Krauthammer And Hayes See Mitch Daniels As Man To Watch For 2012
It's Christmas Eve, so let's treat ourselves to something conservative political junkies enjoy: handicapping the 2012 Republican field.
On the Fox News Special Report this evening, panelists Stephen Hayes and Charles Krauthammer both singled out Mitch Daniels as a man to watch. Hayes identifed the Indiana gov as perhaps the true Tea Party candidate—someone willing to speak the hard truths about the need for entitlement reform. Krauthammer counter-intuitively found Daniels' lack of charisma appealing—as an antidote to our overdose of hope-and-change.
View video after the jump.
Watch Stephen and Charles make the case for Mitch.
Other panel observations:
A.B. Stoddard: "the people who really know how these primaries work and really understand [Palin] better than we might at his table are starting to convince me that she's not going to run."
Juan Williams: "If I was picking the field right now, the person that I would watch is former Governor Mike Huckabee."
Note: no one expressed enthusiasm for Mitt Romney, though Hayes sized up the field as "Mitt Romney and then everybody else."
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The country is yearning for
Submitted by MidAmerica on Fri, 12/24/2010 - 10:22pm.
The country is yearning for a sense of normalcy from the government. We need a government that looks and acts like it will respect and honor this country and it's traditions plus conduct itself with common sense governence.
Thanks, Mid America - you've
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 1:14am.
Thanks, Mid America - you've clarified what I've been thinking about ever since Obama gained traction in the democratic primaries the last go-around. Nothing about the man, his campaign, or presidency has been normal.
Woudn't it be a relief to have a "normal" president and a "normal" administration - professional and competent, without all these screwy events and controversies? No "czars", no "domestic summits", no acceptance speeches in stadiums decked out like the Parthenon? No fascist-looking campaign posters. No weird cabinet secretaries with tax problems or with radical pasts, No radical proposals to overturn established values, systems, or traditions. No "remaking" of huge chunks of the American economy. No hand-wringing over foreign or military policy? It's hard to describe, and I'm probably oversimplifying it - but Obama has been exhausting and weird and I just want NORMAL.
Liberals are not Americans
Submitted by MidAmerica on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 1:29am.
Liberals are not Americans first. They are Citizens of the World. They don't want to see a strong dominant America. They want every country no matter what it's political makeup as an equal of the US. Nukes in Iran, North Korea, and Venezuala? No problem. America as a Superpower? Big problem.
One of my big beefs is that our economy could be going gangbusters right now but our homegrown energy resources are locked up by the government to force us to buy foriegn energy (send our wealth to other countries) and to keep the price of energy high so as to retard our economic productivity, which keeps us from having a standard of living far above what other countries have. We have lost most of our manufacturing to other countries like China as a result of government regulations that make manufacturing here too expensive, again this is to further drain away money from US citizens and spread it to the rest of the world.
The goal of Liberals everywhere is to equalize outcomes, even if some of these countries are corrupt or incompetant.
Jeez.
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 12:10pm.
Jeez. Mid..................you're not asking for MUCH, are you??? Concepts such as 'normalcy', 'respect', 'honor', 'country', 'traditions', 'conduct', and 'common sense' are ALL 'on the outs' these days, as I'm sure you've noticed!!! They are NOT in the lexicon nor the mindset of the libs or the people who are ruining - whoops, I meant RUNNING - our country!!!!
Merry Christmas
Submitted by DemsRFascists on Fri, 12/24/2010 - 10:26pm.
Palin/Barbour '12
Whatever the conservatives
Submitted by MidAmerica on Fri, 12/24/2010 - 10:58pm.
Whatever the conservatives do they must not allow themselves the luxury of splitting among many potential candidates. That only guarantees a non-conservative candidate will win.
John McCain won because the bulk of the primary voters coalesced around him. Voters who are not sure will often pick a candidate based on the candidates perceived chances of winning the primary. That's what's called momentum.
So if we all pick our early favorite and stick with them none of them will win unless they manage to break out of the pack to national recognition and winner status. The only one with that status now is Sarah Palin.
So we have to choose early and then stick with our choice and support them thoroughly.
The Loving Spoonful said it well:
Did you ever have to make up your mind
Pick up on one and leave the other behind
It's not often easy and not often kind
Did you ever have to make up your mind
Did you ever have to finally decide
Say yes to one and let the other one ride
There's so many changes and tears you must hide
Did you ever have to finally decide
But too many times
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Fri, 12/24/2010 - 11:43pm.
As Stephen Stills said, "If you can't be with (vote for) the one you love, love the one you're with (the old white guy whose turn it is)..."
Old White Guys
Submitted by iveseenitall on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 12:07pm.
Look around. Look at history --- then criticize "old white guys" -Scheeze!
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal" (progressive)
I don't need to look at history
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 8:45pm.
Every time I look in the mirror I see an old (and increasingly fat) white guy.
I live in Indiana and
Submitted by jkwtrading on Fri, 12/24/2010 - 11:21pm.
I live in Indiana and wouldn't vote for Daniels to serve as dog catcher.
But Daniels Is a Princeton Man
Submitted by BW222 on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 1:53am.
He's an Ivy Leaguer, which is all that counts to Kraphammer.
Remember to mind your betters (anyone who attended a college whose tuitiuon was more than yours).
Oh look. The anonymous moniker is insulting people's names.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 3:55am.
Might carry more weight if your identity was out in the open. Idiot. It takes nothing for an anonymous idiot to make fun of a person's name or education.
Tell us one man brain trust. What is your name and where were you educated?
Daniels attending Princeton
Submitted by jkwtrading on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 2:03pm.
Daniels attending Princeton fits his demeanor. he acts like at times one who is eastern seaboard type.
Daniels is definetely not the type of conservative I want. He is kind of a goofy little guy. small yet bloated with himself.. sometimes I feel he and Bayh are like brothers, odd half brothers..
It's been 40 years since Indiana had tough single minded conservatives like Charley Halleck.
Merry Christmas
Submitted by grammajane on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 12:50am.
Merry Christmas to all the folks at NewsBusters and to all who comment on the great articles. Hopefully, 2011 will bring America back to our traditions of the greatest country on earth.
Mitch Daniels
Submitted by ChuckNorton1 on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 1:35am.
I am from Indiana and I agree that Gov Daniels is a good budget man, a good manager and a competent campaigner.
However he does have shortcomings that need to be addressed. He does not leave much of a charismatic wake, but part of that problem is in his communications team. The Governor wages no permanent campaign even in a small way. As a result the many good things that happen on his watch are unknown to all but us who pay close attention.
We cannot have another president who will not defend himself and will not advance the conservative banner in the public arena.
So many people I see do not understand why the Indiana time change was a good idea and many do not understand why he "sold the toll road" (as his enemies put it). Large policy decisions and implementations need to be well explained, marketed and defended. I want a president who will get that job done. When I explain it to people I know (a conversation I have often) I always hear the same thing, no one ever explained why the policies were necessary till I explained it to them.
I am not opposed to voting for Daniels, I just want these issues fixed and fixed soon. I am far from alone in that view.
Right you are. I was a
Submitted by MidAmerica on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 1:41am.
Right you are.
I was a strong supporter of GW but it was painful to watch as the troops were decimated on the field of political battle because the commander had left the field.
Bush the younger had the same
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 9:38pm.
Bush the younger had the same philosophy as his dad in dealing with criticism, he let the public decide. In this era it may not be a good thing to do, be gentlemanly and of good demeanor when dealing with you enemies. It is teh same attitude he takes with Obama and criticizing him and his policies.
I still like Palin as she will take no prisoners and kill the survivors.
Palin/Jindal 2012
FNC Isn't Conservative
Submitted by BW222 on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 1:58am.
As you can see from the people on this panel, it's neocons and RINOs with a few liberals thrown in for good measure.
Krathammer, Rove, Hayes, Krystal, Barnes, BORe, Perino, Nicole Wallace, the Huckster - they are all neocons or RINOs.
The only two conservatives are Palin and Hannity and Sean is dumber than a brick.
Insiders
Submitted by iveseenitall on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 12:04pm.
They're all insiders and they know who's filling their bank accounts. Don't expect much, as witnessed by Krauthammer's recent praise of Obama. They'll turn on a dime to make the big green. Best thing to do is to think for yourself and listen to some "real" people ( if you know any).
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal" (progressive)
Who said FOX is conservative?
Submitted by Denny Crane on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 2:02am.
They are Center Right.
Their lineup is 40% conservative, 40% centrist and 20% liberal.
Just like the country.
Why is Sean dumber than a brick? His ratings and his book sales say otherwise.
We Are The 53%
Heavens to Betsy. I love Fox News.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 2:17am.
We have it on 24/7 at The Vet's house. So even when we are sleeping, we can get all the Neoconcrunchygoodness straight into our brains osmosisly.
I love Neo. Thomas A. Anderson is frickin awesome.
George Bush was the GREATEST President evah! Rock on George. Rock on Dick.
I love RINO's. They are nature's firefighters.
Stevie. You misspelled Krauthammer.
Palin/Barbour or Barbour/Palin '12
Submitted by DemsRFascists on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 3:31am.
No, he got it right...
Don't leave Fox on all the time...you'll get WAAAAAAAAAAY too much "liberal" comment pumped into your home....
Vet
Submitted by Denny Crane on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 2:06am.
That was funny!
Did you find Stevie's new sockpuppet? Was it able to get off the number 5?
How come you didn't mention my favorite Fox news personality?
We Are The 53%
Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. You think Mister.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 2:36am.
Rebecca Diamond stole my heart.
And locked it away.
Herman Cain
Submitted by Martin2717 on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 3:34am.
I don't know about you guys, but the person for me to watch is this guy. I like the fact that he's never been a politican. This could be very intriguing to a lot of people. He's soldly conservative and has had a tremendous career in business; ie chairman and CEO of Godfather's Pizza. He's also a terrific speaker as well and he's not afraid to attack Obama and the left. Keep an eye out for this guy. Other than Perry (if he decides not to run), this would be my guy for president.
Did you post this on the same page as BW222?
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 3:50am.
Herman Cain is a frequent guest on Fox News. He must be a nerfcon or a RHINO.
Seriously, I like him too.
Herman Cain good, but...
Submitted by ckc1227 on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 4:28am.
What are the odds America is going to elect another mysterious Black man they know little about right after Obama?
They'll have plenty of time
Submitted by Martin2717 on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 5:28am.
They'll have plenty of time to get to know him. This shouldn't be about the color of your skin. If it is, then this country has a long ways to go.
He is brighter than you.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 7:08am.
Americans tend to like bright people.
Seems like he's brighter than you on this point
Now who is being stupid? That would be you.
Even worse
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 8:49pm.
since he's conservative, as Whoopi would say, he's not "black" black.
I've listened to Mr Cain enough to think I know his stand on most issues important to me. He'd get my vote if he ran and I think he's a great speaker that could convince many others.
Why are we suddenly falling
Submitted by Van Halen on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 8:13am.
Why are we suddenly falling all over ourselves every time Krauthammer speaks? Was this not the man who told us the GOP-picked candidates were superior to the TEA Party candidates? Is this not the man who can't rush to the microphone fast enough to tell us how Obama keeps beating us into the ground? Krauthammer must NOT be allowed to set the tone of candidates for the elections unless you all want another batch of GOP RINOs who will outdo even the Left in their zeal to support Obama.
The man is wicked smart.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 9:37am.
And he was right. The Tea Party candidates he complained about did not win. It went to a Democrat. Even a squishy RINO is better than a Democrat any day.
I don't know about the Obama beating us into the ground thing. He calls 'em like he sees 'em. Sometimes he is wrong. But most of the time, he is wicked smart.
I record the Special Report show every day. I zip through every and go straight to Mr. Krauthammer. Mr. Krauthammer not on Special Report today? Delete.
I think 'the Hammer' is
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 12:18pm.
I think 'the Hammer' is pretty brilliant too, and I love it when he lays some idiot misinformed or uninformed lib commentators to waste..............but he does surprise me sometimes with some of the things he comes up with, and I also think he was a little slow with regards to figuring out who and what Boy Blunder was/is....................
CK not conservative
Submitted by crusain on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 9:29am.
CK has his own agenda and it is not conservative in any meaningful sense. He would prefer Obama to Palin, 'nough said.
Maybe a few quotes would help.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 9:45am.
I would like to see a quote where Mr. Krauthammer thinks a President Obama is better than a President Palin.
And he is a pretty conservative guy. Sorry he has an opinion that people don't like every now and then. The man has a column to put out every week and numerous TV appearances. Sometime, somewhere he will say something someone, somewhere will not like.
Vet, A distressing number
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 10:51am.
Vet,
A distressing number of commenters here would have the party purged of everyone that might say something once or twice they don't want to hear. By the time they were through, the ranks wouuld be thinned down to just themselves. I suspect Ronald Reagan today would be labeled a "RINO" by many here. I've said before that, from over-misuse, "RINO" has just about lost it's meaning - much like the leftists have misused "racist".
I agree. The democrats
Submitted by MidAmerica on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 11:33am.
I agree. The democrats just got booted out of the house because they governed as ideologues. The same thing will happen to the Republicans if they are completely inflexible. Politics is not about always winning every battle. (i.e. ramming through obamacare) What we need is a government that will start the long process of trimming government and moving back to more traditional and conservative principles. But it can't be done overnight. Had Reagan demanded everything he believed in and would accept nothing less he would have been a failed one term President.
I am with Mr. Norman and MidAmerica.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 12:37pm.
I would rather take a squishy RINO or a neocon whatever that means than a Democrat any day. It is a winner take all system. Mr Rove and Mr. Krauthammer called a few races correctly. And for that they were pilloried. Yes. We want conservatives where conservatives win. But in LibbyTown where everyone wants a handout, are people really gonna vote for the guy that says the handouts need to be banished?
Yes. It will take some time but we have the best salesmen for conservatives right now. They are called Democrats. People are slowly waking up to the fact that we just can't pay for it all. And conservatives are out there saying, look, we have the way forward. Unfortunately, it took a Jimmy Carter and a Congress full of Democrats in the 70's for people to be able to listen to a Ronald Reagan. Now we have another Democrat in the White House and 2 years of a Democrat Congress and people are waking up once again.
A lot of us here already know. We know the Republican party has flaws. We are trying to change the one party we can change. Yes, it will take time. And sitting here whining at each other that this guy or that guy is a RINO simply because he praised the President for doing his job for once is just annoying. Or because he said someone can't win in Libbyland, it is annoying to those of us that want smart people saying smart things that will move us forward.
Ronald Reagan gave us 30 years of incredible growth. Let's try listening to smart people that can give us the next Ronald Reagan instead of dismissing them because they happen to make an observation that we don't like.
squishy RINOs
Submitted by jon_torlin on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 2:01pm.
Just one small problem with taking squishy RINOs. They will more oftentimes than not, vote the Democrat agenda. Case in point, Scott Brown and Lisa Murkowski who were recently elected. We already know how Collins is as well as Graham and a couple of others including Mike Castle who was described as the Democrats' Friend or something like that.
Do we want someone who has a good chance of swinging both ways rather than someone who you know will swing one way only? A RINO is a dangerous unknown as we have seen by Brown's and Murkowski's recent votes. Murkowski seems to be voting for the Chairman's agenda as a way of sticking it to the people who voted against her. It's almost as if she's saying "try to get rid of me, will ya? This will teach you!" by her votes.
Thanks but Hell NO thanks, I don't want any RINOs. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know(which way they will go).
-Jon
Well now. Don't I feel stupid.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 2:47pm.
I actually read and listened to what people said here. Whereas you, yeah, it is all about what jonny feels. Look, a contrail. Maybe China just fired off a missle over Lafayette, Indiana. Thank Gawd we don't have to listen to you.
This wasn't personal
Submitted by jon_torlin on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 3:25pm.
Why are you making this personal? I never made anything personal against you.
And apparently I'm not the only one.
-Jon
My bad. I coulda swore you replied to me. So I replied too.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 3:42pm.
Lilttle confused on the personallyness though. I simply remembered your posts. If that is considered personal, So very sorry. Someone should scrub my brain of all the memories so I won't be tempted to make it personal in the future.
I must need a new dictionary. My bad. Sorry for replying to your reply to me.
my statements
Submitted by jon_torlin on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 4:00pm.
I was just simply saying what I thought about RINOs with examples as to why. Not quite on the same level as some libs with the BDS/PDS(Hate Bush/Palin for everything) as an example. Yeah, I have some strong opinions about some things, but I usually have some (hopefully) thought out reasons as to why and it doesn't mean I can't change my mind on some of them. Nor do I try to force them on anyone. As you have pointed out, people can ignore them.
Unlike what's happening with this bogus administration trying to force their idealogues on people whether they like it or not.
-Jon
Whatever.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 4:03pm.
Had nothing to do whatsoever with what I was saying. But do carry on. ...people can ignore them I will do just that. Have a nice contrailly day.
yeah whatever
Submitted by jon_torlin on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 4:15pm.
Yeah, Merry Christmas to you too.
-Jon
Good. We cool then.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 6:05pm.
Just do me a favor and never reply to a post of mine again. It is kinda rude to run off and not reply and then hit me again at a later date and pretend nothing happened.
Even ruder to insult a guy, run off , then come back and pretend like he is starting all the insulting.
Now. Now you can have a Merry Christmas you little snit.
But squishy Rino's
Submitted by Denny Crane on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 2:16am.
Will give you the numbers to be a Majority.
The Majority leader controls what goes on in the Senate.
Does anyone expect a Republican Senator from Mass. to vote down the line R?
We Are The 53%
Maybe we need a definition
Submitted by MidAmerica on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 4:27pm.
Maybe we need a definition of what constitutes a RINO.
I'll try.
There are Liberals, Moderates and Conservatives. Each one is a legitimate position for a person to promote.
But...
A RINO is someone who does not adhere to strongly held core beliefs but instead chooses positions based on personal emotional or status gains. Therefore they are always a wild card (a Maverick) when it comes to counting votes because the issue at hand is not the determining factor in how they will vote. In fact, they will often go against their own Party in order to gain attention and praise from the media and their political opponants.
So I don't yet consider Scott Brown a RINO unless he shows inconsistancy in his voting patterns. He's from a traditional Liberal state and the fact he represents the people who elected him is not a cause for concern. We need to educate him and his state and then their should be a change in his voting record.
In Brown's case
Submitted by jon_torlin on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 4:47pm.
You are correct that he needs to be educated because when he first came on the scene, he said he would vote according to what his state wants or words to that effect(can't remember exact quote). That might have been fine when he was a State Senator, but he's a US Senator now and his votes don't affect just his state, his vote affects the whole country.
Where does the line get drawn in that case?
-Jon
Yes, it's a balancing act.
Submitted by MidAmerica on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 4:59pm.
Yes, it's a balancing act. As you have outlined it, it then becomes a matter of an elected officials skill as a politician. Politics is an art with some science. There are extensive circumstantial elements as to how much room for maneuvering any particular politician has. For instance I doubt that Scot Brown could have the personal defects of a Kennedy and politically survive, especially being a Republican. But... if Scot Brown were to switch parties and marry a Kennedy he could pretty much do as he pleases.
Well, in all honesty the
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 9:54pm.
Well, in all honesty the Senate was to represent the state and its interests. So in fact Brown is being Constitutional.
Your looking at this the wrong way Jon
Submitted by Denny Crane on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 2:22am.
A Senators votes affect the whole country, but a USSenator still represents their constituents, not the whole country.
I expect him to vote in accordance to the People of Mass, or at least the Republican side of it. Not the Republican party of the US.
We Are The 53%
Mid America, I think part
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sun, 12/26/2010 - 12:17am.
Mid America,
I think part of the problem is that, for some, unless you support Tea Party-endorsed candidates, then you can't be considered a true conservative or Republican any longer. I think a big part of the problem is that, except for general principles, the Tea Party agenda is in the eye of whoever is writing the comment. I support the TP general principles, but, for instance, I think Christine O'Donnell was absolutely the wrong candidate for endorsement (not that her more liberal priimary opponent was suitable for their endorsement either), as many analysts predicted, her candidacy was an absolute disaster. Does this mean that I'm not conservative? No, it just means that I didn't like O'Donnell as the standard bearer for conservative principles in this race. Without getting too personal, I found her (and her campaign) kind of weird. My point is, why has conservatism been supplanted by "Tea Party-ism"? I've been a conservative a lot longer than many who are in the Tea Party movement, and I'll be damned if I will accept judgement by some of them. By the way, Sarah Palin, who I like to a point, has only been on the national stage for a two and a half years, yet many now regard total support of her a litmus test for "true conservatives" - something, as far as I know, she doesn't.
Why didn't you like
Submitted by Martin2717 on Sun, 12/26/2010 - 3:16am.
Why didn't you like O'Donnell? What more could she have done? She had six weeks (practically little time) from the primary to the general election to reshape her image after her party completely undermined her. The Delaware GOP and NRSC didn't give her any help at all, not to mention Rove completely tearing her apart the night she won the primary over Castle. He's been plotting against her for almost a year. For this, I've lost complete respect for Rove. Give me the more conservative candidate any day of the week. If the GOP doesn't wake up and get back to their conservative principles, the party will become extinct. I'm looking at it from an outside point of view. It would serve the party well to stay out of primaries too. Let the folks decide who they want as their nominee for the general election and whether the party likes it or not, get behind that candidate once he/she has been chosen.
If you think that the
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sun, 12/26/2010 - 8:01pm.
If you think that the shortness of her campaign was all that did in O'Donell, that, of course, is your privilege. Many others, including myself, saw her as an oddball character, with tax and financial problems and a strange on-camera personality. Bottom line is she was a disaster who lost and lost big. No amount of party effort or money could have saved her from herself. Once again, I am not here to defend my opinion of tea party candidates - I should not have to. I am a strong conservative, but I call them as see them. Some followers of the tea party here are acting like they are part of some kind of a political cult that demands total unquestioning support for whoever they like and I refuse to go along blindly.
Once again, Rove was offering an analysis of O'Donnell's chances in his role as a professional analyst on Fox News. He is no longer part of the Republican party apparatus spinning for the party, He is under no obligation to go on a news show just to offer phony support for someone he obvioulsy felt was fatally flawed. I will take an honest opinion over phony spin anytime.
The People elected her to
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sun, 12/26/2010 - 8:39pm.
The People elected her to represent the GOP so she had the support. I think she was mainly railroaded by bad publicity, not that she wasn't a perfect catch, but railroaded just the same.
If you think that the
Submitted by Martin2717 on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 2:53am.
If you think that the shortness of her campaign was all that did in O'Donell, that, of course, is your privilege. Many others, including myself, saw her as an oddball character, with tax and financial problems and a strange on-camera personality. Bottom line is she was a disaster who lost and lost big. No amount of party effort or money could have saved her from herself. I never said she was perfect. She addressed her tax and financial problems on her website. IMO, I didn't find her all that bad. Delaware is a very blue state. If they want to send clowns like Coons into the senate, fine. Once again, I am not here to defend my opinion of tea party candidates - I should not have to. I am a strong conservative, but I call them as see them. Some followers of the tea party here are acting like they are part of some kind of a political cult that demands total unquestioning support for whoever they like and I refuse to go along blindly. I'm a strong conservative too and I'll always support the more conservative candidate. The Tea Party isn't perfect and they won't win all the time, but right now, they appear to be the only group out there that's having some effect in DC and I hope that continues.Kindly source that pleae.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/26/2010 - 9:03pm.
...Rove completely tearing her apart the night she won the primary over Castle. He's been plotting against her for almost a year.
Kindly source what Rove said that tore her apart. Kindly source the year long plot against her.
This goes way above and beyond what anyone has said concerning the two to date. Source please.
It would serve the party well to stay out of primaries too.
Can we please please please extrapolate on that statement a little more. We really need to here more.
Kindly source what Rove said
Submitted by Martin2717 on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 3:25am.
Kindly source what Rove said that tore her apart.
Kindly source? That's my opinion on what Rove did. Questioning her character and saying she hadn't addressed her financial woes. O'Donnell addressed this on her website.
http://christine2010.com/counters
It doesn't matter now since Delaware, a blue state, decided to go with the bearded marxist, Coons.
Kindly source the year long plot against her. http://freedomist.com/2010/09/14/exclusive-karl-rove-tried-to-cut-deal-f... Can we please please please extrapolate on that statement a little more. We really need to here more.It's an opinion. If it came off as a fact to you, I apologize.
For me, it comes down to leadership
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 2:19pm.
I get the Big Tent allegory, but that goes completely awry without strong leadership. Especially in the Senate where local politics isn't stressed nearly as much as national politics. The ability to hold together on tough issues is set by the leadership and while they did a reasonably good job after the Tea Party took flight, they failed miserably during the lame duck session directly after the Tea Party greatly influenced the election.
I also don't like the overuse of the term RINO since that should be reserved for folks like Arlen Spector, Dick Lugar and the Maine twins. Others are actually moderate and not on every facet of the party platform. But when the big votes come in, when the state of the party matters more than a devotion to occasionally deviate from it, Senate leadership needs to cuff the moderates and take away positions of stature from the RINOs when they don't stay in line.
Mitch McConnell doesn't have that strength.
Who's Turn?
Submitted by iveseenitall on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 12:29pm.
I remember talking to a Washington insider a year before the 2008 election. He told me at that time that the word was out--- it was the Democrat's turn to win. It was all set. Of course, we know what happened. And I'm sure if there's any way for the RINOS to keep Obama in office next time, they'll find it. How about nominating a Daniels ( who?). Remember, the "brilliant" Charlie Krauthammer told them to do it. Almost all our media pundits and pols are so far out of main stream America, they need field glasses to see the truth. It's one big game they're playing--- with average Americans as the football. Scheeze!
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal" (progressive)
Oh look boys and girls. Scare quotes.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 12:45pm.
Charles Krauthammer is wicked smart. I have never seen a single scare quote in one of his columns. Is someone using the word brilliant in some wrong way?
As for your football analogy. Is coming on the field and dissing on the coach a... wait.... wait... wait for it... "brilliant" strategy? Or can we act like we are all on the same team.
Brilliant
Submitted by iveseenitall on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 1:40pm.
"Brilliant" --- one of the most misused words in the media today( along with "genius"). They even use them for Obama. I've known a few brilliant people in my life. But their personal "opinions" quite often lacked common sense and were based on their own lack of experience in the real world. IMO, Ivy League Charlie fits the mold. And I'm not sure he's so good for OUR team ( "Average" Americans). After all, when was the last time an Ivy League team won a national championship ---if they're so "brilliant"? We need to win, not simply prove our "genius" status.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal" (progressive")
Well then.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 12/25/2010 - 2:49pm.
Let's see something brilliant from you. Anytime you are ready. We'll wait... We're patient... Go.
Missed the point
Submitted by iveseenitall on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 12:40pm.
You've missed the point. Our problems are too great to ignore and are getting worse as we speak. Intellectual honesty and practical solutions offered to the American people are what we need, not phony praise and claims of "briiliance" from Washington insiders and the media.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal" (progresseive)