So this is the new line from the left. Now it doesn't matter what it costs. The end justifies the means. Typically ignorant talk from the "liberals" in America. At what point will they be stopped?

NEVER,NEVER trust a 'liberal"

He uses two things....

1)  defense of our nation (I know, some disagree with that but on Iraq, but that's not the point here) which is a Constitutional requirement of the federal government

2)  cutting the amount of income that government seizes from us, which gets the federal government a little bit off of our backs, as the Constitution is for OUR protection not government's amusement.

So he uses those two things in his rant on healthcare, to try and crap on those who are against government run healthcare, paid for by taking money from some to give to others.  The goverment already does TONS of that.

There is a difference, Mr. Dionne.  Pick different examples if you're going to make any semblence of sense.

If one wants something, one should pay for it. Soooo..if the libtards want this so bad, they should anty up "their" money for it. Then, they could show the world how it is done, that their hearts and souls are in it. Sure between the Big OPRAH and Soros and H-wood elites, they could cover it. Hey, make yourself useful in life instead of just running your mouth.

BTW, I was in the 95% of Americans who got a tax cut under Bush. I have yet to get one under the Bamster.

Obama said no more spending - except for healthcare.

Can anyone tell me if Obama and the Democrats can be stopped in their tracks from stealing our money, our futures, our children's futures? I don't mean by the next election, I mean by the law or by enough people signing a petition to have Obama impeached!

Yeah, WHERE IS MY TAX CUT? I thought we were supposed to start seeing them in April? I still haven't seen it reflected in my paycheck. Also, when are our Scrotumless republicans going to challenge these idiots on this "50 million uninsured" lie? It's 47 million according to the Census; 11 million of those are illegals. 15 million of them make more that 50k a year and can afford their own insurance. 15 million are young people between 18-35 who don't feel the need to purchase it. Where exactly is the health crisis?

If this health care issue isn't stopped, it's over for this nation. The "Land of the Free" will be but a distant memory, as the government will have a direct line to controlling every aspect of your life. And with folks like Obama in charge, don't doubt for a second that they won't use it.

The libs have essentially already won the fight over national socialist "healthcare".  Rather than arguing over the constitutionality of the federal government legislating funding for such programs (and in case you went to a public school, the 10th Amendment specifically forbids such federal spending), our elected representatives are now simply arguing over just exactly how massive the program should be. 

Every member of every branch of the federal government took an oath upon entering office to uphold the US Constitution, including Article 1, Section 8 and the 10th Amendment.  Thus every federal office holder has a sworn obligation to stop this type of unconstitutional federal spending.  Failure to do so is a breach of that oath, and should rightly be seen as neglect of duty by a civil officer, which is an impeachable offense.  The oath of office demands, exclusively and above all else, that the official will support and defend the Constitution.

If members of the military can be imprisoned for similar (or even lesser) derelictions of sworn duties, then so should Congress.  In fact, elected office holders should be held to an even higher standard than military members, since their official powers enable them to inflict far worse damage to the citizens of this country.

Whenever any lib brings up the issue of national "health care", the only response from conservatives should be, "Please point out what part of the US Constitution authorizes federal spending for such a program".  Then they should simply shut-up and let their lib opponent proceed to embarrass themselves with their lack of knowledge on US civics.  After the lib runs out of breath, the question should then be calmly repeated.

It's time for conservatives to reframe these arguments in the terms that they should be debated- Constitutionality.  That would be an argument that the libs could never win.  At least as long as conservatives remain intellectually disciplined and don't allow libs to change the terms of debate.

"Fascism is rightly seen as the merger of the Corporation and Government." -B. Mussolini

And to add 55 million people will add 1 trillion more PER YEAR, to our already huge 2.5 trillion/yr bill.
That's why the smart people ask how we pay for it.
This isnt chump change, especially for a country ALREADY with a 2 trillion deficit.

Unfortunately, for the pain it will cause, the stock market is going to drive the failure of this initiative.  If you look at the 10 and 30 yr treasury auctions the last couple of weeks, you see tremendous spikes in interest rates.  As these two treasuries spike up in rates, it will ripple throughout the economy.  For example, we are already seeing the slowing of mortgage financing.  At some point, people will adandon the stock market as rates climb to the extent that one can make more money in bonds then in common stock. 

As I write this, the market has been struggling.  For example, the party is over in finacials - a key industry that historically leads the market out of a recession - have been trading in a range for the last three weeks.  They lead the market to the downside today. 

Meanwhile, commodities, of all types, are soaring.  Gold near $1000; oil over $70 and up over 60% since the beginning of the year; and copper up 50% since the beginning of the year.  

Gasoline has spiked 50 cents in the last month and expect it to go up another 50 cents over the summer.  Meanwhile, Congress is scheming to raise gasoline taxes - by as much as another 50 cents.  Expect $3+ plus gasoline by the end of the summer.

Had enough, yet?  Dims - do you think you have made a BIG mistake?  Any "community organizers" out there for Republicans in the 2010 elections?

Yes, let's not worry about paying for things that cost money. God forbid we become responsible with the prosperity and liberty of our future generations. 

Wait...isn't that how we got into many of these fiscal and economic disasters in the first place? Leave it up to the "progressives" and their accomplices in the media to push the hard-left line of "do-whatever-it-takes" to fundamentally alter our society - even if it means complete economic collapse. After all, that's their ultimate goal anyway. Good thing they have their guy in the White House, even if he isn't legit.

The Dangers of Barack Hussein Obama

Someday, these fools will pay for their crimes against liberty. Let's just hope it won't be too late for them to suffer the consequences of their treachery.

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because that comment was very idiotic.  Saying its OK to NOT be concerned about how things are going to be paid for is what lead us to the giant pit of debt that we are in now.  Using that thinking, I can go out and get that six figure car that I've always wanted and worry about those money details later.

"It is as impossible for man to demonstrate the existence of God as it would be for even Sherlock Holmes to demonstrate the existence of Arthur Conan Doyle." -Frederick Buechner

Face it, folks, nationalized health care is inevitable. There are just too many government-educated, People Magazine reading idiots among us who firmly believe they have a right to health care.

They have absolutely no problem whatsoever with using the police powers of the federal government to force others to give up part of their lives in order to pay for their care, either.

Nor do they care if it bankrupts and already bankrupt nation.

-Dave

Obama's health care "reform" plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof-Herman Cain