CBS's Norah O'Donnell Presses Michele Bachmann On What 'Submissive' Means
On Sunday's Face The Nation, CBS's Norah O'Donnell interrogated Congresswoman Michele Bachmann on a 2006 statement she made about being "submissive" to her husband. O'Donnell not only played a clip of the five-year-old moment, but asked her three questions about the biblical verse: "What do you mean wives should be submissive to their husbands?...Do you think submissive means subservient?" [audio available here]
The fill-in anchor raised the issue, which also came up during the recent Republican presidential debate in Ames, Iowa, near the end of the interview. Bachmann more or less repeated her answer from that debate in reply to O'Donnell's question:
[Video clips below the jump]
BACHMANN: ...[F]or my husband and I, submission means respect, mutual respect. I respect my husband. He respects me. We've been married thirty-three years. We have a great marriage. We've built a business together. We've had five children together. We raised twenty-three foster children together in our home. And respecting each other, listening to each other, is what that means.
Seemingly not satisfied with this answer, the CBS journalist then asked, "Would you use a different word today other than submissive?" When the Republican reused her "respect" term, O'Donnell inquired if "submissive" meant "subserviant."
The transcript of the relevant portion of Norah O'Donnell's interview of Rep. Michele Bachmann, starting at the 38 minutes into the 10 am Eastern hour mark on Sunday's Face The Nation:
NORAH O'DONNELL: Congresswoman, let me turn to something you said in 2006. I want to play the audio, so our viewers-
REP. MICHELE BACHMANN, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Sure-
O'DONNELL: Can hear this as well. Let's listen.
BACHMANN (audio clip of October 2006 speech at Living Word Christian Center): My husband said, 'Now you need to go and get a post-doctorate degree in tax law.' Tax law!? I hate taxes. Why should I go into something like that? But the Lord says, be submissive. Wives, you are to be submissive to your husbands."
O'DONNELL: Congressman, what do you mean wives should be submissive to their husbands?
BACHMANN: Well, there was a debate earlier this week and that question was asked in the debate. And for my husband and I, submission means respect, mutual respect. I respect my husband. He respects me. We've been married thirty-three years. We have a great marriage. We've built a business together. We've had five children together. We raised twenty-three foster children together in our home. And respecting each other, listening to each other, is what that means.
O'DONNELL: Would you use a different word today other than submissive?
BACHMANN: You know, I guess it depends on what word people are used to, but respect is really what it means.
O'DONNELL: Do you think submissive means subservient?
BACHMANN: Not to us. To us, it means respect. We respect each other, we listen to each other, we love each other, and that is what it means.
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It's a relevant question if
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 6:45pm.
It's a relevant question if she's going to be a legitimate candidate. She should be happy she got a chance to explain it.
Maybe YOU should be glad YOU can still reply here!
Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 6:59pm.
Why dont they ask O'Bozo questions like that?
Jersey in the house?
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:12pm.
Jersey in the house?
Yeah - and me too
Submitted by FastEd on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:44pm.
got a problem wit dat?
Just because the state is red, desen't mean some of can't think for ourselves, we're just trying to keep the spenders in line.
"We the People . . " Hey, congress - I'm one of the people - start listening!
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
They are playing her against her Husband
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:05pm.
Absolutely shameful. Anyone doubt Obama or Clinton were/are not influenced by their wives. Who the heck listens to these cretins anymore.
The average person hears
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:11pm.
The average person hears "submissive" and is not going to equate that with respect.
And frankly, if your husband is going to claim he can "cure" homosexuality, then questions lime this are going to pop up.
Source??
Submitted by Joe W. on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:21pm.
Please provide your source for where Marcus Bachmann claims he can "cure" homosexuality. You are nothing short of a lying troll, pal. And not a very good one at that.
Yea, how about it Bal
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:51pm.
Where did he claim he could cure Homo's. I beleive Joe has you by the short ones
I misspoke. He's claimed that
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:53pm.
I misspoke. He's claimed that his practice doesn't do this, but there have been exposés that say otherwise. He's on tape as saying gays are barbarians that need to be educated, disciplined, etc.
No doubt your claim
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:56pm.
Is in proper context and pure as the driven Snow. Good grief
Boudin---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:21pm.
balboa is a liberal; he is REQUIRED to go with the 'exposes' that say otherwise.
MD
Yea I know,
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:23pm.
Just checking, as they say.
Save the misspoke crap.
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:01pm.
You lied. There is no such thing as MISSPOKE here. Man or Nan up. The psychotic that came up with that one obviously has company.
Well you can not believe me
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:44pm.
Well you can not believe me if you want, but I didn't lie. I thought I had read that this was his claim, and I was wrong.
Marcus Bachmann clinic...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:07pm.
The evidence is somewhat mixed and can be used by either side to defend or indict depending on the respective agendas. But Mr. Bachmann has explicitly denied making the "homosexual cure" claim and there is no "smoking gun" proof that he did. On the other hand, investigations involving counseling and literature provided by the clinic reveal practices which lend some credence to the more general accusations, but not conclusive evidence. Still, enough to render the "lying troll" label a little extreme.
Jer
BULL
Submitted by Joe W. on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:12pm.
That's BS, Jer. Just like most of your drivel. The dude lied straight up, and I'm merely calling a spade a spade.
Let's dwell on the positive, Joe W...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:27pm.
What portions of my drivel do you consider not to be BS? If every instance of misspeaking, making an incorrect statement, posting an erroneous assertion or one of debatable veracity , were met with an accusation of "lying troll", the nasty discourse would be flying fast and furious and consuming great segments of thread space.
Jer
Ahh, c'mon Jer,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:50pm.
don't deny your favorite tormentor a fun, albeit it normal day, at NB's.
"Lying troll", while truly a redundant phrase, describes far too many of the types who slither and slime around these threads until their inevitable appointment time with the ban hammer arrives.
House libs, for the most part, are exempt, as they should be, from charges of out and out lying because they have established their lib personas as maybe argumentative, but certainly not mendacious.
Newer posters don't always see that initially.
MD
That's a stretch Jer
Submitted by Denny Crane on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:35pm.
if your husband is going to claim he can "cure" homosexuality,
He only corrected himself when called on the lie.
We Are The 53%
What's a stretch, Denny...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:05pm.
I'm referring to the clinic, not Marcus Bachmann personally, and I noted there was no clear evidence he had ever made any such statement and had explicitly denied it. But do you really believe bal, knowing otherwise, deliberately lied about it? That's the accusation. We all make mistakes. Bal acknowledged he misspoke. Those who have been here for a long time know he's not a liar.
Jer
Jer, you know better than that
Submitted by Denny Crane on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:19pm.
Liberals commenting on conservative sites don't make mistakes. They lie. Only conservatives commenting on conservative sites can make mistakes.
;-)
We Are The 53%
You would think Jer, of all folks
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:24pm.
Would know that by now?
You're right of course..all of you. For a minute there I forgot
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:29pm.
where I was.
Bal...you lying b*stard!
Jer
Absolutely a great---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:39pm.
sense of humor.
We shall convert you yet, Jer, as anyone that funny has GOT to have more conservative genes than liberal ones. :o)
MD
OK, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:26pm.
I will agree with your statement - but the absolute vacuousness of many of bal's reply posts tend, IMO, to demonstrate a naivete that appears to be faked. IF so, that is a form of untruthfulness.
Point: If bal knew otherwise, but stated differently, a valid surmise that he lied can be offered.
bal, and only bal, knows the situation exactly; but given that none of us are likely to be mind-readers, Denny's query of or statement about bal is as legitimate as is your defense of him.
MD
the average person?
Submitted by stehill51 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:16pm.
the average person viewing the relationship btwn Bachman and her husband is NOT going to equate "submissive" as meaning Michele is subservient to the husband..... think about that.
Curing homosexuality
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:24pm.
I know this is going to be unpopular, but so what if Bachman tries to cure homosexuality? It is unnatural and leads to a variety of health and social problems. He's not advocating treating gays any differently than straight people, but saying, if they want to change, here's a way.
Why is it normal is now wrong?
its only wrong during this
Submitted by TruthMonger on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 11:25am.
its only wrong during this historic period of decadence - which happens every few hundred years or so - but inevitably decadence collapses under its own weight
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
Yeah, bal---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:13pm.
like the MSM types would have ever asked that question of Hillary, as a "legitimate candidate", back when.
She, the spouse of Slick Willie, the oh-so ostentatious bible carrying, Sunday-go-to-meeting, skirt-chasing prez.
Interviewer:
"Mrs. Clinton, as a Christian woman, will you be submissive to your husband when elected?"
HRC:
"What? Are you serious? (Pelosi's most intellectual offering in a way too long career in politics) You're not a liberal, you are part of a vast right-wing conspiracy."
Up in a huff, exit stage right.
Sound of breaking furniture, lights, and cameras.
Also heard from Hillary the harridan, "Who screwed up this interview appointment? We have got to make sure we get OUR people in place here."
Much like the White House Travel Office massacre, the first semi-public incidence of the Hildabeast revealing her nastiness.
MD
Did Hillary ever say anything
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:16pm.
Did Hillary ever say anything about being submissive?
Once again, bal---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:22pm.
you apparently (purposely?) miss the point.
MD
No, md, I know what you're
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:40pm.
No, md, I know what you're saying. But that doesn't change the fact that it's a legitimate question to ask Bachmann.
That is strictly your liberal opinion, bal---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:48pm.
and in this day and age, that was nothing more than an insulting gotcha question, and you know it.
MD
How is it insulting?
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:51pm.
How is it insulting? Bachmann's the one who said it.
Context, bal---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:23pm.
CONTEXT.
Jesus Cristo'.
MD
Give me the context. Spell it
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:16pm.
Give me the context. Spell it out for me.
bal---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:55pm.
Context.
C,o,n,t,e,x,t.
Context.
Liberal media gotcha question.
The CONTEXT being LIBERAL MEDIA; sort of the basis for NewsBusters existence.
The lib media asks gotcha questions ONLY of conservative types.
Got another silly question?
MD
But we're getting ridiculous
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:01pm.
But we're getting ridiculous now. By this standard, nobody in the MSM is allowed to ask anything other than a complete softball question. So even if the question is fair -- which this one absolutely is -- it's quickly dismissed as "bias."
bal
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:02pm.
Just curious, how often is a democrat asked anything BUT a softball question?
Rad---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:35pm.
bal chose to ignore what I said about the lib media asking gotcha questions only of conservatives.
His failure to address that is exactly why NB's exists, though his avoiding it could be considered a 'photo negative' stance in that he framed the 'media asking questions' as he did, as a kind of diffusive emulsifier.
Not sure what that means, but it sure sounded good, eh? :o)
MD
I'm sure there are gotcha
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 9:10am.
I'm sure there are gotcha questions out there for the left, although it seems the definition of gotcha question is pretty all-encompassing. As I said, by your standards, the MSM shouldn't ask a conservative anything tougher than, "what's your favorite butterfly?"
"what's your favorite butterfly?"
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 10:37am.
I wish someone would ask Barney Fwank, "What's your favorite fly?"
You need to cut Bachmann some slack, bal. It is possible that she has been sitting in the same house with her husband for the last 20 years and not heard a word that he said. Bambi already proved that you can do that in the Rev Wright's church.
Or maybe the definition of "submissive" depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
And Bubba Clinton already proved that "putting a little ice on that" will cure getting slapped silly upside the head for not giving him a Lewinski.
Maybe the same think could cure a submissive homosexual. Who knows for sure?
Extraordinary spin, bal---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 12:18pm.
on what my standards are.
Not to mention an amazing ability to read my mind.
You can't even man up enough to admit that the liberal media gives Dems the soft stuff, and non-Dems the nasty, snarky crap.
Probably what makes you an exemplary lib; and that is NO compliment.
MD
I have no problem admitting
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 1:44pm.
I have no problem admitting that that occurs, a lot of the time.
Can you admit what I said is true?
Reference what, bal---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 1:49pm.
that you said my standards are that only questions about butterfly preference should be allowed?
No, that is NOT true.
MD
Obviously that was hyperbole.
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:13pm.
Obviously that was hyperbole. The point being that it's getting to the point that ANY even halfway-challenging question posed of a conservative politician will be dismissed as bias, meaning that only easy questions will be "allowable" under these standards.
Which, if and when it happens, bal---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 3:04pm.
will be completely and irrevocably the fault of the liberal MSM.
MD
If and when? I think this
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 3:10pm.
If and when? I think this site is evidence it has occurred.
A blinding glimpse, bal, of the ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 11:57pm.
obvious.
Of a certainty, NewsBusters has proven over and over again that the liberal media asks bias based questions of Republicans all out of proportion to those, if any, they ask Democrats.
MD
And OBumer said
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:03pm.
57 states, corps man, handing purple hearts to the dead, the list is quite long. Care to go one on one bullboyee?
Bal, I know you get the point,
Submitted by FastEd on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:48pm.
but, when are these lefitimate questions going to be asked of ANY candidate on the left side of the aisle? Why was the pres never asked, "How did you get into law school?" "Can we see your wife's doctoral dissertation?" "How did you sit in rev Wright's schurch and never hear his rants against the US?" "Did it ever bother you about W. Aires past, the bombings and killings?"
"We the People . . " Hey, congress - I'm one of the people - start listening!
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Two of those are legitimate,
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:56pm.
Two of those are legitimate, the last two.
Wrong, and you know it.
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:02pm.
Those are all legit questions to ask of President Present, along with other gems like, how did you qualify for student aid, how did you travel to Pahk-eee-stahn when Americans couldn't travel there, and what were your grades in the core classes required to graduate from hah-vahd?
UpNorth...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:21pm.
I could be wrong, but I doubt any President has been asked to produce the academic theses authored by his wife. I believe the Pahk---eee---stahn travel controversy has been satisfactorily clarified. College grades? Probably fair game in this day and age. I think part of Bush's record was initially released without authorization, and then he later voluntarily released remaining transcripts during the 2004 campaign. Obama didn't deny hearing controversial sermonizing by Wright, just not the really egregious 'G-D America' stuff.
Jer
You are knee jerking again, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:31pm.
and while it is understandable (1), it is also habitual (2).
Number 1 is likely because you are a liberal.
Number 2 IS because you are a liberal attempting to ameliorate both the history, and the current debacle that is the ruinous pos in the White House.
And you wonder why people get on your case around here.
MD
I see you managed to once again critique and criticize my
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 12:07am.
politics, mannerisms, and motives rather than actually address the substantive issues--the former is easy, the latter requires effort. But that's who you are and what you do so why should I expect anything different.
Jer
I see you managed to once again---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 12:29am.
whine about me critiquing your politics, mannerisms, and motives, while failing to address anything substantive.
You might want to consider the humorous irony in how you phrased what you just posted.
MD
MD
Submitted by MrShy on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 1:13am.
I'm still waiting on ME ME ME ME (oh, and) ME ME to deliver on a simple request to explain to us, in his own words, what was "mind-blowing" about that Scraps post.
We need to bottle Jer and add him to the next rocket we shoot into space -- the perfect example of an impossible, pretzel-twisting Liberal earthling.
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Shy---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 1:42am.
I believe that what Scrapiron had to say, and especially how he said it, was indeed, VERY rough, and given the current attitudes, maybe should not have been posted.
Problem is, from my perspective anyway, what he said contained enough truth - poorly stated - that it should not have been shouted down as a purely racist statement.; and when a man cannot speak the truth without being condemned by the politically correct crowd, in that direction lies a place I do not wish to reside in.
MD
Sure, there was a grain of truth to it....
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:41am.
A disproportionate number of blacks ARE unemployed, on welfare, commit crimes, drop out of school, are products of single parent/fractured families. The problem is the point at which Scrapiron's extending those social pathologies to embrace virtually the entire race that his perspective degenerates from accurate and realistic observation to insidious generalizations and stereotyping and is extraordinarily unfair to the millions of blacks about which none of those negative behaviors are applicable.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by MrShy on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 3:33am.
Read it again.
It was based on his first-hand knowledge of knowing blacks. So, it's not about "social pathologies", and nowhere in that post is he extending things into some grand stereotype, beyond pointing out that this lifestyle and brand of behavior is certainly happening all around him by this segment of his community, from experiences in his day to day life (so he claims, and so I surmise.)
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Shy...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 3:42am.
Read it again. He trashed every black he knows.. He expects us to believe that he doesn't know A SINGLE BLACK who is not shacked up with a "HO", etc. Sorry, I just don't accept that as a credible statement.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by MrShy on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 3:52am.
"He trashed every black he knows."
He claims every black he knows is, on some level, living up to their stereotype, yes. And?
"He expects us to believe that he doesn't know A SINGLE BLACK who is not shacked up with a "HO", etc."
So, then, the issue here is, you don't believe him or his claim. Fine then. And your obsessing on him calling them "Ho's" for some reason. He sees this all around him, so, he's naturally fed up and using words that will inflame sensitive libs like yourself. But, again, all bets are off as you don't trust his story. Fine.
Either way, the claim -- while I can't verify it -- I hardly find "mind-blowing", when you look at our world today.
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Shy...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 4:03am.
He claims that 90% of blacks are unemployed, which is a demonstrable falsehood. Do you consider that claim mind-blowing? Scrapiron seriously damages his credibility right out of the box.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by MrShy on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 11:11am.
You're being a knucklehead now, on purpose. (I know this, as Liberals are smart but they play dumb when it suits them.)
I've countless times said this discussion (between you and me) is about Scraps first post from that thread. I shouldn't have to keep reminding you of this, as your response to that particular post is the only place on that thread where I came on and addressed you. That was the post you considered "mind-blowing". I even went and deconstructed it.
That is not the post with the 90% of blacks are unemployed stat. And you know it.
You're exhausting. And yeah, you continue to be dishonest when you debate.
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Shy....
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 11:50am.
You are either a liar or an idiot or both. THIS is the post of Scrapiron to which I responded and called mind-blowing:
Employe or unemployed.
Submitted by Scrapiron on Wed, 08/10/2011 - 9:24pm.
If she said only whites work she would have a score of over 90% since less than 10% of blacks ever work. Every one I know today is shacking up with a 'Ho' and a pack of animals (some call them children) in government housing and eating off her food stamps. Illegal but no one in social services bothers to check and if they do they don't say anything. They have to keep the welfare rolls full or they'll lose their own cushy jobs.
Old, Retired and glad of it.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/08/10/rick-santelli-stri...
Do you notice the statement asserting that "less than 10% of blacks ever work"? If you are incapable of doing the math, that translates to a claim that over 90% of blacks are unemployed. That is the post--the one quoted above--to which I responded and elicited the comments from you addressed to me. Scrapiron did post a similar comment further down the thread mentioning black unemployment which UpNorth and RESTLESS slammed as bigoted, but that was not the one I had replied to nor the one you kept challenging me about.
You need help, Shy. You are one seriously messed up dude. Maybe Dr Sam has an opening.
Jer
Probably not, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 12:20pm.
his schedule is likely filled up with liberals and lawyers.
MD
That's a good point. And I've been concerned Dr Sam's practice
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 1:34pm.
has become somewhat mono-dimensional. This should broaden his knowledge base in relation to ideological psychopathy.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by MrShy on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:27pm.
My bad, you're right that he opened with 90%, which, after I broached you on it, I just focused on his subsequent sentences which you kept referring to in your "outrage".
He mentioned 90% again further down, starting a new thread on that same page, and I somehow thought that was when he brought the stat up for the first time.
Well, that opening salvo by him would be the closest thing to "mind-blowing", I guess. But, again, it hardly is in the context of things and the reverse-racism MSM b.s. he's reacting to. He's pissed off that the MSM is calling whites unemployed, so he's just turning the tables on a group that we know does have a higher unemployment number... he just exaggerated a lot for effect. Big dea, IMO.
I'm sure he's posted more stuff that paints a clearer picture of him, which I'm not privy to, but that post was just a riled up conservie pushing back, and, according to him, he sees these problems first-hand.
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Well, thank you for that, Shy...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:32pm.
And I take back what I said in the previous post. When I sign back in, we can discuss this further if you like.
Jer
Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 3:22am.
Allow me to borrow some of your well said words---
" --perspective degenerates from accurate and realistic observation to insidious generalizations and stereotyping and is extraordinarily unfair to the millions of--' - white conservatives - "about which none of those negative behaviors are applicable."
Precisely the problem most of us conservatives have with liberals and Democrats being race card flicking bastards; except that they didn't "let it degenerate" into lies, they started out there.
MD
MD
Submitted by MrShy on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 3:14am.
Well, IMO, it was only how he said it that was perhaps questionable. And FYI, that specific post of his, only.
But then, I'm also at my wits end with a lot of things in this country, so maybe I'm being overly non-PC at times.
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Shy---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 3:32am.
I agree.
"How" he said it.
I believe that if we do not stay alert, and on guard regarding this politically correct BS, the fools will take over completely.
"For every action, there is a reaction - opposite and equal."
Payback is coming, and it will be deserved.
That is not a threat, but the fact remains when the status quo gets back to where common sense prevails, that in itself will have most libs squealing and gnashing their teeth as if they were somehow being punished for the transgressions foisted on this country because of PC.
That alone will be satisfactory.
MD
MD
Submitted by MrShy on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 3:55am.
We still have slave owners -- or wannabe's -- in this country, and those people are left-wing progressives.
They want to enslave all the "lesser" people.
Liberalism is wretched.
I point the finger directly at them for the "regressive", backward "progress" we've made over these past decades. This country is now more divided than ever, and they are the culprits... the creators... of this culture.
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Shy...I have already done so and will continue to do so with
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:49am.
those who are concerned about my views rather than those, such as you, who have made the issue ME by prejudging my integrity. I'll say it one more time: I'm not interested in debating issues with someone who considers me a fraud.
So the ball is in your court.
Jer
"Shy...I have already done so
Submitted by MrShy on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 3:19am.
"Shy...I have already done so and will continue to do so with those who are concerned about my views rather than those, such as you, who have made the issue ME by prejudging my integrity. I'll say it one more time: I'm not interested in debating issues with someone who considers me a fraud."
And yet, finally, you get around to deconstructing the post at issue substantively, but in your reply to MD right above, instead. Your obsession with yourself and your "relationship" with posters here, which you can't wait to deconstruct, makes you a fascinating study, if nothing else.
JasonC, we miss you.
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Just give me a simple yes or no answer, Shy...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 3:34am.
In the past, you have called me a fraud. Is that still your opinion?
And, yes, I know your favorite lib is Jason--the guy you said had no business posting at NewsBusters and should leave. Well, you got your wish because except for a rare comment every now and then he has been run off.
Jer
Was JasonC run off,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 4:04am.
or has he voluntarily chosen to reduce the amount of posting he does?
And if that were the case, could it be because he had his head stomped on verbally from time to time, or would you prefer to take a partisan viewpoint and say that ol' JasonC just tired of wasting his brilliance on Neanderthal knuckle draggers who could not possibly know how to properly respect a liberal's world healing powers?
MD
However
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:05pm.
Name any other president that sealed their academic and medical records? Where there's smoke, there's BO lighting one up.
If you have the link to anything on Obama's ability to
Submitted by UpNorth on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 11:39am.
use an American passport to travel to a country where American's couldn't travel, could you post it, Jer? I'd like to read how it's been "satisfactorily clarified".
Most everything untoward, UpNorth, ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 12:32pm.
that accuses liberals, Dems, or minorities, of anything, has been "satisfactorily clarified" by Jer, via him stating his partisan opinion.
Especially statements involving Slick Willie or the Hildebeeste.
He did acknowledge that the Slickster acted 'recklessly' with Lewinsky; but I think he was just experiencing temporary brain fade when that occurred.
MD
Nope
Submitted by Joe W. on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:23pm.
Because, like the rest of the country, Hillary does not respect Slick Willie, the pants around the ankles President.
Here Ya Go Bal
Submitted by stratman on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:29pm.
Um, yes. Not only talked submissively, and with a phony Southern White accent, but her body language was submissive as well. (I swear, Hillary has more looks and accents than a Peter Sellers movie)
I see, Hillary respects the man who has been having numerous adulterous affairs during their marraige which was at that moment causing intense psychological pain and humiliation for her?
Snuggle a little closer to your man, Hillary, when Kroft asks Bill the depth of his relationship with Flowers and whether Hillary knew. (begins at 0:58 mark)
Pure contrivance.
Don't forget that lighting used in the 60 Minutes filming fell during the interview close to Hillary. I don't doubt these two liars at least thought, if not joked to themselves, that it was symbolic of God's lightning bolt for their "strike me down if I lie" performance.
Real questions from a working media
Submitted by ant on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 10:25am.
"Mr. President, you claim to be Christian, so what did you mean by '..my muslim faith..'?"
"What did you mean by 'spread the wealth' or 'at some point, I think you've made enough money'?"
"Why was your first act as President to seal your records and why did you immediately begin work on Healthcare legislation with the economy in such bad shape and with so many Americans against the idea?"
Never gonna happen.
Gee, who woulda thunk it not being a fair interview?
Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 6:47pm.
O'Donnell, whos a member of the loony left, trying to give a "fair and balanced" interview with Rep Bachmann?
Therein lies the danger
Submitted by 4eyes50 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 6:58pm.
of taking Scripture out of context. Though Eph. 5:22 does say, "Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.", the verse immediately before that says, "Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ." These relationships referred to are the Christian household and Christian congregation, respectively. When it comes to matters of the family, the man, as head of the household, should be consulted when making decisions concerning the family. Notice the scripture does not use the word obey, meaning that the wife is not subservient to the husband.
If she were to become president, Mrs. Bachmann would not have to defer to her husband when making decisions concerning matters of state. As a Christian woman, she would probably turn to God for guidance. I don't see a problem with the answer she gave about respect. I can understand Ms. O'Donnell's problem with the word "submit", being a feminist and all.
Now please, I don't want to hear from the ladies that I'm a sexist - I'm just quoting scripture. Don't kill the messenger!
ODonnell should be asked about....
Submitted by jmigyanka@msn.com on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:34pm.
.........her tweet that claimed OBAMA was shot! When really OSAMA was shot....dumb and submissive!
You guys had better hope she
Submitted by jimspice on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:38pm.
You guys had better hope she doesn't submit! Are you familiar with the guy? Talk about your sleeper cells. And it's of the kind I know you guts don't appreciate.
~We guts can handle it
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:13pm.
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Why would she run anyway? Has she read the Bible?
Submitted by connect4 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:44pm.
1 Timothy 2:11-15 ESV
Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.
We are going to hell for letting women teach and hold office. It's in the Bible people. God wasn't joking.
Thank you LIBTARDS for giving
Submitted by connect4 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:46pm.
Thank you LIBTARDS for giving women rights. Makes me sick how far we have come from the good old days.
~Excuse me?
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:48pm.
Why don't you just crawl back under your rock and beat your wife until you feel better.
Well, I guess some of use
Submitted by connect4 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:53pm.
Well, I guess some of use believe the Bible, and some just pick and choose what we want to believe.
~Funny thing
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:01pm.
Rahab was a whore. God used her to help the Israelites..and King David and Christ are descended from her. Israelites weren't supposed to inter-marry with Moabites..but Ruth the Moabitess was King David's great-grandmother.
Gee, looks like God can use anyone He pleases to do His will. Fancy that.
Show me where the Pope is telling Woman to quit
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:02pm.
There jobs or risk Hell? I think you have the wrong Religion, I think you mean the cult that is Islam
Crawl back? I don't see any evidence of his having
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:00pm.
crawled out.
Jer
Jer,
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:47pm.
He will just as soon as he manages to get those four remaining brain cells to somehow connect. :-^)
LOL - Of course, that might take a while.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
More of God's wisdom about
Submitted by connect4 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:51pm.
More of God's wisdom about women:
1 Peter 3:1-22 ESV
Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives, when they see your respectful and pure conduct. Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear— but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious. For this is how the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves, by submitting to their own husbands, ...
~True sign of a sicko control freak
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:55pm.
Someone who spends his time studying up on what other people are supposed to do. Why don't you just read up on what it says about how husbands should treat wives and go do it. How other men's wives live their lives isn't your business.
Your going to make lots of freinds
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:52pm.
Just wait,
These are God's words, not
Submitted by connect4 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:54pm.
These are God's words, not mine. Are you suggesting that the Bible is not the word of God? Good conservatives here, Newsbusters.
Connect4,
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:58pm.
you're going to go far in advancing your cause of conservativism. I can tell that you've already brought a lot of folks over to see that your way is the only way./sarc
I'll step out of the line of fire, now.
I am suggesting that if you continue
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:58pm.
To ridicule Women using the bible, you will have a very short stay here at NB's.
Good evening connect4*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:01pm.
There are good conservatives here at NB. We also believe in God's word and as He says to us, we also have compassion for others. For instance, I feel great sorrow for the women in your life, if there are any. I will pray for them.
~'Like'
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:02pm.
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Proud woman*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:20pm.
Here is a woman with great accomplishments in her life She is also a proud Christian
Here is another proud Christian with great achievements but cant really call her submissive regardless of her calling
Now this woman also had a strong faith but we really cant call this woman submissive
Just so that you remember that being a good conservative and Christian woman does not mean we must be submissive to any man. A man that may be evil, corrupt, and controlling is not a Christian. Just to be prepared for all kinds of men in this world, I have read the bible.
Cajun is now going to introduce herself to connect4
~That last one needed a beverage alert, caj
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:22pm.
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What is really cool about cajun's link is---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:36pm.
that Marjorie Main, as 'Ma Kettle', pretty much ruled the roost over 'Pa Kettle' (Percy Kilbride).
MD
~Just a wee bit before my time, I think
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:11pm.
:-p
I wonder if they've got it on YT.
Bru---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:57pm.
The two or three "Ma and Pa Kettle" films were before my time, and I be old.
MD
Bru and MD
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:01pm.
My dear departed father used to listen to Ma and Pa Kettle on the radio.
Now there was an art form.
Rad---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:08pm.
Modernity, in so many ways, is good.
A lot of the circumstances from the good old days, though, are truly missed.
Like, for instance, my youth. :o)
MD
I pray they never teach me
Submitted by connect4 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:13pm.
I pray they never teach me anything or hold any office above me, as God has commanded, as I am a Christian--not some liberal so-called Christian.
I'm being ironic, by the way, to point out how horrible the God in Bible is towards women.
Let's not leave out the
Submitted by connect4 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:23pm.
Let's not leave out the Founders. They also agreed that women have no place in politics.
So, I guess we can all agree that the Bible is not the word of God, and the Founders were kinda dicks. I guess that makes everyone here a Progressive, and not a Conservative. Hmm. Isn't that what I've been saying this whole time?
Go back and read it again.
Submitted by MikeB on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:26pm.
Go back and read it again. Paul was talking about within the Christian congregation, not the secular world. There were women prophets and teachers in both the Old and New Testaments.
As for your prayer that "they" (I am assuming women) never teach you anything, I think that is a given, as your mind is closed. Christian is as Christian does, and you don't.
~"Ooh, I take it back"
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:26pm.
"I was just faking being a woman-hater like all you conservatives; I was talking just like you; I blended right in. Right?" *nervous giggle*
I guess God was really upset
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:00pm.
I guess God was really upset when He appointed women judges over His people? Dang.
~Deborah
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:04pm.
Oops, God musta messed up. Someone should tell Him.
After all those years down on
Submitted by Barack Must Go on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:10pm.
After all those years down on her knees under the table over at the ' Morning Joke ', I find it a little hard to believe O'Donnell really needs to ask someone else what " submissive " means........woof.
~Check it out, Vet
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:21pm.
One of your pet projects is back.
Hhmm
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:26pm.
Gives me an idea?
~Me too
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:32pm.
But I used all my rope on the other thread.
Yes Brunette*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:16pm.
And it appears that repeating kindergarten was of no help to it at all.
~Can I get another 'Like'?
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:27pm.
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Okay, who's turn was it to watch the NB backdoor?
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:25pm.
Cause something slimy has slithered in undetected.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
I said bring me a beer!
Submitted by MidAmerica on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:35pm.
Michelle answered just fine.
Subservient is what the dems forced Hillary to be. Imagine.... Hillary was promoted as the next president, was given all kinds of accolades but when the time came the nomination was pulled away from her and given to a man. Not only that but she was talked into working for the 'out of nowhere' man as if he outranked her in experience and political skill. So after the humiliation of Bill she is left cleaning up for a man who in reality is her inferior.
No No Norah!
Submitted by bigdaddy on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:11pm.
Not the submissive definition that you use in journalism, involving the knee pads and getting promoted.
Good Ol' Norah
Submitted by jaywl on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:19pm.
Please don't think that Norah had to ask the question over and over because she was too stupid to understand the answers. No, the fault lies entirely with Rep. Bachmann. If she had given the right answer (or is that the left answer, the correct left right answer or right left answer or, well never mind that) , if she had given the answer Norah wanted in the first place, Sweet (Giggles) Norah would not have had to ask the same damn question more than once, But No!, Bachmann would not cooperate!
Another media set-up
Submitted by pbthinker on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:16pm.
Boy did CBS set this one up. Giving Schieffer the day off so they could put a woman in to attack, pretty slick. Norah O'Donnell is really a hack versus a reporter. I haven't seen her do much in the way of legitimate news, since Obama was elected, it's all been Democrat hackery.
motive
Submitted by Kuso Jiji on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 4:44am.
what motivates the media with this line of questioning? the questions are designed to turn off women voters. they would never ask hillary how she could stay married to a cheating husband, a sexual harrasser and a rapist but they go after michele bachmann and her thirty year marraige. the media is so in the tank for obama and the democrats, its gots our nation in a death spiral.