On yesterday's The Situation Room, CNN senior political analyst Gloria Borger spoke with host Suzanne Malveaux about polling done on ObamaCare:
MALVEAUX: Gloria, I want to start off with you.One thing that the polls were showing is that most Americans, they support this idea of this public option, but they also believe that the president wants the government to take over the health care system.
Well, how does that -- how do you make sense of that?GLORIA BORGER, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, in fact, 53 percent believe that Obama wants to take over the health care system, and 42 percent say no. And I think what this shows is that the Republican PR about President Obama being big government, big deficit, big spender, has really taken hold over the congressional recess. People believe that he wants big government.
What Borger is missing here is that the principal reason Americans view Obama as a big government, big deficit, big spending liberal is because he is. "Republican PR" might emphasize that simple truth, but the facts speak for themselves and many Americans would have arrived at the same conclusion regardless.
Last month, The Heritage Foundation's Brian M. Riedl reviewed some updated statistics from Obama's own administration:
The Office of Management and Budget has released its annual mid-session review that updates the budget projections from this past May. They show that this year, Washington will spend $30,958 per household, tax $17,576 per household, and borrow $13,392 per household. The federal government will increase spending 22 percent this year to a peacetime-record 26 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). This spending is not just temporary: President Obama would permanently keep annual spending between $5,000 and $8,000 per household higher than it had been under President George W. Bush.
Admittedly, most citizens don't know those precise numbers. At the same time, as they see Obama's heavy hand of government interference intruding more and more into our daily lives, as they see budget projections that even a year ago were unimaginable, as they come to a realization that there aren't enough "rich" people to fund more socialist schemes, they see Obama for what he is.
That doesn't require Republican PR. Is they weren't so biased, even the mainstream media could figure it out.
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So... Lemme Get This Straight
September 3, 2009 - 11:38 ET by BondPlainBondMalveaux begins the interview by knowingly stating incorrect poll information and her guest has to correct her.
Well, how does that -- how do you make sense of that?
We don't need no steenking
September 3, 2009 - 11:44 ET by Mike Batesfacts. We're the most trusted name in news. Or is that twisted?
Yeah, this whole thing
September 3, 2009 - 11:55 ET by ThisnThatYeah, this whole thing starts out wrong: the polls were showing that most Americans, they support this idea of this public option.
When you contantly tell lies, does that make you a liar? Not credible? A person with an agenda? Someone who can't be trusted?
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Well, ThisnThat
September 3, 2009 - 12:08 ET by Mike BatesShe may have been referring to the response to question #40 on this CNN poll.
Michael and thisinthat
September 3, 2009 - 12:23 ET by Gary Hall.. I was just looking at that and a few other polls as well. Here's how these results are coming about:
Most of the polls are asking the question the same way. Bet you that if the question was simply, "would you favor or oppose creating a new government run health insurance option?" .. that the results would be considerably different.
Now, if the quesiton is phrased, "would you favor or oppose creating a new government run health insurance option which would likely result in putting private insurance out of business?".. the results would also be considerably different.
It's a one-line push poll.
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Excellent point, Gary
September 3, 2009 - 12:25 ET by Mike Batesand you get points for succinctness, too!
Re competition
September 3, 2009 - 14:19 ET by slickwillie2001Hearing the liberals cry out for 'competition' is hilarious. These are the same people that flew into head-banging fits of rage when President George W. Bush suggested some private competition against the Social Security system. If conservatives today suggested that maybe we also need some private competition with the government Medicare system, we would also see them change gears instantly.
Most oppose bama's plan
September 3, 2009 - 15:35 ET by CobraMan"From everything you heard or read so far, do you favor or oppose Obama's plans to reform health care?"
48% favor
51% oppose
It looks like the majority oppose Obama's reform plans, including his "public option" that he's been promoting for over a month now. No wonder he's (kinda) dropped that proposal. Too bad for him it hasn't helped his polling rates.
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Run for your lives,
September 3, 2009 - 11:44 ET by HockeyKidRun for your lives, liberals--the truth is taking hold!!
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The headline should be:
September 3, 2009 - 11:46 ET by kgThe headline should be:
"The Truth about Obama Finally Being Realized by Those that Voted for Him"
"DumbAssity of Dope"
Those that Voted for Him
September 3, 2009 - 11:49 ET by Mike BatesTook 'em long enough, didn't it? And even now many BO voters - especially the young ones - still don't get it.
To libs
September 3, 2009 - 11:46 ET by Mike Batesthe truth is akin to waving a crucifix in Count Dracula's face.
Since when is mere
September 3, 2009 - 11:46 ET by mattmSince when is mere observation of facts "republican PR"?
mere observation of facts
September 3, 2009 - 11:47 ET by Mike BatesWhen His Messiahship's poll numbers start tanking because of them.
Whoes Polling Data She Looking At?
September 3, 2009 - 12:05 ET by Airforce_5_O"One thing that the polls were showing is that most Americans, they support this idea of this public option, but they also believe that the president wants the government to take over the health care system."
So are we dealing in facts or talking point dear? I mean Stevie Wonder could see right through your statement.
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Polling Data She Looking At?
September 3, 2009 - 12:09 ET by Mike BatesPerhaps question #40 on this CNN poll.
Didn't See that.
September 3, 2009 - 12:27 ET by Airforce_5_OSeems they framed the question in a left leaning direction.
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left leaning direction
September 3, 2009 - 12:30 ET by Mike BatesAs long as they get the desired results. . .
PR!
September 3, 2009 - 12:09 ET by Meredith1966It ain't PR, Chickie-babe, it's called people figuring out the truth for themselves. President Obama is so effective at showing his true colors that no 'Republican PR' is necessary!
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PR!
September 3, 2009 - 12:11 ET by Mike BatesIt's funny that the GOP is, at least generically, going up in the polls while not launching much of an offense. They should just stand back and let the Demos devour themselves.
Once again, a liberal - in
September 3, 2009 - 12:10 ET by Chris NormanOnce again, a liberal - in this instance Borger, slips in a quick line that alters the truth. This time, about "GOP PR" - implying that the American people aren't intelligent enough to look at what's happening and arrive at a rejection of liberal policies by themselves. No, they have to be "tricked" by fancy PR, which is something from the GOP I haven't seen much evidence of.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Slippery Gloria, Chris
September 3, 2009 - 12:13 ET by Mike BatesThat must be why she qualifies to hold the coveted CNN senior political analyst title.
As in Slip Transit Gloria,
September 3, 2009 - 12:19 ET by Chris NormanAs in Slip Transit Gloria, Michael? :)
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Careful. Chris
September 3, 2009 - 12:22 ET by Mike BatesThis may get me trying to recall the Confiteor. In Latin, natch.
"GLORIA BORGER, CNN SENIOR
September 3, 2009 - 12:26 ET by Alana"GLORIA BORGER, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, in fact, 53 percent
believe that Obama wants to take over the health care system, and 42
percent say no. And I think what this shows is that the Republican PR
about President Obama being big government, big deficit, big spender,
has really taken hold over the congressional recess. People believe
that he wants big government."
That is absolutely hilarious. Someone who thinks that other people are so stupid that they wouldn't notice that Obama is big government, big deficit, and big spending unless someone else points it out to them first is . . . really, really stupid.
really, really stupid
September 3, 2009 - 12:29 ET by Mike BatesGloria's bucking for a raise, or maybe the title senior senior CNN political analyst.
what are they going to call it ??
September 3, 2009 - 12:26 ET by wizardjrThey beat 'Swiftboating' into the ground some time back, during the electioneering.
So what marvelous rubric are they going to coin for telling the truth this time?
Answer:
September 5, 2009 - 19:31 ET by ThisnThatAnswer: Racism.
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Telling the truth about
September 3, 2009 - 12:39 ET by robert108Telling the truth about Obama is not "PR". Obama's hype has worn off, exposing him as the Leninist that he is.
Oh right, the
September 3, 2009 - 12:41 ET by Six String SpiffOh right, the 'propaganda'.
No it couldn't possibly be the mountain of decisions made by the O administration the support said 'propaganda'. No it couldn't be that.
Propaganda
September 3, 2009 - 12:43 ET by Mike BatesNext, they'll claim that the public's perception of Obama is all Bush's fault.
I take it critical thinking
September 3, 2009 - 13:04 ET by MightyMouthI take it critical thinking and simple observational skills are not requirements to land a job at CNN?
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Obama...
September 3, 2009 - 13:07 ET by adamsmithObama is a big government guy? No, really? Let's see, his mommy was a commie, his daddy was a Kenyan commie, his grandparents,you know, the "typical" white people were communist sympathizers, his mentor "Frank" was a commie, he sought out "Marxist Professors" at ultra-liberal Colombia University, his green czar is a self avowed communist......Am I the only one seeing a pattern here? I really hope not...
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I think Gloria Borger is too stoopid to be biased
September 3, 2009 - 14:08 ET by R D HelmI still think CNN issues an IQ test during the hiring process. Anyone who scores above say, room temperature, gets their app tossed into the reject pile.
Hey, Gloria, your hero Comrade Chairman Obama just blew $12 trillion out of the treasury that we don't even have, and has quadrupled the deficit in just eight months, and wants to spend trillions more (that we don't have, either.)
We don't need the GOP to tell us what we already know, and that is the Obama "presidency" is shaping up to be such a hideous disaster for this nation that most of us old enough will soon be looking back fondly on the Carter years.
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So Dave
September 3, 2009 - 16:30 ET by Mike BatesI still think CNN issues an IQ test during the hiring process. Anyone who scores above say, room temperature, gets their app tossed into the reject pile.
Rick Sanchez is the exception to the rule?
Michael,
September 3, 2009 - 16:39 ET by R D HelmSomebody must have switched trash cans they day he took his test. :-)
-Dave
Even when the government tries to kiss you, it is just a prelude to a good screwing. -Neal Boortz
Is she really a blond?
September 4, 2009 - 04:48 ET by ChattychitoI mean really is she an airhead or what? The popular knowledge of Obama being big government, big deficit, big spender is clear in his policies it is not Republican PR.
People see what he is doing and they know what will happen if left unchecked. It is great to see even those who voted for him are now seeing this as well.
the best thing would be for the mainstream media to stop reporting on anything Obama does. you see the real promotion of his being big government, big deficit, big spender is the Media. go figure.
Mainline media if you want Obama to succeed then stop reporting on anything he proposes to do. otherwise you are helping him to fail
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