Jon Meacham Claims This Was 'Never an Ideological White House,' Halperin Agrees
All you need to know about the MSM: two of its stalwarts don't think Barack Obama is a real liberal . . .
Time editor Mark Halperin, and Jon Meacham (until recently head Newsweek honcho) expressed--to the astonishment of Joe Scarborough--their fact-defying views on today's Morning Joe.
View video after the jump.
Consider the implications for a MSM so ideologically skewed itself that it doesn't see as a true liberal someone whose most-liberal-in-the-Senate voting record put him to the left of avowed socialist Bernie Sanders, and who as president managed to put 1/7th of the nation's economy under the government's thumb.
JON MEACHAM: I think that, I continue to believe--and people don't agree with this--this was never an ideological White House.
JOE SCARBOROUGH: Oh you're wrong.
MEACHAM: It just wasn't. These was not, this were not.
SCARBOROUGH: So what was it? Because they were the most progressive --
MIKA BRZEZINSKI: They were goal-oriented.
SCARBOROUGH: Despite what [left-wing] bloggers write, they were the most progressive administration since LBJ.
MEACHAM: Within the constraints that we've talked about, which is that the country is essentially center-right, yes they were progressive, but in context. And I continue to believe that there was a very successful job on the part of the conservative opposition to cast the president as more radical than he was.
SCARBOROUGH: The president I believe is deeply, deeply ideological . . . But that's fascinating: you look at everything the president did over the last two years and you don't think he's ideological.
MEACHAM: I don't think he's a doctrinaire liberal. I just don't.
When Joe later turned to Halperin, he got a similarly stunning answer.
SCARBOROUGH: You don't think he's ideological either?
MARK HALPERIN: I don't.
SCARBOROUGH: Really? I find this fascinating, two years later.
MEACHAM: If Halperin says it, I guess --
SCARBOROUGH: I mean, come on: Halperin is gunning for an Obama interview. I mean, the last two weeks have been shameless.
HALPERIN: I just call it as I see it. I think you'll see next year, you will see the president prove to you that he's not a doctrinaire liberal.
MEACHAM: Ask Paul Krugman if he's a doctrinaire liberal, ask the --
SCARBOROUGH: Come on.
MEACHAM: No, that's not a "come-on."
SCARBOROUGH: Seriously, ask Paul Krugman, seriously, if Barney Frank is a liberal. He probably thinks Barney Frank's too conservative.