CNN Perpetuates Liberal Talking Point on 'Cost' of Extending Tax Rates
On Thursday's Newsroom, CNN's Brooke Baldwin continued her network's liberal spin on the proposed compromise between President Obama and congressional Republicans to extend the current Bush-era tax rates, treating it as government spending. Baldwin hyped the apparent "two-year cost of this new cut" and how letting taxpayers keep their money would supposedly add to the deficit.
The anchor raised the "cost" issue during an interview of Democratic Congressman Jay Inslee six minutes into the 3 pm Eastern hour:
BALDWIN: Congressman, we're scratching our heads a bit over these numbers, and I'm hoping you can help me out here, because they're kind of all over the place. The latest we are getting is this two-year cost of this new tax cut, it's somewhere in the ballpark between $800 billion and $900 billion- that is just specifically the tax cut- and then, the top 2 percent would take up about 20 percent of that $800 billion to $900 billion pie. So, Congressman, how close is that to what you're hearing? How close is that to reality?
Seventeen minutes later, Baldwin brought on correspondent Jessica Yellin to discuss the tax compromise. After playing a sound bite of Senator-Elect Rand Paul expressing his concerns about keeping the current tax rates without cutting spending, the CNN anchor used the liberal talking point that merely keeping the current tax rates would contribute to the deficit:
BALDWIN: I want to bring in a voice of someone who has not quite started his job on Capitol Hill just yet, but he's already talking about it: Senator-elect Rand Paul. He says he doesn't like this- listen.
SENATOR-ELECT RAND PAUL: Well, I think the most important thing government can do right now for the economy is to extend the Bush tax cuts. I would be for extending them permanently, so that's my first problem with this. The other thing is, is one of my biggest concerns is the deficit. So, I think, if you're going to extend and add new tax cuts, you should couple them with cuts in spending. Instead, we're coupling them with increases in spending, and I think that's the wrong thing to do.
BALDWIN: Jess, you touched on this the other day, the whole concept of- you know, perhaps, a credibility problem-
YELLIN: Right.
BALDWIN: You have the Republicans who say- you know, fiscal responsibility, but then, we're adding, like, more than a trillion dollars to the deficit here. To some, it doesn't make sense.
YELLIN: Right, and this is really in the eye of the beholder, Brooke, because there are people like incoming Senator Paul and Senator Jim DeMint who say- look, this adds to the debt and we can't stomach that without some changes. But some other Republicans who are on board with the plan will say: it's true- none of this was included in our current deficit projections, so now the deficit will be bigger, but the government shouldn't have planned on having all that extra money, because these are taxes you're taking from the American people anyway. We shouldn't have counted on taking those taxes. It's the American people's money. It's not the government's money. Do you follow that logic?
BALDWIN: Kind of.
YELLIN: It's a little-
BALDWIN: So it's the American people's money, so they're saying, we didn't have it to begin with.
YELLIN: Right- in other words, don't ever count on getting any tax revenue from the American people-
BALDWIN: Yeah.
YELLIN: You have to start fresh every year. The truth is, it does increase our deficit projections, and if you want to bring down the deficit, you have got to find a way to cut spending, and this isn't doing it.
BALDWIN: Oh, wow, that is an interesting perspective, indeed. (Yellin laughs) Jessica Yellin- it's one perspective of many that we're hearing from these days- Jess, thank you.
On Tuesday's Newsroom, Baldwin and Yellin raised the apparent "contradiction" of promising to cut spending while agreeing to this tax rate compromise that, in her words, would "increase spending dramatically," thus treating taxpayers' income as if it belonged to the federal government.
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There is no "cost" associated with extending current tax rates
Submitted by Dave. on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 9:23pm.
Nor is there any such thing as "government money,"as the only money government has is what it has taken from us by force.
The government never had this money in the first place, so how can not giving them anymore (as in allowing them to confiscate more of our income at the point of a gun) cost the government anything?
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Not extending the rates will
Submitted by GregE on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 9:44pm.
Not extending the rates will cost me a *&$*load.
CUT THE D@MN SPENDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Baldwin: "The latest we are getting is this two-year cost of this new tax cut."
Would someone please point out to me in the proposed compromise, what tax CUT is on the table? Is there a CUT proposed for the middle class, or a CUT proposed for the upper class, or a CUT proposed for both, or a CUT proposed for no one at all?
The answer is D.
I wish it was $2 trillion,
Submitted by Edhenry on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 10:13pm.
I wish it was $2 trillion, because the federal and state goverments would have to lay off even more worthless employees.
This is moron logic!
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 11:11pm.
Maintaining a rate is by no means a cost to the government. This money has not been given to the government for ten years.
The idea that not giving the government your money is a cost is a defective way to spin the transaction.
It would be better if these thieves would just say, the problem with letting the top earners continue with the current tax bill is that there are a lot of sloths that want more of your money so one way or another they want it and will keep coming after it.
Oh, one more point. When the GOP said they want the tax rate to remain for ALL how please tell me, does that statement translate to exclude the middle class? Please teach me the parse required to grok/spin this.
This is triangulation at its
Submitted by jdhawk on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 11:18pm.
This is triangulation at its best on the part of the socialists. They lambast the Republicans concerning people continuing to be taxed at the outrageous levels they have been the last ten years despite the reductions in 2001 and 2003 on the part of President Bush.
Meanwhile, unmentioned by the above propagandists and barely mentioned in the lame stream media is the House passage of a $1.2 TRILLION dollard spending bill. That isn't the spending bill for the entire fiscal year. In fact, no where in any of the articles that have read about it is how long the government can run with this latest infusion.
Some of the other items that are conveniently left out of any of the articles on this subject is how much tax receipts will cover the expenditures, what the shortfall is estimated to be, and what will be done to make up the difference.
My bet is that less than half of the $1.2 TRILLION dollars in new spending will be covered by tax receipts from you and me.
Am I writing this to advocate higher taxes? HELL NO!. What I am demanding is that this government live within its means. CUT SPENDING!
Let's see if the new crop of conservatives to take their seats in the House and the Senate will live up to our expectations. Fat chance . . .
Mary, Mary, quite confused.
Submitted by jaywl on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 11:37pm.
Greta was just trying to make Sen. Landrieu understand ownership of wealth. She failed the test by saying two or three times that the continuation of the Bush tax cuts would mean the government would have to borrow $50 billion from "the poor, the destitute, the unemployed" to give to millionaires. I wish I knew which poor destitue unemployed people had the cash to give to the Guvmint. They would be my friend! For a Democrat Mary is better that most (like Whinney Weiner and his brother from NY Sen Schmuzer, both of whom can't avoid a camera and look so much alike), however sometimes I think she just can't help herself. Don't these people know how stupid that sounds? Not only do poor people have little money to give, but the bottom half don't pay anything to the Federal Guvmint and haven't in a long time.
Now that finally understanding
Submitted by dirtydan64 on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 12:03am.
it's our Money first then Gov't steals it form us !!! There's not a sole here that recieves there weekly, monthly, or Bi-monthly pay check where it says US Gov't or anything remotely close to that unless of course your a Federal Employee !!! Its the spending Stupid !!!
To Tell the Truth
Submitted by Red Jeep on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 8:41am.
The only cost here is what government spends.
If government spends over its income (taxes collected) it results in a deficit.
Got it, MSM?
OK Libs, time for a econ 101
Submitted by inquiringmind on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 9:54am.
OK Libs, time for a econ 101 lesson
I'm a business owner and I make widgets. I want more business so I can either make a better widget and charge more or keep my product the same and lower my price.
I know if I raise my price I will quickly lose business to a competitor so I don't want to do that. Has it cost me any money if I keep my prices the same? No of course not.
Actually if I lower my prices I may have a slight dip in income but when the word gets out that my prices are lower than my competitors my business will pick up and I will make more money in the long run.
Lesson here, if you don't raise taxes it hasn't cost you anything.
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