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hmm...
September 5, 2007 - 21:56 ET by MrShyGOP debate on TV tonight??
All I see on my tube is a lot of black & white stripes... moving, fuzzy snow.... oh wait, that's my %$#@ TV that's on the fritz! :(
Guess I'll have to check in here to get the latest scoop :p (or I can try foxnews.com) Will Fred Thompson be participating? (I know, I should know this, but I'm so out of it)
You can see Thompson on Leno tonight, MrShy
September 5, 2007 - 22:15 ET by RJBut he didn't participate in this debate
Thx RJ !!
September 5, 2007 - 23:46 ET by MrShyThanks, I'll look for him.... and my TV finally came on, so I'm good to go now :)
About Ron Paul.... The
September 5, 2007 - 22:00 ET by ckc1227About Ron Paul....
The more I hear from this guy, the more....I do not like him. Idealism sounds nice, but it isn't very realistic.
It's like he's in the wrong debate.
September 5, 2007 - 22:10 ET by dodecahedronIt sounds like he'd fit right in with the other side.
Vote for "<insert name of conservative who stands up to the media>" for President in 2008.
dodecahedron
September 5, 2007 - 23:14 ET by SportPoliticsDuncan Hunter
That's why they show him so very little.
He really flopped, he is
September 5, 2007 - 22:47 ET by Dan The Man 2He really flopped, he is stuck in his college days.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Interesting debate so far...
September 5, 2007 - 22:08 ET by dodecahedronThompson isn't there? He must be since they talked about him so much at the beginning.
Giuliani took a hit on the 'sanctuary city' issue. Romney was wise to push it. I still haven't heard Giuliani explain his views on that clearly.
I thought Huckabee looked impressive in his exchange with Ron Paul. Also liked what he said about McCain.
The crowd appears to be well-mixed. Adults in the front and young people in the back.
Vote for "<insert name of conservative who stands up to the media>" for President in 2008.
I still haven't heard
September 5, 2007 - 22:14 ET by general companyI still haven't heard Giuliani explain his views on that clearly.
Sounded like he said he could'nt get rid of them through the feds so he thought it better to tell them their illegals statuse did not matter, so they would particapate "so to speak"
What would he do as President?
September 5, 2007 - 23:29 ET by dodecahedronDoes Giuliani still believe sanctuary cities are acceptable? I didn't catch that.
He does get bonus points from me for using the term 'liberal media.'
Vote for "<insert name of conservative who stands up to the media>" for President in 2008.
I personally think he was
September 6, 2007 - 08:53 ET by general companyI personally think he was suggesting he had no choice, because of the Fed's apathy.
Giuliani
September 6, 2007 - 15:57 ET by JDWDucked a few issues. Would not commit to taxes nor respond to his immigration record other than to say he did the best with what he inherited and intends to fix the system.
JDW
CFR: Chung, Riady, Hsia, Trie, Huang, Hsu, Paw... Who's looking?
I would love to here the
September 5, 2007 - 22:09 ET by general companyI would love to here the Dems answer these questions,,,,then again all that studdering would drive me nuts
Ron Paul.
September 5, 2007 - 22:11 ET by Ynot59"The ones who think it'll be a blood bath if we leave are the same ones who thought it'd be a cakewalk"
Hahahahaha.
Short memory, huh.
How many died by gas Saddam didn't have after we neglected to go to Baghdad last time?
Ididot!
BRITANNICUS SUM
If Ron Paul believes anyone
September 6, 2007 - 02:26 ET by lnthompIf Ron Paul believes anyone in favor of the Iraq war thought it would be a "cakewalk" then he really is an idiot.
Lee T.
U.S. Navy (ret.) / Vancouver, Washington
The history of the race, and each individual's experience, are thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal.-- Mark Twain
As with nearly all of those
September 6, 2007 - 10:43 ET by BDAs with nearly all of those who simply wish to abandon the rest of the world and "Dig in on the Rio Grande", Ron Paul shows an AMAZING lack of strategic thought processes.
This debate
September 5, 2007 - 22:11 ET by pauls_in_cais Kick a$$. Sorry for the superlative language.
My wife is even saying I like these guys!
(R) Debate
September 5, 2007 - 22:13 ET by BlondeMitt is sounding very shaky.
Tancredo is sounding over the top.
Huckabee is making great points. As is Duncan Hunter. Hmmmm.....
McCain (as usual) is out of touch....the old war hero...but a non-contender.
Rudy, again as usual, has his sense of humor turned on, sounds reasonable....but isn't the one.
The 800 lb. gorilla who is not in the room is Fred Thompson.
Ron Paul, on the subject of Iraq....sounds like a total whack job.
JMO.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Mitt Shaky?
September 5, 2007 - 22:27 ET by Del DolemonteI'm 40 miles from UNH, but didn't watch a minute-the Red Sox are losing to the Blue Jays 6-4 in the top of the 9th inning. Since the hated Yankees are winning, we need to pull this one out to maintain our 7 game lead.
For Mitt to be shaky in his own back yard indicates that he's got problems ahead. He's been running a ton of radio ads in New Hampshire lately, which isn't good.
As for me, it's Rudy all the way (this coming from a former NYC resident who remembers how Rudy reclaimed the city from the Dems).
Del,
September 5, 2007 - 22:47 ET by BlondeWhoa, whoa, whoa!
This was THE debate to watch.
Mitt just blew it totally. He sounded like a ninth grader. As did McCain. Particularly on the "Iran" question.
To my way of thinking, Huckabee and Guliani just ran away with this one. Color me shocked.
Rudy ran away with the foreign policy aspect of it. And Hucabee kicked a** on that too, and on the rest.
I am totally surprised by my reaction....seriously. Rudy is looking better. But I really thought Huckabee rocked.
And Hunter was my choice for third place tonite.
Everyone else was kind of pale. Ron Paul looked and sounded like, I don't know what.
I think most here would agree, though, that the questions (and follow ups) were so adult compared to the liberal kiss-ass suck-up questions in the (D) debates.
Thank heavans....an adult conversation for a change.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Rudy's Not That Bad
September 5, 2007 - 23:32 ET by Del DolemonteRudy is the only one with a chance to beat you know who.
Conservative Voters
September 6, 2007 - 09:09 ET by Sergeant ROCKYeah, that's what will invigorate conservative voters - a slightly less liberal candidate than you know who.
Blonde,
September 5, 2007 - 22:29 ET by Dave RI applaud you for watching that, as I would most likely run screaming from the room.
I hate beauty pageants.
"I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!”- Rick Roberts
I think you could take this
September 5, 2007 - 22:39 ET by general companyIt is pretty good, if any of these canidates sound "shaky" it is because the questions are pretty tough. Some of these decisions would be difficult to exsplain in 60 seconds.
gc,
September 5, 2007 - 22:43 ET by Dave RWhich is precisely why I don't watch debates.
"I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!”- Rick Roberts
The 800lb Gorilla
September 5, 2007 - 22:30 ET by Free StinkerFred Thompson and Ann Coulter walk into a bar. The bar is instantly destroyed because that much awesome cannot be contained in one building.
Can Huckabee's performances
September 5, 2007 - 22:54 ET by balboaCan Huckabee's performances at these debates raise him in the public awareness? Make him a more viable candidate?
}}---> Huckabee
September 5, 2007 - 22:59 ET by Cool ArrowWe fear a Huckabee candidacy only because we fear the same old evangelical label.
Clearly he has the best conservative views, the best articulation, the most consistent record.
Even considering his "Willie Horton" moment, he's the best choice.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
I'm thinking so, Bal. He
September 5, 2007 - 23:05 ET by BlondeI'm thinking so, Bal.
He impressed me totally tonite.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
"Mitt is sounding very
September 5, 2007 - 22:38 ET by ckc1227"Mitt is sounding very shaky."
Rudy sounding kind of shaky too on a few recent questions.
I don't know ck....I
September 5, 2007 - 22:53 ET by BlondeI don't know ck....I thought Rudy took a few seconds to get into his arguments....then he sounded pretty good.
And I am no big Rudy fan. I was actually shocked at how well he did (IMO).
An interesting bit of politcal theatre.
The one thing it did for me, though, was clarify who the losers are....the field should be narrowed down to four by tomorrow.
Buh bye McCain, Paul, Tancredo...and perhaps Mitt. Mitt was horrible. I don't think I'd ever vote for him after tonite. He reminded me of a much better looking Hillary Clinton....doing & saying whatever.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
LIVE FREE OR DIE!
September 5, 2007 - 22:41 ET by third eyeOk this is my review of the Republican candidates at the debate tonight.
Romney- C ( is unslightly gray holding you back, try "Just for Men" hair color)
Guliani -A (future president)
Paul -F (hasnt had a bowel movement in weeks)
McCain -C ("sleepy john")
Huckabee -A (future vice president)
Tancredo -D (when the pressure was on, he couldnt spit a word out)
Hunter -B (copies Guiliani)
Brownback -C (agreed with a Thomas Friedman quote)
Thompson (80% of life is showing up)
Third Eye
September 5, 2007 - 22:55 ET by BlondeMay I apply for a professorship at your school?
Damn....you graded that just perfectly. Wish I'd thought of that tack to take.
Right on the money, here! Excellent.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Blonde
September 5, 2007 - 22:59 ET by third eyeThank you. Thank you very much
What did Mitt do to deserve
September 5, 2007 - 23:57 ET by Conservative VoiceWhat did Mitt do to deserve the low score?
Haven't watched the debates yet, waiting to be able to streamline it.
CV, Mitt just kind of
September 6, 2007 - 00:03 ET by BlondeCV,
Mitt just kind of out-Hillaried HRC.
A pluperfect panderfest.
Overly prepped. Disingenous.
A horrible performance. And I was prepared to really like Mitt...I thought he might (might) be the real deal. But I was sorely disappointed tonight.
It was a sorry performance. Although....I'll be interested to hear your opinion after you've seen it.
Get back to me when you get a chance.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
well after trying for over
September 6, 2007 - 02:05 ET by Conservative Voicewell after trying for over an hour on trying to get the debate feed, I gave up, will try again tomorrow.
But I was able to get the interview of Mitt and Rudy after the debate. I like Rudy's style, he is fun to listen to. But his stance on illegal immigration and gun control are negatives to me.
Mitt did a fair job. He does tend to talk smooth, and maybe that is what bothers you...he tends to not have that fire in his belly that Huckabee showed Ron Paul, and how Rudy natually talks. But I didn't see any pandering...except maybe the apology for comparing his sons to the service and sacrifice of the military. I am not sure how he could of apologize better, especially since I don't think he needed to apologize for it. But he did a pretty fair job showing how he has a stronger position than Rudy's when it comes to immigration.
Before the debate I gave my take on the top three candidates, and thus far it hasn't changed.
OK, I read the transcript,
September 6, 2007 - 05:44 ET by Conservative VoiceOK, I read the transcript, and from it I can see where you came to that conclusion. He was a bit wishy washy on Iraq. "surge is apparently working.... If the surge is working..."
I want someone to be both realistic, and at the same time optimistic.
I also think it is a mistake for him to go after Rudy's record on illegal immigration. Instead he should simply state we should empower cities to combat illegal immigration and not put people like Rudy in a position to where he feels he must work with the illegals because the federal government doesn't have his back, and we need to limit federal funds to those cities who still want to be considered a sanctuary city. When he puts Rudy on the defensive, then people look at his own record to determine if he is being a hyprcrit. Which is why Hume mentioned illegals were mowing Mitt's lawn. Let the pundits make the mud connections.
And though he was technically right on the scenerio with Iran, I liked Rudy's answer better. Mitt's was too much like Kerry's. Even Reagan worked the system of Allies to get what he wanted, but he was a cowboy, who took the bull by the horns. Words like consensus in times of crisis is not what I want to hear.
Overall, I would have to agree with the score card. I did agree with Ron concerning the airlines should handle their own security, but other than that I think he is wrong.
It would of been fun to see Fred in this debate, too bad he thought listening to Jay Leno go over bumber stickers would win him more points...though they were funny bumber stickers.
I thought McCain had some
September 5, 2007 - 22:58 ET by general companyI thought McCain had some good things to say, allbeit a little reserve. Plus a few of the others gave him props.
Guiliani is still talking about himself on H&C
When Tancredo did spit out words they were agreeable
Does Paul live here?
Brownback a little repetitious
Mit was ok I guess, tough questions forcing him to defend himself some.
Huckabee and Hunter were both fairly solid.
Overall, I really think they were all pretty good considering the questions
Thompson detemined the
September 5, 2007 - 23:14 ET by Dan The Man 2Thompson detemined the class was too early and opted for a later one. But, I expect him to be valedectorian with Gulianni saludetorian.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
3rd Eye... I have to
September 6, 2007 - 11:20 ET by bigtimer3rd Eye...
I have to disagree with you about Hunter here...
Hunter has never copied anybody in his life, least of all Giuliani...he has always been his own man.
I also know he will be out of the race soon, but I have had nothing but admiration for him for a very long time listening to him on the House floor and watching his votes.
Just my point of view.
I am surprised Hunter
September 6, 2007 - 12:35 ET by Conservative VoiceI am surprised Hunter couldn't get more support, of the lower tier he's my favorite. It could simply be because he is a congressman.
FNC Republicans liked McCain
September 5, 2007 - 22:45 ET by Matthew SheffieldIs that just NH McCain Kool-Aid or did he really do better?
It sure is Matt he was way
September 5, 2007 - 22:48 ET by third eyeIt sure is Matt he was way too monotone and boring
That was shocking to me
September 5, 2007 - 22:51 ET by dodecahedronLooks like the people in NH were watching a different debate. I didn't see anything to change my opinion about McCain.
McCain lost me 8 years ago when he was speaking in front of a crowd of college students and said he was "like Luke Skywalker attacking the Death Star."
I'm a Star Wars fan, but that comment was a bit too far out for me.
Vote for "<insert name of conservative who stands up to the media>" for President in 2008.
Did he really?
September 5, 2007 - 23:04 ET by general company"like Luke Skywalker attacking the Death Star."
Really? Hilarious
I remember it vividly. I
September 5, 2007 - 23:23 ET by dodecahedronI remember it vividly. I saw it on the news (probably FNC) so there must be footage of it in existence somewhere. If McCain gets the nomination, some liberal will probably post it on YouTube.
Vote for "<insert name of conservative who stands up to the media>" for President in 2008.
Matt, McCain's schtick
September 5, 2007 - 22:58 ET by BlondeMatt,
McCain's schtick was the same old.
I found it kind of interesting that the rest of the candidates paid him some nice compliments....a true kiss of the black widow. McCain's just too obtuse to know he's over. Sad.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
I like Duncan Hunter, great
September 5, 2007 - 22:46 ET by charlietexasI like Duncan Hunter, great name for a President!! President Hunter!!! I wish more people liked him....Mommmmmmmy
Duncan Hunter
September 5, 2007 - 23:31 ET by BarkerI've supported Duncan Hunter since he announced his candidacy. IMO, he is a genuine conservative. Hunter may not win the nomination, but he should be on the short list for VP, or as Secretary of Defense in a Republican administration.
Barker... I have been
September 5, 2007 - 23:45 ET by BlondeBarker...
I have been waiting and waiting for Fred.
But, being totally objective, Rudy, Duncan Hunter & Huckabee ran away with the show tonite.
I am really surprised at my reaction.
But I am nothing else, if not a realist.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Which candidate lets you sleep?
September 5, 2007 - 22:49 ET by NortonPeteMcCain. That the only one I could sleep well at night as president.
Man this is rough to watch
September 5, 2007 - 23:06 ET by third eyeMcCain is currently bombing on Hannity and Colmes
800 lb Gorillas and the Samsonite Test
September 5, 2007 - 23:24 ET by HeikiYes, 80% of life is showing up; however, (I may be mistaken but) I don't believe that Thompson has formally entered the race yet, and he'd be a fool to pass up airtime on Leno, where he can come accross as personable/likeable to millions of non-watchers of the debate (think general election, folks), when there are going to be other debates down the road that he'll have the chance to participate in. I think it was a shrewd move.
Panacea Fred?
September 5, 2007 - 23:31 ET by third eyeI disagree. I cant say for sure Fred Thompson is gonna bomb big time, but thats just what I see happening.
I see the Paul moonbat
September 5, 2007 - 23:19 ET by ckc1227I see the Paul moonbat brigade is busy again tonight. So far, Fox news text message opinion polling shows he won the debate. Too bad for him that text messaging isn't how we elect Presidents.
True
September 5, 2007 - 23:21 ET by general companyToo bad for him that text messaging isn't how we elect Presidents.
And thank goodness for us
"Too bad for him that text
September 5, 2007 - 23:34 ET by ckc1227"Too bad for him that text messaging isn't how we elect Presidents.
And thank goodness for us"
You got that right.
Dial "M" for Mommy
September 5, 2007 - 23:41 ET by Barker"Too bad for him that text messaging isn't how we elect Presidents."
Yeah, and I'm sure those bipolar Kos Kids don't have to pay the phone bill.
What's the difference between Ron Paul and Cindy Sheehan?
September 6, 2007 - 00:46 ET by CTI don't know but I'm open to ideas from the land of make believe!
Sorry, but what world does
September 5, 2007 - 23:24 ET by SMGalbraithSorry, but what world does Ron Paul believe exists outside the borders of the US?
This isn't 1807. It's 2007. The type of role he wishes the US to play in the world is just not tenable.
If the US is not the predominant power in the world, then another nation will be. That's been the history of mankind for hundreds of years. Certainly since the establishment of the nation state.
What nation does Paul and his acolytes think should dominate the world? Because if isn't the US, it'll be someone else.
SMG
If you think you can stop
September 6, 2007 - 12:46 ET by TruthMongerIf you think you can stop Asia, or India, or the Emerates region, then be my guest - the American century is gone my friend...
Protest Craig's conservative abandonment - vote Democrat in 08'
Wow TM, you are really down.
September 6, 2007 - 13:23 ET by Conservative VoiceWow TM, you are really down. Hang in there buddy, it isn't over yet.
...I couldn't be happier
September 6, 2007 - 13:27 ET by TruthMonger...I couldn't be happier about giving up the number one slot:)!
Let China or whoever babysit the world for a century or so - we have our own problems to deal with - a massive liberal infection for one...
Protest Craig's conservative abandonment - vote Democrat in 08'
no thank you...I would
September 6, 2007 - 13:59 ET by Conservative Voiceno thank you...I would rather give power to Japan.
I also thought all of the
September 5, 2007 - 23:28 ET by general companyI also thought all of the canidates took it easy on Thompson.
Huckabee slams Thompson
September 5, 2007 - 23:41 ET by third eyeHuckabee just said "if your not here you forfeit" on H&C.
So what? Fred is going to
September 5, 2007 - 23:51 ET by BlondeSo what?
Fred is going to do it his own way....anyone who thinks otherwise is foolish...Huckabee included.
He's trying to press the advantage that he impressed conservatives like me tonite. But if he keeps it up (stupidity)...oh well, not so impressed.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
"Huckabee just said "if
September 6, 2007 - 00:00 ET by ckc1227"Huckabee just said "if your not here you forfeit" on H&C."
Unfortunately for him, Huckabee doesn't get to make that call, as the polls show differently.
As for Fred, I think he will sputter once he gets in. I've seen him in a few interviews recently, and I wasn't impressed. I wanted him to be the guy, but now I'm not sure. We'll see. Maybe he's been practicing all this time. I hope so.
Hunter just ate Allen
September 5, 2007 - 23:57 ET by general companyHunter just ate Allen (doesnt need a) Colmes lunch.
Wow, watching Fred on Leno's
September 6, 2007 - 00:03 ET by ckc1227Wow, watching Fred on Leno's show, and man, is he a big guy. He almost dwarfs Jay.
That ended wierd ?
September 6, 2007 - 00:21 ET by general companyThat ended wierd ?
Yeah, that did end weird...
September 6, 2007 - 00:30 ET by MrShyYeah, that did end weird... you mean Fred's exit from Leno?
But yeah, Thompson impressed me... a real John Wayne type... and his line about how we've shed more blood for other's freedom than all other countries combined, really silenced Leno's mild left-leaning questions... he's a straight shooter, it seems, and it's also why he doesn't give a hoot for posing and pleasantries (sp?) like, oh say.....
I switched from NBC to CNN immediatlely when Leno went to commercial... and immediately I got that icky feeling.... and it was white-hair, raspy-voiced, glint-in-his-eye himself! Yeah, we all know who! :p
Could you be talking about a commercial break?
September 6, 2007 - 00:28 ET by RJEither way, Thompson just left.
Thought he did well once he got going, but at first he seemed a little rusty at the Q & A stuff. He needs to get out and mix it up to show his stuff.
Everything he said, though, was right on target.
Yeah RJ, see my reply above,
September 6, 2007 - 00:31 ET by MrShyYeah RJ, see my reply above, too...
Debate
September 6, 2007 - 00:25 ET by pocomocoMy general impression of the Republican ‘news conference’ was that no one ran away with it. Much of it consisted of ‘boiler plate’ answers because of the ‘boiler plate’ questions asked, and no innovative answers were given.
At the moment, I like Giuliani because I think he’d be great in a cat fight with a Democrat opponent and, especially, with the press where he has shown that he doesn’t suffer fools.
As for Ron Paul, he is an idealistic anachronism with no sense of historic reality.
The big question mark is, of course, Thompson. If he doesn’t come out swinging, his candidacy will be short lived.
In the final analysis, if the Republican nominee doesn’t show a willingness to get down and dirty with his Democrat opponent and the press, he can kiss the Republican base goodbye.
Yes, Giuliani would
September 6, 2007 - 00:35 ET by MrShyYes, Giuliani would defintely be the favorite in any duel of wits -- or actual issues -- w/ any Democrat... and I'm from NYC, and yes, he doesn't suffer fools, but he doesn't do it in an arrogant way either... he's a cool cat, but it's subtle. He knows how to handle the press and pressure, from working here as both mayor and DA.
Giuliani Hunter and
September 6, 2007 - 00:39 ET by general companyGiuliani Hunter and Huckabee all took good digs at Dems.
Yes! I laughed when it was
September 6, 2007 - 00:43 ET by pocomocoYes! I laughed when it was said that the Republicans get rid of their trash while the Democrats promote theirs.
I was momentarily confused.
September 6, 2007 - 02:08 ET by kevcadI was momentarily confused. Fox had the debate, and then I switched over to AMC for rest of The Dirty Dozen.
What a night. ;-)
Start each day with a smile, then get it over with. - W.C. Fields
The Real Debate
September 6, 2007 - 02:11 ET by Lame CherryTonight I saw one adult in a midst of snotty democratic children and a group of Republicans auditioning for a job and that adult was Fred Thompson.
I could care less about Hillary's polling guru or Republicans hiding what they are for fear of offending a voting block, because none of these people have it figured out WHAT a President of the United States is.
A President of the United States is an elected dictator. That is no slam against the founders nor America, but that is what that office is all about. The presidency is a model after the first General of America in George Washington. None of these candidates beside Thompson has it figured out that you do not ask Americans you tell Americans which end is up.
Can not stand the creature, but even Bill Clinton was more adept at telling Americans he was going to be their national daddy crying allot than Bush 41 or Dole could figure out.
Fred Thompson got that figured out. He went on Leno, because he needs the silent want to be hugged and want to be left alone crowd's vote. He came across tough in his own message with a cheering crowd while Republicans picked at the open wound they are making of the presidency they see and are lying about.
I am not saying this to degrade Republicans as I do not want a leftist dem in that office due to the horrific times America is about o face, but what you have in Mitt and Rudy are patrician womb to the tomb moderates like Bill Buckley. McCain is an ornery moderate who sold out to mafia gaming interests long ago in the Nixon form. Ron Paul is a Pat Buchanan isolationist and Tom Tancredo has Bay Buchanan running his camp. The rest of the characters are only auditioning for jobs after the big boys win.........and frankly like Patton said, "I wouldn't accept a man who smiled in loosing"........ so why should America want some looser to get an appointment at a job they never earned.
Fred Thompson is doing it his way and the sooner he holds his guns to doing it his way the sooner America will figure out he is fair, but not going to put up with their tantrums.
I doubt that America wants to suckle the nipple of Hillary Clinton for 8 years as national mommy dearest. I doubt America wants Obama who was the pretty boy now trying to be a street brawler and looking gay and I doubt America wants to cuddle up to Al Gore who looks more each day like some character out of a Dracula movie. The democrats are DOA no matter what they attempt even on MSM life support.
At this moment Thompson is coming across as the General he needs to be and he will need momentum, but if he has his Ronald Reagan moment the RINO's will fold fast..........and it is probable he will win in a landslide as 50% of America will not vote for what the democrats have on the table.
Thompson being Tennessee conservative if he takes a leap of faith and the GOP see the ticket of Thompson Lieberman, it will mean the conservatives, the middleority and the patricians with the democrats who were voting Gore before.
Leave the Arkansas wanna be VP in Arkansas as the first thing people in the west think of Ar Kansas is Bill Clinton no matter the message.
Thompson won the first night of his first debate as he set the agenda and was not having the agenda set. Watch him when Joseph Farah moderates the Florida debate as that will be his moment.
agtG
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Fred Thompson got that
September 6, 2007 - 09:21 ET by general companyMaybe, but he seems to take the long way to explain it, even without a timer.
He went on Leno, so he could answer (Leno questions) and have the stage to himself, I am not drawing any more conclusions then that.
He came across tough, what?
Fred is ok, but before he gets my endorsement he is going to have to go toe to toe with the rest of them. I thought he threw away another opportunity to do that last night.
I like this group, Fred may win me over, but he has had zip for competition, avoiding it as much as possible while the others have stood up to every question under the sun LIVE not taped delayed in the studio.
off-topic, but ...
September 6, 2007 - 02:32 ET by lnthompWho is funding this stupid blitz of "Support the Troops by bringing them home now" advertising featuring a supposed ex-soldier telling the camera the Iraqi people hate the American soldiers?
Lee T.
U.S. Navy (ret.) / Vancouver, Washington
The history of the race, and each individual's experience, are thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal.-- Mark Twain
Probably some front
September 6, 2007 - 08:00 ET by Jack BauerProbably some front organization funded by George Soros... the most dangerous opponent of American democracy and values since Joe Stalin and Adolph Hilter.
I heard it is one of the
September 6, 2007 - 08:42 ET by Roger the ShrubberI heard it is one of the big unions, like the UAW, but I cannot say for sure.
Debate
September 8, 2007 - 15:01 ET by Felicia LuceFirst off, let's not give up on Fred. I believe he did the right thing. It is early in the campaign, and I think it was a good tactical maneuver on his part.
IMHO,
McCain-I believe he would be the best in regards to the war on terror. His answers were calm and collected. He doesn't run on emotion, and that is what we need. He didn't win points with me on his immigration policy.
Mitt Romney- My first choice, before I watched the debate. He seems plastic to me and unsure.
Rudy Guiliani- Too busy talking about his 'successes' in NY to really answer any of the questions in an intelligent manner.
Huckabee-Made some good points on certain things. Not really impressive.
Talcredo-Not impressed.
Duncan Hunter-Never heard of him before the flyer I got in the mail the day of the debate. Doesn't sound strong. We will have to wait and see.
Ron Paul- Who invited this raging liberal? This was a joke right? It was like watching a train wreck.
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McCain was wrong on the
September 8, 2007 - 16:45 ET by Conservative VoiceMcCain was wrong on the torture...seems to run on emotion on that one.
Mitt -- he has had better debates, but definately needs to be more himself
Rudy -- I think won the debate
Huckabee -- love the Ron Paul exchange
and Fred looked like he avoided the kitchen, on Jay Leno he looked tired and old.
Ron Paul
September 8, 2007 - 15:10 ET by Felicia LuceI can't stop shaking my head about this guy. He says he wants to get rid of Homeland Security, FBI, CIA and more. Then in the question about dealing with Iran, says he will rely on intelligence gathered before making a decision. I am curious as to who will gather the intelligence. I am bewildered.
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