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Fellow NBers
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 11:00 ET by Noel SheppardFellow NBers,
I'm going to start this thread for a change. First, I wanted to thank all NBers that have submitted article ideas through the feedback link, private messages, or e-mail. I'd say lately up to 25 percent of my ideas come from you. Thanks.
Taking this further, I also get ideas when I happen into the Open Thread, or other articles, and find links to interesting stuff. With that in mind, if you link an article in a thread because you think readers should see it, do writers here a favor and ping us through the feedback link, PM, or EM. This way, your fascinating article will be seen by many more readers.
Thanks for your attention, and please have a wonderful weekend.
ns
Mr. Sheppard
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 16:01 ET by amberIn the forum I posted something about 24 being the first series to go carbon neutral. It is on their website. Almost lost my appetite, still a little queezy.
You sure wouldn't know it
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 11:16 ET by sarcasmoYou sure wouldn't know it from the headline, but Rudy was involved in this relative-wrist slap. Good thing hyperwealthy pharmaceutical executives are treated just the same as doctors in our politi...er....legal system, eh?? I'm sure political donations have nothing to do with any of this (in a pig's eye!). The best rackets are always legal....
JMR
Cost is a major issue for
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 11:25 ET by JDWCost is a major issue for those against the Iraq war. I checked the figures to find spending to be somewhere around $6ooB.
In theme with dem tunnel vision, if one considers another perspective, prosperity as a result of protection permitted by fighting abroad, $600B becomes minuscule. Markets are now at a $3 trillion level. Deficits are dropping faster than congress's approval ratings. The buildings where some of our most productive businesses operate have been safe from attack. And the DOW continues to set record highs.
Who with half a brain would cut the $600B from Iraq and redirect it to America's poor?
JDW
News media: Scoreboard for terrorists
THE LIBERAL #$$%^*%^ don't
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:59 ET by PKTHE LIBERAL #$$%^*%^ don't understand just how important it has been for the country that we have not had a military campaign of substance in the continental united states for about 140 years.
in that period of time we have had only one "smoking hole in the ground" (911).
this is really important to a country.
first, we have not had to rebuild infrastructure to recover from that type of stuff.
second, we have not had the political/social diversion that those things cause.
third, we have not had the losses to our population associated with these happenings.
the enemies that we fight generally don't care about the "little people".
during the Korean war the americans forced the "north koreans" to the peace table by quite simply KILLING a lot of them. then they argued about the size of the table or some such thing. then the negotiations would stop for a period of weeks. during the night the "north koreans" would make mass attacks and the next morning our guys would find thousands of dead in front of thier positions. then the PRK would come back to the talks and argue about the size of the flagpoles, the color of the paint on the walls etc.
they have not signed a peace treaty yet!!!
look at the current situation.
the people that we backed, adopted a capitalistic society and government are rich, healthy, and generally happy.
the north koreans as a group have been on starvation rations so long that they are about 4" shorter than the same ethnic group/gene pool directly to the south. (no i cannot provide sites to this statement.)
In the case of Viet Nam.
look up the city of Wei. it was the Boston of Viet Nam. (a large city of colleges, hospitals, all the good stuff.) a population of approximately 3 million. the colleges were closed, (save the buildings they're important to use for the governments purposes,) reduce the population to 750,000 (we don't talk about how) and send the non essential of those left to the fields to help harvest rice.
there are many other examples of my point.
we have not had these things happen in the united states because of the lifetime work of many individuals. most of them have been military but a number have worn suites.
in this day and age our oceans are not the barrier that they once were. we now have weapons that certain individuals can wake up on a friday morning and in a fit of religeous frenzy push a button and in about thirty minutes we too can have a radioactive smoking hole in the ground. because they are a dark ages society they will probably have stoned the people to death that could make the thing work and so the hole rather than being in the middle of new york city (where it richly deserves to be) would probably be in the middle of boondocks pennsylvania or some such other rural place.
the military will do thier damdest to stop the weapons, but you can't build a system that can "hit a bullet with another bullet" in twenty minutes or so and so they will take the blame from the liberals that handcuffed them since the carter administration.
some of the stuff that they didn't tell the politicians about will actually work. and so we will see politicians that are still alive because the military flimflammed them holding hearings to castigate the military for keeping them alive. standard reward the guilty, punish the innocent govt. stuff.
gotta go. the guy with the 55 gallon drums of the pink liquid is here to make a delivery.
C
the people that we backed,
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 14:25 ET by JDWthe people that we backed, adopted a capitalistic society and government are rich, healthy, and generally happy
Very true. And they are contributing to our economy.
JDW
News media: Scoreboard for terrorists
Cost of the war
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:27 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsCost is a major issue for those against the Iraq war. I checked the figures to find spending to be somewhere around $6ooB.
Tell those same people that the cost to Americans of the ILLEGALS here in this country is estimated to be between $300 to $400 billion a year and watch them say 'Yeah, but . . .uh, umm, err, . . . Bush is bad!!'.
D
I don't support our liberals or their mission.
That dem tunnel vision
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 14:29 ET by JDWThat dem tunnel vision spins wasted taxpayer spending away to Iraq any opportunity available.
JDW
News media: Scoreboard for terrorists
The cost issue is never an
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 16:14 ET by amberThe cost issue is never an argument I hear from people, it is alway that our soldiers should not have to die. Blah blah blah...like they have made any sacrifice to make that decision for us all. 23 months my husband has been away from home. He was bombed regularly. I don't care about the money; all I care about is that something happens that benefits us (I believe they have done a lot of great work keeping the enemy busy and concentrated in the mid-east instead of in the US). You would be surprised how many people complain to families of deployed soldiers, they think we will agree with them. He is comming home very soon and now they all want to be out and celebrate his homecomming because it is a romantic event and it will lift them out of their depraved state, but all the while they spent bad mouthing his job and it makes me angry. I would much rather pick him up and give them the finger. There are many people who I am glad will be there too, but quite a few older people who think WW2 was the only noble war effort and they know all....I always ask them, "Why is it more noble to rescue Jews than to rescue Kurds or Iraqis? Did you know there were concentration camps when you went there? Isn't rescuing the Iraqis making it safer for Israel? Isn't rescuing them creating a buffer zone between Iran and Israel???" You can't win. But no, it was noble to save the lives of all of the Jewish people and it is good that all of the Iraqis go sraight to he'l because that is what will happen if we leave, we will sentence them to death.
People with no brains employed by government. OFFICIAL.
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:18 ET by Jack BauerScience has confirmed what conservatives have long suspected about the efficacy of those who work for the government...
And why it's not really a good idea for governments to run things: like Socialized National Heath Services
Finally, some light is shed on the US State Department and its brilliant "middle-east" "ideas."
A quick Weekend Edition of the Shrub Report...
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:18 ET by Roger the Shrubber146 years ago today, the First Battle of Bull Run was fought.
US and Iraqi troops raided a prominent Baghdad Sunni mosque complex and detained 18 suspected militants on Saturday. Check out the acommpanying photo. Amazing.
The latest in the oh-so-honest attempt by the Left to rid us from dependency on foreign oil...
If there's raping and pillaging going on, you just know Peacekeepers are around!
Meanwhile, the non-war-on-terror continues to not-exist in Europe.
Anyone still think Ahnold is a Republican?
The US Senate is definitely flourishing under Democrat(ic) leadership...
Here in the 'Burgh, the temps were in the low 70's yesterday, and should only hit 75 today. Here is how the quite-left-of-center Post-Gazette reports it.
Today in history: 38 years ago, Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong were the first to walk on the Moon.
Thank You Ever So Much, Rog
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:29 ET by BlondeToday in history: 38 years ago, Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong were the first to walk on the Moon.
I remember that....on the old black & white TV in the parentals' living room.
Okay, I guess I am now officially not a child. I remember it like it was yesterday.
How cool is that? Walking on the moon?
Finally, Rog....thanks for the Shrub Reports. They're alot of fun....really appreciate your efforts in this regard, guy!
Blonde -- that's one small
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:39 ET by Jack BauerBlonde -- that's one small step for a shrubb, a giant leap for shrubbkind.
But seriously, the Shrubb Reports are faked, written in an aircraft hangar in the Nevada desert.
Jack, Did you hear that
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:48 ET byJack,
Did you hear that the 'a' has been found after all these years? "That's one same step for (a) man one giant leap for mankind"
"The more I study science, the more I believe in God." Einstein
botg -- I arrogantly took
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:11 ET by Jack Bauerbotg -- I arrogantly took the liberty of correcting one of the most famous quotes in the history of all mankind.
I think Mr Armstrong has admitted he fluffed the line. But then, he was stepping onto the moon! THE FRACKIN' MOON!
Guided by a computer with one hundreth the power of the chip running my fridge.
Jack
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:15 ET byi was being serious, there was an article maybe six months ago where through computer analysis they really did locate the 'a' which had been lost in the transmission.
"The more I study science, the more I believe in God." Einstein
Mea Culpa -- I thought you
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:19 ET by Jack BauerMea Culpa -- I thought you were kidding!
So apart from actually being the first human being to step on another planetary body, he also got his lines right.
A seriously over-used word but
AWESOME.
Jack, you DO know that,
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:06 ET by Roger the ShrubberJack, you DO know that, just because you live in England, you can still be found, right?
Just ignore any parked vans outside your residence this weekend, ok?
LOL -- dude, I'm wearing my
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:22 ET by Jack BauerLOL -- dude, I'm wearing my tinfoil hat as you track me down. That will stop your evil shrubb-control mind rays.
Me too. My parents (who had
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:39 ET by sarcasmoMe too. My parents (who had both just quit working up here for the old, less-romantic version of the space program that had been concerned with landing a package on Moscow) woke me up in our Coconut Grove home and had me watch it on black & white. I'm glad they did, now, and they said I'd remember it forever. Even better, I got to see BOTH Voyagers launch in person.
JMR
Sarc, Don't you wish you
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:50 ET by BlondeSarc,
Don't you wish you owned your parents' Coconut Grove home now? As well as the Barry Goldwater pin?
I guess you and I are the "spacers" here...being natives.
It's part of my DNA....so I can't imagine what it must have been like for you with your parents in the actual thick of things.
Fun stuff....I may have to go rent the Apollo movie to watch on this new plasma monster.
Can you picture the B&W pic of the big hop in your mind's eye? I can. I'd bet today's kids couldn't even tell you what it is. How sad.
That was a very modest home.
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:00 ET by sarcasmoThat was a very modest home. Yes, it's now worth a fortune. :) Anyway, like I said, they were involved in some of the previous efforts during the post-Sputnik over-reaction (at least, I think it may have been, as Sputnik wasn't too much!) to Russia. Secrecy was rampant at the time, and you could lose your job for talking, but everyone around here knew when something was going on because the radars would be revolving that day. The house around here on the Banana River pre-Coconut Grove probably wouldn't be worth quite as much, but would be even more fun to own. But then I'd have to move...
JMR
Sarc, When is the next
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:06 ET by BlondeSarc,
When is the next Shuttle shot?
And is there a way to get VIP tix?
I'd really like to see one of those close up and personal.
I saw the second one from about five miles away...awesome! But I'd really like to do the VIP thing once. Just because.
I think it's early August,
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:13 ET by sarcasmoI think it's early August, I"m going to be out of town and I don't have my base connections anymore, but if you call ahead they're generally pretty nice about it. The thing is, you might be stuck up here if the weather decides it's August. In fact, it's raining now. I just wish they'd reverse policy and allow night launches again, those were the best by-far. The problem is, you can't make a coolness-factor argument to safety-nazis, and in theory launching in the daytime might be 0.001% safer...Sigh...
JMR
Me three!!
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:54 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsMe too.
Well me three. I remember watching that. It was amazing.
I also remember silly me running to a dark room to look at the moon, hoping I would see a glint of a reflection from the orbiter. LOL
D
I don't support our liberals or their mission.
DFTT, Sweet memories,
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:58 ET by BlondeDFTT,
Sweet memories, yes?
Again, thanks Rog!
i will remember we were at
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:44 ET byi will remember we were at Boy Scout camp Yawgoo and got to assemble in the mess hall to watch this
"The more I study science, the more I believe in God." Einstein
as i remember, tricky dicky
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:48 ET by PKas i remember, tricky dicky gave the federal government the day off to celebrate the event.
C
makes me wonder if years
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:50 ET bymakes me wonder if years from now will people know him as BJ Billy?
"The more I study science, the more I believe in God." Einstein
Don't forget the picnics
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 18:22 ET by Carl KolchakOne of the big "What If's?" from the Civil War is if the South had kept their momentum and went on to D.C. after their victory at Bull Run aka Manassas. That is a question many have asked. Who knows what would have happened. I think it would have been more difficult than some make it seem. I think Gen Johsnston also said after the war that he didn't think it was possible.
How about all those people who came from D.C. to watch the battle and have a picnic? I'm sure Antietam, Gettysburg, Chancelorville, Fredricksburg, The Wilderness, etc etc. all had nice picnic areas for those to come and watch as well.
"Four score and seven years ago..."Abraham Lincoln
This just off the
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:18 ET by Space CowboyThis just off the wire:
Doctors examining President Bush's colon report that, as well as polyps, they also found his head.
And, in other news, President Cheney has moved into the Oval Office, declared martial law, dismissed Congress, and declared war on Iran.
Better hide Spacely the
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:23 ET byBetter hide Spacely
the Chenopo will be by to round you up soon
First they came for the
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:50 ET by Space CowboyFirst they came for the Jews. Then they came for the gypsies. . . And, then, Oh My God!, they came for ME.
You might want to consider making any controversial statements useing an alias, change your phone number frequently, and get a new social security number.
You know what,
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:52 ET by BlondeYou know what, Space?
You're even more boring now than you were as Johnbo.
Yawn . . . BEEELCH!!
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:56 ET by Space CowboyYawn . . . BEEELCH!!
Well...that's just exactly
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:58 ET by BlondeWell...that's just exactly your speed.
Slow and stupid.
That's what you are, what am
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:01 ET by Space CowboyThat's what you are, what am I . . . ?
Nyaa, nyaa, nyaa
You are
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:08 ET by BlondeYou are Lame'O.
QED.
For the non-latin translators here, "the facts speak for themselves"...or somesuch.
Ooooh, latin. I am. like,
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:16 ET by Space CowboyOoooh, latin. I am. like, so impressed - especially considering your sheltered existence in your mom's basement.
No they'll come for you
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:56 ET byNo they'll come for you first. The jews and gypsies are part of the conspiracy along with the RNC, the non-MSM media, Ann Coulter, Major League Baseball, NRA, the entire VRWC and anyone, group or set comprised as not a member of DU or KOS
"The more I study science, the more I believe in God." Einstein
Good one, botg. You're
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:59 ET by Space CowboyGood one, botg. You're well on your way to a wild-eyed, delusional state of parnoia.
Maybe some good meds would help.
Ooooooh, Johnbo, That
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:03 ET by BlondeOoooooh, Johnbo,
That rapier wit of yours needs some sharpening.
No matter how sharp, it
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:15 ET by Space CowboyNo matter how sharp, it would be wasted on you, bro.
You're obviosly an idiot.
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:21 ET by BlondeYou're obviosly an idiot. And obtuse. "BRO"
Blonde -- and he doesn't
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:24 ET by Jack BauerBlonde -- and he doesn't even rise to the level of useful idiot. What a waste.
Ah, Jack Bower -
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:29 ET by Space CowboyAh, Jack Bower - NewsBuster's own Ahab in eternal wild-eyed search for the elusive great white "liberal".
You definitely qualify as someone who knows something about being a "useful idiot".
Nu?
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:33 ET by BlondeNu?
I warned you, but would you
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:34 ET byI warned you, but would you listen? Nooooo, you had to hang around
"The more I study science, the more I believe in God." Einstein
Hola, Senor Bauer. I
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:32 ET by BlondeHola, Senor Bauer.
I suspect this is a "thing" which ought to be referred to the "Woodshed", per our new wonderful NB site.
You are surely correct (as I'd expect each of my Brit friends to be).
I usually have Useful idiots clean my house and mow my yard.
Okay...ball is in your court....I need a really great "Britspeak" put-down here.
Thx, Jack!
And you say Noel has no
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:05 ET byAnd you say Noel has no sense of humor?
You are dismissed
"The more I study science, the more I believe in God." Einstein
then, Oh My God!, they
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:16 ET by Jack BauerAnd unfortunately while the lights were on, there was no one home.
Space
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:34 ET by Noel SheppardSpace,
A few weeks ago, you expressed surprise and dismay at how folks here refer to you as a troll. When you open a thread with such a statement about the President, is it any surprise you are characterized as such? Moreover, when the mob, carrying torches and bats, begins to pound you for your disrespect, are you going to feel they're to blame?
Just curious. ns
Noel, you've just confirmed
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:45 ET by Space CowboyNoel, you've just confirmed - as if I had any doubts - that you are severely humor impaired.
But, that's Ok. I've been brought up as a good liberal not to laugh at the laugh impaired. Besides being politically incorrect, it's a double negative
P.S. Isn't this blog open to various political points of view - even sarcasm and ridicule? I certainly see plenty of pointed - even vicious - remarks about "liberals".
P.P.S. When I put up a post for serious discussion, that's what I'm looking for. When I feel like making snarky remarks about, oh, I don't know, our idiot president, then, please, feel free to snark right back. Who's afraid of a little snarkfest?
So am I, then, because I
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:50 ET by sarcasmoSo am I, then, because I keep looking above for any funny jokes and not finding one...And it's not like I'm thrilled with either Bush or the various RINOcandidates...
JMR
but spacey its beneath mr.
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:52 ET by PKbut spacey its beneath mr. sheppards principals to fight a battle of wits with a half armed man.
C
Um, PK, there was something
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:55 ET by Space CowboyUm, PK, there was something "witty" in Noel's post???
And, that was exactly my point. Noel seems incapable of wit and banter.
YOU ask this? There is
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:56 ET by BlondeYOU ask this?
There is certainly nothing ever witty in any of your posts, Johnbo.
Sheesh.
Yeah, but you gotta admit,
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:05 ET by sarcasmoYeah, but you gotta admit, he's got the "banter" part mastered, to the exclusion of all else. Including wit...
JMR
Hey, GOOD sarcasm, em,
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:10 ET by Space CowboyHey, GOOD sarcasm, em, sarcasmo. You named yourself well.
Maybe you could evolve from
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:17 ET by sarcasmoMaybe you could evolve from "Johnbo" and "Space Cowboy" to something more accurate. I suggest "Troll." But what we've all been saying is that you're not funny. Not all lefties are. You should leave humor to the professionals, like Colbert and Stewart and the writers for SNL. You're not up to their level with the banter, there's no wit/humor and yet for some reason (called "chutzpah") you're calling someone else "humor impaired." I get to make fun of that. In fact, it's often my only freakin' job around here.
JMR
Hey, thanks for pointing
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:05 ET by Space CowboyHey, thanks for pointing that out, Blonde. I'll start looking at your posts for some pointers.
As well you should,
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:10 ET by BlondeAs well you should, troll.
Em, still looking. chirp,
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:12 ET by Space CowboyEm, still looking.
chirp, chirp . . .
I do like the crickets but where's the wit and banter? ? ?
Since you are utterly
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:23 ET by BlondeSince you are utterly stupid...I guess you shall be looking until the cows come home, Johnbo.
Can you say "gone"?
Ok, now in the interest of
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:33 ET by Space CowboyOk, now in the interest of my education in wit and banter, was your post above 1) wit or 2) banter or 3) both or 4) non of the above.
Please make the answer simple so I can understand it.
Thanks, BORE, er, I mean, BRO.
truly Blonde If it is not
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:36 ET bytruly Blonde
If it is not simple Spacely can't understand it. That's why he is a lib
"The more I study science, the more I believe in God." Einstein
Slip my next post (down) on
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:40 ET by BlondeSlip my next post (down) on your foot, Bruce.
Even a vegetable would understand it....well, maybe not Johnbo.
I suspect he has the IQ of asparagas.
Um, Johnbo... Since you
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:39 ET by BlondeUm, Johnbo...
Since you are obviously most galactically stupid....let me leave a trail of ALPHABET SOUP for you here.
You are BANAL and unbelievably BORING.
And not worth anyone's time here.
Keep it up....and you will be gone (YET AGAIN) from this site.
Ta ta, troll!
(sigh) Another surrender
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:41 ET by Space Cowboy(sigh)
Another surrender monkey leaves the field of battle.
Thank you Johnbo, for
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:44 ET by BlondeThank you Johnbo, for another insight into the liberal mind.
Sheesh. You are TOOOO bloody stupid for words.
Blonde Watch, now that i
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:51 ET byBlonde
Watch, now that i have made it clear that i won't respond Spacely will be brave enough to post to me.
"The more I study science, the more I believe in God." Einstein
Spacely,Make that
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:47 ET bySpacely,
Make that three. (which is also the number of my posts you avoided)
Three of us who refuse to continue to respond to idiocy.
Victory is yours
You are the KING OF IDIOTS
we abdicate any claim to a position which is undisputedly yours
Uh, thank you. Uh, thank you
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 14:04 ET by Space CowboyUh, thank you. Uh, thank you very much.
better luck next time, cowboy
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 14:13 ET by Pragmatic-ManWell, better luck next time, cowboy. Maybe someday you will find a friend. Must be lonely.
Actually, you're just not
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:05 ET by Roger the ShrubberActually, you're just not very funny, or snarky. You are, however, not unlike the dozens of whiny crybaby humor-impaired lib trolls who have come here in the past. Like it or not, you are a stereotype. Congrads.
Thanks, Shrub. Just trying
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:09 ET by Space CowboyThanks, Shrub. Just trying to keep it lively here in the NewsBuster echo chamber.
Say, you aren't related to The Shrub - AKA George Bush - are you? And, does his genetic disposition regarding his head and his rectum by any chance run in the family?
Hey Johnbo, How's the
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 23:00 ET by Roger the ShrubberHey Johnbo,
How's the therapy working for you? I see it hasn't been very effective, you still writing as if it is Jan 1, 2005.
It must get tiresome for your mom to hear you crying yourself to sleep every night.
But, hey, you have 2 1/2 years to catch up on, so suck it up and keep that double-chin up high, ok, buttercup?
No
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:18 ET by stratman"I've been brought up as a good liberal not to laugh at the laugh impaired. Besides being politically incorrect, it's a double negative"
Where is the double negative?
Is it "I was brought up" and "good liberal" = I'm feral and bad liberal?
Is it "I was brout up" and "laugh impaired" = I'm feral and laughing?
Is it "good liberal" and "not to laugh" = bad liberal and laughing?
Is it "not to laugh" and "laugh impaired" = laughing at laughing?
Is it "good liberal" and "laugh impaired" = bad liberal and laughing?
This post is not about your political humor, just your grammar.
The double negative is 1)
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:39 ET by Space CowboyThe double negative is 1) the "politically-correct" dictate NOT to make fun of someone who is, 2), NOT able to understand humor.
Say, you aren't my old english teacher, Mr. Stratemore, are you?
You SAID you'd follow me to the ends of the earth to make sure I understood what a "double negative" was, and now I believe you.
Classic versus Novel
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 15:06 ET by stratmanIn the traditional sense, double negatives combine (some say cancel out) to form an affirmative. In this definition, your statement would translate as 'a good liberal will laugh at those that laugh'.
Then there is the current missappropriation of multiple negatives to reinforce a negative, though this was popular in Shakespeare's time. An example would be 'you don't say nothing' to actually mean 'you didn't say anything'. This is not currently acceptable grammar.
What your sentence structure and word selection appears closer in relation to double negatives is best said by this explanation:
Unfortunately, 'laugh impaired' does not fit this category precisely either since it functions as a noun phrase. More appropriate would have been '...a good liberal to never not laugh at the laughing impaired' or '...a good liberal to not laugh at the never can't laugh impaired". Regardless, your sentence would still translate as 'a good liberal will laugh at those that laugh'.
What you needed to have was an understanding with your audience that you were using dialectical or nonstandard speech in order for this to be considered differently. I understand your conceptualization, but, the ultimate problem is that there are no multiple negatives in your sentence to consider the presence of double negative.
BTW, I spoke with Mr. Stratemore and he will be coming to tutor you. For some reason I get this image of Mr. Hand appearing at Jeff Spicoli's home in the movie "Fast Times At Ridgemont High". Absolutely classic!
Now I'm thinking about Phoebe Cates. Yes!
Umm. What were we talking about?
Stratman, that was the best
Sun, 07/22/2007 - 00:21 ET by Space CowboyStratman, that was the best post ever! I don't know what you're smoking but I want some too. And, I think I'm going to run out and rent "Fast Times At Ridgemont High" so I can see who some of these characters are you mention.
And, you're right about my lame attempt to turn my "NOT laughing at people who are UNable to see humor" into a double negative. Or, as you would say, ". . . a good liberal to never not laugh at the laughing impaired' or '...a good liberal to not laugh at the never can't laugh impaired". Stratemore would have been proud of you. And, thanks for the excellent dictionary reference.
I guess I'm going to have to get stoned to make sense of this.
Spicoli was
Sun, 07/22/2007 - 00:24 ET by dagdaJeff Spicoli was stoned through most of the movie and even until today. There is no reason you should not be stoned, too.
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower
Sounds like the way to watch
Sun, 07/22/2007 - 01:03 ET by Space CowboySounds like the way to watch the movie as well as to read Stratman's post.
Do it straight up
Sun, 07/22/2007 - 01:12 ET by dagdaThe movie is very funny straight, think you will miss things if you are stoned.
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower
dag, I loved that
Sun, 07/22/2007 - 01:15 ET by bigtimerdag,
I loved that hilarious flick!
Still do.
Space
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:25 ET by Noel SheppardSpace,
You come to a conservative website making a derogatory joke about a Republican president and have the nerve to suggest that I'm humor impaired?
Excuse me, but part of being a good comedian is to know your audience. You don't make gay jokes in front of the Rainbow Coalition. You don't make slave jokes in front of the NAACP. You don't make Jewish jokes in front of the ADL. And, you don't make Bush jokes to conservatives, unless your goal is to be a troll.
Amazingly -- or maybe not so -- you have once again demonstrated to all present your extraordinarily limited grasp of reality, and how it really does seem your goal to just infuriate people here. As such, I'm done with you. I believe I've tried to have civil discourse with you over the past few weeks, and all I get in return is invective. As such, you're not worth my time anymore. Adieu. ns
Funny, the name Sheppard
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:36 ET by Space CowboyFunny, the name Sheppard doesn't SOUND French.
Oh, well, guess you don't have to be French to be a "surrender monkey".
Surrendering is all I here
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:42 ET by RESTLESS 1Surrendering is all I here democrats talking about lately.
That's CHEESE EATING
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 14:06 ET by Jack BauerThat's CHEESE EATING surrender monkey, please.
Actually Noel, making jokes
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:40 ET by RESTLESS 1Actually Noel, making jokes as you describe above is completely legit. Only making conservative jokes anywhere is off limits.
See, I can be just as open minded as the libs. ;>)
Restless
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:49 ET by Noel SheppardRest,
In reality, I think jokes should always be acceptable regardless of the content or the audience. That possibly was the case years ago before the PC crowd took over.
For instance, as a child, I spent a lot of time in the Catskills in upstate New York. Jewish comedians made lots of Jewish jokes to a largely Jewish crowd. I don't think you can do that anymore.
Consider also Archie Bunker and "All in the Family." There's no way a show like that would be tolerated on any of the broadcast networks today. Yet, this was an award-winning, highly-acclaimed show in its day.
I'm sure you're also familiar with how many of the "Little Rascals/Our Gang" episodes are no longer allowed on television due to racial content. Yet, many Americans grew up with these characters.
Political correctness has not been kind to comedy. Too bad, because despite the assertions of some libs here, I was always the class clown, and am considered by folks who know me to still be. :-) ns
Noel, political correctness
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:57 ET by RESTLESS 1Noel, political correctness has turned everything upside down and taken the fun out of almost everything. First, pc only applies one way, if comedians want to make fun of straight white males who are Christian, then no rules apply. If we get offended, then we have no sense of humor. Second, pc has creeped into just about every institution, including the military (think don't ask, don't tell), and it makes us weaker and less able to stand up to adversity. My above reply was half kidding, as I don't see anything wrong with offending those who are constantly looking to be offended. Some gays Jews, and African-Americans fit the bill, and I am usually more than willing to oblige.
Wow, Noel, humor-challenged
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 14:09 ET by Space CowboyWow, Noel, humor-challenged AND incapable of understanding irony.
You don't even recognize that your dictate that humor that pokes fun at a conservative in front of a CONSERVATIVE audience, isn't allowed. THAT'S POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. DUH!
(sigh)
ns -- I think the basic
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 14:16 ET by Jack Bauerns -- I think the basic problem here is that just wasn't a funny "joke."
Even the President laughs at jokes against himself, and has made jokes against himself. But they usually have the virtue of being uh, FUNNY.
You don't tug on Superman's
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 14:31 ET by saw the lightYou don't tug on Superman's cape,
You don't spit in the wind.
You don't pull the mask off the ol' Lone Ranger
And you don't jump if you can't swim.
With apologies to Jim Croce, Space you are in over your head. Time to go back to DailyKos.
"There is a tendency for the world to say to America, 'the big problems of the world are yours, you go and sort them out,' and then to worry when America wants to sort them out." - Prime Minister
As far as space dumbass
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:29 ET by RESTLESS 1As far as space dumbass goes, I've decided to take Unsane"s advice and pay him no mind. He is just another leftist loser with no ideas of his own. He can't make decisions for himself and therefor wants government to do it for him. He can't manage his own finances or health care, so he wants govt. to steal from the rest of us and give to him and others like (feeble)minded. He has never put up a post that makes any sense or has any validity. Thus his reply to Noel above is untrue. He doesn't believe in personal responsibility or our nation's autonomy, and he sure doesn't believe in the rights of the states to govern themselves. He is just like every other liberal who can't win in the arena of ideas, and therefor wants the courts to mandate what they couldn't possibly pass through legislation. If you disagree with him, he resorts to name calling and stomping his feet like a petulant child. Really not worth the time.
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RESTLESS 1, your post isn't
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 14:15 ET by Space CowboyRESTLESS 1, your post isn't funny, isn't witty, and isn't true.
You've made me into a staw man to direct all your concepts of "liberalism" at. You have got the wrong guy. But, I doubt you'll ever get beyond your simplistic concepts and understand that.
I'll leave you now so you can find some more windmills to tilt at.
Good luck. You'll need it where you're stuck.
It wasn't meant to be funny
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 15:41 ET by RESTLESS 1It wasn't meant to be funny or witty. It is however too true. I've seen your posts, and they are of the same vein. You post what you think is a salient point, only to be shot down by facts, and then you stoop to calling names and whining. Then, you claim it is us who have you wrong. Maybe, and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, you just aren't capable of thinking for yourself. Perhaps you truly don't understand how silly you look with some of your inane posts.
Also, those are not my concepts of liberalism, they are what you and your kind have turned liberalism into. Somehow, I don't think the folks at nambla and the devil worshipers are lining up to vote Republican. These are just a couple of examples of who your party has gotten into bed with. You define modern day liberalism every time you post.
sounds good.what's he
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:55 ET by PKThis just off the wire:
..................
And, in other news, President Cheney has moved into the Oval Office, declared martial law, dismissed Congress, and declared war on Iran.
sounds good.
what's he going to do after lunch.
C
Surrender Monkeys Forever
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:58 ET by stratmanThe TV show MASH is airing on my local channel currently. In this episode, a sniper is taking pot shots at the 4077th, and rather poorly at that. Just one person wounded in the arm despite dozens of stationary or slow moving targets.
Here's where things get really bad. Hawkeye says "It's clear what we need to do. SURRENDER." This was not a joke. He means it, folks.
As a preamble to this incredulous declaration, Hawkeye is on an amourous picnic with his nurse de jour when a single shot, the first by the sniper, lands near them. He runs up an incline to where Frank and Hotlips are going to do some target shooting, but had not fired a shoot yet. Hawkeye demands that Frank hand over the gun saying he nearly shot him and the nurse while pointing in a direction LATERALLY away and downhill from where Frank was even aiming. I know that Liberals are crooked in their anti-gun sentiments but the pistol Frank had is incapable of shooting crooked.
These two scenes so perfectly capture the Liberal anti-gun and military agenda today as they did 20 years ago:
Alan Alda is an ass. I would not be surprised if he influenced the writing for these scenes. Not that the show's writers needed help, mind you.
I wonder how many times this episode will be replayed to reinforce the Democrat surrender monkey propaganda?
Don't forget stratment, no respectg for authority
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:42 ET by exLibDon't forget the calling card of the anti-war, anti-conservative liberal, glorifying outright disrepect for authoirty.
Ever notice those ingratiating bumper-stickers that say "Questioning Authority is Patriotic"
They always question the authority of conseravtives but never question their own authority to disobey those in power they disagree with.
If I remember correctly,
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:49 ET by RESTLESS 1If I remember correctly, Alan had a lot more to do with the writing ang directing as the show went on. Of course, as the show went forward thhough the years, it went downhill as well. The movie was alright as long as you don't take it too seriously, but the show was nothing more than indoctrination for viewers. I felt this way at the time, and I couldn't have been more than 14 or so when it's final episode aired.
Critical Mass
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 17:02 ET by stratmanI watch MASH regularly on TV. I enjoy the antics and the fine acting.
The difference today, the reason I posted the comment, was that I had had enough of their proselytizing as it coincided with today's Liberal agenda of surrender in Iraq.
Some tid-bits from the news
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 13:38 ET by exLibWell, ESPN had on a woman who thinks Michael Vick and Barry Bonds aren't really guilty but are victims of racial discrimination. Selective, white, "witch hunts" I think is how she put it.
Today, a liberal talk-show host was putting forth a GI in NY who hired a hit-man to shoot him in the leg to get out of going back to Iraq as the regular over-stressed Soldier. Then she goes on to say only the poor serve in Iraq, no Congress People's family serves and who would want to? Then she says, I respect these brave soldiers, without holding out a decent example.
False Rhetoric
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 17:29 ET by stratmanThere are politician's family members serving in the military currently. You'd think that Yahoo who said to the contrary would have remembered that Democrat Jim Webb has a son in theater since Webb insulted the president over Bush's simple enquiry into the boy's well being. Afterall, the media couldn't get enough coverage to hoopla as a negative for Bush despite the true the uncivil posturing wrong behaviour of Webb. I don't think Webb would take kindly to someone invited into his home for a meet and greet without ulterior motive being insulted by the guest without provacation. I think Webb needs to have his dose of atypical antipsychotics adjusted upward.
I don't know if this is all true or all encompassing but here's a list:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/89071-politicians-sons-serving-afghanistan-iraq-wars.html.
Hi strat... Jim Webb is
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 17:42 ET by bigtimerHi strat...
Jim Webb is one of the most pompous arses I have ever watched in the Senate, especially the so-called all-nighter they recently had, I happened to catch a back and forth between he and McCain, McCain told him what for.
Thanks for that list, looks correct to me.
Duncan Hunter and Joe Wilson are two of my favorite congressmen too.
Of course the msm doesn't make much of it....wouldn't look good now would it, unless of course they have an agenda attached.
Here is the latest on The Fearless Leader and his plans with our military/funding for those who may not know.
I despise this piece of shite...and I hope all these tactics come back to bite him and leftists as it should, and I personally think it will myself.
the msm can make a big deal out of the Shrillary/Pentagon ordeal, but anyone that really pays attention is going to see the political whore for what she is.
Reid is a despicable liar
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 18:47 ET by stratmanReid is a despicable liar and backbiter. He is the least effective and least respected Majority Leader I am aware in my life. LBJ must be rolling in his grave to think this pantywaist of a girly-man is the Democrats point man. Reid couldn't punch his way out of a paper bag if his life depended on it.
I also believe the pendulum will swing to the right again someday and even the Democrats will be forced to confront their nonsense of today.
strat... He is really
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 19:08 ET by bigtimerstrat...
He is really impressive on the Senate floor when he talks about being an ex-boxer and an ex- Capitol Hill Police officer in that mighty quivering soft phony voice of his.
He is an EMBARRESSMENT for this nation.
Keystone Cop
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 22:03 ET by stratmanI can just imagine 'Hang 'em High' Harry as a Police Officer - "Stop! Or I'll be forced to let you go!"
I can just imagine 'Hitman' Harry as a boxer - "OUCH! You hit me!" (Apologies to Thomas "Hitman" Hearns.)
From http://www.adherents.com/largecom/lds_Reid.html:
No mention of how many wins or losses for 'Hooligan' Harry. I can only imaging he got "called out" of bars for being a schmuck like what we see him as/still today.
Reid is a Mormon and he's the Democrat's front man. What's with all the religious assassination of fellow Mormon Mitt Romney? I thought Mormon's were to speak out if a fellow Mormon were to experience intolerance based on their religion. Where's 'Hightail It' Harry when ya need him? (Ditto moniker with respect to Iraq)
Then again, Reid was head of the Nevada Gaming Commision, and we all know how outstandingly principled that group has been. Now we know where he learned to be 'Hand Out' Harry.
Unbelievable cartoon
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 14:23 ET by saw the lightI am not sure which is more offensive: The basic fact that this cartoon was actually drawn, or that the St. Louis Post-Dispatch saw fit to run it on the weekly "Cartoons from around the world" section of their paper on Friday.
http://www.cagle.com/politicalcartoons/PCcartoons/hachfeld.asp
And liberals (and their associates in the media" say they support the troops. With a straight face!
"There is a tendency for the world to say to America, 'the big problems of the world are yours, you go and sort them out,' and then to worry when America wants to sort them out." - Prime Minister
New Harry Potter Book
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 16:14 ET by RiharA few years back I saw on a news report a little girl and her mother waiting in line to get the newest Harry Potter book at the time. She was holding a sign that said "Bush is Voldemort" and repeated it for the news cameras that were interested in it. I don't know if the kid will remember it when she grows up but I hope she paid attention to the stories that J.K. Rowling wrote.
Whether or not the little girl does, it got me thinking. Voldemort (for those who don't know) is the bad guy who takes joy in killing those who don't believe in his "magical people are superior/all others don't deserve to live" ideology. Potter is the one who recognizes this as a threat and wants to stop it.
The problem is that there are those in the (magical) government who don't believe that Voldemort and his Death Eater (soldiers) are a threat or even real for that matter. On top of that the newspaper (The Daily Prophet) is on a dirt-digging expedition led by a reporter that is more interested in smarmy stories than the truth.
So let's review: One group led by a charismatic leader is trying to use his soldiers to kill all non-believers. His soldiers are disguised as normal people in the community and do not wear uniforms. On the other side is a person who is among the prime targets of these agressors and is trying to stop it and warn others in the community that they need to come together and defeat this enemy. All the while the government is saying that the whole thing is overblown and the war with the enemy is little more than a "bumper sticker". All the while the press is... well, need I say more?
Does this remind you of anything?
When a liberal speaks, the truth is busy elsewhere.
Here is some latest info.
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 19:12 ET by bigtimerHere is some latest info. on Thompson and other candidates...
Kinda fun fast reading.
Thompson/Hunter '08!
Pajama Party
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 19:49 ET by PawpawNCan we as the ones who pay for such, ask for a refund on the so called "ALL NIGHTER", since now we know only 1 of the cots was used, that most of the SINATORS[yes I like that spelling] went home to sleep a little while, since Hairless[yes I like this also] Reid didn't take roll when he said he would because the DIMS[always loved that one] told him they weren't going to be there, etc., etc. What a waste! Only the little rally by the war protesters had any sembliance of people being around. The C Span cameras stuck in one spot, etc., I just thought the whole sham should get an emmy for the best comedy show on TV.
I heard an interview with
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 19:54 ET byI heard an interview with Barbara Boxer
"I went to my office and slept for four hours, we stayed up all night"
Huh?
"The more I study science, the more I believe in God." Einstein
The whole thing was a media
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 19:57 ET by bigtimerThe whole thing was a media scam and everyone knows it, even the leftist in the real world.
They wouldn't know what a real all-nighter was if it hit them in the face or they were ever forced to have one they would have to seek immediate counseling.
How many actually there at any one given time?
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 20:02 ET by PawpawNHow many even showed up for any of the ALLNIGHTER? I didn't even see staffers there!
Wrong quote
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 20:05 ET by saw the lightYou have the quote all wrong. I believe she stated that they stayed up all night first and then stated that she slept for four hours.
I still am trying to figure out why this was such a media circus when they DID NOT STAY UP ALL NIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"There is a tendency for the world to say to America, 'the big problems of the world are yours, you go and sort them out,' and then to worry when America wants to sort them out." - Prime Minister
STL i gave a synopsis of
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 20:27 ET bySTL
i gave a synopsis of her interview, the quote is not exact but both propositions were truthful to Boxer's statements (ie: there is no difference in substance)
"The more I study science, the more I believe in God." Einstein
Sarcasm
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 20:31 ET by saw the lightSorry, botg. I meant that sarcastically. The quote, however it was said, was ludicrous.
"There is a tendency for the world to say to America, 'the big problems of the world are yours, you go and sort them out,' and then to worry when America wants to sort them out." - Prime Minister
:o
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 20:30 ET by:o
5 polyps removed from GWB colon!
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 20:08 ET by PawpawNThis is the story as written: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070721/D8QH9ENG0.html
However, the MSM failed to note that one strangely resembled Helen Thomas, and the other 4 all had D branded on them!
You know "THE WAR IS OVER, BUT THE STRUGGLE CONTINUES!"
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 20:45 ET by PawpawNYou know I get tired of everyone talking about the WAR IN IRAQ. Well, to me, the WAR IS OVER, but the struggle continues. We defeated Saddam Hussien and his govt, and now a new IRAQI govt is in place. We are there helping with the struggle the new govt faces. At the same time we are fighting the WAR ON TERROR! That's my take on it all!
PAPPY
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 20:58 ET byi like your take
"The more I study science, the more I believe in God." Einstein
Need to get Rush on board!
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 20:59 ET by PawpawNBeen trying to reach Rush to get him to that this and run with it. It is the way things are!
better chance of talking to
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 21:02 ET bybetter chance of talking to Hedgecock and wait till he fills in
"The more I study science, the more I believe in God." Einstein
MSM & PLAME/WILSON
Sat, 07/21/2007 - 20:49 ET by PawpawNSeems the MSM is mighty mum on the PLAME lawsuit! Wonder if Timmy Rusted, oh I mean Russert, will have anything on this tomorrow?
IRAQ
Sun, 07/22/2007 - 19:24 ET byStill supporting the clowns in control of this war:
Lookie here:
http://www.noendinsightmovie.com/