Morning Joe Crew: GOP House Vote to Repeal ObamaCare Is a Meaningless 'Waste of Time'
Monday's "Morning Joe" panel on MSNBC mocked the House Republicans' plan to vote to repeal President Obama's health care legislation in full. "Waste of time" and "meaningless legislative exercise" were some of the phrases used to describe the first announced GOP priority.
"It's going to take them fifteen minutes, they're going to vote to repeal it, and the Senate's not going to do it," explained co-host Joe Scarborough. "It is a meaningless legislative exercise, but you know what? The base will like it."
"Republicans in Washington are planning to waste some time. Is anyone surprised by that?" co-host Mika Brzezinski tersely introduced the segment in the 7 a.m. EDT news hour.
Both Scarborough and Brzezinski sarcastically mocked the plan. "Good for them. Thank you," Brzezinski spat. "You are big men," she derided the House Republicans. "You so tough," Scarborough chimed in, followed by Brzezinski making strange growling noises.
Brzezinski added that even the conservative base won't be proud of this effort. "People are sick of this stuff going on, useless time spent in Washington when we should be moving forward," she echoed the recent theme of MSNBC, "Lean Forward."
Columnist Mike Barnicle ridiculed such plans to repeal ObamaCare and raise the debt ceiling as "meaningless stuff." He contrasted such an absurd view of government with what he dubbed a "real-world" view, which included snow removal, trash collection, and police protection.
However, National Journal correspondent Major Garrett answered to the contrary on the subject of raising the debt ceiling, which he deemed an important issue. "I would say the debt ceiling is going to be very real," he responded, calling it a "huge vote."
A transcript of the segments, which aired on January 3 at 6:13 a.m. and 7:10 a.m. EDT respectively, is as follows:
MIKA BRZEZINSKI: Alright, so they want to do this before the State of the Union, they want to at least bring it up for a vote in the House, I mean, they're not going to have the votes in the Senate. Is it a waste of time? What is going on?
JOE SCARBOROUGH: You know, to quote Sheryl Crow, if it makes you happy, it can't be that bad, because it's – (Crosstalk) – it's going to take them fifteen minutes, they're going to vote to repeal it, and the Senate's not going to do it.
BRZEZINSKI: Good for them. Thank you.
SCARBOROUGH: Yay, maybe they can throw some confetti.
BRZEZINSKI: You are big men.
(Laughter)
SCARBOROUGH: You so tough.
BRZEZINSKI: Oooooh, arrrrrgh.
SCARBOROUGH: But seriously, it is a meaningless legislative exercise, but you know what? But the base will like it.
BRZEZINSKI: No. Actually people are sick of this stuff going on, useless time spent in Washington when we should be moving forward.
SCARBOROUGH: It's like the cap-and-trade bill the Democrats passed, they knew it was never going to get through the Senate. They passed it anyway, so they could go back to their base saying "We're fighting for you!"
MSNBC MORNING JOE 1/3/11 7:10 a.m.-7:16 a.m. EDT
BRZEZINSKI: Alright, Republicans in Washington are planning to waste some time. Is anyone surprised by that?
SCARBOROUGH: C'mon.
JON MEACHAM, PBS "Need to Know" co-host: Is that the AP headline?
BRZEZINSKI: They're going to vote – they plan to vote on repealing the White House's health care legislation shortly after Congress returns this week. Leading the charge: Fred Upton, the incoming chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee who says he thinks the House is near the majority needed to override a veto.
(...)
SCARBOROUGH: Major Garrett, obviously they will never get this through the Senate, even if it passes the House. Why are they doing it?
(...)
BARNICLE: You know what's interesting, listening to the conversation of the last five minutes – the two different views of government now colliding. One the real-world view of government, snow removal, trash collection, police protection. The other view of government, the meaningless view of government in most people's minds our of Washington – are we going to raise the debt ceiling? Are we going to, you know, vote to --
BRZEZINSKI: Repeal ObamaCare –
BARNICLE: Repeal ObamaCare. Meaningless stuff. Meaningless stuff verses real stuff.
MAJOR GARRETT, National Journal correspondent: I would say the debt ceiling is going to be very real.
BRZEZINSKI: In a couple of months.
GARRETT: That's a huge vote. And that's altogether real.
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Comments
Their just beside themselves
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 8:42pm.
Their just beside themselves with contempt simply because they gambled on putting all their eggs in one basket ( Obama ) and now their miserable little world is coming to an end.
If you listen closely to their morning zoo regulars banter back & forth, you'll realize, when they forget the talking points and go off script, they now have almost as much contempt for Obama and the dems as they do conservatives and the American people.......it's comical to watch them walk it back once they catch themselves......or Mika cuts them off mid sentence.
Barack_Must_Go.....
No, watching Morning Jerk is a waste of time
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 8:46pm.
Voting to repeal ObamaCare may be purely symbolic, but at least it lets the Comrade Chairman know they are serious about putting an end to this farce of a law, along with most everything else this fraud has done over the last two years which, if left unmolested and fully funded, will push this nation over the cliff in very short order.
And perhaps more importantly, it lets us know they are serious, as well.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Are they serious?
Submitted by jaydeee007 on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 4:06am.
In 1995 I knew that the Republicans voted in in 1994 were NOT serious when they faild to defund NEA.
National Endowment for the Arts was an unimportant expendeture if Federal Funds. And they couldn't cut it off.
The real test will come when it's time to Defund NPR/PBS. Will they be albe to cut off the funds?
If they are serious they will.
A second show of how serious Republicans were came when they showed their 'Phony' resolve regarding ANWR. They had no trouble passing legislation to open ANWR to drilling when they knew Clinton would veto it. So they did and he did.
But when they had Bush who would have signed the legislation? Nada!
They need to Get Serious and Be Serious when it counts. Because it all counts now.
jaydee,
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 5:30pm.
We'll know soon enough just how serious they are.
Or aren't.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Idiots
Submitted by KC Mulville on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 9:23pm.
Trying to portray the FEDERAL government as doing snow removal and trash collection, as if that was the job of the FEDERAL government, and then acting as if they were disgusted at OTHER people's stupidity ... I'm sorry, it's time to remove the microphone.
They can keep talking, as is their right as Americans, but they can't force anyone else to listen. What a group of idiots ...
What if nobody posted this?
Submitted by Big Wally on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 9:26pm.
Would anybody know or care what they said?
Joe the Retard...
Submitted by adamsmith on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 8:27am.
Man, Joe the Retard has more articles here than anyone. Matter of fact a couple more and we need to rename this site JoetheRetardBusters.com.......I guess it's a matter of "so much idiocy, so little page space"....And no, if Joe the Retard wasn't featured here, I wouldn't know what stupidity he'd be spouting. I never listen to what retards say, never mind what they say on air.....
Adam, think of it as a dirty
Submitted by Hunter12 on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 12:40pm.
Adam, think of it as a dirty job that someone has to do. Know your enemy, and with all the disinformation and outright lies that MSNBC (substitute CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC) tells, it is important to know. We can get Maddow, Olbermann, Schultz, Couric, et al, condensed down to a tolerable level here and we don't have to tune in ourselves. In flu season, when you can be a little queasy, it's a good thing.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
grrrr right back atcha
Submitted by MidAmerica on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 9:26pm.
It'll be far from a waste of time. It will define who the conservatives are and whether they have backbone and are willing to make a stand for all to see. In the senate it will be fun to see how many democrats are willing to follow their leader or follow the wishes of the people and save their careers in 2012.
Agreed
Submitted by KC Mulville on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 9:39pm.
The Constitution is the agreement by which Congress has any authority at all. It is the "warrant" that defines what Congress may or may not do, and without that agreement, the Congress doesn't have enough authority to rename a library.
The previous Congress acted as if they had authority independent of the people, and they were empowered to act (and spend) without restraint. The purpose of reading the Constitution is to assure the people that Congress will once again honor that agreement.
Look, if the Democrats can celebrate the passing of their healthcare bill by strutting through the streets of the Capitol, I find it odd that they object to reading the text of the Constitution as a way to symbolically start off this new session.
You know what is a waste of time
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 9:32pm.
Morning Joe, not a coherent thought between them
Yeah, Joe
Submitted by optimist on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 9:32pm.
Getting politicians on record as listening to the American people or giving them the middle finger again is a waste of time. He gets paid for this crap?
I thought the Republicans
Submitted by yutsnark on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 9:01am.
I thought the Republicans were already on record as opposed to the health care legislation. Some have taken provisions of it to court. They've made their point.
No the point is to repeal the
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 9:30am.
No the point is to repeal the law. Hammer away until it is, no quarter and keep the public informed. Stop Obama at all costs. Freedom will be lost if we do not. Obama is showing and has shown that he and teh congress has no consideration for the Constitution and the people. Take no prisoners.
Okay. And replace it with
Submitted by yutsnark on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 12:56pm.
Okay. And replace it with what?
Replace it...
Submitted by retrocon on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 1:49pm.
with tort reform limiting frivilous awards.
opening insurance to interstate commerce by superceding state laws that make it difficult/impossible to sell in many states, and eliminate state "forced mandates," leave it to the consumers.
Continue the mandates to insure preexisting conditions, but only in prescribed situations -- not all situtions, just things like job changes or insurance changes... but NOT when someone avoids insurance, gets sick, and says "wow, know i want some of that insurance stuff."
legislate the removal of fraud from medicare/caid (since the "O" won't just enforce it away).
stop covering illegals in this country for anything, including emergencies. If they are here, they take their chances, IMHO.
just stuff like that...
And that's what most people
Submitted by yutsnark on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 2:33pm.
And that's what most people want?
Yea, I remember the morning
Submitted by Reaver on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 9:33pm.
Yea, I remember the morning joke crew getting really upset about the fifty some nonbinding resolutions the house democrats passed against the war in Iraq.
Wait… never mind.
The irony
Submitted by doug1950 on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 9:43pm.
of this band of network nitwits chiding others about "wasting time" is astonishing. I wonder if they ever watch their own shows on tape. Morning JOE is a collasal waste of time, money and airtime. Joe had his time in the floodlights and now he seems a little petty and jealous if not sophomoric busting the efforts of freshmen congressmen trying to do what the People want them to do. If this were the ONLY thing that was being done to undo the ObamaCare laws they might have an ounce of credibility but they also plan to dismantle it piece by piece, defund it and also fight it in the courts all the way to the SC if necessary. I hope Joe reads this because he is such a huge disappointment to the folks back home in Pensacola. His true colors show through and I doubt Joe could get elected to street sweeper anymore.
doug...re Morning Joe
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 10:18pm.
So what show would you rather watch during that time slot? The blatant--bordering on cartoonish--bias of Fox & Friends renders it virtually unwatchable. Would you prefer the liberal-oriented fluff of the network morning shows? At least Scarborough provides a modicum of balance. Hardly a day passes that he isn't hammering Democrats--generally over their promiscuous spending habits.
Jer
what would I rather watch during that time slot?
Submitted by neutron on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 1:53am.
Honestly, I get up and make a pot of pu-erh tea (better for me than coffee) and I read Drudge while it steeps. I pour the first cup and dig into the NewsBusters that came in since I went to bed. I pour another cup while working through HotAir. I pour the rest into a travel mug and then drive to work, where I earn a living for my family and the governments (federal, state, county, and city) that take income and other taxes from me. I don't need Morning Joe, since NewsBusters tells me if anything important happened over there. Usually it passes without attention.neutron...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 2:26am.
I like your taste in beverages-- I drink either green tea or acai juice daily and also take a green tea/acai extract tablet nightly--but your taste in information consumption is questionable. Personally, I prefer a bit more ideological diversity in my news/commentary/opinion sources. That's why Morning Joe is on my menu. In the vast majority of cases NB only picks out the instances where Joe has criticized a conservative or praised a Democrat and ignores the numerous occasions where he is slamming libs. A few weeks ago Scarborough launched into a five-minute blistering tirade against the lefty/progressives who were criticizing the CIA's interrogation tactics, after which he made a very brief negative comment about a Republican. As usual, NewsBusters omitted any and all reference to the tirade against the libs, but made the quip about the Republican the subject of yet another anti-Scarborough blog. It's little wonder you and others here believe he's become nothing more than a liberal flack.
Jer
jer
Submitted by amyshulk on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 6:25am.
You know I watch, and have for what - 2 years?
Anyway, the point is to show when they are obviously/grossly biased, not the rare instance where Joe acts/sounds like a conservative. Heck, even O can SOUND like a conservative - it's ACTIONS that matter!!!
Ronald Reagan
When he sounds like a
Submitted by yutsnark on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 9:21am.
When he sounds like a conservative, he's not being biased?
who?
Submitted by amyshulk on Wed, 01/05/2011 - 6:03am.
Joe or O???
Joe is a STATED conservative - you {I} expect him to have that bias - when a "unbiased journolist" is, that's where the problem lies.
O is just out to save 2012
Ronald Reagan
amy...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 01/05/2011 - 6:48am.
I don't doubt that you watch Morning Joe--perhaps even more than I. But I also believe you are seriously understating the frequency with which he "acts/sounds like a conservative". There is rarely a morning when I tune in [roughly three times a week] that Scarborough doesn't sound precisely and emphatically like a conservative, at least at some point in the show.
That said, he admits that his strident partisanship of the 90's has been considerably moderated. He is not shy about criticizing members of his own party or praising Democrats. But he insists his core conservative principles remain the same as two decades ago when he characterized himself as a Reagan Republican [and still identifies himself as one]. And I have seen and continue to see plenty of evidence of that fact. But, it's simply not reported by NewsBusters for reasons which I believe are rooted in a desire to portray MSNBC as a network with virtually no conservative input. Consequently, every single instance of Joe making a complimentary remark about Obama or Joe Biden or some other Democrat is inevitably and eagerly blogged about, while the tirades against the left and liberal spending and taxing and big government policies, his skewering of progressives on national security issues, his effusive praise of Chris Christie and scores of other Republicans, and countless additional examples of his conservative bona fides are all largely ignored because doing otherwise would undercut the narrative being advanced.
Jer
I hear ya Jer
Submitted by amyshulk on Wed, 01/05/2011 - 8:38am.
It's true, Joe will show it - it's just that the times he should, he goes along to get along or something, and that's when NB posts.
Most of the time, it's gratifying to hear him speak to what I believe, but I guess him being on the inside has made him so cynical he tears down the R's far more than the D's
The others on the show are usually left or far left, and what they say - that Joe goes along with - is what makes it worthy of a thread.
I know people are fallible, and that Joe is usually the lone voice of reason, but around TRUE conservatives, he'd be challenged to hold his own.
That said - did you catch him yesterday going after public service unions? music to my ears!!! If it's on MJ, maybe they will finally end this crap!!!
Ronald Reagan
Not that part, amy...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 01/05/2011 - 9:13am.
I just caught the first segments of yesterday's show--regarding spending, taxes, and the national debt--and Joe sounded like he could have been delivering the keynote address at the next CPAC convention. [Praising Jim Demint for demanding spending reduction proposals before agreeing to increasing the debt ceiling...endorsing Cuomo's statement about not raising taxes on anybody, including the very wealthy, and concentrating on curbing spending...explaining how small businesses which are grossing high revenues are benefitting the employees making $40-50 thousand and how hiking taxes on those businesses would be disastrous, etc.]
But NONE of that gets reported here, and so we have posters saying "hey, I don't need to watch that show. NB tells me all I need to know about MorningSchmo and it's obvious he's a lefty."
NewsBusters does a lot of good work exposing real liberal bias, but the ideological hit job they are performing on Scarborough is irresponsible.
Jer
OK
Submitted by amyshulk on Wed, 01/05/2011 - 9:23am.
Do you watch Bret Baier? Or Kudlow? Cavuto? The difference is striking - but then again, MJ sounds perfectly reasonable against the rest of MSNBC's line up!
Ronald Reagan
Jer, didja notice "time slot" ?
Submitted by neutron on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 11:39am.
Jer posted: "...your taste in information consumption is questionable. Personally, I prefer a bit more ideological diversity in my news/commentary/opinion sources..."
Jer, did you notice the question was "what else would you watch IN THAT TIME SLOT" ? It is presumptive of you to assume that my morining routine is the sole extent of my media intake. It's just what I do in the morning instead of Morning Joe. Whjen I get home from work I read very broadly, including Daily Kos and Alan Colmes.
In that case, neutron...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 12:52pm.
I apologize for the misunderstanding.
Jer
YOUR FORGOT THE 'K'
Submitted by BBallleaper on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 7:35am.
Glad you and Scumborough's mom are watching.
Congratulations, BBallleaper...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 12:59pm.
That cheap and very unclever insult was deployed about a dozen times in past years before the admins warned the few who stooped to your level. They wisely heeded the "advice".. I hope you will too.
Jer
No, Joe, we want it on the record!
Submitted by neutron on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 10:04pm.
No, Joe, a vote to repeal Obamacare is NOT a "Waste of time" ! It's a basic political stategy. The majority of the voting public is against Obamacare, so, for the 2012, the Republicans want to get it on the record:
Step 1: Pass an Obamacare repeal in the House.
Outcome A: Senate does not pass it. The Senators who voted against it will be targeted in the primary and / or the general election. Republicans will use Democrat opposition of the will of the people against them and against Obama in 2012.
Outcome B: The Senate passes a comparable repeal of Obamacare that is reconciled and sent up.
Obvious Result: Obama vetos it. Republicans will use his overruling of the will of the people against him in 2012.
Plan B Outcome 1: The Democrat Senators that refuse to join in an override of Obama's veto will be marked for defeat in the next general election.
Plan B Outcome 2: Democrat Senators join with Republican Senators to override Obama's veto.
I'm a voter with NO party affiliation, and I can follow the game theory plays. I guess Old Joe didn't learn any game plays when he was in Congress or since joining the LameStream Media. Or maybe he knows the reality, but owes his soul to the ones to whom he sold out.
An excellent assessment, neutron
Submitted by Galvanic on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 2:23pm.
Since the health care reform bill passed the House by only 7 votes, and the voters have since expressed their dismay in the November elections, the Democratic Party genuinely fears that moderate Dem Representatives will vote to repeal, making the Left and Obama look stupid and isolated.
Let the Senate refuse to bring up repeal -- it will burn them in 2012.
Let Obama veto the repeal of his crowning achievement -- he will look petty and out of touch.
And if some Republicans vote against repea, let them face their constituents and possible Tea Party challenges in 2012.
The GOP has everything to gain politically by this.
Nothing finer than Lib media hacks enraged
Submitted by ChrisNH on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 10:10pm.
I absolutely LOVE seeing Lib media hacks in an enraged, rabid state. It's proof that things aren't going their way. They madder they get, the more I like it.
Great point, ChrisNH!
Submitted by Van Halen on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 1:00am.
Great point, ChrisNH!
The public does want some
Submitted by MidAmerica on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 10:16pm.
The public does want some healthcare reform.
The Republicans need to pick out some of these issues and craft a bill that satifies the will of the people and is constitutional and affordable.
Even if a new bill merely copies something in obamacare it will do two things 1. It will force congressmen and senators to vote for or against something the public wants and 2. It will make repeal of obamacare easier because the popular items will already be preserved.
They are Scared to Death
Submitted by Fire Fighter CO on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 10:27pm.
They know that the vote will keep this issue in the highlight and force the progressives hand. Why else are the trying so hard to sell it as a waste of time. The progressives passed this nightmare of a bill so they need to have their feet held to the fire.
"It's not that our liberal friends are ignorant, it's that they know so much that isn't so". ~ Ronald Reagan
It's quite amazing...
Submitted by gvik on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 10:31pm.
...how easily this was pushed down our throats, yet just how big of a pain in the backside it will be to get rid of. Gotta love those dems...
Me thinks they doth sneer too much.
Submitted by Chris Norman on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 10:42pm.
Me thinks they doth sneer too much. This really bothers them.
this is the very core of the tea party movement.
Submitted by puredmashie on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 10:44pm.
a national movement spawned a great swell of emotion that said: "enough is enough."
the liberal media spews lies and tries to spin a message that this new health care law is such a wonderful and caring thing that no American with a heart could possibly oppose it. but the fact remains that more than 60% of the public rejects it for what it is.
this new 111th congress was given a mandate: REPEAL OBAMACARE
we expect nothing less.
I recognize that most people
Submitted by yutsnark on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 11:47am.
I recognize that most people don't want "Obamacare." But what do they want instead? Have you seen any polls that compare Obamacare to other kinds of healthcare reform? Or to no healthcare reform?
You don't get it
Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 11:59am.
It's not "what do they want instead," it's that ObamaCare itself is trying to exert control over more than just health care over their lives. They don't want THAT.
They don't want to be told what they can or can't do in the same fashion of a zoo animal and that's what this BS legislation does.
-Jon
Yeah, I get the part about
Submitted by yutsnark on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 1:00pm.
Yeah, I get the part about what they don't want. But when they're polled, what alternatives are they offered, and which ones are the most popular? Are they given a choice between "Obama Care" and "Nothing"?
If the point is to give people what they want, why not find out what they want?
Joe doesn't remember the history he participated in
Submitted by TheHistorian on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 11:07pm.
Joe, maybe you can answer a question for me. What was the Congress YOU served in told about welfare reform? That it was impossible. That Clinton would veto it. You passed it anyhow, and kept passing it, and guess what? It HAPPENED! Weren't you part of that Congress, Joe? Or maybe you were one of the naysayers, saying it couldn't be passed?
I am tired of the cognoscenti (and I use that term disparagingly on ignorant people like you and Mika, Joe) that don't remember history, that are instead going to use their bully pulpit to try to dissuade this. I am tired of people like you, Steve Israel, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, and the rest of the Obamalovers out there trying to seed hoplessness. Israel thinks 2012 will be "buyers remorse". He doesn't recognize that is what November 2, 2010 was, and that it will happen again unless the Republicans get this budget under control?
I expect this House to pass a $0 budget for Health Care (I would do it for DHHS until the Secretary came down to Congress to agree with what the Department would NOT try to fund through the back door) as well as a weekly bill to repeal this sucker. I would keep going, not doing ANY business other than a monthly CR, until both the Senate and the President gave in. I would do the same thing on the EPA Budget until Lisa Jackson got down off her high horse and understood that she does not have the authority to regulate carbon.
The Republicans tried to negotiate and you shut them out. "Elections have consequences" is what we heard from the President. Well, guess what, yes, this one did. And the consequence is that your binge of spending like the President of Zimbabwe is over. The bill is here. And it is time to be paid.
Dennis Prager
Inasmuch as Clinton had
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 11:13pm.
Inasmuch as Clinton had explicitly campaigned on welfare reform, it was highly unlikely he would veto the legislation, even if he weren't enitirely satisfied with every provision of the bill.
Jer
Jer, Democrats lie when the
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 12:12am.
Jer, Democrats lie when the truth will do. President Clinton was a mater at the con job, the consummate lawyer. Depends on what the meaning of is, is. So don't ascribe some higher goal for him.
OK
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 12:43am.
Jer
And Obama campaigned spending control. He vetoed it Jer
Submitted by TheHistorian on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 8:14am.
Go read your history, Jer. http://rpc.senate.gov/releases/1999/wf080599.htm Google can be obtained so that even you can run it.
Dennis Prager
Thanks for the link, Historian...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 10:56pm.
But it doesn't open. For the record, however, exactly what does it have to do with your counterfactual suggestion Clinton would veto welfare reform, which was, after all, the subject of my previous response.
BTW...have you considered a name change? Or are you going for irony.
Jer
Scarborough Scarborough Scarborough
Submitted by Texndoc on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 11:13pm.
Every other thread. After a failed "How To" book that was MUST reading for Republicans and sold 4 copies to Mark Levin's one million, and losing his radio show, and his teetering morning ratings - he sure gets attention for being as pompous an ass as Olbermann. I know he or someone on his staff reads this site because I saw on his show once pre-election when I watched him say something in response to what was directly said in the comments of a story on him here.
I can assure you that Joke
Submitted by Captain Repus on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 2:07am.
I can assure you that Joke Scarborough, Mika Siliconsky, their entire liberal cement-dweller crew and all of their MSDNC colleagues, Shortbus Eddie, Manlove Matthews, Bathtubboy, Mr. Maddow and Lawrence of Stupidia ALL read posts on this blog. Their ego's are such that they cannot resist seeing their names being mentioned, even in ridicule.
Actually Joe, your show is a "waste of time"...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 11:41pm.
A fact that the vast majority of those who watch morning tv know only too well.
Yutz.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
seems like the DREAM act redux
Submitted by Wineguy13 on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 12:07am.
Wasn't that the point of Reid bringing that vote up? It didn't have a chance, but the illegal union voters needed to get paid.
If it is just symbolic, at least it gets people on the record.
Reid had to repay the
Submitted by Hunter12 on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 12:48pm.
Reid had to repay the Mexicans who voted him back in. That's why 4 versions of the DREAM Act were proposed.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
Just more hot air
Submitted by Humblepie on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 12:15am.
This is just more hot air from the blowhard channel which panders to the left. At least we will find out just who has the b*lls to stand up for what is right. It's time stand up and be counted.
Bring the matter for a vote
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 12:16am.
Bring the matter for a vote on a weekly basis until it passes. The GOP that was not thrown out and all Democrats will do well to listen to we the people. Do not pass a damned thing until Obamacare is repealed lock, stock and barrel without any weaselly language in there. A simple paragraph that says all provisions of the law are null and void. This will get rid of all the earmarks also.
So hard to take serious...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 12:19am.
...a bunch of clowns doing a talk show in their jammies...
Liberals (who say nothing
Submitted by Van Halen on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 12:57am.
Liberals (who say nothing while their president golfs, vacations, plays hoops and holds rock concerts at the White House) keep telling us what a waste of time this vote would be.
Again.
And again.
And again.
I wonder what they're worried about?
Jer, you are so wrong
Submitted by sms5217 on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 1:14am.
Sure, Fox and Friends is no masterpiece theater, or a TV version of Scientific American. However, the center-right milquetoast conservatism of the show is so far removed from the garish theater of leftist vulgarity that is MSNBC and Morning Joe.
Joe long ago sold his conservative soul for a lousy buck on MSNBC. Every blue moon he will chastise a liberal, but any sane person can see who is paying his meal ticket. His turncoat antics, the Zbigniew idiot spawn, and a whole host of leftist losers, nutjobs, and NY liberal goons make this one of the most biased shows on the network.....however, given MSNBC's rabid liberalism.......it is the networks's most "center" show.
Sorry, your jab at Kilmeade and friends on Fox morning is nothing more than projection....
Oooooh.....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 12:41pm.
GOOD one!
If it is a waste of time as
Submitted by robert108 on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 1:31am.
If it is a waste of time as they say, why are they squawking about it? RINOs like Joe are through.
Boo hoo. Obama has turned
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 1:32am.
Boo hoo. Obama has turned out to be a miserable failure and the democrats are not even completely over their elation with the inauguration yet. They back-stabbed Hillary for this yahoo? Oh, and now they want to attack the Republican's for "playing politics". It isn't "playing politics," it is halting Obama's socialist agenda which begins with Obamacare.
I would only say.....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 12:50pm.
...that he started out as a failure and has worked his way into being a miserable failure.
Does anyone else have the sinking feeling
Submitted by NevadanConservative on Wed, 01/05/2011 - 2:08am.
that Rodham is, by the statists' twisted logic, the Sunday punch?
I've stated before in this website that NONE of this BHO bilge is a manner of incompetence or miscalculation, but a steady, laid-on foray to shove this country into dictatorship and destruction. Rodham's purpose is to take it to conclusion, with many folk reasoning(?!) that she's a better go of it than more BHO.
The next two years will be the Thermopylae for freedom in this hemisphere. The GOP is the Spartans, BHO etc Xerxes and the Persians. Graham, the Maine Twins, McCain, and any other RINO are our Ephialtes.
And in so saying, I will probably have made their $#!+ list.
So be it.
NVCon
NVCon...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 01/05/2011 - 2:23am.
So there you are. Would it be possible for yo to take a short break from your defense of Western Civilization--the remaining 299 can cover for you--and assist me in the following matter?
#89 NevCon: Help me out, please...Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 11:24pm.
Joe sided with the Congressional Republicans who opposed the tax deal and generally embraced the Tea Party position [i.e. also opposition because of additional spending' with respect to the compromise bill.] So, I'll defer to your expertise. Was this a RINO stance or a conservative stance which Scarborough took?
Read more: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/matt-hadro/2011/01/04/morning-joe-panel-plays-class-warfare-card-warns-wealthy-listen-envious-#comment-1407698#ixzz1A8gGJKwD
Thanks,
Jer
edit. Never mind. I notice you have already responded. Much obliged.
Noted,
Submitted by NevadanConservative on Wed, 01/05/2011 - 3:14am.
Try 70 million, provided BHO and company don't try and cancel the 2012 elections.
And while you are trying to make light of it, I am in agreement in toto with that last part of Reagen's "Rendezvous with Destiny".
A two term BHO or BHO and Rodham will pretty much finish off the last of the American experiment in constutuional republicanism. The two hundred-plus years of light in the darkness of history will be extinguished, with nothing to take its place but statist boots stamping in the faces of humanity...forever.
NVCon
Relax NVCon...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 01/05/2011 - 3:55am.
You may recall that over the past couple of years more than a few at this website had predicted Obama would cancel the 2010 elections as part of a dark totalitarian plot which included a suspension of the Constitution, deployment of his private army to round up and incarcerate in concentration camps situated in various western locales hundreds of thousands of conservative "enemies of the state", culminating in the imposition of a permanent autocratic tyranny. As you may have guessed, I was always a bit skeptical...
just as I am of the potentiality of your winding up on a $%&* list due to your stirring anti-statist musings in a previous post, if for no other reason than--as you reminded me on another thread--your present status as a non-member of a legislative body renders what you say absolutely meaningless.
Jer
DEJA VU
Submitted by amyshulk on Wed, 01/05/2011 - 5:56am.
Isn't that what the left said for 8 years about Bush Jer?
Ronald Reagan
You may recall that over the
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Wed, 01/05/2011 - 8:17am.
You may recall that over the past couple of years more than a few at this website had predicted Obama would cancel the 2010 elections as part of a dark totalitarian plot which included a suspension of the Constitution, deployment of his private army to round up and incarcerate in concentration camps situated in various western locales hundreds of thousands of conservative "enemies of the state", culminating in the imposition of a permanent autocratic tyranny.Another product of your fertile imagination? Link it Jer. And how many is a few? Is that like the definition of is?
Sorry Dan, just as I can no
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 01/05/2011 - 3:17pm.
Sorry Dan, just as I can no longer link your prayer for Obama's death before taking office, those comments* are long gone--probably much to the relief of the NB staff as well as the individuals who posted them.
Jer
*There were several references to cancelling the 2010 elections, suspending the Constitution, and autocratic rule, but I'll concede the concentration camp deal was mostly just Michele Bachmann. ;-)
Touche'
Submitted by NevadanConservative on Wed, 01/05/2011 - 2:37pm.
That same reason falls equally on you, and for the same circumstances.
I should have repaired my statement with the additional phrase "in the process of legislation", but, alas, one cannot unring the bell. Unlike yourself (in large part) and your comrades, I will admit to fallibility and error.
As to the past couple of years, your hac- err investigation of my account will disclose that I have been here slightly over one year. That others might have considered the possibility of deleted elections is no surprise given how the statists have mucked around.
When, at my workplace, rumor of a quarterly bonus circulates, I tell everyone that asks if I have heard of it, "Yes, and I'll believe it, not when I get the check, but when I'm spending it."
Horridly cynical.
I will be treating my franchise as I always have, with great reverence,but additionally with the above noted cynicism as to its durability, as long as such as BHO are in OUR White House.
Tell ya what. If both houses pass an omnibus status quo ante 2009 repeal and BHO signs it, I'll be less cynical.
NVCon
NVCon...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 01/05/2011 - 3:12pm.
Yeah, I realized I was leaving myself open for that little reminder. Hoped it might slide by you. So, ditto on the "touche".
And, I don't see much hope for any abatement of your cynicism. But, what the hell, that's what makes it interesting around here.
Jer
Any effort to get rid of
Submitted by rbosque on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 3:42am.
Any effort to get rid of freedom robbing Communism is NEVER a waste of time!
Hey, "No Labels"
Submitted by TCinAZ on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 4:47am.
Hey, "No Labels" Guy...
Why don't you put a cork in it, and stop Worrying about those Radical, Racist, Tea Party and House Republican members of ours, and their plans to repeal Obamacare?
Oh, and btw Joe, one sheet evidently makes Sheryl Crow happy, so it can't That bad. Right?
Talk about Great Healthcare! lol.
If Mika wore a 30A No One would watch this Vomit!
Submitted by BBallleaper on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 7:37am.
Just sayin'!
I think the vote would depend
Submitted by johnsonl on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 8:02am.
I think the vote would depend on how many dems are up for reelection in the senate next year.
Morning Joe is the waste of time...
Submitted by notinstl on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 10:45am.
Between Joe's smugness, Mika making her stupid faces (I suppose that is better than any comments she might make, like this morning's: "what's so wrong with social justice?"), Donnie Deutsch (is this d-bag right about anything?)...this train wreck is the best MSNBC can serve up....
Of course, there's always crazy larry o'donnell and his only guest, wasserman-schultz from FLA...what a bee-yatch
The world we're heading for -
Submitted by Semus on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 11:08am.
The world we're heading for - I don't care if it's tomorrow, a year or 100 years from now, if things like Obamacare are allowed to stand - will be a dark frightening place where freedom is too expensive and in all likelyhood most of the people in it - will resemble the fictitious Eloy characters from "The Time Machine". I think it's very likely this will happen, if we don't wake up. The Morning Joe's hosts ignorance - if that's what it is - is inexcusable.
More people should read George Orwell, and H. G. Wells, and not watch "Morning Joe"
Taking another vote...
Submitted by GG_NB on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 11:58am.
is a smart thing to do. Republicans are doing what they were asked to do in the November elections. It's also wise to get a new, post-election count and to pin representatives down.
Democrats who are now well aware that their constituents were not happy with their vote last time and are up for re-election in 2012 will be on record. In addition to seeing if any "yes" votes now favor repeal, there is another group to look at carefully -- Democrats who voted "no" on the bill the first go-around who may vote against repeal. If any in this group vote "no" for repeal after voting "no" on the bill, it seems reasonable to believe that this group of Dems either: 1) will now cast a purely political vote, abandoning their original concerns for the sake of party, which is telling (i.e., Daniel Lipinski (D-ILL) -- who comes from a largely Catholic district and voted "no" on the bill because of concerns on taxpayer-funded abortion and now indicates he will vote against repeal or 2) were Dems given cover by Pelosi in the original vote because they didn't want to anger a constituent base that was against it. So voters will have another chance to see if their reps are listening to them -- or if it's just politics as usual.
There also needs to be discussion on the specifics in this bill. Americans need to be informed on it, having never been given a chance to do so. It's equally important for momentum to kick this thing (all the way to the Supreme Court) and also to inform people on why Republicans will try to de-fund it. All of these things highlight what Obama pushed through against the will of the majority: a screwy mess. In a variety of ways, it helps set the stage for 2012.
And gee, you'd think that Democrats would think this is a good use of time -- after all, isn't it a wonderful chance to inspect the bill and see how "great" it is? Isn't it a good use of time to reassure the majority of Americans who oppose Obamacare just how beneficial it really is and reaffirm how wisely, thoughtfully and fairly it was passed? Isn't that important to you -- hmmmmm, Democrats?
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
The Democrats have already
Submitted by Hunter12 on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 1:11pm.
The Democrats have already made up their campaign commercials for 2012 after those staged votes to split out the tax cuts for those making more than $250,000 from the rest of the cuts and for the unemplyment extensions: "Republicans are just for the rich!". This is similar to the meme they used to force granting housing loans to people who couldn't repay them: "The Republicans don't want you to share in the American dream!". We've seen the destruction that two solid years of Democrat control has done to the country and we know that all the current problems with the economy can be traced directly to Barney and Maxine playing to the something-for-nothing crowd for votes.
In case anyone wants to look at what's inside the healthcare bill, here are one or two links. The Dims don't want it reviewed, because it is their only chance to regain power. Those "Community-Based" groups (think ACORN) we're going to pay to sit in clinics and such are going to registering voters, legal or not.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
Flow chart~
Submitted by GG_NB on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 1:34pm.
Check out the flow chart on Hunter's second link. LOL! Yeah, that should run real smoothly, folks. *_*
I'd love for real journalists to print that out and present it to members of the House or Senate who voted for this thing. Show it and ask:
"Can you explain exactly how this will work? Break it down for me, will you?"
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
What a crew!
Submitted by Herbster on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 2:38pm.
What a crew! The people of Florida should thank the good Lord that Joe Scarborough no longer represents them in Congress. What an arrogant twit.....in love with the sound of his own voice. Mika the Moron? What can you say. She's a dumb as a box of rocks and always has a look of constipation (Not consternation) on her face. Needs more fiber! Says a few words once in a while...but they are meaningless. 'Yes," Uh-huh," "O.K" are not complete sentences. In fairness, she did ask a question today. "What's wrong with social justice?" Way to go Mika! What an intellect. Mike (The plagarist) Barnicle? Perfectly named! Something that sticks to the bottom of a ship. Jon (Don't call me John) Meachem? Another arrogant, self important horse's ass. Donny (The dou---bag) Deutsch? See comments on Jon Meacham. The guy who never says anything? He always looks like he went back through the TSA screening for seconds!..................and they wonder why Fox and Friends in the Morning put their show in the dumper.....I believe that Morning Joe (Joke) doesn't even register in the ratings...................too busy in a race to the bottom.
looking at Joey's ratings....
Submitted by jdripper on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 3:33pm.
The vast majority of America believe watching his show or listening to him is a waste of time.
Jack