In this second installment, we take a break from our usual program of pointing out the absurdity of liberal bias in the press to let you get to know some of the people who provide the news for public consumption.
Meet Mario Anthony Orlikoff, formerly a Daily Press Sports Editor, now an alleged bank robber. After being followed by a drive-through bank customer, Mario was pulled out of a river by police and his toy gun was taken away, which will no doubt lead to calls for a three day waiting period for toy guns. The big tip-off was that the note he handed the bank teller in the robbery was written in perfect AP Style.
In other news, Seattle Times staffers showed their true colors this week. Editor & Publisher reports that when news staffers at the Seattle Times learned of Karl Rove's resignation, they cheered. It led Executive Editor Dave Boardman to send a note to the staffers telling them to keep their politics to themselves, which apparently means keep doing what you're doing but don't cheer out loud about it.
Update: Seattle Times stock "losing value dramatically." Down 12% in six months.
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Should of fired them all
August 15, 2007 - 13:59 ET by DontTreadOnMeShould of fired them all right there on the spot.
Pssst DTOM, Hating Karl
August 15, 2007 - 14:02 ET by LeonPssst DTOM,
Hating Karl Rove is hardly indicative of a liberal bias.
Many people hate Rove, Republicans included. I've heard many a Republican blame him for the recent destruction of the Republican party.
So, I fail to see how cheering for Karl Rove's exit has anything to do with liberal bias. All it shows is a dislike of lying, manipulative, self-interested scumbags. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
"I've heard many a
August 15, 2007 - 14:35 ET by ckc1227"I've heard many a Republican blame him for the recent destruction of the Republican party.So, I fail to see how cheering for Karl Rove's exit has anything to do with liberal bias."
I agree. I mean, just because a white person hates black people, it doesn't mean he's racist. Afterall, there are some blacks that don't like black people.
Uh, your example is not
August 15, 2007 - 14:38 ET by LeonUh, your example is not comparative at all.
In fact, it makes no sense within the context of my previous comment.
Calm down leon, your
August 15, 2007 - 15:47 ET by rob6677Calm down leon, your aluminum foil/pyramid is interfering with your computer
"I'm interested in the fact that the less secure a man is, the more likely he is to have extreme prejudice." Clint Eastwood
Keep jerking those knees
August 15, 2007 - 21:53 ET by ahusserKeep jerking those knees Leon.
Hi Fat hater!
August 15, 2007 - 14:41 ET by Six String SpiffGlad to see you are back. Anywho..
What proof do you have that Karl Rove is ANY of those things you said? Oh, wait, that would be your opinion. Sorry. I thought you were going to use facts for the first time. What was I thinking, huh?
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Well SSS, We know for a
August 15, 2007 - 14:45 ET by LeonWell SSS,
We know for a fact he has been a liar, manipulative, and self-interested and I can show you one clear example.
When he lied to Bush Senior, leaked info to Novak to get back at Mosbacher, and was promptly fired by Bush Senior from the '92 re-election campaign.
So he has been those things. And I think the examples from the current admin are even more blatant but I used the one above b/c it's indisputable no matter how much kool aid you pour on it.
Leon.
August 15, 2007 - 14:52 ET by Six String SpiffI was un-aware of any such firing form Bush Sr.'s Admin. If that is true, then I retract my sarcastic response. However, regarding this administration, I was pretty sure he was only hated because of is political genius against the MSM's beloved Democrats. Rove has ALWAYS been a target of the liberals because they continue to believe elections were stolen from them.
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SSS, It is true and
August 15, 2007 - 14:57 ET by LeonSSS,
It is true and well-documented.
Now doesn't the Plame lead take on a bit of different light for you? Novak? Again?
This firing is conveniently ignored by many on the RIGHT that want to pretend the leaking of Plame was ok. I'll bet BUSH SR would disagree. Too bad his son didn't learn from his old man.
He's hated for many reasons. I can't tell you why everyone hates him. I dislike him b/c he's a manipulative self-interested liar. That's all.
"everyone" doesn't hate
August 15, 2007 - 15:00 ET by Hero Squad"everyone" doesn't hate him.
Really, you shouldn't hate so much.
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HS, I was referring to
August 15, 2007 - 15:02 ET by LeonHS,
I was referring to SSS's question as to why liberals hate Rove.
Sorry Mr. Literal, I should have said every liberal. I thought it was clear what I was responding to.
Looks like I've angered the President of the Karl Rove fan club. Supporters for the advancement of short, stocky, bulbous-headed American men.
Geez Leon...
August 15, 2007 - 15:07 ET by Six String SpiffLeon Says: "Looks like I've angered the President of the Karl Rove fan club. Supporters for the advancement of short, stocky, bulbous-headed American men."
C'mon Leon. Let's not bring the debate to attacks on one's looks. Let's pull this out of the sand box, shall we?
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"I was referring to SSS's
August 15, 2007 - 15:17 ET by Hero SquadOK, perhaps that's what you meant, but it's not what you said. And I certainly do support the advancement of short, stocky bulbous-headed American men.
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Link Leon?
August 15, 2007 - 15:05 ET by Six String SpiffThe Plame thing was a joke. A political witch hunt by the do nothing dems still fuming over their loses even after they WON CONGRESS! What does that tell you about the dems? Whine whine whine. (sarc?) If it's well documented, I'd like a link to it, if you have the time.
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Here's two Links (Sorry
August 15, 2007 - 15:19 ET by LeonHere's two Links (Sorry I'm doing a few things at once):
1) "In 1992 in an incident well known in Texas, Mr. Rove was fired from the state campaign to re-elect the first President Bush on suspicions that Mr. Rove had leaked damaging information to Mr. Novak about Robert Mosbacher Jr., the campaign manager and the son of a former commerce secretary."
Link (if you have time, read this whole article)
2) "Rove also told the grand jury, according to sources, that in the September 29 conversation, Novak referred to a 1992 incident in which Rove had been fired from the Texas arm of President George H.W. Bush's re-election effort; Rove lost his job because the Bush campaign believed that he had been the source for a Novak column that criticized the campaign's internal workings."
Link
Before you complain, yes Rove denies this ever happened (although he seems to have acknowledged it during the grand jury testimony) but he was FIRED and Mosbacher has never changed his story (he no longer speaks on the record about he incident)
Before I complain?
August 15, 2007 - 15:26 ET by Six String SpiffWhat? Complain about what? Thanks for the links.
BTW. If Karl Rove did indeed get fired and is just completely ignoring this fact. Welcome to how we feel about HRC and those documents that *poof* magically appeared in the Whitehouse after she denied ever seeing them. "I don't recall" Is one of her favorite lines to use. I will read the links completely. Catch you tomorrow.
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You lose, Leon
August 16, 2007 - 07:55 ET by Six String SpiffI take back my apology. Not that you ever accepted it in the first place. SUSPICION does not mean convicted. This doesn't surprise me though. You sent me to a NYT page... They don't use FACTS either. What was the point of your post? All I got from you is unfounded hatred. Typical.
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Yeah SSS, People get
August 16, 2007 - 08:59 ET by LeonYeah SSS,
People get fired for doing good things all the time.
Bush Senior fired him directly. To me that indicates wrong-doing.
BTW: Back to PLame AGAIN?! Cripes
August 15, 2007 - 15:10 ET by Six String SpiffSo, if VP's name was 'leaked', and there was an investigation for such crime, why was no one found guilty, let alone tried for the actual leak? This eludes me.
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Crickets = Leon
August 16, 2007 - 07:56 ET by Six String SpiffLeon? What say you? Im waaaaaiting.
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Plame has nothing to do with
August 16, 2007 - 09:00 ET by LeonPlame has nothing to do with our conversation except for the fact that it's the second shady incident involving rove and novak. The facts of the case are irrelevant to our current discussion.
If Karl Rove is allegedly
August 15, 2007 - 14:44 ET by Hero SquadIf Karl Rove is allegedly destroying the Republican party, then Democrats must love him, and be sad that he's leaving.
Oh they're not? Hmm, that's odd.
Wishful thinking does not a fact make.
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"Some people have a way with words. Other people, er, I don't know. Not have way, I guess." - Steve Martin
HS, No No No. He's not
August 15, 2007 - 14:46 ET by LeonHS,
No No No. He's not 'destroying', he's already DESTROYED.
Past tense. Sorry I should have been more clear. Dems cheer b/c his job is done. He's already destroyed the party. Now we cheer b/c it's good to see a truly evil person finally disappear.
"truly evil
August 15, 2007 - 14:53 ET by Hero SquadYou're joking, right? Just want to get it straight that you're just funnin' around, realizing that while there is cerrtainly true evil in this world, Karl Rove ain't it just because you happen to disagree with his politics... you know, people who rape and kill children, leaders who gas villages of their opponents who worship differently? Hitler? Aren't these the actual definitions of a "truly evil person"?
I should be expecting more than that from you Leon, shouldn't I? I'm really trying.
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"Some people have a way with words. Other people, er, I don't know. Not have way, I guess." - Steve Martin
Leon, you can't have it both ways.
August 15, 2007 - 15:01 ET by Six String SpiffWhy do the Dems hate him so much if he helped destroy the Republican party? We all know the Dems wouldn't shed a single tear if that were the case. On the contrary, they are bitching and moaning about him because they can no longer 'get' him the way they wanted to. Remeber that Plame thing that fell flat on its face? Rove was their number one target. You can't tell me he is truely evil with a straight face. When we have human debris like terrorists beheading people, and genocidal regimes that need changing. Those people are truely evil. I can't believe you put somebody in the evil category because you simply disagree with his politics. That's an exteme.
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SSS, There are different
August 15, 2007 - 15:04 ET by LeonSSS,
There are different types of evil.
For instance, ENRON/TYCO thiefs, are evil.
You don't have to kill somone to be evil.
You do realize that you are
August 15, 2007 - 15:12 ET by Hero SquadYou do realize that you are watering down the word so that it means little more than "someone who does something I don't like."
Thankfully, you and I have never been subjected to true evil personally. And hopefully it stays that way.
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"Some people have a way with words. Other people, er, I don't know. Not have way, I guess." - Steve Martin
Evil
August 15, 2007 - 15:15 ET by Six String SpiffI think you liberals hate anything that doen't agree with you. That is a conclusion I come to after only paying attention to politics for 8 years (since my senior year in HS) All I hear day in and day out are endless excuses and finger pointing from the left. I have not heard ONE, not ONE solution form these people.
Still waiting for that link too when you get to it.
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SSS...
August 15, 2007 - 15:12 ET by LionKingLiberal logic:
[btw, I am not sure if the Dumbocrats have ever explained "factually" what their issues with Rove are.]
LK
August 15, 2007 - 15:21 ET by Six String SpiffI have not heard one good reason why the Democrats have such hatred for the man either. I can never get a straight answer form them. It ALWAYS boils down to how he was a political genius that 'robbed' them of elections. I don't know who they hate more. GWB, Dick Cheney, or Karl Rove. The dems have SLS. Sore Loser Syndrome. Questioning EVERYTHING the president, and all of his cabinet does, when they know damn well it's well within his privilege.
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Rove evil???
August 15, 2007 - 15:28 ET by LionKingThe best the liberals can probably do is bring up something from 1992 that has never been PROVEN.
I wonder, hmm, is Leon in
August 15, 2007 - 21:55 ET by ahusserI wonder, hmm, is Leon in the "Bush is Hitler" camp.
But it doesn't work in the reverse
August 15, 2007 - 16:12 ET by Mithridate Ombud"All it shows is a dislike of lying, manipulative, self-interested scumbags. Seems pretty reasonable to me."
So did they cheer when Clinton was impeached? Probably not.
Ombud
August 16, 2007 - 08:01 ET by Six String SpiffLeon never has anything. Not one fact is ever used in any of his ranting. Notice how he vanished from the thread? Also, he used his SOP. Choose a thread, and ask where the bias is. When confronted with facts, run away. Repeat as necessary.
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Considering what editors earn...
August 15, 2007 - 14:47 ET by Hero SquadAs one who knows first hand how much newspaper editors and reporters earn on average, this doesn't altogether surprise me. I do find the stunned "I'm eff'd" look on his face in the mugshot above rather amusing.
Huzzah, Mithridate! That's a classic.
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"Some people have a way with words. Other people, er, I don't know. Not have way, I guess." - Steve Martin
Headline:
August 15, 2007 - 15:43 ET by rob6677Slime Doesn't Pay!
"I'm interested in the fact that the less secure a man is, the more likely he is to have extreme prejudice." Clint Eastwood
This is a diversion. Does
August 16, 2007 - 08:17 ET by buddycThis is a diversion. Does it make anyone happy that they were told not to cheer? NOT ME.
There needs to be a serious effort to comply with ethics in the news media. Firing people and/or a concerted effort to seek proper poliitcal diversity in the newsroom by hiring diversity will make me happy.
Speaking of diversity and ethics, Editor and Publisher has a long ways to go.
}}---> Never happen buddyc
August 16, 2007 - 08:23 ET by Cool ArrowTry defending the dismissal before the Grievance/Arbitration committee.
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