogs nor any other livestock have wrist watches, so they don't care what time it is. And, if you disturb their schedules, they tend to get cranky. Seeds and plants don't care what time it is, either. They respond to the sun, not to some government fool. And, many farmers work sunrise to sunset (on a short day). During harvest, they'll work from before sunrise to after sunset in order to get crops in before they ruin. Been there, done that.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
DST in AK
Mon, 11/05/2007 - 09:27 ET by UnsaneI have NEVER understood the point of DST in Alaska, yet they have it there as well.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Just for Fun
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 11:23 ET by BlondeHere is something for your amazement and amusement.
I'm sure you all saw the silly "dress your pet" for Halloween pics....well, it appears Dick Cheney has a sense of humor.
Darth Vader & Dave.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Arnie Spanier
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 11:35 ET by ricklailI don't know if you listen to Sporting New Radio or not. Tomorrow night you need to call the Arnie Spanier show between 7 and 10 and let him have it. He predicted that Vandy would beat the Gators. He said the 16 points didn't matter. Didn't it end up Gators by 25? The number is 800-777-2907.
Southern by birth, Tarheel by the grace of God!
Vandy?
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 11:54 ET by BlondeThanks, Rick. That's pretty rich.
I don't listen to this guy, but I just may have to tomorrow.
Yesterday was homecoming. I would venture to guess the last time we lost a homecoming game was my freshman year in G'ville. We were "ooooh, ten and one" that year.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
This is normal time.
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 11:23 ET by pbthinkerLuckily, I changed my clocks last night. I was up late, watching football and post-game, so it was nice to realize I was going to bed at a more reasonable time.
I believe it doesn't make sense to go to DST in the Spring. Perhaps, it was justified during the war (WWI) because there were a lot of facilities that didn't have electricity, but now it makes little sense. Obviously, you can justify anything, however I would love those who claim this saves energy and is good for the economy, to justify it with real facts. The only way to know for sure would be to not do it for a few years and see if there's a difference.
Democrats: Specializing in "high tech lynching" since 1987.
Well, PB
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 11:28 ET by BlondeFor night owls like me, the extra daylight is nice at the end of the day.
But that's just my take on it.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
if they do change it they
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 11:47 ET byif they do change it they need to keep DST all year who needs the sun up at 4:30 in the summer? Especially since my day gets adjusted to sun-hours; i don't want to start at 5am (6 is early enough)
GoHunter08
Timely question
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 11:25 ET by acumenAny Muslim scholars out there - Does sharia law allow peace loving Muslims to beat their wives if they forget to turn back their sundials?
has anyone else noticed
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 11:49 ET byhas anyone else noticed that the time-stamps on the comments haven't been turned back?
GoHunter08
Yep
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 11:51 ET by BlondeAnd I'm feeling smug for not sleeping in until noon, today.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Blonde
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:07 ET bywell the whole world is up early today. What with all the excitement of my Pats game they can't help it.
GoHunter08
B,
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:12 ET by BlondeOh, who are the Pats playing?
Kidding.
I love seeing Peyton get smacked. He never was able to rack up a win against my Gators, you know.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Peyton's House
Mon, 11/05/2007 - 09:30 ET by UnsaneDon't forget, Blonde, to visit Peyton's house, you have to drive down No Heisman Avenue, and turn left onto I Am Florida's B!#$h Drive. Can't miss it. :-)
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
So how's
Mon, 11/05/2007 - 09:35 ET by dervishDanny Wuerffel doing these days, anyway? Heismans make pretty good doorstops, I hear. :)
Heisman trophies and pros
Mon, 11/05/2007 - 09:44 ET by UnsaneHistorically speaking, they don't mean quite so much in the pro ranks...sorta like walking through your college campus your freshman year with your HS letter jacket...
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
101st Airborne
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:20 ET by ricklailI made some comments about the 101st the other week. Yesterday I bought a CD with songs from the 60's and 70's that include a DVD on the 1st CAV in Vietnam. I didn't know that it was the 101st that took and secured highway 19 so the Airmobile CAV could establish their first base in Nam. The 101st was moving so fast they got too far ahead of their artillery. The Air Cav came in to give them the first support by copters so they could keep trucking. This was in September of 65. That is what the movie We Were Soldiers is about. I went in the Army in May 69. Nam didn't really hit home to me until I attended the funeral of the co-captain of our 1967 football team in Nov of 69 who had been killed in action.
Southern by birth, Tarheel by the grace of God!
I'm very curious as to what
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 11:51 ET by JasonCI'm very curious as to what the NB community will think of this story which is apparently becoming a hot issue around Boston, where I recently relocated.
http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2007/11/04/a_human_face_on_a_big...
I'm not a diehard anti-WalMart type, but I do think there's something sort of obscene about the #1 retailer in the country invoking the rhetoric of victimhood and trying to build this grassroots support network. I mean, obviously they're going to try whatever means necessary to keep those boxstores popping up all over the landscape, but this tactic of rallying loyal customers through the idea that they're being oppressed or something is just ludicrous.
Thoughts?
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Jason
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:02 ET by BlondeThis is a spot-on maneuver by Walmart. Interesting, too.
I don't find it to be "obscene". Walmart has been unfairly targeted and denied permits, etc. by many liberal local governments.
I'd file this under "turnabout is fair play".
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
just as the anti-Walmart
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:03 ET byjust as the anti-Walmart socialists sponser legislation to oppose my right to free-association in where i choose to spend my money; Wal-mart has a right to protect it's business interest.
I think the real question is how does anyone justify banning stores based on size?
GoHunter08
I don't see any problem
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:08 ET by JasonCI don't see any problem with a community coming together and rallying the support of their elected representations to say "No, we don't want that here; it's ugly, it will mess up our generations-old businesses, and they persecute those who even think of the U-word." Surely people have the right to do that. And surely WalMart has the right to retaliate in its typical way, but I do think that this little army it's putting together is just depressing; how sad to think that one's top priority, the thing they are willing to devote time and energy to, is telling another community that they'd better allow WalMart in. And again, hearing the million-dollar-salary spokepeople adopt this posture of victimization is laugh-out-loud ironic.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
sauce for the goose
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:13 ET bysauce for the goose Jason.
you claim that when one group does it it's okay but if another group does it it is not okay. How is that not hypocrasy? (just as John Edwards is on TV talking about hedge-fund loopholes)
GoHunter08
Wow. I explicitly said
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:22 ET by JasonCWow. I explicitly said that it is OK. That they have every right to do what they want to get those boxstores built. God knows there aren't enough, after all.
My point is that, similarly to how NB derides the MsM's rhetoric and claim to objectivity, I feel compelled to deride WalMart's posture as some sort of victim or champion of consumer choice. They have had nothing but spectacular success in the business world, but that doesn't mean they should have a free pass in every single community or on every single issue. My other point is that I find it massively depressing that people who like WalMart think this is an issue that they should volunteer their time for. Like they owe something to this retail behemoth.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
I do think that this little
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:29 ET byI do think that this little army it's putting together is just depressing; how sad to think so you think sad and depressing is okay? Is not that a tad contradictory?
And again if it is sad that people choose to volunteer their time for Walmart why is it not equally sad that people volunteer their time against Walmart
GoHunter08
It's also sad and
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:45 ET by JasonCIt's also sad and depressing that people choose music based on who won American Idol, have brand loyalty to, say, Budweiser over Miller (hint: it's all watered-down swill), and watch Hollywood movies. Doesn't make these things morally wrong or illegal, they're just depressing.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Come On, Jason
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:51 ET by BlondeIt's a beautiful day. No worries. :)
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Maybe in Florida it
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:55 ET by JasonCMaybe in Florida it is...
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Jason
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:58 ET by BlondeYes, it is. I opened my windows last nite & turned off the A.C.
Sending you some Florida cheer and light air. And no Walmart, if you don't want one.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
I imagine Florida this time
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 13:02 ET by JasonCI imagine Florida this time of year would be nice. I used to visit my grandmother there in April and/or July and my New England blood did not like that climate one bit. The sun's out in Boston but I'm considering turning on the heat.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Window time
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 17:50 ET by ricklailHaven't had but about three days of open windows. Got the heat on now. North wind blowing. We have gone from summer to mid-fall quickly. But the sky is clear and a beautiful deep CAROLINA Blue.
Southern by birth, Tarheel by the grace of God!
Jason, you are beginning to
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 20:34 ET by MikeBJason, you are beginning to sound like Marvin the paranoid android. Tell me, do the diodes down your left side hurt? Shall I tell you what happens when you encounter the robotic agents from the Krikkit wars? Lighten up, guy.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
How does this discussion
Mon, 11/05/2007 - 07:37 ET by JasonCHow does this discussion topic even remotely qualify as paranoia?
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Well Jason
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:30 ET by BlondeYou'll be pleased to know I've never stepped foot in Walmart (okay...I have been in a Walmart Garden Center, I was NOT impressed).
The point is that Walmart has been denied permitting, etc., just because they're Walmart and certain pols are idealogically anti-Walmart.
If a community doesn't want a Walmart, fine. But when it's the pols who do the put-down on their own, not so bloody fast.
Therein lies the diff.
You are free to deride them for whatever reason you choose. I care not to do so. Doesn't mean I'm going to shop there. But I will defend Walmart's right to do business where they choose without political interference.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
That political opposition
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:42 ET by JasonCThat political opposition is worthless if a community's constituents aren't behind it. If they want a box store in their community, and WalMart is considering building one, they'll get it.
BOTG, I think there's a big difference, on the "depressing" angle between people who are volunteering their time for WalMart to help them build stores in other communities, and viewing themselves as being David to the oppostion's Goliath, and those who band together to retain the small businesses and independent economy of their town. The former is mobilized to do WalMart's dirty work for them, the jobs their lawyers ought to be doing. The latter is fighting for civic pride and against what amounts to an economic invasion.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
The latter is fighting for
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:48 ET byThe latter is fighting for civic pride and against what amounts to an economic invasion. that assertion is a crock, we in San Marcos had a Walmart controversy the opposition was rallied from where? Carlsbad.
Come up with realities not some idealistic make-believe
GoHunter08
I don't know where those
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:55 ET by JasonCI don't know where those places are, so I'm not sure what your point is. If it's merely that anti-WalMart activists are shipped in from other places to rally against one being built in a community that doesn't affect them, well yes, that's not exactly ideal is it. But my previous statement, which you were good enough to embolden in your post, still stands. There's a long tradition of people who actually live in a community trying to keep WalMart out and securing the help of their elected officials to do so. That's how it's supposed to work. And usually, they fail and the store gets built. My point is that there may be growing anti-WalMart sentiment in the country, but it's pretty ridiculous for that particular corporation to act like it doesn't get its way 95% of the time. I do not see their fight as a glorious free market rights struggle against some powerful cabal of anti-WalMart activists, but that's how they seem to be framing it.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Jason
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 13:19 ET byit is a real-life example which contradicts your assertion.
I believe the true opposition to Walmart comes from city councils who are beholden to the Union leadership (as happened in San Diego last year). It is a power-play by the unions to syphon 5% off Walmart salaries (and you are their acting dupe)
GoHunter08
I'm not much of a dupe, I
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 13:26 ET by JasonCI'm not much of a dupe, I bought salad tongs there last month. It's not WalMart in and of itself I'm arguing about here, it's there ridiculous stance on this issue of community opposition.
Why shouldn't unions pressure politicians to do things? Business leaders do it all the time.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
and yet you provide cover
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 13:34 ET byand yet you provide cover for the advancement of the union goons socialist agenda. My point is; if you are against the reactionary manuevers why not equally oppose the the original offensive?
GoHunter08
Wally World
Mon, 11/05/2007 - 09:35 ET by UnsaneJason - If you like Wal-Mart, shop there. If not, don't f#!king shop there.
"Economic invasion", indeed. The Walton family isn't pointing guns at your head and forcing you to shop there. You are still JasonC and you still have your freewill intact.
Personally, I shop there for two reasons: 1) Because they are open 24 hours around these parts (Houston), which is helpful to guys like me who work at night and 2) whining, crybaby Leftists who want to steal from them at all costs.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Not size, image
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 21:55 ET by scamoramaIn Portland, the local wine-and-cheese set throws out all the stops if Wal-Mart tries to site a store. Wal-Mart is so tacky, you know...
Then, they wet themselves when an IKEA goes in -- right next to the airport! Using the same on & off ramps.
The local media drones loved it. They did stories about how traffic on I-205 was backed up in both directions, and when that ran stale, stories about the people who were pissed about missing their flights because of the traffic.
You go, Wal-Mart. While I
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 13:05 ET by MikeBYou go, Wal-Mart.
While I would rather Wal-Mart offered a lot more products made in this country and a lot fewer products made in PRC, they do provide a much larger selection of goods than most stores.
Unfortunately, due to incredible short-sightedness on the part of American Labor Unions, too many jobs have relocated overseas, as Labor has priced itself out of the market over here.
The short-sightedness does not stop with labor unions, either. There are many town and city councils afflicted with myopia when it comes to Wal-Mart. Allow me to illustrate.
Once upon a time, in the far off land of Oklahoma, there were three towns: Seminole, Wewoka, and Holdenville. The three towns were all on the same highway, with Wewoka being 12 miles from Seminole, and Holdenville was 6 miles from Wewoka. None of them were large towns, they had similar populations, and they had the same basic economy: petroleum, cattle, and pecans. Farmers around Holdenville also raised peanuts. One day, a representative from Wal-Mart came to Wewoka and said to the city council, "We'd like to build a Wal-Mart store in your town." Now the local merchants knew they couldn't compete with Wal-Mart, and so they told the city council, "We don't want Wal-Mart in our town. We couldn't survive the competition." So, the city council of Wewoka told Wal-Mart to take a hike.
So, the representative from Wal-Mart took a hike...down the highway to Seminole, where the Seminole city council told the Wal-Mart representative that they would welcome a store in their town. Holdenville also told Wal-Mart that they would welcome their store. So, Wal-Mart built stores in Holdenville and in Seminole. Lo and behold, when the stores opened up, the consumers in Wewoka saw that the Wal-Mart stores in Seminole and Holdenville offered a greater variety of goods than were available in Wewoka stores. They also saw that where Wal-Mart stores offered the same items available in Wewoka, the items cost less at Wal-Mart. So, people in Wewoka started driving the 6 or 12 miles necessary to shop at a Wal-Mart store. Soon, the city council of Wewoka noticed that revenues from sales taxes had gone down considerably. There was not enough money to maintain the streets in Wewoka, nor was there enough to maintain and upgrade the water treatment plant, the water distribution system, maintain the police cars and fire trucks, etc., etc. Wewoka tried to attract businesses to the town so as to enhance tax revenues, but when prospective businesses saw the poor roads and infrastructure, they decided to go elsewhere.
Today, Seminole and Holdenville, because they were business friendly and welcoming to competition have grown. They have fairly decent roads and streets, adequate water supply distribution, and fairly effective emergency services. Wewoka, who had prior to Wal-Mart coming to the area had looked down their noses at the other two towns, is now mostly a bedroom community for the city of Seminole. Their largest industry, if it can be called that, is the Welfare department. All this because the city council couldn't see beyond the end of their collective nose.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
The fight in Havelock, NC
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 16:12 ET by ricklailThe fight in Havelock, NC is not over the new Wal Mart but rather a stop light. Years ago the powers that be in Raleigh decided that there were getting to be too many stoplights on US 70 east. This is the main route from Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill area to the Crystal Coast beaches. In order to put in a stoplight in a new location one must come down somewhere. Wal Mart told the Havelock that they would build a store there if they could get a stoplight. No problem. The town would just move the light from Ketner Blvd. The people there could use the service road on either side to get to the next intersection where there is a stoplight.
If you are not familiar with the area, Havelock is home to MCAS Cherry Point and Fleet Readiness Center East-formerly called NADEP. There is a big market there. Either way the folks went it was about 16 miles to the nearest Wal Mart in New Bern or Newport. The Natives are not mad over Wal Mart. They are mad over the stop light. I want to see if they are mad enough to start sending Republicans to the NC House next time.
By the way, the area is going to grow more over the next few years. The Marine Corps is increasing the squadrons at Cherry Point. Wal Mart had made a wise choice by putting a store there.
Southern by birth, Tarheel by the grace of God!
I didn't see the MSM report on this story...
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 11:55 ET by BritcomHunter to Romney: Oppose Chinese Purchase of US Defense Contractor 3COM
San Diego, CA - Presidential candidate and current Ranking Member of the House Armed Services Committee, Congressman Duncan Hunter, today called on former Governor Mitt Romney to send a "clear statement" to the leadership of the company he founded, Bain Capital, to terminate a proposed business deal with a controversial Chinese corporation seeking to acquire U.S. defense contractor 3COM.
Bain Capital is attempting to form a business arrangement with Huawei
Corporation, a Chinese corporation founded by an officer of the Peoples
Liberation Army of Communist China, which faces allegations of
assisting Saddam Hussein in the targeting of U.S. aircraft and in
helping the Taliban develop surveillance equipment.
More >>
Source: Duncan Hunter Campaign
(emphasis added)
thanks Brit
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:04 ET byi thought of posting this also
GoHunter08
-
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 17:20 ET by dahliatraversThat's not wonderful.
What other candidates have such ties to Chinese money? (Besides Hillary, I mean ...)
< edit: grammar corrected >
McLaughlin Group
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 11:59 ET by Del DolemonteAnyone happen to catch this weekend's episode of "The McLaughlin Group"? Hillary's sister Eleanor Rodham Clift, whose speaking voice is so similar to Hillary's it's scary, was spinning so rapidly her head almost came off. She compared Hillary's debate problems to Bill Clinton's "triangulating" as President.
Eleanor's most hilarious line? "She's a big girl. She can handle it."
And when McLaughlin mentioned the poll showing 50% of those queried would never vote for Hill, Eleanor quoted one poll that said:
"She beats Giuliani by 9 points. That poll is more relevant."
Only problem is, I just went to www.pollingreport.com and could not find a poll showing her beating Rudy by 9 points.
Ok, so Germany was 8 hours
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:08 ET by wiwfOk, so Germany was 8 hours ahead yesterday. Does that make it 9 hours ahead today?
I don't know what to think about DST. If that's the worst the government is doing to interfere with our lives, I'll take it.
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
wiwf, a little late but I
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 20:35 ET by motherbeltwiwf, a little late but I just got here....yes, it would be 9 hours today for you (it's 6 for me, my son is in Heidelberg) because they are already back on standard time...they came off DST last weekend.
VOTE Now
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:48 ET by BlondeDon't forget to vote today for NB, PJ & Tom Blumer on the 2007 Weblog awards.
I'm going to pretend to be a dem today, and fire up another computer to vote again.
NB should have thousands of votes by now, and we don't. :(
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
The voting link is just
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 12:52 ET byThe voting link is just under the Newsbusted video
Vote early vote often and as Blonde says with multiple votes NB should have at least 2000 votes by now
GoHunter08
-
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 13:07 ET by dahliatraversThanks, Botg. You just click on the circle to the left of Newsbusters, is that right? No need to click an enter/submit button someplace?
Also, it looks like we can vote every 24 hours from the same computer.
yes D
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 13:23 ET byfrom now until Nov 8 (that's 5 votes each)
There are currently 52 users and 1432 guests online. (1484 x 5 = 7420 votes)
GoHunter08
I did my duty
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 20:37 ET by motherbeltI did my duty today....aren't you proud of me? I remembered!
Absolutely, MB.
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 20:44 ET by BlondeAnd how is our side doing?
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Why not adjust the time 30
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 13:03 ET by NonanonWhy not adjust the time 30 minutes and leave it at that all year?
If we clean up or burn off all of the underbrush and dead fuel that has been accumulating for the last century or so, wouldn't we then be able to correct our actions and let less intense forest fires burn and do what they are intended to do now? Then regardless of how the climate changes, the results would be less disastrous. But the hysteria being shouted now about how bad the fires will be in the future due to 'global warming' seems to be ignoring the reality that once the fires consume the dead fuel, it isn't there for a new fire to use! And if droughts are the result of 'GW', new brush will not grow at a fast rate to be dried out and become new fuel. But then there is the confusion over wether GW causes droughts or floods, heat waves or cold snaps, or more or fewer storms, since everything is now blamed on GW.
I saw a portion of hearings on GW by Pete Starkey on C-Span and he had four 'witnesses' giving 'testimony' that simply said the same thing and the smirk on his face spoke volumes about his views about the subject. There appears to be no interest in even hearing any opposing view much less acting with any kind of caution. They are just going to rush headlong into this without any other perspective.
Something Interesting
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 14:59 ET by BlondeHere's some good news.
The King Tut exhibit is returning to the U.S. after London. This is a "bonus" tour for us, as the exhibit was supposed to return permanently to Egypt.
I saw this two years ago, it was fabulous. I'd encourage anyone who's close to go see it, it's a once in a lifetime thing (unless you're planning to visit Egypt). The article only mentions Dallas, I'm not sure where else it's going to be this time around. The official tour site only mentions Dallas.
Oh, and if you go, try to get tickets for the first "session" in the morning. It gets totally packed as the day goes on.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
here's our boy
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 16:51 ET byhere's our boy now
GoHunter08
delete
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 20:40 ET by motherbeltdelete
It's an experience!
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 22:12 ET by scamoramaI saw the Tut exhibit in Seattle in the early 80's. Spent about 4 hours there.
It was, like, totally awesome, you know?
If you can see it, by all means do so!
I'm in the middle of
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 15:08 ET by bigtimerI'm in the middle of cutting up some venison and getting it stored along with watching football...
Go Chargers, Seahawks, Colts and Cowboys today.
Haven't had time to check other teams playing today...but it's a start...
See the Ducks and Navy won...heheheee
Bambi chili.
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 20:39 ET by MikeBBambi chili. Bambiburgers. Bambi steaks. Mmmm, goooood!
And, if it ticks off a PETA putz, all the better.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Cromarte
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 15:43 ET byreturns a short field goal 109yards and 33 inches for a touchdown the longest play ever highlights on a boob-tube near you
GoHunter08
botg... Yep...that was
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 17:01 ET by bigtimerbotg...
Yep...that was beauty in motion.
Not lookin' so good now though...dang it all.
Adrian Peterson is looking
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 17:05 ET byAdrian Peterson is looking good
and the Chargers have to face the Colts next week who will not be happy after losing today
GoHunter08
bot.... Are you sayin'
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 17:45 ET by bigtimerbot....
Are you sayin' the Colts loss or the Chargers loss today?
Because if you are saying the Colts you could be wrong ya know...heheeee
i'm not saying the Colts
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 17:49 ET byi'm not saying the Colts will lose so much as i am saying the Patriots will win
GoHunter08
bot... ...hmmmm...what
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 18:06 ET by bigtimerbot...
...hmmmm...what does that answer remind me of...
Oh I know....Hillary!
ROFLMAO!
Btw...I love Brady, he is hotter than a pistol today so far, but I hope Manning is hotter than a pepper sprout.
i rekkon
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 18:20 ET bytime will tell the Pats have the ball and the lead. As to the Manning klan, after their uppity treatment of the Chargers (and by extension the NFL) during the Eli crapolla may they all lose all their games.
GoHunter08
Yo
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 18:39 ET by bigtimerYo bot...
LMAO!!!!!
What say you now with Manning/Adai (sp) touchdown?
I am roaring here....(for now of course)
Rodney with the pick, we
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 19:04 ET byRodney with the pick, we shall see
GoHunter08
That Wayne has been
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 19:42 ET by bigtimerThat Wayne has been great...along with that evil Manning.
Gosh I think the Colts are ahead...for now of course.
not evil Manningsessess
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 20:17 ET byarrogant jerks
we shall see who wins, great catch by Randy, and Colvin with the steal, Indy out of time outs.
GoHunter08
bot... Well I am getting
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 20:21 ET by bigtimerbot...
Well I am getting my kleenex box out until the Superbowl!
Looks dim at the moment that is for sure...crying my eyes out....boo-hoo.
Btw...did you feel the same about this when the Raider's were there?
I thought the referees would steal the game from the Pats
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 20:28 ET by RJ....but justice prevailed!!!!!
anything can happen on any
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 20:28 ET byanything can happen on any given Sunday.
i actually like Tony Dungy, do not like the Raiders as an organization
GoHunter08
Presidential Cabinet of the third eye Administration
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 16:03 ET by third eyeUN Ambassador - Charles Krauthammer
Secretary of State – Newt Gingrich
Secretary of Defense - John McCain
Attorney General - Rudy Giuliani
Treasury - Ben Stein w/ Deputy Secretary Jimmy Kimmel
Press Secretary – Elizabeth Kucinich
Ministry of Silly Facial Expressions – Margaret Hoover
SecDef McCain
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 16:18 ET by BlondeBomb, Bomb, Bomb....Bomb, Bomb Iran.
(to the Beach Boys tune Barbara Ann).
LOL.
McCain actually sung that to a reporter last summer when asked about Iran. It was hillarious.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
sorry Blonde
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 16:21 ET bywe need someone who will defend the borders also McCain will just not do
GoHunter08
Geez, B
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 16:31 ET by BlondeYou scared me.
When I see "sorry Blonde" I know my Gators are in trouble.
Dick Cheney would be SecDef in my cabinet.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
gators
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 16:38 ET byaren doing okay for a rebuilding year, they can still play with anyone and have a shot at the SEC don't they
GoHunter08
SEC East
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 16:41 ET by BlondeWell, we have a shot, but we're no longer in the driver's seat after losing to Dave R's Dawgs.
Unfortunately, the team who holds their own future in their hands is Tennessee at this point.
But it's been such a crazy year, who knows?
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
if Tennesee can get to #2
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 16:49 ET byif Tennesee can get to #2 they are doomed
(PS its time for captionfest 2 i've seen that face enough for a lifetime)
GoHunter08
-
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 17:23 ET by dahliatraversFunny, we were just saying that in the Captionfest thread, Botg.
With all the crap that
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 17:42 ET by ricklailWith all the crap that Blonde and myself have been writing about Phat Phil, they may just make it. There was a piece in our local paper last week with Montario Hardesty whinning about his playing time. He is from New Bern. Well boo hoo for him. His bitching to local writers here just turns me more and more against TN. I maybe need to send the articles to Phat Phil. I know he doesn't get the Sun Journal. He would bench him over some of this gripping. Bet he is not doing that in the Knoxville paper.
Southern by birth, Tarheel by the grace of God!
Hey Blonde
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 16:34 ET by third eyeLol, yes the line that launched a thousand youtube parodies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAzBxFaio1I
And you notice that joke
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 20:43 ET by motherbeltAnd you notice that joke bombed with the MSM. Jokes about killing are only funny when the victim is Dick Cheney.....
time change
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 17:12 ET by GbearThe time should change whenever Fred Thompson wants it changed.
How bout the Packers
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 17:45 ET by ricklailJust got to watch bonus coverage of the Packers-Chiefs. How bout Brett Farve? I love to watch him. Don't get to see him that much because we are in the Panthers coverage area. They stunk up my TV today. Need a QB bad. I know now why the Texans got rid of Carr. He sucks.
The Thanksgiving game between the Pack and the Lions is shaping up to be more than something to have on in the background while preparing dinner. I'll have watch that one. Could be better than the year that Clint Longley came off the bench in Dallas and beat the snot out of the Skins. Never have been many good games on Thansgiving. The best games are usually the rivalries in college on Friday and Saturday.
Congrats to Brett for being only the 3rd QB to beat all 31 other teams in the NFL.
Southern by birth, Tarheel by the grace of God!
Watch Out...
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 20:44 ET by Del DolemonteThe Panthers have a decent QB, namely Jake. But injuries happen.
One of the Panthers' NFC South competitors, the New Orleans Saints, just won their 4th game in a row after starting 0-4. Brees had 445 yards of passing, and Reggie Bush had a couple of TDs.
And yes, folks, the New England Patriots are FOR REAL. I'm watching Belichik's press conference right now, and he's low-key and quiet as usual. But he must be happy as a clam, as the Pats now have home field against Indy in the playoffs. Can you say "9-0"?
Del, did you hear the announcers discuss
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 20:52 ET by RJthat this group of referees is prone to calling "pass interference?" I thought for sure that that bogus call against Moss would kill the Pats....but they came back.
No, I Missed That
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 22:40 ET by Del DolemonteI always turn the teevee sound down and listen to the Patriots radio team. That would be play by play legend Gil Santos, who first did Pats games in 1966 (later taking a 10 year break to do Penn State football and NFL play by play for CBS and ABC before returning to the Pats booth for good in 1990). Gil's color guy is Patriots receiver (and also placekicking legend) Gino Cappelletti, who until 2 years ago was the Patriots alltime leading scorer.
PS, I gave up on interpreting pass interference calls many years ago.
Well, at least that really bad call didn't affect the outcome
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 23:02 ET by RJof the game....BTW, I don't know if your announcer mentioned it, but the calls against the Pats tonight broke a team record.
RJ
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 23:18 ET bydo you mean the offensive pass interference by Indy that was called as defensive on Hobbs?
GoHunter08
Our Favorite Ally
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 19:13 ET by BlondeThis is too funny.
The military band at Buckingham Palace played Darth Vader's theme when the Saudi King recently visited.
What were they thinking?
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Imperial March
Mon, 11/05/2007 - 09:41 ET by UnsaneDamnit!
That's something I want done when I am President!!!
Imagine, me walking into the U.N. General Assembly in Geneva (where it freaking belongs), for one example, and hearing the Imperial March play as I take the podium as I issue a list of demands, er, points up for negotiation...
:-)
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
"My other point is that I
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 19:32 ET by ckc1227"My other point is that I find it massively depressing that people who
like WalMart think this is an issue that they should volunteer their
time for. Like they owe something to this retail behemoth."
Maybe their doing it has nothing to do with WalMart. See, some folks are against wrong-doing period, whether the victim is a homeless guy living in the street, or a multi-billion dollar corporation. Maybe they don't think it's okay to stick it to someone 5 percent of the time just because that same someone may get their way 95 percent of the time. I know I don't. I don't think it's okay to screw people over 5 days out of 100, just because you leave them alone the other 95.
And, maybe, just maybe, some of them are smart enough to know that they're getting screwed too, and they don't like it, especially when the only point for this nonsense is satisfying the wet dreams of yet another wacko environmentalist.
"I'm not a diehard anti-WalMart type, but I do think there's something
sort of obscene about the #1 retailer in the country invoking the
rhetoric of victimhood and trying to build this grassroots support
network."
I think there's something obscene about believing you can't be a victim if you're successful. And why the pretense? Even though you said differently, it's pretty clear that you ARE anti-WalMart(or is it all successful companies?), so why not be honest about it?
From the article:
"Norman estimates 46 Wal-Mart projects were blocked in 2006 and says the
approval process for new stores has slowed considerably. "What used to
be a three-month process is now a three-year process," he said."
Sound familiar to anyone? Yet Jason would have us believe that WalMart is the bad guy here because they won't roll over and take it in the a**, lol. How DARE you, WalMart, encourage your supporters to voice their opinion. Wonder how much extra this extended timeframe costs WalMart? Baaahh, who cares, they've got the money, so it's okay to rip them off for a few million bucks or so.
I recommend you seek help, Jason. Seriously, I do. If you're are so invested in the actions of total strangers who are choosing to devote their time in a cause they believe in that you are driven to "massive" depression over it, WalMart is the least of your problems. And the good thing is, if you can hold on until after 2008, Hillary will pay for it.
Good luck, bud, and avoid sharp objects. ;)
Dateline: MARCH 2007 - Indicted Hillary Fundraiser Fled US
Mon, 11/05/2007 - 13:09 ET by BritcomClinton donor wanted by FBI in scheme to funnel money
No NOT Norman Hsu; Rehman Jinnah
Don't remember hearing about this one in the MSM? Neither did I.
Los Angeles Times, March 3, 2007
Yes, the story includes a photo of Sen. Hillary Clinton standing next to Jinnah.
More >>
Source: LA Times
h/t Sweetness and Light, Rantburg
BREAKING: Hillary Takes Cash From Terror Suspects
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 20:35 ET by BritcomFull Story >>
Source: World Net Daily
MRS CLINTON
Mon, 11/05/2007 - 00:07 ET by JDWI found this this afternoon. It took me a few minutes to get through the server, it's a great story. I am very surprised it's not getting any attention.
JDW
Sen Clinton: Distinguished Founder of Media Matters
I'm not at all surprised it
Mon, 11/05/2007 - 09:42 ET by lnthompI'm not at all surprised it isn't getting attention. I will be surprised if it is ever featured on CNN, ABC, NBC, or CBS news. Or in the New York Times, Washington Post, USA Today, San Francisco Chronicle, Los Angeles Times, etc.
Lee T.
U.S. Navy (ret.) / Vancouver, Washington
The history of the race, and each individual's experience, are thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal.-- Mark Twain
Green Is Universal
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 22:47 ET by scamoramaSheesh!
The halftime show on NBC tonight has the studio lights off, candles, and a moving banner display "Green Is Universal".
Think they're trying to say something?
A little Orwellian...
scammer
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 22:57 ET bythen they did a full on propaganda hack piece ----disgusting
GoHunter08
}}---> Scanorama
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 23:42 ET by Cool ArrowDid you hear the comment about putting on some Johnny Mathis music with the lights down?
Maybe Olberman is ovulating?
Coach Reid
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 23:39 ET by Cool ArrowHow stupid was it of the silly sideline tart (what's her name?) to imply a double standard might exist with Coach Reid's kids getting busted?
}}---> Pumpkin Tax
Sun, 11/04/2007 - 23:50 ET by Cool ArrowOther day Glenn Beck reported a Pumpkin Tax was being implemented in Iowa for pumpkins used for purposes other than food.
He failed to make the real connection to another food item with multiple uses. Seems logical to me the real target is corn.
Was
Mon, 11/05/2007 - 00:03 ET by JDWThe bill was dropped.
JDW
Sen Clinton: Distinguished Founder of Media Matters
}}---> Was
Mon, 11/05/2007 - 00:17 ET by Cool ArrowYeah, I caught that too, but it's the "foot in door" thing that perked my ears up.
Precedent is everything.
BUSH POLL # ONLY HALF EXPLAINED
Mon, 11/05/2007 - 08:33 ET by reelman46BUSH POLL
#: LIBMEDIA POUNDING ONLY HALF THE STORY
We constantly hear Bush is in the 28-35% approval range…some folks
insist its 6 years of libmedia pounding…
I submit about half of his horrid poll numbers are because:
1… He did not act on conservative principles 80%+ of the time
2… He is silent when hammered unfairly by (easily rebutted) liberals
3… He trusted unworthy liberals like Teddy to write bills
4… He backed a dangerous immigration bill
5… He again nosed (as presidents like to do) in education at the
classroom level
6… He appointed (initially) a bad SC choice when there were much better
options
7… He “never sees the punch coming and deflects it”
8… He expects liberals to act civil and reasonable
9… He failed to veto the 6 years congressional pork-a-thon to buy votes
10.. He has few new ideas when there are lots to bring forth (Fair Tax
and others)
11.. He stopped going to the people very much with positions and ideas,
etc… to pressure the dufus Cingress
Bottom line: He has failed for years to gain the consistent support of
conservatives.
Now he is making some fiscal conservative noise about vetoes…where was
your spine for 6 years?
Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)
Speaking of time changes...
Mon, 11/05/2007 - 09:46 ET by lnthompI notice my post moments ago at 5:something am PST shows up as 9:something ET, which would have to be EDT as EST should only be 3 hours ahead of PST. So whatever computer is hosting this apparently didn't set itself to standard time!
Lee T.
U.S. Navy (ret.) / Vancouver, Washington
The history of the race, and each individual's experience, are thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal.-- Mark Twain