Jon Stewart on CNN: Fox News Is 'Wrong,' a 'Political Organization'
On Wednesday's Larry King Live on CNN, liberal comedian Jon Stewart bashed Fox News, labeling their "fair and balanced" slogan a "complete lie." Stewart also stated that he thought the network was "wrong" and that "they've built... [a] really effective political organization," not a news organization. The comedian also lamented how Democrats have "faced a relentless campaign of hyperbole that they are tyrannical socialists" [audio available here].
Stewart appeared for the entire hour on King's program. Forty minutes in, the CNN host asked his guest, "What do you make of Fox?" The comedian, who earlier promoted his upcoming supposedly moderate "Rally to Restore Sanity," initially gave a mostly complimentary reply, though included his "wrong" label of the network, but continued with some criticism on CNN:
STEWART: I think brilliantly authoritative. They know what they're doing. People would take well to heed how tenacious they are- how bold they are. They express editorial authority. I think they're wrong. But I appreciate that they're trying and- you know, I don't think it's a right and left thing. I don't think that's what's going to be important. I think CNN has an opportunity to be a real arbiter. But being a real arbiter means taking a stand, not just having people on you're on- you know, you're on the left, you're on the right. That's like having people on in the cola wars. You're from Pepsi. You're from Coke. What do you think? I think we taste great. I think we taste great. That's all the time we have (King laughs)- both terrific points of view, you know? It's about being authoritative, about earning credibility. And CNN, more than anybody, has the infrastructure to be able to accomplish that, and instead, they make a holographic Jessica Yellin and they just make her come up as a holograph on election night. Do you remember that?
Stewart, in calling for CNN to be a "real arbiter" by "taking a stand," seems to be hinting that the network should be more overtly liberal, in the model of their competitor MSNBC. That might not, however, lead them to "being authoritative" or "earning credibility."
King followed-up by continuing his line of questioning on Fox News, though getting his competitor's "fair and balanced" slogan slightly wrong in the process. This is where Stewart further unleashed on the network [video below the jump]:
KING: But Fox, you think they're fair and honest in reporting?
STEWART: What!? No! God no.
KING: But that's their motto.
STEWART: What? That's their motto?
KING: Yes.
STEWART: Well, that's a complete lie.
KING: Okay.
STEWART: No, I think they're tenacious. I think they are confident, and they are showing the model of how to build an organization that believes in something. I think what they believe- I think it is wrong-headed for a news organization. I think they've built an incredible political organization- really effective political organization.
KING: So it's a political organization?
STEWART: Yes, that's right.
Earlier, just before the bottom of the 9 pm Eastern hour, King asked Stewart about Sharron Angle. The liberal bashed the Nevada Republican, but also broadened his comedic bashing to both Republicans and Democrats, though he clearly sympathized more with the Democrats:
STEWART: I think Sharron Angle is an example of just how desperate people must be to remove Democrats from office, that they would listen to her positions and the things that she says and go- (snaps fingers) that's for me. (King laughs) I think that's got more to do with them going- Harry Reid, seriously dude?
KING: Where did Harry- he's the top Democrat in the Senate.
STEWART: Yes (laughs), he is.
KING: He got a health bill passed.
STEWART: Yeah, but I think the issue is not that- they seem to feel that legislative accomplishment in and of itself is reason for re-election. I think a lot of people feel like they are layering hit or miss reforms on top of an infrastructure that is somewhat corroded. I think people felt like this was an opportunity to root out years of rust and degradation in a system, not just layer it with all kinds of other-
KING: They were supposed to do it in two years?
STEWART: They were not supposed to do it in two years. But I think, within two years, they could have laid out an illuminating path that showed that they were on a road to understanding what the issues were that people were concerned about. Also, to be fair, they have faced a relentless campaign of hyperbole that they are tyrannical socialists bent on the homosexualization of the gayness of turning this country into gay-Germany.
KING: While being Muslim.
STEWART: While being Muslim. (King laughs) So, again- but with that stated, if they had given people I think a much clearer impression of what was important to them and what they thought the real issues were, rather than just this kind of- there's an incoherence to what they say. I always say- you know, with Republicans, you never- they never have to prove that they love this country. Democrats always seem to have to prove to America that they love America. Republicans love America- they just seem to hate about 50 percent of the people who live in it. (King laughs) Democrats- you know, for their thing, it's always they love this country- they just somehow wish it were a different country. (King laughs) You know, Democrats are always like- you know, America's the greatest country in the world. Have you seen Finland's health care system? (King laughs) You get back rubs at work. You're surrounded by sandwiches.
Immediately before King asked Stewart for his views on Fox News, he asked about former CNN anchor Rick Sanchez's firing, which partially involved Sanchez labeling the comedian a "bigot." Stewart actually defended his accuser, even while continuing to make fun of the former anchor:
KING: They're [people on Twitter] asking this: what you thought about CNN, us, firing Rick Sanchez after he called you a bigot?...
STEWART: Should they have fired him for that? No.
KING: You think they made a mistake?
STEWART: Oh! With the crap you guys have put on over the last ten years? (King laughs) What, are you kidding me? Fire somebody if you don't think they're doing a good job as a news person. This whole idea that people- you know, they fired a woman for Tweeting something on her thing on her blog. They fired Sanchez for saying what he said. I think it's absolute insanity. I think that this idea that people have to be held to account for everything that comes out of their mouths, as far as their livelihoods is concerned- does he do a good job? Were you pleased with his job, or was it an excuse to- you know, to get rid of him, in a manner?
KING: What did you think of the job he was doing?
STEWART: He's a ham. I mean, I wasn't crazy about the show. Do you think I want to see a newsman get tased and then get into a car and drive it into a river? It would be like, this is how you get out. What? What are you doing? But-
KING: Were you not hurt by him calling you that? Personally hurt?
STEWART: No, I was not personally hurt by him calling me a bigot. I make jokes about people for a living. If that's the least- you should hear what people call me when I'm walking home. (King laughs) You have no idea the vitriol that comes my way on a daily basis. Bigot- I almost wanted to hug him and go, really, you think? (King laughs) That nice?
KING: Why, frankly- a show- why do you pick on-
STEWART: You know- and again- you know, the idea that they would have fired him for calling me a bigot. I wish I- you know, I think they- if that's the reason, hire him back tomorrow, because I- you know, my feeling is, when he said- you know, there was a- the thought that he had said that Jews control the media and that maybe that would have ruffled some feathers, that they felt like that was-
KING: Maybe that was the reason.
STEWART: Okay, but even that- I'm sorry, that is a nasty thing to say. I don't think he actually means that. But I don't think that's a fireable offense. Unless it's- you know, yeah, if you criticize your bosses sometimes. But even that-
Speaking of Sanchez, Stewart should take comfort in how the two of them agree on Fox News.
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Hmmm..
Submitted by stage9 on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 1:39pm.
Study: Fox Leads for Trust (pdf)
http://www.pdfdownload.org/pdf2html/pdf2html.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.publicpolicypolling.com%2Fpdf%2FPPP_Release_National_126.pdf&images=yes
Fox News: Fair And Balanced?
http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/14/fox-news-barack-obama-media-opinions-contributors-s-robert-lichter.html
How Different Media Have Covered the General Election
http://www.journalism.org/node/13436
"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner." — Malcolm Muggeridge
Can't stand him.
Submitted by Texndoc on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 1:45pm.
I couldn't care less what flavor cheese he prefers let alone his political views. OReilly seems to think he's hot stuff as he's always trying to hitch his wagon to Stewarts.O'Reilly Also Wants Walter Approbation
Submitted by libBuster on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:39pm.
As Dennis Miller pointed out to O'Reilly last night, Bill also seems determiend to gain the approbation of left wing news doyen Barbara Walters.
Far from being hard hitting, O'Reilly tempers his views to gain approval.
In the early days, CNN had a respected reputation
Submitted by Galvanic on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 2:06pm.
The CNN programming was essentially Headline News -- 30 minute news broadcasts updated with each new show, running 24 /7, each one the same format as the episode before and after it. One could argue that editorial decisions regarding what aired and what didn't precluded true objectivity, but the 30 minute cycle at least limited the amount of superfluous commentary.
But then CNN introduced commentary shows, and Headline News was no longer the flagship product. Some shows like Crossfire were welcomed, but even it got tainted when the original format was abandoned for blatant advocacy crap when Carville and Begala were brought on as co-hosts.
Today, Headline News doesn't even exist except as a trigraph (HLN). CNN has two channels, neither of which has the original format, but both of which are crammed with entertainment programming filled with commentary, discussions about law cases, Larry King, and Joy Behar.
To attain any modicum of objectivity, CNN would have to abandon all of its current programming and start again at the beginning.
Those were the days of
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:04pm.
Those were the days of Charles Beirbower (?), a true journalist who kept his political views private, as they should be.
All you need to know about Larry King as an interviewer:
Submitted by daddysyk on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 1:58pm.
STEWART: What? That's their motto?KING: Yes.
STEWART: Well, that's a complete lie.
KING: Okay.
Hard-hitting, fair reporting. The most trusted name in news.
After Obama, Stewart is the
Submitted by kg on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:17pm.
After Obama, Stewart is the second smartest Democrat in the U.S.
"DumbAssity of Dope"
A little balance, fairly - Jon Stewart
Submitted by Gary Hall on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 2:00pm.
From a 2005 UCLA media study:
[..]
The fourth most centrist outlet was "Special Report With Brit Hume" on Fox News, which often is cited by liberals as an egregious example of a right-wing outlet. While this news program proved to be right of center, the study found ABC's "World News Tonight" and NBC's "Nightly News" to be left of center. All three outlets were approximately equidistant from the center, the report found.
"If viewers spent an equal amount of time watching Fox's 'Special Report' as ABC's 'World News' and NBC's 'Nightly News,' then they would receive a nearly perfectly balanced version of the news," said Milyo, an associate professor of economics and public affairs at the University of Missouri at Columbia.
Five news outlets — "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer," ABC's "Good Morning America," CNN's "NewsNight With Aaron Brown," Fox News' "Special Report With Brit Hume" and the Drudge Report — were in a statistical dead heat in the race for the most centrist news outlet. Of the print media, USA Today was the most centrist.
And still, Jon Stewart, remember, this only slightly right of center Fox News outlet, is simply trying to balance out, the CBS's, NBC's, ABC's, CNN's, NPR's, MSNBC's, NYTimes, LATimes, NewsWeek's, Time Mag., Hollywood's and the late nigth left wing comedy shows. It's not really a fair fight, is it?
(;~/ gary
As I have said before, the
Submitted by mattm on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 2:19pm.
As I have said before, the "right" would have to dominate the media, the schools and all other avenues of information flow for the next 50 years in order to finally achieve 'balance."
Besides, "balance" is not that high of a goal to have. I'd rather have truth.
Any study which has The
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 3:01pm.
Any study which has The Drudge Report tied for the most centrist news outlet is suspect for that reason alone.
At one time, I had a link to a critique which debunked a number of conclusions published in the UCLA media report. Hopefully, I can relocate it because it revealed some significant flaws in the data collection.
In any event, you neglect to mention several conservative sources which tend to level the media playing field somewhat [although, as I have frequently acknowledged, there is indeed an overall leftward tilt].
Talk radio--which is a veritable conservative behemoth
Magazines such as the National Review, The Economist, The Weekly Standard, The American Spectator, Commentary, Human Events, and a number of business related periodicals with a conservative slant
Newspapers such as WSJ, The New York Post, The Washington Times, The Washington Examiner, The Pittsburgh Gazette, The San Diego Times Union
The 700 Club TV newscasts are decidedly conservative in tone and content
And the liberal programs and publications you mention generally air conservative viewpoints too
So, it's not exactly Fox News against the World.
Jer
Jer.. interestingly, the UCLA study
Submitted by Gary Hall on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 3:36pm.
Interestingly, Jer, the UClA study, in reference to:
..business related periodicals with a conservative slant newspapers such as WSJ..
.. noted:
Of the 20 major media outlets studied, 18 scored left of center, with CBS' "Evening News," The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times ranking second, third and fourth most liberal behind the news pages of The Wall Street Journal. [..]
While the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal is conservative, the newspaper's news pages are liberal, even more liberal than The New York Times.
The study was looking at the news presentation, not ediorial and opinion.
I might also note, in regards to the fact that there are indeeed conservative periodicals out there, Weekly Standard, Wash Ex, Wa Post, National Review, Commentary Mag., etc., consider how often the national mainstream media (which is massive) quotes or references news and views from these sources - quotes or references them, as something that they agree with?
They are all quick to quote the NY Times, or the nuts at the NYTimes, or Newsweek, or Bill Maher, as the background for that which they also wish to push into the national media's presentation. They invite on, or interview, or quote (often out of context), those from the conservative side, almost entirely for the purpose of attacking them, or setting them up as out of touch, or as racist, or as however they want to present it.
(;~> Gary
Sorry Jer, but you're
Submitted by Smartypants on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 3:38pm.
Sorry Jer, but you're comparing apples and oranges there. You reference talk radio, which pales in comparison to the impact of the mass media (i.e. ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, NY Times, Washington Post, LA Times, Hollywood, the music industry, shows such as "The View," which are supposed to be neutral but are anything but, Colbert, Stewart, etc.). The landscape is tipped more than slightly to the left; it is overwhelmingly left. The amount of left wing messages received by the average person is tremendous. Hint: The average Joe is not listening to talk radio in the middle of the afternoon. For the most part, the right wing talk show guys are talking to those who already agree with them.
The bottom line is the mainstream media has a huge impact on those who are, generally, disengaged from politics; these are the people who don't pay attention other than once every two or four years, when they tune in for a while until after election day. The messages received by these folks are generally that anything Republican is bad and Democrat is good, period. The media treats the likes of Sarah Palin, a sitting governor, like she is up for parole and glosses over the background of Barack Obama, a highly questionable background at that, as if it is of no concern. What impact do you think this has on that average Joe who does not pay attention to most of what is going on? Sarah Palin becomes an outcast and B.O. is elected president. In fact, neither of these individuals is likely qualified for the presidency, but that only mattered to one of them. That's the impact of the leftward media.
A small minority of people
Submitted by redfish on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 3:49pm.
A small minority of people listen to talk radio, and an even smaller number of people watch the 700 club. Conservative leaning print outlets like WSJ, Washington Times, etc., tend to be amenable to moderate conservative views or fiscal conservativism, but not social / cultural conservativism.
Plus, liberal views are not only expressed in journalistic sources, but also in academia and in entertainment media.
Imagine, for instance, what a young person will see and hear (and I'm relatively young, so I have experience). They'll hear the same thing from entertainment, their teachers, and from common journalistic sources. They see Fox News and talk radio, with a lot of angry people, and think its just about angry people who are ignorant and who are angry because they're ignorant, and that Fox News is a propaganda network.
Talk radio has become popular among some segment of the population simply because it was representing a point of view that those people felt was excluded from the media. They started as outsiders, and as many ways still are, in that they're still being marginalized (referred to as extremists and nutjobs).
Its your POV whether conservatives deserve to feel this way or whether they deserve to win popular opinion, but its still strange to be obsessed with Fox News and conservative outlets. Thats why I can't take Jon Stewart seriously.
That's an excellent post, redfish.
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:47pm.
That's an excellent post, redfish. I hope I can find it and respond later.
Jer
That's funny, I would have
Submitted by Semus on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 2:01pm.
That's funny, I would have called his show left wing political and he a left wing political operative with decent writters. These guys have had it one way for so long they wouldn't recognized a fair and balanced news progam if it cracked them on the head.To them if the news shows doesn't somehow directly or indirectly say the USA is the great Satan at least once it's a right wing abberation.
Cannot blame him for what he
Submitted by Captain Repus on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 2:04pm.
Cannot blame him for what he believes. Can blame him for being a political hack who caters to mindless lemming young people and hate filled East coast cement dwellers.This nonsense is all so
Submitted by ML Stovall on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 2:09pm.
This nonsense is all so predictable.
Monday: Larry King defrosts. John Stewart comes on his show and they spend an hour patting one another on the back and bashing FOX News and conservatives in general.
Tuesday: Larry King defrosts. Bill Maher comes on his show and they spend an hour patting one another on the back and bashing FOX News and conservatives in general. Maher fills in any dead air by calling white Americans stupid and racist bigots.
Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Over and over again. Please go away Skeletor and stay gone. Don't you have a sister-in-law that needs impregnating or something?
What An Imbecile!
Submitted by DaMama on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 2:09pm.
I bet Stewart won't call MSNBC or CNBC a liberal news channel. It's hard to believe that people can be this stupid about the left wing controlled media. They get their panties in a bunch over Fox News because they can't control it. Fox doesn't kowtow to the liberal left, and it makes lefties like Jon Steward crazy.
The hatred liberal idiots like Stewart have for Fox News is rivaled only by their obssessive hatred for Sarah Palin. Fox and Palin are the whipping boys (or girls) for liberals because they can't handle the truth, and will try to stop anything that doesn't espouse the liberal left.
He has mentioned that MSNBC
Submitted by Francisco on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 3:20pm.
He has mentioned that MSNBC has a left wing bias (or more specifically a pro-Obama stance)Let's see... FoxNews
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 2:18pm.
Let's see...
FoxNews actively promotes Tea Party events
FoxNews employs 3 2012 presidential race frontrunners
Sounds politically driven to me.
Yeah, but...
Submitted by MightyMouth on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 2:24pm.
Unlike MSNBC, they are not "wrong".
Those have announced they are
Submitted by Free Stinker on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 2:32pm.
Those have announced they are running, or are you just discussing assumptions ?/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 2:39pm.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/121807-gallup-poll-romn...
No one has announced a run, but it doesn't change the fact that any or all 3 have a free news outlet to get their message out, which is more than can be said about the other networks.
All Commentators are "getting
Submitted by Free Stinker on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 3:05pm.
All Commentators are "getting their message out". Duh. You're really upset about this upcoming election, aren't you?/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
I already stated that I
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 3:08pm.
I already stated that I couldn't care less about the upcoming election.
But now that you bring it up, would you care to explain your presumptions?
My presumption is based on
Submitted by Free Stinker on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 3:25pm.
My presumption is based on you being overly upset about 3 commentators on Foxnews. If these 3 (who do you mean?) had actually announced they were running, I would agree with your point. I don't know of any Foxnews commentator that has announced they are running for President in 2012, so I don't see why you seem to be so upset . . ./// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Why would that make me upset?
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 3:44pm.
Why would that make me upset? It seems all of you are in an uproar defending FoxNews, whereas I'm merely pointing out that FoxNews is indeed a political organization who openly promotes Tea Party events and gives an open forum to potential presidential candidates.
None of this has a thing to do with the upcoming election, so I ask again: Why would I be upset with the 2010 election outcome?
I think Fox News should
Submitted by redfish on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:19pm.
I think Fox News should distance themselves from this practice, because it ruins their credibility as a news source. They should certainly recognize it as a problem in journalistic ethics.
I don't think, though, they ended up being a political organization by design. I'm sure they'd welcome someone from the Democratic side who wanted to work for them on an official basis. For instance, I don't doubt that Fox would hire Joe Trippi to be a counterpoint to Carl Rove, but if Trippi ever did that, you'd have a lot of anger at him from the left. I don't know what potential Democratic candidates I'd include, but at some point Wesley Clark was appearing a lot on the channel. I could imagine Fox hiring him.
So, besides recognizing this as bad practice by Fox -- which it is -- I think we should turn the question back to whether Jon Stewart is right. I think Stewart should be encouraging liberals and progressives to appear on Fox, engage with them, and be willing to take paid jobs there, instead of treating Fox as a pariah.
I'm sure there are a plethora
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:22pm.
I'm sure there are a plethora of unemployed Democrat talkers who would love a show on FoxNews, let alone a regular appearance on the network. Unfortunately it seems DINO Juan Williams is the only one with a brain they're willing to employ.
I do think Stewart is correct, and as I mentioned above, it's not only because they've given Palin, Huckabee, and Romney an open forum to campaign, but because FoxNews has a history of promoting Tea Party evens. While one can make the argument that Beck is an opinion show, mediamatters.com has documented it quite nicely.
http://mediamatters.org/reports/200904080025
And Kirsten Powers, Susan
Submitted by redfish on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:30pm.
And Kirsten Powers, Susan Estrich, and others. Joe Trippi has been appearing a lot on Fox lately, though I doubt he'd take a job there. I enjoyed it when Neal Gabler was on Fox News Watch.
But there's a problem even getting Democrats to appear on Fox nowadays without the liberal base getting angry at them and accusing them of being traitors. "How can you appear on Fox? Its a propaganda network, don't dignify it", etc.
I know. Unfortunately
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:33pm.
I know. Unfortunately conservatives play the same game with the liberal leaning news stations. So the game continues...
And I will answer again. You
Submitted by Free Stinker on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:42pm.
And I will answer again. You are upset about the 3 unnamed (unless I missed that post) commentators. Upset far beyond reason. The only reason I can imagine is that your anger about possible democrat losses next month is overflowing into other issues. Clear enough now?/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
No. You're making
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:59pm.
No. You're making presumptions based out of your own fantasies. So I'll ask it differently this time: What about the upcoming election will be so devastating to me, and which "angry" comments have I made that leads you to your thinkin'?
I'm a registered independent for a reason.
Sarah Palin
Mike Huckabee
Mitt Romney
The top 3 potential 2012 candidates.
And they've announced they
Submitted by Free Stinker on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 5:34pm.
And they've announced they are running? Pesky things, those details./// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
That's your only response?
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 5:41pm.
That's your only response? When did I say they were running? It's your republicans who have placed Palin, Huckabee, and Romney in the lead for 2012. FoxNews is just accommodating them by giving them an open forum on which to campaign - and the best part is, none of them have to announce an official run.
I forget, which Democrats have shows on FoxNews again?
By the way, still waiting for your answer as to why I'm so upset about the upcoming election.
Ted~
Submitted by GG_NB on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 5:39pm.
I'll probably never find this post again, so feel free to ignore me.
But I don't really think any of those three will be the pick.
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
Hello, my friend! I posted
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 5:44pm.
Hello, my friend!
I posted this link above:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/121807-gallup-poll-romn...
Not that it proves anything, but you can imagine the uproar if Obama, Clinton, and Edwards were all on the MSNBC payroll leading up to their official announcements.
What???
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Fri, 10/22/2010 - 1:41am.
Obama and Clinton currently have jobs that they should be paying attention to.
Edwards is just a douche, who would want him?
Palin, Huckabbe, and Romney are not currently engaged in terms of service, and have not announced any intent to run for anything, so your comparison is bogus.
DK
Submitted by well99 on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 11:31pm.
I am sure you can post some facts proving the allegation.Also since they brought up the Democratic Convention all the time before it happened plus covered it they were promoting the Dems.As far as presidential canidates thanks for the scoop.I didnt know anyone had announced it yet.Wait this couldnt be because I think it so it must be so moments?Say it aint so DK.
Obama gets plenty of face time
Submitted by nkviking75 on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 10:00pm.
How many long form sit-down interviews has Obama done with all of the broadcast networks and all of the cable newsers, as well as appearances on such shows as The Tonight Show, the Daily Show, and even Mythbusters? And the cable channels routinely carry public appearances by Obama that border on campaign rallies. He's on the tube so much that there has been talk that he's overexposed.
When Palin, Huckabee, and Gingrich appear on Fox as guests, they are frequently asked about their presidential aspirations, as are other guests who are considered possible candidates. So it's not as if Fox is hiding their politics. (Huckabee hosts a show, but even then the subject comes up from time to time.)
If Fox were violating some sort of election law, this highly partisan administration would jump down their throats. That they don't should tell you something.
“Always love your country — but never trust your government!" -- Bob Novak (1931-2009)
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Funny, ADK, I haven't heard
Submitted by ML Stovall on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 2:41pm.
Funny, ADK, I haven't heard anyone declare themself a candidate for the 2012 election yet. Did I miss something?
Oh my, Another DK,
Submitted by daddysyk on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 2:35pm.
You really want to go there? Stewart was on CNN actively promoting his rally. Paul Begala, James Carville, straight from the White house to CNN. CNN gave Jessie Jackdon a show called "Both Sides." Name the CNN equivalent to all of the liberals who appear on Fox. And Kathleen Parker does not count.
And which of them are seeking
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 2:51pm.
And which of them are seeking a presidential candidacy?
And who on Fox is seeking a
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:06pm.
And who on Fox is seeking a presidential candidacy?
daddysyk...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 3:04pm.
At one time CNN provided conservatives a far greater forum than Fox currently gives liberals. But once Fox thoroughly captured the conservative demographics, CNN shifted leftward, as did MSNBC.
Jer
Jer,
Submitted by daddysyk on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 3:36pm.
outside of Crossfire, name a show hosted by a prominent conservative on CNN at any time. And i know Beck was on Headline News briefly.
Joe Scarborough
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 3:45pm.
Joe Scarborough
What?!
Submitted by ML Stovall on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:12pm.
Joe Scarborough is a conservative? Really? Since when? Joe Scar-Blow is the biggest flaming RINO ever to sit in front of a camera. Nice try though.
Just because someone is less
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:23pm.
Just because someone is less conservative than you doesn't make him liberal.
With pleasure, dadysyk...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 3:56pm.
Evans and Novak: Rollie Evans was a center/right Democrat and Bob "The Prince Of Darkness" Novak was about as right-wing as they come
Also Novak was the original host of Capitol Gang and remained on the program for years which also featured conservatives such as Kate O'Bierne, Pat Buchanan, Mona Charen and others
Furthermore there were regular conservative contributors such as Jonah Goldberg, Delroy Murdoch, Larry Elder, Tucker Carlson, Barbara Olson
And, of course, Crossfire was a daily staple for years which provided a completely level ideological forum in which to debate current political issues.
Jer
Yes, the bigger problem was
Submitted by redfish on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 6:18pm.
Yes, the bigger problem was that CNN's news reporting had bias, and news anchors like Judy Woodruff were left-leaning.
But I think when Fox News started years ago, in the 90s, it was also far more balanced, true to its motto, but has become worse over the years. Special Report, Fox News Sunday, etc. keeps the same tone.
Another problem I had with CNN and shows like Crossfire, is a problem I continue to have with Fox, CNN, Msnbc, today -- everything is formatted as a two sided debate, excluding possible third party perspectives. Balance is fine, but objectivity is better.
Do you consider Lou Dobbs
Submitted by redfish on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 7:35pm.
Do you consider Lou Dobbs conservative?
Are you kidding, Jer? At one
Submitted by ML Stovall on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:05pm.
Are you kidding, Jer? At one time, CNN was the only 'news network' - cable or otherwise - and at the time was the only even slightly objective option. Predictably they, too, moved further to the left right along with all the other television 'news' programming. FOX News exists because of the lack of a centrist and/or center-right viewpoint in news and opinion progamming.
Not kidding, ML...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:23pm.
"Predictably they, too, moved further to the left right along with all the other television 'news' programming" Didn't I say that? I believe I did. But if it helps, I'll reaffirm it. BTW, do you recall the Sunday afternoon line-up on PBS for many years [but mostly prior to Fox]? It was a virtual murderers row of conservative opinion.Fox has its lib guests and contributors, but, make no mistake, it is solidly conservative--[which is fine...just can the "fair and balanced" nonsense] Jer ML...Sorry for the formatting mess. For some reason, when I copy and paste from another post this frequently happens.
Why 'can' the "Fair and
Submitted by ML Stovall on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:42pm.
Why 'can' the "Fair and Balanced" motto? FOX does what it claims; there are guests from both sides of the aisle for just about every issue discussed on every show. Heck, liberals fill in as guest hosts for O' Reilly, Greta, etc. Beckel; Juan; Colmes; Mara Liasson; Marc Lamont Hill, et al, are all regular guests whose opinions are heard right alongside the conservative viewpoint. Allowing for the differences between the news and the opinion shows, I'm not sure what you find unfair or unbalanced about 90% of the programming on FOX.
Dang you ML!
Submitted by Rukus on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 5:26pm.
Bringin' facts and sh!!te into the discussion! Racist! ; )
Newly found dinosaur: Track-a-saurus-rex. (Hint)
Then they must be facts which
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 5:54pm.
Then they must be facts which have been developed just over the past year or so, because when I was a regular Fox viewer during the preceding eight or nine years, the "fair and balanced" slogan was absurd and the liberal-conservative format was clearly rigged.
Jer
'scuse me friend!
Submitted by Rukus on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 6:19pm.
I've been watchin' FoxNews for years and they seem to have both libs and cons on all the time. Is CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC ad adnausium offered the same balance lately?
I ask where is Fox "rigged"?
When FoxNews regularly has liberal host's fill in, will, don't see that with the other net's. Don't even give me RINO's pretending to represent conservative views on other show's!
ScareBurro and Parker are NOT conservative! Don't even try that my friend!
Hanity/Colmes was on there for the longest before Colmes got tired of being nailed. Give me a break!
You're still my friend, but Fox News is WAY more balanced than anything the alphebet network can toss up.
JMHO. Luv ya buddy! : )
Where the HELL is our TRACK dammit!!!
Listen up, Mr. Crimson Tide...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 6:29pm.
Better be nice or I'm gonna root for Auburn. ;-)
Okay...FOX is simply awesome!
How's that?
Jer
Fine!
Submitted by Rukus on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 6:39pm.
In my wife's most pissed off tone!
Root for the tiggers and I won't talk to you!
We're takin' on the punkin' puke people on Sat. Who you rootin' for??? Be honest buddy...
Jer
Submitted by well99 on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 11:36pm.
Wow for once your right.Bravo Bravo.I am proud of you Jer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkRCvb2xzZg&feature=fvsr
Jer~help me help myself
Submitted by GG_NB on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 5:46pm.
Okay, you are posting all over the place. How are you keeping track of all your posts? Is it the simple "pen-and-paper" method -- or have you got some other techno way to track your comments?
Pls. tell poor GG.
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
GG...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 6:25pm.
My wife and son are serving as my personal "tracking" system and sending email alerts whenever someone replies to one of my posts.
Just kidding, GG...
I just keep checking the Recent Comments, including the ones which are accessible by clicking More >
Toney posted an alternate method, but it seemed a bit complicated. I'm hoping the regular tracking function will be available soon.
I tried the search function, but it didn't work so well either.
Jer
Jer~
Submitted by GG_NB on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 10:05pm.
Okay, thanks. I guess I'll just stick to glancing at "Recent Comments" and only posting on a few blogs...everything else I've heard sounds complicated to me as well. ^_^
Yes, for the umpteenth time I've said this...I hope the tracker function comes back soon. :)
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
Can't Resist
Submitted by rammingspeed on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:30pm.
Dead Kennedy - good place for you
I kid.
I would kill on FoxNews. ; )
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:36pm.
I would kill on FoxNews. ; )
Jer is already there!
Submitted by Rukus on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 5:34pm.
http://www.foxnews.com/journal/
IE: jer@foxnews.com
: )
The newest dinosaur discovery: Track-a-saurus-rex.
Jon Stewart
Submitted by Phryj1 on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 3:16pm.
Notice he calls out Fox News for doing things that MSM news outlets do every single day, and yet he doesn't call them political organizations. Also note he levels these accusations at Fox News without specific examples (before you try to call me on not providing examples in my assertion that MSM outlets are everything Stewart says Fox News is, take a look at the articles on this site).
I know he does go after Democrats from time to time, but he primarily goes after the right, and his vitriol towards Fox News is pretty hypocritical if he's not taking left-wing sympathetic news outlets to task. If he's a moderate, he sure hides it pretty well.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
I'm amazed....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 3:17pm.
....at how bigger Jonnie's balls are when he's on Larry King than when he's talking to Bill "the Bloviator" O'Reilly.
In case no one noticed. Jon
Submitted by goldbar on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 3:38pm.
In case no one noticed. Jon Stewart is a COMEDIAN. The right gets upset when the left says something about Limbaugh and their defense is "He's an entertainer" . Right bat at'chya.
But Stewart wasn't doing
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:07pm.
But Stewart wasn't doing comedy, he was doing a political anaylisis.
Which is what Limbaugh does
Submitted by goldbar on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 5:54pm.
Which is what Limbaugh does five days a week.
Blah, blah, bla....
Submitted by Rukus on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 6:13pm.
bla..., oops! You ran out of blah, blah DNC talking points! I'll be a good samaratin and e-mail JorgeSoreAss and ask that he send you more blah blah's. I'm sure he has the $$ to help your sorry a$$ out. Thank me later loser. You're welcome btw.
goldbar
Submitted by well99 on Fri, 10/22/2010 - 1:26am.
Comedians are suppose to be funny.So that doesnt wash.I sure the psych wards are filled with people as delusional as Steward.Just because he thinks he is a comedian dont make it so.
Wrong, goldbar
Submitted by NC Cop on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 3:41pm.
The left uses the "entertainer" excuse whenever Maher, O'donnell, Behar, Stewart, Colbert, or any of the rest of the left wing Hollywood group says some of the most hateful and idiotic things ever. All you have is Limbaugh?
Once again, apples to oranges, but that's par for the course for the left.
Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly,
Submitted by goldbar on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 6:03pm.
Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly, Ingraham, Savage, Levin, Boortz, Medved, Hewitt...Hate talkers all. Beck is the worst offender. Although his revisionist history lessons are HILARIOUS!
Nowhere near as funny as the
Submitted by NC Cop on Fri, 10/22/2010 - 8:49am.
Nowhere near as funny as the clown in the White House!! Now THAT'S comedy!
"Hate talkers"??? Are you serious? Ever listened to Ed Schultz or Mike Malloy? You have no idea what a hate talker is, no big surprise.
They've filled books with all
Submitted by goldbar on Fri, 10/22/2010 - 6:47pm.
They've filled books with all the idiotic, inane comment W has made.
No they haven't, goldbar---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 10/22/2010 - 11:01pm.
You are a liar.
MD
Why is he given credibility?
Submitted by samhermanmd on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 3:46pm.
CNN, MSNBC and others are giving a comedian the same credibility which they deny to others who are not "real journalists" based on their shifting definitions.
So?
Submitted by JustAl on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 3:58pm.
Why the hell does anyone take someone seriously, who's entire purpose in life is to not be taken seriously?
As far as the credibility of
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:11pm.
As far as the credibility of CNN, the Fox News motto is Fair and Balanced, not Fair and Balanced.
Republicans aren't always talking about how awful the U.S.A. is, which is why they don't have to prove they love this country.
Good Luck With Your Silly Beliefs, Jon
Submitted by rammingspeed on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 4:25pm.
Jonny, buddy: You've faced criticsm that you and your beloved lefty buds are tyrannical socialists - because you are!
No hyperbole. You feel that way because people are pointing out your mistakes, and you believe you're right. But you ain't. The truth has become apparent to the overwhelming majority of Americans - Obama and his followers are (at best) neo-socialists, out to reform America.
CNN jonny you CNN?
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 11:40pm.
You mean the CNN that has employed Spitzer and Parker?
Can you really say CNN out loud and proudly? What a slut.
Jon Steward is nothing but a
Submitted by well99 on Thu, 10/21/2010 - 11:52pm.
Jon Steward is nothing but a shill.He lies but is consistant at it.He is a good little dem lapdog.Here Jon...fetch Jon...roll over Jon.
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