CNN Deflects Scrutiny Away From Rapper's Violent Lyrics, Dismisses Controversy Over White House Invite
On Thursday morning, CNN largely dismissed the controversy over the White House invite of rapper Common, using talking points from the White House and Comedy Central's Daily Show to marginalize conservative critics.
Anchor Carol Costello deflected attention away from the rapper's violent lyrics by quoting a rap of his that has a pro-life message. She quoted none of his violent lyrics, however. Common has composed work in the past praising cop-killer Assata Shakur in "A Song for Assata," and has also ranted "burn a Bush" in rapping about the former president.
Conservatives were outraged over the artist's invite to the White House for an evening of poetry and song. The White House did condemn his violent lyrics "that has been written about" press secretary Jay Carney clarified, but did not renege on Common's invitation.
(Video after the break.)
"He's a complicated guy," Costello offered on CNN's 10 a.m. EDT news hour Thursday. CNN correspondent Jim Acosta agreed, and noted his "G-rated" performance at the White House. Then CNN played a clip from the Daily Show criticizing Fox News's scrutiny of the invite, and Acosta essentially used left-wing comedian Jon Stewart's rant as a buttress in support of Common's invite.
"You can't really throw stones at glass houses when it comes to poetry and rapping and music, especially when it comes to entertainers at the White House. They come from all stripes, Carol," Acosta preached.
Acosta then added White House talking points to the argument, quoting White House press secretary Jay Carney who "describes Common as a socially-conscious guy who has done other things. You know, he's been in a movie with Queen Latifah, so he's a little bit more than the caricatures that have been presented about him in the last couple of days."
A transcript of the segment, which aired on May 12 at 10:58 a.m. EDT, is as follows:
CAROL COSTELLO: Conservatives are slamming the White House's decision to invite the rapper Common to join in last night's poetry event. Critics point to the violent lyrics in a couple of his songs, but check out this line from "Retrospect For Life," where Common criticizes abortion.
This is the lyrics: "Musta really thought I was God to take the life of my son. From now on, I'm using self-control instead of birth control, because $315 ain't worth your soul."
He's a complicated guy. CNN's Jim Acosta joins us from Washington. Jim, what was last night's performance like?
JIM ACOSTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well Carol, as you just mentioned just a few moments ago, this is a rapper who is a bit more complicated than the charges that have been levels against him in the past couple days. Take, for example, his performance last night at the White House. It was considerably more G-rated.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
STEVE DOOCY, Fox News anchor: Some of his lyrics, they are raunchy, they are rough, they are raw.
KARL ROVE: Yes, let's invite a misogynist to the White House.
(LAUGHTER)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ACOSTA: Okay. Well, and then Comedy Central had some fun with the -- with some of the conservative attacks against Common last night. The Daily Show pointing out that even though folks like Karl Rove have come out against Common, that conservatives have also been, you know, on camera, and celebrated other recording artists out there, Carol, who have also said some controversial things in the past.
So, there's – you can't really throw stones at glass houses when it comes to poetry and rapping and music, especially when it comes to entertainers at the White House. They come from all stripes, Carol.
COSTELLO: They do. But he did read the poetry last night. He's not really prominently featured on WhiteHouse.gov as other --
ACOSTA: No, that's true. That's right.
COSTELLO: But the president does thank him at the end. So, we found that interesting, too. Jim Acosta -
ACOSTA: Yes.
COSTELLO: Oh, go ahead, Jim.
ACOSTA: No, I was just going to mention that Jay Carney was asked about this at the White House briefing yesterday, and describes Common as a socially conscious guy who has done other things. You know, he's been in a movie with Queen Latifah, so he's a little bit more than the caricatures that have been presented about him in the last couple of days. But the conversation will go on, as you know.
COSTELLO: Yes, there's controversy in everything, isn't there?
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This is really not a
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 05/12/2011 - 6:18pm.
This is really not a controversy at all, just something drummed up.
balboa
Submitted by well99 on Fri, 05/13/2011 - 12:02am.
You right...just what we need in the WH a poet that supports cop killers.
He doesn't support cop
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 05/13/2011 - 10:53am.
He doesn't support cop killers. He wrote lyrics about ONE person who was convicted of killing a cop, despite no evidence of her having shot a gun on that day.
Balboa
Submitted by well99 on Fri, 05/13/2011 - 12:32pm.
Oh really
"As the controversy flared online, conservative outlets reported that Common has voiced support for cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal. In his rap, “God Is Freedom,” he declared that “flyers say ‘free Mumia’ on my freezer.” Mumia Abu-Jamal was sentenced to death for the 1981 murder of police officer Daniel Faulkner. In an unfortunate coincidence, Common’s appearance at the White House event coincides with National Police Week."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi6tatSEaas
Guess you missed that one.That is ok.The left seems to idolize cop killers.As in Media Matters and the rest of those Soroites.
OK, TWO people, both with
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 05/13/2011 - 12:55pm.
OK, TWO people, both with controversy surrounding their convictions. Neither of which he "celebrated."
This is no way indicates that he thinks killing police is a good idea to be celebrated.
balboa
Submitted by well99 on Fri, 05/13/2011 - 1:47pm.
Oh how many does it take?Controversy according to the Msm maybe or the left.They were convicted.
Yes they were, and we all
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 05/13/2011 - 1:49pm.
Yes they were, and we all know that courts never make mistakes.
balboa
Submitted by well99 on Fri, 05/13/2011 - 2:11pm.
Well we will just have to agree to disagree.As far as courts OJ is proof of that.Doesn't mean it happens every time though.
Yup. I just think he's being
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 05/13/2011 - 2:23pm.
Yup. I just think he's being broadly characterized as someone who hates cops, likes to seem them killed, which seems unfair and reactionary.
balboa LIES again.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 5:07pm.
balboa the crypto-dummy: ...despite no evidence of her having shot a gun on that day.
She did not NEED to shoot a gun to be convicted and sentenced to life you LYING SNOT.
Shakur was convicted on all eight counts: two murder charges, and six assault charges.[6] The prosecution did not need to prove that Shakur fired the shots that killed either Trooper Foerster or Zayd Shakur: being an accomplice to murder carries an equivalent life sentence under New Jersey law.
WHY IS THE RETARD BALBOA CONSTANTLY LYING AND HARPING ON WHETHER CHESEMER SHOT THE TROOPER?
On March 25, 1977, back in Middlesex County, Shakur was convicted as an accomplice in the murders of New Jersey State Trooper Werner Foerster and Zayd Shakur and possession of weapons, as well as of assault and attempted murder of Harper
She was convicted as an ACCOMPLICE.
YOU LIE AGAIN FREAK SHOW. You don't need to shoot a gun to be an accomplice.
YOU LIE.
YOU LIE
YOU LIE.
Must be a day that contains 24 hours, balboa is posting Stupid again.
Why don't you LIE to us some more balboa?
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 5:29pm.
Yeah, you just a little jovial dummy posting here. Iz not liez mizzer. Honext. Cross both trollie hearts.
the lying balboa crypto-dummy: ...despite no evidence of her having shot a gun on that day...
The mean word bully Veet juz a posting nuttin' and lyin' about innocent jovial dummiz.
Accomplice Liability in New Jersey
In New Jersey, people can be subjected to a criminal charge even though s/he did not actively participate in an offense.
The criminal code in New Jersey establishes standards for accountability for not only an individual’s own conduct but also the actions of other people. An individual is responsible for the conduct of another person where the defendant:
• causes an innocent individual to commit the criminal act;
• is an accomplice in the commission of the crime; or
• conspires with another person to commit the criminal offense.
SHE WAS CONVICTED AS AN ACCOMPLICE YOU LYING SNOT.
Don't believe me. As usual, you will just claim the word bully said, did, proved, linked, sourced nuttin' cuz you get butt hurt by word bullies.
BELIEVE HER LAWYER --
However, Assata was not convicted of firing the shot that killed Trooper Foerster. She was convicted as an accomplice to his murder under New Jersey’s “aiding and abetting” statute. Under New Jersey law, if a person’s presence at the scene of a crime can be construed as “aiding and abetting” the crime, that person can be convicted of the substantive crime itself.
Now tell us all how innocent and stupid you are and how aw shucks you right wingers, iz just stupid and rilly done no nuttin', iz cant ivin reed like gude trollie.
See this time, as opposed to
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 5:31pm.
See this time, as opposed to the previous incident, you actually provided something of worth, a link that added something to the discussion.
Kudos.
Pack sand Retard.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 5:39pm.
I ain't your buddy. I caught you in a lie. Just like I predicted. Play it off like iz juz jovial stupid and we iz all buddiez. When all you do is walk around dismissing everything I post until you are caught so dead to rights it is impossible to squeeze out. Then suddenly it is, hey buddy, good job, love you. Kizzezz and huggiez diapers! Piss off. LIAR.
Kudoz. iz buzted lie again. Kudoz.
Pack sand. Pack it tight. Pack it hard. Pound it smooth.
LIAR.
Still struggling with that
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 5:42pm.
Still struggling with that definition of lying, I see. Give it time.
I dismissed what you posted before because it was worthless. This link isn't. Even though you didn't bother to follow the argument, I admit that I misspoke when I said she was convicted of shooting the trooper.
Whatever.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 5:51pm.
Sit here and LIE for 2 days telling us how innocent poor Joanne was cuz she dint fire no guns.
No. You don't have to explain why YOU LIED at all. Turn it back on the guy that caught you in a flat out LIE. It is all the word bulliz fault you misspoked an allz. I admit it now. I lied through my teeth to gain sympathy for the cause and play the whole thing like it twaz nuttin' big rilly. Juz misspoke. Just threw crap out there without knowing whether it was false or true. Just threw it out there knowing the stupid idiots on this site would not check. Your fault word bully. You did not fact check me earlier. Your fault. Your links. Your fault. I iz not lie. I iz just want a woman to be released from prison based on a lie I did not know was a lie. Free Assliea! Free Mumia. He is innocent too. I will pull that right out of my ass just like I do everything else. Free Asslamia! Now! Is got no gun. Iz shoot no one. Facts? Who needs facts in a court of law? Iz proud iz crypto-dummy!
The Lying crypto-dummy walks back a LIE.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 6:02pm.
The Lying crypto-dummy balboa: ...ONE person who was convicted of killing a cop, despite no evidence of her having shot a gun on that day.
The Lying crypto-dummy balboa: ...controversy surrounding their convictions.
The Lying crypto-dummy balboa: ...convicted of killing a cop even though it was never proven that she shot a gun that day, and might not have been actually guilty
The Lying crypto-dummy balboa: I admit that I misspoke when I said she was convicted of shooting the trooper.
Now that you admit you brought a LIE here. Tell us all what the CONTROVERSY is. Tell us how she MIGHT NOT EVEN BE ACTUALLY GUILTY.
Or are you misspoking about that as well.
Tell us Retard. You gonna walk it all back?
How much more are you gonna walk back crypto-dummy?
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 6:19pm.
Kingfish17: Do you think that Mumia and Assata are innocent of the crimes for which they have been convicted?
the crypto-dummy balboa: I think there's a possibility, from what I've read.
So tell us about the controversies and possibilities when you can't even get what she was convicted of correct? Do tell us crypto-dummy. And by all means, make it as cryptic as possible and blame it all on the word bully for reading the poor trollie all wrong.
the crypto-dummy balboa: Have you read about either case?
Come on. You are the expert. Even though you whine that she did not shoot anyone. Well thank GAWD for that because she was not convicted of shooting anyone.
So tell us all how she is innocent of being an ACCOMPLICE TO MURDER even though she did not fire a gun.
Oh crypto-dummy. Where did you go? Why run off?
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 10:51pm.
balboa the admitted Liar: ...I admit that I misspoke when I said she was convicted of shooting the trooper.
Hey, you ran off and started posting somewhere else before you could tell us all about the controversies and possibilities and the might not even be guiltyings. Come on crypto-dummy. You owned up to your LIE. Now tell us what other controverspossibitings there are. WE ARE WAITING.
Once you are done with Joanne, you can move on to Mumia and how it is not possible for him to be guilty when he was found at the crime scene with a bullet from the gun of the dead Police Officer in his gut and a few of the bullets from his registered gun in the back of the dead Police Officer, you know, the gun the was sitting right there in arm's reach of him at the crime scene. Tell us how it was all a miscarriage of justice. WE ARE WAITING.
Hello. Where are you. It was so much fun insulting and harassing me for 2 days. Now tell us.
Waiting on you. I only have so much patience here. If you have the right to lie and then run. I have the right to follow you and remind you of your LIES.
1. Read about the case. 2. I
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 05/17/2011 - 10:22am.
1. Read about the case.
2. I don't really know. Seems to be some discrepancies in how the shooting occurred, lies were told and then recanted by the other trooper on the scene. She might be guilty, as she was found guilty, but Common obviously thinks she's innocent.
3. See no. 2.
The point to all of this is that Common is not glorifying cop killing, as most people on the right are quick to say. He does not advocate killing cops, he's not justifying killing cops.
Now, have a bran muffin.
Not about Common, now is it.
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 05/17/2011 - 1:00pm.
It is about you lying. Now. repeating that there is controversies, possibilities and not guilties, in addition to the expansion of your story of now sayinng there are discrepancies is the issue here.
You have already recanted YOUR LIE. Reading the case will do nothing to get you to explain the AGAIN controversies AGAIN possibilities AGAIN might not be guiltinesses. YOU. YOU crypto-dummy MADE THE ACCUSATIONS. BACK IT UP. I am not your little slave. I have the LAW on my side. SHE WAS CONVICTED BY A JURY OF 12 PEOPLE. You say they are wrong. PROVE IT.
Common did not bring AGAIN controversies AGAIN possibilities AGAIN might not be guiltinesses. YOU. YOU crypto-dummy MADE THE ACCUSATIONS. YOU BROUGHT IT HERE.
Back it up, proven liar. Or back it down.
I'm not backing down on
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 05/17/2011 - 1:37pm.
I'm not backing down on anything. If you could stop working yourself into a crazed lather for a few seconds, you might understand things better.
You play your little troll games.
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 05/17/2011 - 9:03pm.
You call me names. Insult me. Accuse me of every little act you want. I WILL NOT SHUT UP.
Now. I asked you a question.
So let's hear it. What lies were told and recanted by the surviving trooper? Were they recanted before or after the trial? Did they have a material effect on the case? Were they brought up during the appeal? Did the recanted lies of the trooper unshoot the shot troopers? Were the lies about Joanne Chesimard? Where is the appeal based upon recanted lies?
Hahaha! I insult you?! Well
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 05/17/2011 - 9:50pm.
Hahaha! I insult you?! Well hello there pot. That is rich.
Ha Ha Ha. Oh wait. Not.
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:35pm.
Back it up known LIAR.
So let's hear it. What lies were told and recanted by the surviving trooper? Were they recanted before or after the trial? Did they have a material effect on the case? Were they brought up during the appeal? Did the recanted lies of the trooper unshoot the shot troopers? Were the lies about Joanne Chesimard? Where is the appeal based upon recanted lies?
You ain't playing stupid this time by distracting with minutea. You are a LIAR that hides behind playing stupid when called out. You made an accusation. BACK IT THE FRELL UP.
Let's hear it.
Submitted by The Vet on Wed, 05/18/2011 - 9:44pm.
You told me to read the case and yet you can't even get the charges right.
So let's hear it. What lies were told and recanted by the surviving trooper? Were they recanted before or after the trial? Did they have a material effect on the case? Were they brought up during the appeal? Did the recanted lies of the trooper unshoot the shot troopers? Were the lies about Joanne Chesimard? Where is the appeal based upon recanted lies?
Since you have read about the case and know about recanting lies, give me a link to read about the case from a disinterested party with court transcripts.
balboa LIES again.
Submitted by The Vet on Wed, 05/18/2011 - 12:11am.
Or is it just another mispeakin' again.
balboa: ...lies were told and then recanted by the other trooper....
Under cross-examination at both Acoli and Shakur's trials, Trooper Harper admitted to having lied in these reports and in his Grand Jury testimony about Trooper Foerster yelling and showing him an ammunition clip, about seeing Shakur holding a pocketbook or a gun inside the vehicle, and about Shakur shooting at him from the car
This is clearly a case of the defense team twisting Harper’s testimony and written report out of context. Harper testified that Chesimard shot from the car. How did he know that? Did he see it? Well, no, he did not see her shoot (as he was distracted with the fight with the others outside the car), but he concluded that she did as he knew that shots came from the car and Chesimard was the only one in it. Completely circumstantial, but very strong (as circumstantial evidence goes).
The defense spins it to the jury as a “lie” and the prosecution spins it as a “clarification”, but its up to the jury to decide if the testimony is credible, which they did in this case.
There is your trooper lie. The trooper said Chesimard shot from the car. As the other 2 people were outside involved in the firefight, he knew it was her rather than seeing her physically.
The jury did not think he lied, oh wait mispoke is the new word for lie around here.
ANOTHER LIE FROM BALBOA.
"Trooper Harper admitted to
Submitted by balboa on Wed, 05/18/2011 - 8:23am.
"Trooper Harper admitted to having lied in these reports and in his Grand Jury testimony about Trooper Foerster yelling and showing him an ammunition clip, about seeing Shakur holding a pocketbook or a gun inside the vehicle, and about Shakur shooting at him from the car."
That is what I referenced. Does it mean she's innocent? No. Could it give people --such as Common -- reason to believe that maybe she was wrongly convicted? Along with the testimony that Shakur was shot with her hands up? Obviously, since he thinks she's innocent.
balboa LIES again.
Submitted by The Vet on Wed, 05/18/2011 - 8:56am.
You reference what LIAR? Who are you quoting? Huh, LIAR? Who? Tell us. YOU LIE AGAIN. What is the status of the APPEAL if he lied under oath? Huh?
SOURCE IT YOU VICIOUS LYING SNOT.
We don't even have to wait for the LIAR to answer. The entire source of the trooper lies comes from Evelyn Williams, Joanne Chesimard's aunt, and an attorney for the Black Liberation Army. She had some kind of bullbalboa Statement of facts baloney that looks to have been created in 2005 and gets spammed into the comments of any website that mentions the name Joanne Chesimard. It is nothing but a bunch of biased bull that gerber propaganda babies lie balboa suck up with a straw.
"You reference what
Submitted by balboa on Wed, 05/18/2011 - 9:32am.
"You reference what LIAR?"
Text from Wikipedia.
"Who are you quoting? Huh, LIAR? Who? Tell us."
Wikipedia
"YOU LIE AGAIN. What is the status of the APPEAL if he lied under oath? Huh?"
I don't know. I assume that the jury determined the contradictory statements didn't change their minds overall.
"SOURCE IT YOU VICIOUS LYING SNOT."
Wikipedia.
"We don't even have to wait for the LIAR to answer. The entire source of the trooper lies comes from Evelyn Williams, Joanne Chesimard's aunt, and an attorney for the Black Liberation Army. She had some kind of bullbalboa Statement of facts baloney that looks to have been created in 2005 and gets spammed into the comments of any website that mentions the name Joanne Chesimard. It is nothing but a bunch of biased bull that gerber propaganda babies lie balboa suck up with a straw."
If you say so.
enjoy your wikipedia crypto-dummy.
Submitted by The Vet on Wed, 05/18/2011 - 12:29pm.
Sources from the article -
1, NYT - Mark Lewis Taylor - article His source? An interview with Joanne Chesimard. Oh and he says this --
The police claim they stopped her and her friends on the turnpike because she was wanted on bank robbery and murder charges.
LIE. The police claim they stopped the vehicle for a broken tail light. He could not even get that tiny fact correct.
2. Kirsta, Alix. (May 29, 1999). "A black and white case – Investigation – Joanne Chesimard". The Times. --- Anyone seen hide nor hair of this article DESPITE being published in the internet era? Source for this article? Unknown.
3. James, Joy. (1996). Transcending the Talented Tenth: Black Leaders and American Intellectuals pp. 202–203 --- On Amazon --- 202 does not list. here is what it says at the top of 203 --- "admitted during cross examination to having lied under oath; in retraction he admitted that he had never seen Shakur with a gun, and in fact she had not shot him."
Again, the trooper CLARIFIED his reports. He knew it was Chesimard because the other 2 were outside. SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE IN THE CAR. It does not take a rocket scientist to tell who it was shooting from INSIDE THE CAR. He did not have to see who it was shooting as everyone else was OUTSIDE.
There are no court transcripts published. The police reports and statement of the surviving officer is not available. The surviving officer does not do interviews. The prosecution does not do interviews.
ALL WE HAVE ARE THE WORDS OF JOANNE CHESIMARD AND HER Contempt of Court Aunt.
UP YOURS YOU LYING BULLBALBOA ARTIST.
There is no controversies. There is no possibilities. There is no might be not guilty.
THERE IS ONLY THE WORDS OF A COVICTED CRIMINAL THAT ESCAPED JAIL AND FLED TO CUBA, AND HER PROPAGANDISTS. THIS NOW INCLUDES THE BULLBALBOA ARTIST BALBOA.
YOU LIE.
Well you be sure to tell
Submitted by balboa on Wed, 05/18/2011 - 3:00pm.
Well you be sure to tell Common that the next time you see him. Tell him in all caps, too.
Ah good. I actually look things up. All you do is taunt
Submitted by The Vet on Wed, 05/18/2011 - 9:28pm.
Needle and taunt. I actually research. You NEEDLE and TAUNT me.
Yes. That is how it works huh? I find out the truth. You think it is funny to taunt and needle. Then you have the gall to whine to others how crazy and mean and what a bad word bully I am. I am sure you even send PM's to the admins. Look at the mean word bully.
Izza juzza big dummy. no unnerstan why word bully pick on big dummiz. Pliz adminz, ban word bulliz.
Oh, pliz. word bulliz complainz. He siz namez. sunonez estop word bulliz.
In the meantime, did you answer ONE QUESTION? YOU made the ACCUSATIONS. NOT Common. Not Common. Not a single other person here. You did. Then went straight into taunt and needle mode just like you do. And when others get sick of your needling and taunting. Why then it is time to go into juzzastupid mode just like you do every single time. hey wurd bulliz, iz not bite uze honext
•What is the controversy about the conviction of Joanne Chesimard? YOU SAID THERE WAS ONE.
• What is the possibility of Joanne Chesimard being innocent? YOU SAID THERE WAS ONE.
• How is it that Joanne Chesimard might not be guilty? YOU SAID SHE MIGHT NOT BE GUILTY.
Waiting for you to stop tauniting and needling and start telling the truth for once.
Wow... 1. Read. 2. I don't
Submitted by balboa on Wed, 05/18/2011 - 10:48pm.
Wow...
1. Read.
2. I don't know. This is an opinion held by Common. I don't know if she's innocent or not.
3. I don't know. This is an opinion held by Common.
AS I'VE SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN, I WAS EXPLAINING WHY COMMON MIGHT HAVE THIS OPINION, WHY HE ISN'T GLORIFYING COP KILLING. I DON'T REALLY CARE IF SHE'S INNOCENT OR NOT.
Lying is not proving your case.
Submitted by The Vet on Wed, 05/18/2011 - 11:32pm.
balboa: He wrote lyrics about ONE person who was convicted of killing a cop, despite no evidence of her having shot a gun on that day. --- Common did not say there was no evidence. YOU DID.
balboa: OK, TWO people, both with controversy surrounding their convictions. -- Common did not say there was controversy here at NewsBusters. YOU DID.
balboa: ...even though it was never proven that she shot a gun that day, and might not have been actually guilty... --- Common did not say she might not be guilty here at NewsBusters. YOU DID.
Kingfish17: Do you think that Mumia and Assata are innocent of the crimes for which they have been convicted?
balboa: I think there's a possibility, from what I've read --- Common did not say there is a possibility she is innocent here at NewsBusters. YOU DID.
You were talking for yourself. Not Common when you made every one of those statements. You did not say Common feels or thinks this. You EXPLICITLY jumped down someone's throat when they tried to say Common thought something.
Now, make your case.
I am not your buddy. Do not PM me.
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 05/19/2011 - 1:16pm.
There is nothing personal to be said between us.
"I never said the killers should walk free. I never said I thought I was better than 12 jurors. I never said the evidence is wanting. I said that there appeared to be some controversy about the conviction--WHICH THERE IS. Whether anyone chooses to believe it or not, it's still there. The trooper changed his story. He said he saw Assata shoot a gun, said his partner pulled a clip of ammo out of the car and yelled to him. Then later said that didn't happen. Assata was shot with her hands up and once in the back. According to the only evidence I have read about, she could not have shot a gun after being shot. That appears to be enough of a controversy for Common and others to think she's innocent. I don't know if she's innocent. Don't care. Now go away. I am done with this issue. I have explained my opinions. And don't dare to act so polite when you've been nothing but a complete and utter nutjob towards me. "
As I have stated, passing on the LIES of Joanne Chesimard and her crazy aunt is NOT evidence.
And we all know that
Submitted by NC Cop on Wed, 05/18/2011 - 9:30pm.
And we all know that Wikipedia never makes mistakes.
Yes Sir.
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 05/19/2011 - 1:32am.
And this is clearly a case of wikipedia not getting the story properly sourced. The 3 sources I have shown all get their stories from the convicted murderer or her aunt. There is no court transcript released to date. The prosecution, witnesses and surviving Police Officer don't do interviews nor have they written any books. So all we have is one side releasing a bunch of propaganda with no counter and wikipedia prints it as if it is all true, hiding behind biased sources.
And balboa the crypto-dummy repeating it all as though it were the Gawd's honest truth then hiding behind his aww shucks I is just sayin' what Common might be thinkin' iz all. Shucks. When he crawled up some guys butt for doing the very same thing --
balboa: Nowhere in the link is there any proof that Common believes...
balboa: Could it give people --such as Common -- reason to believe...
balboa: ..I WAS EXPLAINING WHY COMMON MIGHT HAVE THIS OPINION...
No Controversy?
Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 05/13/2011 - 2:08pm.
Surely you jest. Even our cousins the Brits think it is.
President Obama and wife Michelle faced a storm of protest after they played host to a rapper who praised a convicted cop killer and a poet who condemned inter-racial marriage.
Police officers and politicians voiced their disgust at the bizarre guest list for the racially charged event at the White House celebrating America poetry, which included rapper Lonnie Rashid Lynn Jr who called for the burning of George Bush.
The First Lady also welcomed controversial poet Jill Scott who declared her opposition to marriage between black and white people, saying it made her ‘wince’.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Complete.
Submitted by bob loblaw on Thu, 05/12/2011 - 8:48pm.
Complete. Nonsense.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-may-11-2011/tone-def-poetry-jam
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-may-11-2011/tone-def-poetry-jam---...
To round this out
Submitted by BosTarus on Thu, 05/12/2011 - 9:03pm.
I concur!
And whoever said that liberals---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 05/12/2011 - 9:09pm.
think alike?
bal-bob-bos
Too funny !
MD
I hate these "controversies"
Submitted by OffTheLows on Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:11pm.
I like Common, he's a popular rapper that's liked across genres, especially with younger people. This dumb exercise by O'Reilly, Hannity, Beck and others is just the thing younger voters disturbed by liberal economic policy recoil from and make harder to flip over to the conservative side. Stop the behavior that plays into the angry, white old man stereotype and concentrate on more tangible issues.
You've got to be kidding
Submitted by ArrowSmith on Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:14pm.
I'm sure standing up for thug-rappers who defend cop-killers is real popular.
Rappers who write about one
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:19pm.
Rappers who write about one specific person convicted of killing a cop even though it was never proven that she shot a gun that day, and might not have been actually guilty, that might strike a chord with young people.
Also
Submitted by BosTarus on Fri, 05/13/2011 - 1:15pm.
Can we stop calling him a "thug rapper". It basically betrays your ignorance of the genre altogether if you feel Common; the white-bread, vanilla rapper; is a "thug". I'd imagine you might call all rappers "thugs"?
Also, it's demeaning to the rappers who actually work very hard to cultivate the image of "thug"... they work very hard at it, and they'd hate to be associated with someone as tame as Common. Show some respect for actual thugs!
Vanilla Rapper?
Submitted by 1dottiemarty on Sat, 05/14/2011 - 11:41am.
White bread, vanilla rapper? That's funny......I thought he was AGAINST interacial dating. Take it he doesn't care for the white folks much. Same with Jill Scott also invited to the White House. She is sickened by interacial dating. That's funny......I thought white people were the only ones who could be racist. You would think President O would be a little offended by that considering his mother was white. However, he is too busy trying to be cool and have celebrity friends rather than be bothered by their ridiculous views. (Of which many he agrees, I'm sure) I would say that a rapper who sings about burning Bush and carrying guns on him to put the police to sleep.........not exactly Wonder Bread, vanilla thoughts and principles. So, thug rapper? If it quacks like a duck. Pointing to other rappers who are worse does not make this man any less of a crapweasel.
What's funny...
Submitted by BosTarus on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 2:22pm.
Is the blatant misinterpretation of a single poem from his entire decades-long catalogue of work. No one finds it suspect that all of the offensive lyrics quoted are from a single work? AND that everyone is ignoring the final verse of said work, which refutes the statements made earlier in the same work.
So, yes; when you cherry pick offensive lines, out of context, you can indeed make him seem like an insane radical. Pretty easy to do actually.
You can probably do it to every artist who has a substantial body of work.
How many times is the LYING crypto-dummy gonna repeat this lie?
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 5:11pm.
balboa the LYING crypto-dummy: ...even though it was never proven that she shot a gun...
She was convicted as an ACCOMPLICE to the murder of a Police Officer. ACCOMPLICE.
OffTheLows---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 05/14/2011 - 6:39pm.
How about you stop judging other's behavior based on your stereotypes?
MD
Yes, because we all know that
Submitted by NC Cop on Wed, 05/18/2011 - 9:35pm.
Yes, because we all know that if Bush had invited a singer who sang about slavery to the White House, nobody would care..............right? The hypocrisy of the left is simply stunning.