WaPo's Eugene Robinson and 'Morning Joe' Hosts: Conservative Leaders 'Embarrassing' on Egypt Policy
Liberal Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson trashes conservative leaders in his latest column – for not taking a clear stand on the Egyptian crisis and for not supporting the populist protests. "Why don't conservatives love freedom?" he provocatively asked, concluding that if conservatives think 1.2 billion Muslims cannot be trusted to rule themselves, "that's not what I call loving freedom." His logic is deafening.
Robinson accused conservative leaders of opposing Obama's Egypt policy simply because they are thinking "heaven forbid the that the president get any credit." He used their "ambivalence" at CPAC – which he characterized as either silence or a vague shot at the Obama administration – to condemn what he thinks is their opposition to freedom in the Middle East.
"Mitt Romney went to CPAC and didn't mention Egypt at all, which was, you'd think he'd be paying attention," Robinson noted. He questioned other conservative leaders for being "so kind of silent, and/or grumpy throughout the CPAC gala, and even beyond, in the case of some conservatives. What we're talking about is freedom, which everybody wants and loves."
Robinson was joined heartily on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" Tuesday by co-hosts Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough, who opened fire on the conservatives. "I completely agree with you," Brzezinski told Robinson. "I just think some Republicans...were just taking cheap shots for no reason and they were talking out of both sides of their mouths."
"It was embarrassing," Scarborough lamented of the conservative leadership at CPAC. "A lot of conservatives embarrassed themselves this weekend. Newt Gingrich gave something – just an inane answer on 'This Week,' talking about why he opposed the President's Egypt policy. I still can't see what he or Sarah Palin – what their criticisms are based in."
The comments came a day after Harvard History professor Niall Ferguson provided "Morning Joe" with an articulate, detailed, and biting critique of Obama's handling of the Egypt crisis. The panel was left rather speechless for about ten minutes, offering little substantial opposition to Ferguson's arguments. However, on Tuesday, they blamed conservatives for failing to provide clear opposition to or solid support for Obama's agenda.
The panel at least agreed that Speaker of the House John Boehner performed admirably in his support of the President's Egypt policy. But he was the only Republican or conservative they had nice words for.
Near the end of the segment, Mika Brzezinski desperately wanted the panel to give President Carter credit for his peacemaking in the Middle East. "While we're at it, wouldn't we argue, Joe, couldn't you say, Joe, that thirty years ago President Carter owns that cornerstone of peace when it comes to the – I just, this is a good opportunity. C'mon."
Scarborough and Robinson had been discussing the link between the Bush and Obama administration policies that helped ensure the possibility for democracy in Egypt. Scarborough scoffed at Mika's suggestion, however, as did the rest of the panel.
A transcript of the segment, which aired on February 15 at 8:21 a.m. EST, is as follows:
MIKA BRZEZINSKI: (to Eugene Robinson) You write in the Washington Post today "The GOP Loves Freedom – But Not for Egypt."
"Why don't conservatives love freedom?... Boehner at least has come out forcefully on the side of freedom. But why the ambivalence from so many prominent conservatives? For one thing... there's the fact that all of this is happening on Obama's watch. If everything turns out well, heaven forbid that the President get any credit."
I completely agree with you. I think that some Republicans – specifically Newt Gingrich, and a little bit Pawlenty there – were just taking cheap shots for no reason and they were talking out of both sides of their mouths.
EUGENE ROBINSON: Well that's the way I saw it, Mika. Mitt Romney went to CPAC and didn't mention Egypt at all, which was, you'd think he'd be paying attention. But I just kind of wondered why they were so kind of silent, and/or grumpy throughout the CPAC gala, and even beyond, in the case of some conservatives. What we're talking about is freedom, which everybody wants and loves.
BRZEZINSKI: I couldn't agree with you more. I thought John Boehner was fair, and (to Joe Scarborough) – what, you're not talking, are you?
ROBINSON: He was very fair.
MARK HALPERIN, Time magazine: You know, Republican leaders are remarkably silent. You go back to right after the election when Mitch McConnell was asked about China policy and basically said "I have nothing to say about China policy." In part they agree with the President; in part, they know at an event like CPAC that if they come out and say they agree with the President in a full-throated way, the base doesn't like that. They want opposition to the President, no matter what he's doing.
BRZEZINSKI: So why can't they agree on things going well? This is both sides, by the way.
(...)
JOE SCARBOROUGH: It was embarrassing. A lot of conservatives embarrassed themselves this weekend. Newt Gingrich gave something – just an inane answer on "This Week," talking about why he opposed the President's Egypt policy. I still can't what he or Sarah Palin – what their criticisms are based in.
BRZEZINSKI: He said the President shouldn't speak out so forcefully about something like this happening in Egypt. At the same time, he should speak out forcefully for democracy.
ANDREW ROSS-SORKIN, New York Times financial columnist: Eugene, what did you want them to say?
ROBINSON: Well, I wanted them to say, you know, that we support freedom and democracy in Egypt and, um, and if they didn't have any real criticism of the President, just to – just to say "We support what the administration's trying to do, period. (Crosstalk) But clearly we knew the direction that the United States ought to be pushing, I think. Now there's some people who disagree. There's some people who think we should have backed Mubarak because he was – he upheld the peace treaty with Israel, and he's been an ally for thirty years. And so if they believed that, they could have come out and said that. But instead it was just kind of this grumbling that was, at times, incoherent.
SCARBOROUGH: Now Gene, Republicans would, I'm sure many would say that Democrats didn't always line up rationally behind the President on his foreign policy. What would you say to those conservatives?
ROBINSON: Oh, well they would have a point about some people – although there is a difference between supporting demonstrators in the street who are clamoring for freedom, and supporting the invasion of a country to bring democracy to the country. I mean, it's not an equivalence there. But sure, I'm sure you could find instances of when democrats were reflexively against something that George Bush did. George Bush has never gotten credit that he deserves for what he's done to combat AIDS in Africa, for example. He did more than any other President. I've written about that and I've praised him for that, and a lot of people haven't.
SCARBOROUGH: Gene, what about Egypt particularly? Could we not say...that George W. Bush's freedom agenda, Condoleezza Rice's speech in 2005, Bush's speech to Egypt in 2008, when he sounded some of the same themes that Barack Obama did in 2009 – can we not say that Bush did pretty well, considering that Mubarak couldn't wait for him to get out, as well as Obama, that we actually may have had an enlightened policy toward Egypt over the past five years, with Republicans and Democrats?
ROBINSON: You draw that line all the way through Obama's Cairo speech, and I think what you have is a fairly consistent policy that finally has borne fruit. So George Bush and Condoleezza Rice stood for freedom in the Arab world and around the world, and as a philosophical stance that's absolutely right.
BRZEZINSKI: Well couldn't we – wait, wait, wait, wait, wait – sorry, while we're at it, wouldn't we argue, Joe, couldn't you say, Joe, that thirty years ago President Carter owns that cornerstone of peace when it comes to the – I just, this is a good opportunity. C'mon.
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Heaven forbid!
Submitted by almostacowboy on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 6:39pm.
E. Robinson:"heaven forbid the that the president get any credit."
Well, Mr. Robinson, it's like this. The world, outside of the Nobel Prize committee, kind of expects someone to actually do something before giving them credit for it. Odd bunch, aren't we?
Credit for WHAT?
Submitted by drsamherman on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 8:54pm.
Egypt did not instantly become a democracy. Instead, power is now in the hands of the military. How is this any victory for democracy? In six months, their army could say the country was not ready and retain power. What will Eugene say if that happens? You can bet he won't blame Ear Leader for that.
That's exacly the Policy
Submitted by dirtydan64 on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 11:22pm.
Most Americans are taking at the moment, were smart enough to know there's not been much success with the exception the Egyptian People force Mubrak out and now we along with the Egyptian People are holding our breath to see what the Egyptian Armies next move is, do they hold special election well before the September deadline, or wait until then or do they use their power momentarily to pick a successor and allow the entire Freedom Reo,union to blow up the entire AMiddle East ?? it's along time between now & September in case Robinson, Mika, Joe and Democrats haven't noticed where instead there always so eager to claim victory before Victory has been won !!So eveyrone who made fun of Bush and his Mission Accomplished
Submitted by Lipton on Wed, 02/16/2011 - 12:31pm.
sign is ready to give Obama credit for being little more than a bystander heckling both teams.
Oh the sting of having what
Submitted by amyshulk on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 9:54pm.
Oh the sting of having what you did to others being flipped back on you, poor Eugene. Need some salve?
Ronald Reagan
like sucking on lemons
Submitted by MidAmerica on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 7:00pm.
Wow! They are so desperate to try to imagine that Egypt is on the right track and will blossom into a peaceful secular haven of freedom on the Nile that they will actually praise George Bush?
Embarrassing??
Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 7:05pm.
How about poor Nic Robertson of CNN trying to find someone in Cairo to thank the Chairman for what happened in Egypt the other day and getting told otherwise while on live TV?
You gotta feel bad for Nic. And given that CNN is one of the branches of the WH News Propaganda, ouch......
-Jon
not exactly Ben Franklins and George Washingtons over there
Submitted by MidAmerica on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 7:14pm.
CBS's Laura Logan was brutally sexually assaulted in Egypt.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/15/60minutes/main20032070.shtml?tag=cbsnewsMainColumnArea
Good thing she's not Muslim because now her father would have to stone her to death to save his family honor.
That's awful
Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 7:18pm.
You know, despite her misgivings and etc, I feel awful that this happened to her.
I hope she remembers that she owes her life to those Egyptian soldiers(not sure what the story was on the group of women who helped, but ok). She could have been killed.
-Jon
rose colored glasses
Submitted by MidAmerica on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 7:31pm.
The organizations who send out women into a situation like this in a culture that is extremly male dominated without fully armed escorts are naive at best or criminally negligent. In cultures where women are second class citizens they have few protections against this kind of violence because if they are not of the faith, dressed modestly, and not in the company of male relative then they are 'asking for it'.
Clarification and you're right
Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 8:13pm.
You are absolutely correct, I had been thinking along those lines. I should amend what I said that I feel awful for her because she works for some really inconsiderate or really dumbass people.
I would never send a woman in a culture like that.
-Jon
Press Jumps The Shark again
Submitted by Slyrr on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 7:33pm.
Pretty soon the ocean is going to run out of sharks for the liberal media to jump.
Everyone saw Obama's pathetic waffling during the whole Egypt mess. It was just like when the oil leak happened. Obama sat by the sidelines and did nothing, then when it was all over and other people had solved the problem, he rode into town on a golden chariot saying 'It was all because of ME! I solved this! Me! Me! Not them!' Then he shut down domestic oil production completely and plunged the country further into recession.
In Egypt, Obama reverted to his community organizer thug behavior and ran out in front of the mob, pretending that he was controlling them. The mob flipped him off and told him to mind his own business. So Obama and his witless cabinet made contradictary statements every hour, making sure they covered all the bases.
Then when the situation resolved, they picked one of the responses they gave which came closest to the outcome and said 'See? See? WE fixed this!'
It's pathetic watching the liberal media. Every day they embarrass themselves in a vain effort to cover the ugly backside of this horrible administration.
Washed Up Post.
Submitted by SnapTie on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 7:55pm.
Genie Washington is a flaming freak.He agrees with anything said on MSNBC.Starting to drool like his close friend Tingles.
Affirmative action hire?
Submitted by Red Jeep on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 8:48pm.
Affirmative action hire?
I'll admit I don't see his
Submitted by amyshulk on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 10:05pm.
I'll admit I don't see his "smarts" so much as I see his willingness to be a yes man.
Ronald Reagan
Cpac Silence
Submitted by NevadanConservative on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 8:30pm.
Quite simple. The GOP were letting BHO have enough rope. I mean, HOW MANY times did this goof flipflop during all this? NVConWe'll see who ends up being
Submitted by forest on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 8:40pm.
We'll see who ends up being embarrassed.
I must admit I've been
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 8:46pm.
I must admit I've been embarrassed since BO was elected.
For the first time in my adult life, I'm not proud of my country.
WHAT " Egypt policy" can there be at this time?
Submitted by CobraMan on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 9:34pm.
Hay, idiots, there isn't any policy concerning Egypt right now because there isn't an Egypt per say. There's a military junta in charge of a defunct government, and escalating chaos, and that's it!
There's NO democracy, there's no resolution to the protests, there's no functioning government, there's actually NOTHING on which to form any kind of policy! It's worse than Iraq after the fall of the Saddam administration or Afghanistan after the fall of the Taliban! At least then both county's population KNEW there was a resolution available. The citizen of Egypt have no such assurances right now. These people are just one step away from a full-scale civil war!
The Egyptian government, what little of it remains, as well as the general population, is in a state of chaos. Any political dialog with Egypt right now can't exist! There's no real political authority in which to have a dialog with. You can't form a policy when there's no dialog in which to define that policy. No government, no polices concerning that government. Got it? I mean, really, how hard is it to figure out?
Now, please explain how the liberals are any different than the conservatives concerning the crisis in Egypt. The way I see it, you don't have any real policies right now. Be realistic, your policy is to let chaos reign while complaining that someone else isn't doing something to mitigate that chaos or, worse yet, complaining when others don't follow YOUR support of utter chaos! That's not policy, that's hypocrisy! Tell me tell you; hypocrisy isn't a very good policy. As a matter of fact, it's extremely disruptive!
So, liberals, why don't you do the sensible thing and SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP until we know what is going to happen in the next few weeks, ok? Then, after things begin to settle down and we know what we'll be dealing with, you can tell us what your polices will be and we'll tell what our policies will be, OK? Anything else, as this stage, is an exercise in futility. I thought you guys were supposed to be the smart ones?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
I see it as just more "Make
Submitted by amyshulk on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 10:09pm.
I see it as just more "Make it so" from this group. My assessment that they all read The Secret and are applying it doesn't sound so nuts now, huh? ;-P
Ronald Reagan
The political situation in Egypt in in "limbo" so to speak...
Submitted by gruyere cheese on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 10:36pm.
It is difficult to predict if democracy was accomplished in Egypt after all with the protests.
Because of this, the GOP is smart to stay clear and carefully choose talking points about the subject for the liberal media to dissect.
The way I see it, if Egypt does not achieve their dream of becoming a democratic country; Mr. BO and his White House kindergarten staff will have a very hard time explaining their stance during the protests there.
His payrolled media needs to give Mr. BO accolades and credit for a job well done on the crisis in Egypt...this is what they are paid to do at MSNBC.
In the liberal media in their La la land world, Mr. Hosni Mubarak was pressured by non-other than Mr. BO to leave his post as president and allow democracy to take place in Egypt. After all, he is the ONE and can perform miracles, right?
Well,
Submitted by Boudin on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 10:50pm.
I dont think anyone believes this is good for the region.
Same Guy
Submitted by Jerry Mack on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 11:20pm.
Is this the same JS that said on Tingles show that he could not understand why we conservatives don't believe he is one of us. Suggestion for you Joe. Watch a rerun of your own show.
So Genie must be
Submitted by donabernathy on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 11:57pm.
n' da Muslim Brotherhood....
roflmao
Read between the lines
Submitted by stunned on Wed, 02/16/2011 - 1:20am.
She was gang raped in the square during the "celebration" of Mubarak's resignation. Puts a new spin on the media's over the top, giddy coverage of that night doesn't it?. No white woman should ever travel alone in the middle east. That society has NO respect for women. Thank God a group of women and soldiers saved her. Kind of funny how the media keeps claiming the overthrowing of Mubarak is a victory for Obama when we have no idea what the heck will happen over there.
tired of liberal lies