CNN's King Asks GOP Debaters Who Picked Better '08 VP Candidate, Obama or McCain?
Most of the questions raised during CNN's Republican Primary Debate Monday ranged from neutral to frivolous, although moderator John King slipped an obnoxious one in toward the end. King asked former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty which nomination for vice president during the 2008 campaign was better, Biden or Palin?
"Governor Pawlenty to you. Look back on 2008 and the process. President Obama made a pick. Senator McCain made a pick. Who made the best choice?" The question echoed liberal MSNBC host Chris Matthews from back in 2007, when he asked the Republican field "would it be good for America to have Bill Clinton back living in the White House?"
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Not surprisingly, CNN managed to fit in a jab at the Tea Party. The network allowed a concerned, self-identified "mainstream Republican" to ask the candidates if they would be influenced too much by the Tea Party – framing the grassroots movement as a sort of fringe political identity.
King followed up the audience member's question by asking Rick Santorum "are you concerned at all about the influence of the Tea Party?" He also pressed Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann to "address his concerns that...the influence of the Tea Party somehow pushes him out" of the Republican debate.
Earlier in the debate, King challenged Pawlenty on the positive effect that lowering taxes has on the job market, asking "where's the proof that just cutting taxes will create jobs?" He followed by asking where the jobs were after the Bush tax cuts.
Some of the more frivolous questions drew mockery from the internet masses, as King attempted to liven up the debate by closing and opening segments by asking "this-or-that" questions about pop culture and food, among other things, to make the candidates seem more personable.
King also invited Texas Congressman Ron Paul to praise the Obama administration's economic policies. "Has [Obama] done one thing – has he done one thing right when it comes to the economy in this country?" King asked.
A local political reporter also got the chance to press Herman Cain on his views toward Muslims serving in his administration. "Are American Muslims as a group less committed to the Constitution than, say, Christians or Jews?" he asked.
A transcript of some of the questions from the debate, which aired on June 13 at 8 p.m. EDT, is as follows:
JOHN KING: Governor Pawlenty, answer the critics -- and as you do so -- who say 5 percent every year is just unrealistic. And as you do so, where's the proof -- where's the proof that just cutting taxes will create jobs? If that were true, why, during the Bush years, after the big tax cut – where were the jobs?
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TERRY PFAFF, former New Hampshire state senate candidate: Well, my question is that I am a New Hampshire native and I've been an active Republican for years from a town committee chairman, Republican chairman, Merrimack County, vice chairman, all the way up to 2004 delegate for President Bush.
My question is, how will you convince myself – I'm not a libertarian Republican, I'm not a Tea Party Republican. I'm just a mainstream Republican. And we need both the independents and mainstream Republicans to win in November. How can you convince me and assure me that you'll bring a balance and you won't be torn to one side or the other from any faction within the party? You'll have to have a balanced approach to governing to solve our serious problems.
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KING: (to Santorum) But are you concerned at all about the influence of the Tea Party?
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KING: (to Bachmann) I know you agree, Congresswoman. So help the gentleman. Address his concerns that the Tea Party somehow – the influence of the Tea Party somehow pushes him out?
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JOSH MCELVEEN, senior political reporter, WMUR: While we're on the topic of faith and religion, the next question goes to Mr. Cain. You recently said you would not appoint a Muslim to your cabinet. Then you kind of backed off that a little bit and said that you would first want to know if they're committed to the Constitution. You expressed concern that, quote, "a lot of Muslims are not totally dedicated to this country." Are American-Muslims as a group less committed to the Constitution than, say, Christians or Jews?
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JENNIFER VAUGHN, WMUR: Thanks, John.
Senator Santorum, staying with you for a moment, if I may, you are staunchly pro-life. Governor Romney used to support abortion rights until he changed his position on this a few years ago. This has been thoroughly discussed. But do you believe he genuinely changed his mind, or was that a political calculation? Should this be an issue in this primary campaign?
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KING: Governor Romney, let me give you -- take -- take 20 or 30 seconds, if there's a Republican out there for whom this important, who questions your authenticity on the issue?
JOHN DISTASO, senior political reporter, New Hampshire Union Leader: Thank you, John.
Congressman Paul, this is for you. John, if you don't mind, I'd also like to hear from Governor Romney and a couple of the candidates, because it relates to a specific New Hampshire issue with a national question.
Here in New Hampshire, there is a popular bill that is being considered by our state legislature that would restrict the state's power to seize private land to build a power plant or a transmission facility. Should governments at any level be able to use eminent domain for major projects that will reduce America's dependence on foreign oil?
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DISTASO: Governor Romney, you're a property owner in New Hampshire. You are a New Hampshire property owner, but you also are for reducing our dependence on foreign oil. There are a lot of people in the state who are concerned about this project, but they also want to have energy independence. How do you feel about that?
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KING: All right. It is likely that the Republican nominee for president is standing on this stage tonight. If you win the nomination, you'll have to make the choice that a nominee makes, and that is picking a running mate. Governor Pawlenty to you. Look back on 2008 and the process. President Obama made a pick. Senator McCain made a pick. Who made the best choice?
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Ok lets take them one at a time
Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Tue, 06/14/2011 - 2:33pm.
King: "where's the proof that just cutting taxes will create jobs?"
ANSWER: The unemployment rate during the Bush years on average was what?... 6.5 %? Yeah thats what I thought....... SHUT UP king you know NOTHING hack!
King: "Has [Obama] done one thing – has he done one thing right when it comes to the economy in this country?"
ANSWER: The short answer is NO!! Unemployment is up to 9.1 % and rising, housing is still crashing, Jobs are STILL going overseas because this administration is ANTI Business, and Gas is going up and you REFUSE to do anything about it exept talking about having higher taxes!
King: "are you concerned at all about the influence of the Tea Party? "
ANSWER: NO! They brought to the forefront the very BAD policies that you and your ilk defend everyday. The fact is you marginalized the Tea Party, then you mocked them, and now the TRUTH is, you FEAR THEM! Especially after what happened in the midterms in 2010!
JOSH MCELVEEN (reporter) " Are American-Muslims as a group less committed to the Constitution than, say, Christians or Jews?"
ANSWER: NICE trick question Josh... If you want an answer you will have to ask Bar.... I mean a Muslim. better question why do Jews vote for democrats that hate Israel? Do American Jews look at themselves as Jews or as democrats first?... Now run along and go get you lollypop from Uncle Joe hes the one holding the super soaker... (The lollypops are in his right front pocket)
King: (On VP choice) "President Obama made a pick. Senator McCain made a pick. Who made the best choice? "AWW Please Governor Pawlenty Please bash Sarah Palin for us!!)
ANSWER: Senator McCain!! Palin is twice as smart, and ONE MILLION TIMES better looking then ole Plugs.......
Well these would have been my answers.... Hope you enjoy
The Bush unemployment rate
Submitted by eaglewingz08 on Tue, 06/14/2011 - 2:43pm.
The Bush unemployment rate was five percent, half of what it is now. And that was despite a democrap Congress for his last two years. Cutting taxes doesn't help employment, tell that to JFK who reduced tax rates and to Ronald Reagan. Tell that to Bush I who increase tax rates and lengthened the recession.
Its actually DEMONCRAP!
Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Tue, 06/14/2011 - 3:12pm.
We might as well get in TWO digs at them! They deserve more, but, alas, theres only so many letters that can fit into one word!
Here's my question to the Republican hopefuls.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 06/14/2011 - 3:10pm.
Why do you people even waste your time "debating" on the regime controlled networks?
Exactly what is it you gain?
Don't feed me that crap about reaching out to "undecided" voters. If ANY voter would even consider voting for Bambi under any circumstances, even if he were the ONLY candidate on the ballot, don't waste your breath on them. They're a moron!
why do republicans
Submitted by ohio granny on Tue, 06/14/2011 - 3:09pm.
Why do republicans even go on these networks? They have to know most of the questions are either stupid or gotcha. And to answer the question of who picked the best vice presidential candidate, no question but McCain did. And Governor Palin is still more qualified to be president than Obama is now (even after the 2 1/2 years he has been in office).
Who picked better VP candidate?
Submitted by Model850 on Tue, 06/14/2011 - 3:35pm.
Answer: What does that have to do with the 2012 election, John? This election is a referendum on Obama, not the '08 VP choices. The biggest question facing voters in 2012 is, can the country afford four more years of the current administration's incompetent, destructive social engineering?
The crying King
Submitted by circusstorm on Tue, 06/14/2011 - 4:11pm.
Usually king and his wife are yucking it up at degrading republican joke's. King and his CNN mob hated every bit of that debate. You could see it in their face's and hear it in their voice's. If the RNC does another debate with these hateful anti-american stations, they have gotten my last dollar. It's their choice. I will be waiting on an answer...
One of the classic bias questions John King asked last night was
Submitted by Rush Fan on Tue, 06/14/2011 - 4:46pm.
to former Speaker Newt Gingrich regarding immigration:
Newt Gingrich did an excellent job of criticizing John King's false straw man argument. Here is the VIDEO of the exchange. King's question to Gingrich on immigration begins at 21:25.
I agree Rush Fan
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 06/14/2011 - 4:51pm.
Newt kicked a** on the answer to that question. One of the highlights of his entire performance.
I don't know why Newt is running, other than to set himself up as a best selling author down the line. He's a lazy man, and doesn't have the stamina to do the thing properly (like Fred Thompson last time around). But I do enjoy his cerebral approach to certain issues (like this)....whilst I wish he'd STHU on things like Global Warming. I'm glad he's in on the early game to frame and shape certain issues. Like this one.
Excellent post, RF.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Blonde.....Thank you. I suspect you hit it right on the nail
Submitted by Rush Fan on Tue, 06/14/2011 - 8:44pm.
that Newt is running for the reasons you noted: (1) to frame and shape certain issues and (2) to stay in the limelight and preserve his relevancy so he can sell books, maintain his high speaking fees and continue to be asked to appear on "Meet the Press" and other mainstream shows. I suspect reason #2 is his priority.
I came across a VIDEO of Ann Coulter telling Sean Hannity:
After the 2008 election Rush Limbaugh was discussing RINOs Colin Powell and John McCain and said something that could be equally applied to Newt Gingrich:
Nevertheless, Newt still is one of our intellectuals, who can help Republicans frame and articulate the important issues for 2012.GMTA, Rush Fan
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 06/14/2011 - 9:04pm.
Also....what ends up happening with their warchests when they drop out?
Thoughts?
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Should go to the Party
Submitted by Boudin on Tue, 06/14/2011 - 9:11pm.
But some how, I doubt it
Blonde.....Your question is timely. The Left is beginning a new
Submitted by Rush Fan on Tue, 06/14/2011 - 10:43pm.
attack on Newt Gingrich. First it was the half-million dollars jewelry tab at Tiffany's, Now the leftist media is questioning his possible interspersing of cash between his non-profit and profit organizations.
Anderson Cooper began his show tonight with that allegation. ABC News has this headline on their website: Newt Gingrich Charity Paid Cash To Gingrich For-Profit Business.
Once the left is finished smearing Gingrich (hopefully the allegations are false), expect them to thoroughly investigate Michelle Bachman and the rest of the Republican candidates. After all, when it comes to investigating those on the Right, the state-run media will leave no stone or email unturned.
VP picks
Submitted by Patriot_765 on Tue, 06/14/2011 - 9:14pm.
Actually, I think Barry choose the "best" VP. Ole Joe will never upstage Barry; he is great health insurance and wonderful job insurance. Joe is doing a great job of watching out where and how the stimulus and TARP funds are spent and how they are getting repaid. He's always good to send overseas when you want to send a message that we really don't care about you and your problems, and he's great at kid’s parties.
Sarah on the other hand upstaged McLame from the start, she is smarter and better looking than all of them put together. She is real and unafraid. Way to strong to play second fiddle to McLame. The Democrats hounded her with the silly laws in Alaska to where she couldn't do the governors job, so she stepped down and has spent two years beating them at their own game. She has the alphabet news chasing her like they work for the National Enquirer (no slight intended for the NE).
Isn't it time..
Submitted by KornKing on Tue, 06/14/2011 - 9:28pm.
How about we have an answer like "what kind of a stupid flippin' question is that?"
AND
Submitted by KornKing on Tue, 06/14/2011 - 9:29pm.
Palin got McLame a couple of points in the overall vote percentage
I can't wait to see how CNN handles the Democrat debate.
Submitted by Tiger on Wed, 06/15/2011 - 8:42am.
Oh wait, never mind.
Who could be better than
Submitted by Cowboy on Wed, 06/15/2011 - 9:39am.
Who could be better than "Plugs" Biden and his "Summer of Recovery" comedy tour outside the country, away from the media??