Deutsch's Health Care Prescription: 'Redistribute Income, Outlaw Tobacco'

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In the grand scheme of things, Donny Deutsch's radical prescription for health care might not count for much.  Just a former-ad-man-turned-pundit spouting off.  But let's consider.  Deutsch is well-off and presumably harbors no electoral ambitions.  He is free to say whatever's on his mind.  And he is immersed in the liberal media-political culture.  Is Deutsch giving voice to the radicalism that Obama/Pelosi/Waxman harbor but dare not fully express?

Appearing on Morning Joe today, Deutsch offered a two-part plan for health care:

  1. Make the rich pay for it: "I'm an extremist. I'm for redistribution of wealth."
  2. "Outlaw tobacco."
DONNY DEUTSCH: I'm an extremist. I'm for redistribution of wealth. And basically there's no reason why people making over a million bucks a year can't pay nine-thousand bucks a year in extra taxes to save lives.
And a bit later . . .
DEUTSCH: The real hard answer is outlaw cigarettes and save $100 billion a year and that pays for health care.
That predictably appealed to Mika Brzezinski, a Big Mommy government fan who'd like to confiscate everything from coffin nails to curly fries.
MIKA BRZEZINSKI: There you go: that's my answer.

DEUTSCH: You want the real hard answer? We still sell a product that we kill ourselves with.

BRZEZINSKI: Thank you.

DEUTSCH: Outlaw tobacco tomorrow, you solve the health care problem.

JOE SCARBOROUGH: Actually, you don't solve the health care problem.

DEUTSCH: You pay for it. $100 billion--that's what cigarettes cost in health care.

—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.


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And who's going to pay for

And who's going to pay for the health care, Donny, when all those tobacco taxes go bye-bye?

Make the rich pay for it?  And what happens when the rich aren't rich any more?

Hey, they could establish weight standards....make overweight folks pay a tax by the pound, to make up for it! 

I'd worry about giving them ideas, but I think that's already a possibility with Obama...he's already talked about saving money by dealing with obesity before it causes diabetes, hypertension, etc.

When one's personal habits are deemed to affect, and be a matter of concern to everyone, there's no end to what they can regulate.

And who is going to pay for...

... the health issues of people living longer when we have a tobacco free society? Just think of the increased medical costs of people living 5 to 10 years more than now in a tobacco free society.

And who is going to pay for all those government programs that tobacco taxes fund now? Hmmm? The roads , the schools,  children's health care....

HMMM

 

Your forgetting you can't live longer. "O" Dumbo says so!!!!!!!!! 

Outlawing Tabacco wont' save money ...

.. it will just reduce tax revenue.

Every lung cancer victim would eventually die from some other ailment. Arguably a shorter lifespan actually means lower health care costs.  

Good idea,

He could start with his new surgeon general, everyone says she's too overweight, not a good example, etc. etc. (can't believe SRM is even nibbling on the edges of criticizing Barry).

They don't care that they

They don't care that they can't answer your questions.  The elitist-expertist utopians know better than everyone else.  Just because their Big-Brotherism has never worked in the past is no reason not to keep trying it.

Their goal is total control of civilization regardless of the welfare of the people.  In this way the Left is no different than the Nazis, the Commies or the Jihadists.

They hate freedom.  It prevents them from total dominance.

Tax the rich

I have heard Donny Deutsch many times declare he would be willing to pay more in taxes, however he has never put a number or % to it. How about Donny, the goverment take 85% of your annual salary, or even better confiscate 85% of your total net worth. Would that make you feel better. It would make me feel better. How about we tax you all until you cry uncle. Knowing it was all going towards a good cause should be enough to put a smile on your face. As for tabacco, I guess DD does not know how much states rely on that revenue. DD, never let that facts get in the way of a feel good liberal story. Happy for you that Mika got her thrill up the leg. Good work.

Deutch is for higher taxes

Deutch is for higher taxes on ME, not Him. Stupid or lazy people ALWAYS want other peoples money. All liberals do. Always, Always. Other people's money is always the answer to liberals, until it becomes their money, then it's a different story.

So true

Donny (and all the other tax loving libs) have had the opportunity to pay extra taxes for years. There is no law against sending money to government agencies. But none of them are writing out extra checks at tax time, and every one of them scrutinizes their taxes to make sure they get all the deductions they deserve. I'll even bet Donny hires a really good tax accountant.

His Daddy (the guy he

His Daddy (the guy he inherited his ad agency from) made sure he always had a good accountant. the guy never had to work hard his entire life.

 

Redistribute...

Hey, Donny, I could use a couple of thou......

HMMMMM

 

 And I thought a tax increase on Tabaco was to pay for S Chip???? 

So let me understand Donny's logic here...

make smokes illegal, raise taxes on the rich and fix everything. Right. Here comes the law of unintended consiquences Donny. Smokers will buy cigs on the black market and deprive the government of millions (billions?) in tax dollars. The new health care system will not have those tax dollars available, and taxes will have to be raised again. Do these people think at all, or just puke out what they think sounds good for the moment?

How about California? They want to make weed legal, while at the same time they want smoking cigaretts to go away. Amazing. 

"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."~David St. Hubbins

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dollar a Roll

I am calling for a 1 dollar a roll tax on toilet paper, that way every time the "mommy gov" buttholes wipe their butts and/are blow their nose(hard to tell which is which) they will know what it's like to pay a discriminatory tax on a product they choose to use every day. This tax alone could pay for health care and pay off the national debt and balance the budget. Plus it would encourage people to be conservative on how many wipes/blows they take thus reducing sewage, reducing carbon emissions, saving millions of trees, etc. etc., their is no end to the "green benefits". Plus it would create a new aftermarket for corn cobs and dual use for magazines, newspapers, etc..!!~~!! There Ya Go, in about 15 minutes i just solved the whole dam mess.!!~~!!

 (GRINS)!!~~!!   kilrod  

Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier

This really is not a bad

This really is not a bad idea. The more you go, the more you have consumed.

kilrod... My other half

kilrod...

My other half has suggested the same idea you did regarding taxing toilet paper....now that is a fair tax, plus I love he way you worded it in your post.

Plus, they have so-called green toilet paper too....we laughed ourselves silly when we saw this in our local stores years ago now....and we're in logging country.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

hey donny boy

if you are so in favor of wealth redistribution, i can send you my address and you can share your wealth with me. 

In the interest of better health,

meaning the health of Donny, and in the interest of the rest of ours, meaning reducing our blood pressure. Lets ban Donny from TV, that will reduce the incidents of high blood pressure caused by his stupidity, and will drastically reduce the if looks could kill stares at the tv falling upon him.

 

...how about we have a recall vote on Senator/Congressperson so and so....

If you think the cost of

If you think the cost of healthcare has increased a lot over the past 10 years, just check out any of the articles on public pensions!

DEAR DONNIE -

If you want to redistribute income in this country, how's about starting with yours.

Nothing is stopping you. All it takes is cutting a check made out to the U.S. Treasury, and a stamped envelope. You also might want to put your SSI# in the memo box.

This is all you'd have to do.

Simple.

But you won't. No, that would be too easy and not garner you the hossanas from the self-important east-coast, look-at-me intelligencia.

 

I tried that arguement on a Lib once

he said he would prefer to be forced to pay more taxes, than to volunteer a check,

I guess he was unable to determine what his fair share was.

...how about we have a recall vote on Senator/Congressperson so and so....

Donnie Deutsch

Go.............Sgthulka!!!   I love your solution.

Another useless Tv mouther

There is always one law that is more effective (read destrcutive)than any other law that congress passes in their do good mentality. It's the law of unintended consequences. You can't get around that one. Guys like Don don't ever seem to contemplate that. If he's so concerned about health insurance and wants to pay more he should find someone or a group of someones without insurance and buy it for them.

There's no reason why not ... is not a reason why

"I'm an extremist. I'm for redistribution of wealth. And basically there's no reason why people making over a million bucks a year can't pay nine-thousand bucks a year in extra taxes to save lives."

Why not is not why.

So far, Deutsch has suggested that tobacco companies pay, rich people pay ... everyone, of course, except him. All of these proposals come down to the same trick - let's find out how we can get someone else to pay for what we want. He thinks you'll go along with the scheme because you make out on the deal, too. But don't kid yourself. It won't be long before Deutsch want you to be the fool who pays for him. As long as he isn't paying, he doesn't care who is.

And in typical liberal

And in typical liberal fashion, Deutsch doesn't see any reason why he should prove that his theory is a good idea, workable, and will produce the desired results.  Liberals just throw their gut wish out there (ban tobacco; make the rich pay!!) and challenge others to prove that it's NOT a smart idea!

""I'm an extremist. I'm for

""I'm an extremist. I'm for redistribution of wealth. And basically
there's no reason why people making over a million bucks a year can't
pay nine-thousand bucks a year in extra taxes to save lives.""

Ahhh, yes, just $9,000 more...because the $500,000 they likely already pay in taxes just isn't quite enough.

Donny Deutsch Bag

Funny how these people have no problem telling other people what to do with their money.  The problem is people are so uninformed or have misinformation.  I am losing faith in this country. 

My neighbor was blaming Bush for this mess last night, I told her to look at congress and who has been running it since 2006.  She said no way,  my jaw dropped, these people are complete idiots I just wish they could go off the cliff without taking us with them.

God help America

clubchamp6

Donny Deutsch Bag!?  OMO!  I can't stop laughing!

At least he admits it.

   I'm an extremist. I'm for redistribution of wealth.

1 : the quality or state of being extreme

2 : advocacy of extreme measures or views : radicalism

extreme:

3. farthest from the center or middle; outermost; endmost: the extreme limits of a town. 
4. farthest, utmost, or very far in any direction: an object at the extreme point of vision. 
5. exceeding the bounds of moderation: extreme fashions.

 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Useful Idiots

People in favor of 'redistribution of income' if not true socialists, are useful idiots. They don't see themselves as rich; very few people see themselves as 'rich'. They suppose that the redistribution will be from folks in a class above them, to a class below them, leaving them untouched. They can't comprehend the fact that the huge inefficiencies government always introduces will mean they have to dig deep into the middle class to fund their porky programs.

Dear Donny Deutsch

Dear Donny Deutsch

I'm an extremist, too!  

Immediately (re)distribute $100,000.00 from your personal bank account to my personal bank account. 

Expect to make this little (re)distribution at precisely noon, on the 21st of every month, from now until the end of time.

Your Kindred Extremist
XXX ♥♥♥ XXX

donny

Are you for real, or just anothe ass***e with a set of vocal cords and a platform to use them?

we have outlawed recreational drugs-

that just did not seem to work. soooo, lets try another killer, alcohol, lets ban beer, wine and spirits, another killer auto accidents-lets ban automobiles-we kill the unborn and now we want the old folks to die. okay we have those between 25-60 years old. okay lets kill the 50-60 group next.

now we have no tobacco, no alcohol, no automobiles that generate taxes and no tax payers, perfect enough for you a$$hole.

BHO-  THE PROGRESSIVE PIRATE

 

 

 

AIDS

While we're at it, how much is spent treating AIDS/HIV? This is caused by a behavior(s) Donny just like smoking. Stop the behavior!  You and other liberals DO NOT have the guts to propose this today or ever.

Prohibition worked so well,

Prohibition worked so well, and we certainly can see the light at the end of the tunnel in the war against drugs. Gosh, I think banning tobacco is a swell idea. All you critics just don't care about anyone else.

Who Donnie Deutsch REALLY is

Donnie likes to give the impression that he is a kid from the streets of New York and created this very successful ad agency.

The truth is that Donnie's father created the agency and Donnie grew up in an upscale are of New York.

Deutsch's cavalier attitude is because is never had to struggle to make a living - everything was handed to him. He is simply a pompous silver spoon brat with a big mouth and half a brain.

And I can tell you that from the experience of knowing him.

I wonder what his clients would think of goal of redistribution of wealth and might rethink giving this silver spooned idiot the responsibility of advertising their businesses. Among them are:

Dr. Pepper Snapple Group; Olympus; IKEA; Under Armor; Sports Authority; Anheuser Busch; DirectTV; TGI Friday; Anthem Health Insurance; Kodak; Tylenol; Saturn; Johnson & Johnson; Novartis; and Starwood.

Deutch

All together now......

Sieg HEIL.......  SIEG HEIL......

The concept of private property is deeply embedded...

The concept of private property is deeply embedded in the United States psyche. It is a principal component of what makes America what we are. Deutsch, by his cavalier attitude toward private ownership, speaks volumes about his lack of appreciation of this fundamental concept. Moreover, he has no idea of what personal risk it places him in to suggest such an aberrant "prescription" for what ails us. Extremists often expire for their cause, and this would be no exception because there are millions of Americans who would be pleased to send Mr. Deutsch to the Great Beyond for less. 

              

                Redistribute this idiot's paycheck, see how he feels then........Go ahead & ban tobacco, see how that works out. It worked wonders on stopping the "pot" problem, didn't it? Some people just don't know when to stop talking.

Deutsch is a fraud

This man is a fraud, and I wish Scarborough would've called him out on it.

I remember when Deutsch always wore a purple shirt on his failure of a television show because he liked to say, "I'm not red. I'm not blue. I am purple. I am a sane moderate." Of course, it was a lie then, and it's definitely a lie now as he admits, "I am an extremist."

The real joke is that Deutsch once went nuts when Ann Coulter said she was praying that he (a Jew) would convert to Christianity. Deutsch found it incredibly offensive that someone would pray that an individual would see things their way, yet this same man has no qualms using the force of law on other individuals to make them do things he desires.

Deutsch is missing the same thing the rest of the Leftists are -- intellectual honesty.

He's always has been a fraud

His ad agency was not started by him. It was started by his father and he inherited it.

He says he grew up on the streets of NYC. He grew in a very upscale private home section of NYC with lots of money.

He is known for having a sharp mouth and not too much upstairs.

Hey Donny Douche...

...you'll have to pry the cigar out of my cold, dead hands! 

- Just paraphrasing a great man who had more character in his smallest toenail than Donny Douche could ever hope to possess.  

 SG

Someone ought to send this

Someone ought to send this guy a tweet and tell him that Grecian Formula is being discontinued because of the bad economy.  Might get his attention.

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).

"DEUTSCH: Outlaw tobacco

"DEUTSCH: Outlaw tobacco tomorrow, you solve the health care problem.'

Yeah, but then, how will you pay for SCHIP?

"DEUTSCH: You pay for it. $100 billion--that's what cigarettes cost in health care."

So instead, we'll spend it on law enforcement chasing down tobacco dealers/users/growers.

→ Tobacco Runners

We've already got Hamas bootlegging cigarettes to New York.

Is Obama trying to get us to inadvertently fund the destruction of Israel?

You know, I really don't

You know, I really don't get this arguement that cigarettes cost $100 billion in health care. You know that the mortalily rate among humans is 100%. So if smoking doesn't kill you..something else well?..perhaps

BTW..I don't smoke;)

Re smoking

I'm sure you noticed the story on Drudge of the world's oldest man that died at 113. When asked the secret of his long life he had said it was cigarettes, whiskey, and wild, wild women.

Actually smokers usually

Actually smokers usually cost less in terms of overall health care.  They do get sick more often, but are far less likely to have expensive end of life treatments since they don't live (on average) to the point of needing hip replacement surgeries and the like in old age. 

The real cost of smokers is loss of productivity.  So, I guess in the socialist state that he is after a smoker is not desired because he doesn't produce for the state at the same level as a non-smoker.

And where does Donny Boy

And where does Donny Boy expect to recoup the lost tax revenue for this "health" "care" program once the punitive taxes have caused smokers to quit and businesses and higher-income individuals to shrug? 

"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered."  -George Best