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NBC's Chuck Todd Uses Sarah Palin to Disqualify Marco Rubio as Potential VP

By Kyle Drennen | April 24, 2012 | 11:33

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Appearing on Tuesday's NBC Today, political director Chuck Todd warned Mitt Romney against picking Marco Rubio as a vice presidential running mate with a negative comparison to Sarah Palin: "The drawbacks – inexperience. Do you want to pick somebody who basically has the same amount of time in statewide office that a person who was on the ticket last time by the name of Sarah Palin had?"

Todd oddly asserted: "...he's never really been vetted. When you say vetted, his campaign for the Senate, he breezed through. He never had the rough and tumble." In what way did he "breeze through"? Rubio had a long and contentious primary battle with former Florida governor Charlie Crist, who then proceeded to run in the general election as an independent. Rubio had to defeat both Crist and the Democrat to win the seat.

Todd also suggested that Rubio was also the wrong kind of Hispanic to appeal to Latino voters: "...it isn't a home run that a Cuban-American is going to appeal to Mexican-Americans where it counts in places like Colorado and Nevada, and New Mexico."

Co-host Matt Lauer piled on: "And [Rubio] has made a couple of misstatements in the past that have kind of cost him a little bit." He then wondered: "Marco Rubio has a very big personality. Is that a good thing? Do you want to add personality or might that overshadow the candidate?" Todd replied: "They don't want somebody to overshadow him [Romney]. And I think that this is a demerit, if you will, for Marco Rubio..."

Continuing to cite Palin as someone that no potential running mate should emulate, Todd offered this suggestion for the Republican VP: "If you put Sarah Palin into a computer and you said, 'give me the opposite of,' you would get [Ohio Senator] Rob Portman. You know, he is quiet. He is workman-like. This is a guy from, by the way, the swing state of Ohio. Has a lot of experience in government."

Todd still found a problem with Portman though: "I think his biggest demerit is going to be his years in the Bush administration. I think having Bush – quote/unquote 'Bush baggage' – not going to be good."

After dismissing New Jersey Governor Chris Christie as another pick that might "overshadow" Romney and worrying that former Florida Governor Jeb Bush's "last name might be a problem," Todd again brought up Palin in discussing the possibility of Condoleezza Rice:

I think it's going to be tough to pick any woman because of the inevitable comparisons to Sarah Palin, that whole idea of the ten-day. However, Condi Rice is somebody who has her own persona outside of – she wouldn't feel this idea that she would be compared for ten straight days after the pick to Sarah Palin.

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Here is a full transcript of the April 24 exchange:

7:14AM ET

MATT LAUER: Five states hold Republican presidential primaries today, including Pennsylvania, where Mitt Romney turned some heads by campaigning on Monday with Florida Senator Marco Rubio. Some believe it may have been a trial run or a preview of the Republican ticket. Chuck Todd is NBC's political director and chief White House correspondent. Chuck, good morning to you.

CHUCK TODD: Good morning, Matt.

LAUER: Marco Rubio, first-term Cuban-American senator. He could help Mitt Romney with Latino voters. The Tea Party loves this guy. And he happens to be from the battleground state of Florida. Check, check, check. What am I missing?

TODD: No, you're not missing much. Plus he's young. And there is some idea that you need a generational lift for the Republican ticket. And he might be able to have an appeal to more youthful voters. There's a lot of positives here, but there's some negatives.

LAUER: So what are the drawbacks?

TODD: The drawbacks – inexperience. Do you want to pick somebody who basically has the same amount of time in statewide office that a person who was on the ticket last time by the name of Sarah Palin had? So, that's number one. Two, it isn't – it isn't a home run that a Cuban-American is going to appeal to Mexican-Americans where it counts in places like Colorado and Nevada, and New Mexico. And the third thing is, he's never really been vetted. When you say vetted, his campaign for the Senate, he breezed through. He never had the rough and tumble.

LAUER: And has made a couple of misstatements in the past that have kind of cost him a little bit. Talk about personality and chemistry, okay? Mitt Romney, let's be honest here, is not known as the biggest personality in the room. Marco Rubio has a very big personality. Is that a good thing? Do you want to add personality or might that overshadow the candidate?

TODD: They seem to be focused on this idea. They don't want somebody to overshadow him. And I think that this is a demerit, if you will, for Marco Rubio, a demerit for Chris Christie, even a Jeb Bush. Anybody that will look bigger. You don't want your nominee to look small compared to the running mate.

LAUER: Another guy getting some attention right now is Rob Portman, he's a senator from Ohio. Why is he getting the attention?

TODD: If you put Sarah Palin into a computer and you said, "give me the opposite of," you would get Rob Portman. You know, he is quiet. He is workman-like. This is a guy from, by the way, the swing state of Ohio. Has a lot of experience in government. Would allow this idea, Matt, of doubling down on, okay, it is time to go after the budget and go into the weeds.

LAUER: Yeah, but two very, quiet, subdued, subtle guys. How's that going to work on the campaign tram?

TODD: Well, and that's what's unclear. You know, what's interesting about Portman is that he's always played the person who fills in for the debate. He's done the practice debate guy. So he has more personality than he gets credit for. I think his biggest demerit is going to be his years in the Bush administration. I think having Bush – quote/unquote "Bush baggage" – not going to be good.

LAUER: The next few names, let's just go scale of one to ten, ten being certainty, one being never gonna happen. Chris Christie, you brought his name up before.

TODD: Yeah, I think he's going to get vetted, but I think over time because of the overshadow – the idea that he could overshadow the nominee, that's going to be a problem.

LAUER: Jeb Bush. You know, he said they've been trying to get him to run as the presidential candidate for ages now. He made some waves last week when he said maybe he'd consider the number two slot.

TODD: If they care about the Hispanic vote, I actually think Jeb Bush is a better pick than Marco Rubio. Because he would be able to appeal to Hispanics in a way Marco Rubio wouldn't. But I think, again, the Bush last name might be a problem.

LAUER: You've got a long shot on your list, Condoleezza Rice.

TODD: Well, I do. I think it's going to be tough to pick any woman because of the inevitable comparisons to Sarah Palin, that whole idea of the ten-day. However, Condi Rice is somebody who has her own persona outside of – she wouldn't feel this idea that she would be compared for ten straight days after the pick to Sarah Palin. And that's why I think – plus foreign policy, that matters.

LAUER: Alright, Chuck Todd. Chuck, as always, good to see you.

TODD: You got it.

LAUER: Pleasure.

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Before the inevitable...

Submitted by Annie Ashe Fields on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:35am.

...request for Rubio's birth certificate, that you will surely make, Chucky, be sure to ask for Obama's college loan applications and transcripts.

THERE'S some vetting for you, big boy.

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Let's see his passport too.

Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:01pm.

I'd love to see that.

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So, remind me again. How

Submitted by texastommy on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:39am.

So, remind me again. How many years of national office did BHO have? Oh, yeah, two years in the Senate. Oh, and he did absolutely nothing for those two years.

Chuckie, you're a putz.

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Does voting..

Submitted by USMC8411 on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:58am.

Present count?

He ain't called F. Chuck Todd for nothing!

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F. Chuck...

Submitted by TC Lynch on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 1:04pm.

...has been getting his butt whipped on Twitter for his latest mouth-vomit "analysis" and he ain't taking it well!

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""...he's never really been vetted. "

Submitted by DumbCanuck on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:46am.

When Todd says that, he means that the media hasn't really had the chance to destroy him yet, like what they did to Cain, Bachmann, Perry (although he did help cut his own throat - "ooops"), Santorum (ditto), and Gingrich (thrice)

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And ironically enough, the Trayvon Martin killing . . .

Submitted by Galvanic on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 2:22pm.

. . . may offer a glimpse at how sensitive the MSM is to attacking a Hispanic American.

Shooter George Zimmerman is a self-identified Democrat and Hispanic American. The MSM does not mention either. Of course, that wouldn't fit their racial template, and Hispanic Democrats are laying low on this, too.

But what about attacking Marco Rubio?

There will be no hiding of the fact that Rubio is a Cuban-American because the GOP will remind everyone, and he'd be addressing crowds in both English and Spanish.

Would there be a backlash to Democratic attacks and are they willing to risk one?

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"Inexperienced"?

Submitted by fivestring_assassin on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:48am.

you mean, sorta like Obama inexperienced?

Look where that has gotten us

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take over of NBC

Submitted by frank_andrini on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:49am.

Will it require armed teams in the control rooms and studios to bring NBC and their ilk to admit their complicity in helping to destroy this once great Nation? You must excuse me the VA was out of grits AND eggs this morning and I was 'forced' to eat oatmeal and eggbusters 8P

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Political pundits are really

Submitted by ray johnson on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:50am.

Political pundits are really "a dime a dozen". Who isn't a pundit these days? Bashing Palin is easy, and the most mindless thing they've got. It's always a winner, and the depth of insight is about as deep as a scratch. Both are maybe just above the Gloria Borger level of comment (which is about sixth grade).

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The MBM always does us the

Submitted by Free Stinker on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:56am.

The MBM always does us the favor or telling us who they fear.

 

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Todd's description of the inexperienced Rubio . . .

Submitted by Galvanic on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:58am.

. . . matches Hillary Clinton's description of Barack Obama in 2008.

Oh, yeah, there is that keen distinction: Obama is a Democrat, while Rubio is a Republican.

Obama = Ready for Presidency. Rubio = Too inexperienced to be the VP.

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Us back woods. . .

Submitted by rickbren on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:35pm.

. . . hicks don't 'member nuthin' 'bout th' 'lection we had last time with that ferner runnin' that nobuddy tawked 'bout. Chuck. ure so smart!!!

Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment.
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Marco Rubio

Submitted by enchantedone on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 1:07pm.

In regard to Marco. Even though he was born in Miami, Florida, both his parents were CUBAN CITIZENS at the time of his birth. Therefore he is NOT a natural born citizen. Therefore he cannot run for office of the Prez and/or VP. Republicans cannot be hypocritical. They either favor and follow the Constitution or they do not. If you think for one second that barry isn't going to jump on this if Marco is selected, I have a bridge in the everglades to sell. As an aside, Marco himself has said he is not eligible.

Mitt needs to get someone who is conservative as Mitt is not. I would suggest either Allen West or Hermain Cain. West would be my first choice. Marco can stay where he is and he will probably be able to do more good there then if he were, if he could as a VP.

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Are you dumb or a liar or

Submitted by MrSnuggles on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 1:27pm.

Are you dumb or a liar or both? If your mother gives birth to you in this country you are a natural born citizen. Your parents status matters not.

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~Nope

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 2:48pm.

The Founders were pretty clear that the children of non-citizens born here (like the children of foreign ambassadors, for instance) did not automatically become citizens.

ETA: Look up Sen. Jacob Howard and Sen. Lyman Trumbull and the year 1866 for details.

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Marco Rubio

Submitted by enchantedone on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 1:07pm.

In regard to Marco. Even though he was born in Miami, Florida, both his parents were CUBAN CITIZENS at the time of his birth. Therefore he is NOT a natural born citizen. Therefore he cannot run for office of the Prez and/or VP. Republicans cannot be hypocritical. They either favor and follow the Constitution or they do not. If you think for one second that barry isn't going to jump on this if Marco is selected, I have a bridge in the everglades to sell. As an aside, Marco himself has said he is not eligible.

Mitt needs to get someone who is conservative as Mitt is not. I would suggest either Allen West or Hermain Cain. West would be my first choice. Marco can stay where he is and he will probably be able to do more good there then if he were, if he could as a VP.

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And a new Sleeper account is activated

Submitted by Free Stinker on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 1:55pm.

1st comment in 3+ years is that?

 

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Enchanted Ignorance

Submitted by bassndude on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 2:13pm.

Citizenship in the United States has not so much to do if your parents were born here or not, but where you were born. Marco was born in the US, therefore he is an American Citizen. You should READ the Constitution before commenting on it.

Why do you think they call the Mexican babies born here, "anchor babies"?

 

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Definition of Natural Born

Submitted by czigan on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 2:17pm.

The same reason I did not vote for Santorum and Obama will be the reason I do not vote for Rubio for VP or President in that to be Natural Born, both of your parents are to be American citizens at the time of your birth. Santorum and Rubio's parents eventually became American citizens, but not at the time of their births. And Obama's Father was never a citizen, therefore, he should have been vetted by the media and not permitted on any states' ballot for the presidency.

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HAY FREE, A toofer for the day, 5- 3/4 year first poster, lol

Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 2:21pm.

!

You Didn't Build That.

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C'mon UCW

Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 2:26pm.

Anyone who has to tell his in his bio that he has THREE Masters degrees deserves respect, despite such a stupid post.

Or not.

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Masters degrees in what? I

Submitted by bassndude on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 2:35pm.

Masters degrees in what? I would suggest its simple BS, or maybe HotAir. It sure aint Constitutional Law.....

 

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Yep. They come out in force

Submitted by Free Stinker on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 4:48pm.

Yep. They come out in force everytime ObamAA+ is in trouble.

 

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....to be Natural Born, both

Submitted by bassndude on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 2:31pm.

....to be Natural Born, both of your parents are to be American citizens at the time of your birth.

Another ignorant of the Constitution and the 14th Amendment.
Here, try reading this.

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

You will notice where it sayes born or naturalized in the United States. That means one only be born in the United States to be a citizen of the State where in they are born, or live.

Now I have heard that line carried out, to be a citizen of a state is not the same thing. But to agree with that line, then noboby is a US citizen but only a citizen of the state where you live, and anyone born in Washington DC would not be a citizen at all, because the DC area is not a state.

 

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~Not interested in a fight or nuthin'

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 2:57pm.

Just wanted to clarify that I read up on this a few years ago, and the "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" part means that if you're born to non-citizens they are not 'subject to the jurisdiction' of the US, and neither are you, therefore you are not a citizen unless you or your parents go through the naturalization process.

FWIW.

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Bru

Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 2:58pm.

If you're right, we got a heckova lot of anchor babies who have just been pulled up.

I think I would trade Rubio for a possible president if we could get rid of illegals, kids and all, without the whole anchor baby issue.

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~Were his parents not in the process of becoming citizens

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 7:20pm.

when he was born? If they were here legally and had formally renounced their Cuban citizenship, no worries.

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As I heard Dave Webb say

Submitted by Boudin on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 7:37pm.

Mark Levin says he's legal, I am going with Mark.

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Now just where did you hear

Submitted by bassndude on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 3:03pm.

Now just where did you hear that? Not in the constitutional commentary, I know. The Supreme Court has addressed this question several times, and mentioned it in some rulings.

If you reside in a state or country, how are you not under the jurisdiction? Your talking about one instance. Only if you are a diplomat from another country can you reside in a state and not be subject to their jurisdiction. That is the only case.

 

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Unless

Submitted by retrocon on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 4:13pm.

Actually, i think you're 1/2 right, at least, until it's throughly vetted by the SCOTUS.

If you are born here while your parents are here illegally, you should not be a considered a citizen. This is the current "anchor baby" problem we have near the border.

If you are born here while your parents are just "visiting," then it's somewhat questionable, but i doubt most true "visitors" want to declare their child a citizen if they plan on going back to their own country.

However, if your parents were here in under a legal migration status, and they want to declare you a US citizen, i believe that they have plenty of prior precedence to look to. It's been happening for years. The great european migration was a direct example... those folks did not get instantaneous citizenship, they had kids while in the process, and the kids didn't have to reapply, as long as they were born here.

Obama, on the other hand, had one foreign parent with no intention of immigrating here legally, who even declared little Barry a citizen of another country in his youth. Obama never even declared his own citizenship as an adult, instead he took, if i remember, a scholarship as an indonesian citizen, or some such thing... technically declaring his non-citizenship. Not sure of the details, but something like that.

I don't think either side should open this can of worms, especially Obamas, since this will come back to bite him.

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~Here's a link for everyone..

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 7:23pm.

http://www.theamericanresistance.com/issues/anchor_babies_unconstitution...

ETA: I'm not saying any of this because of any opinion about Rubio's status. I don't know a thing about his parents or his birth; I'm just commenting on why the 14th amendment doesn't grant citizenship merely for location of birth, according to my understanding.

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Question

Submitted by longway2go on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 7:11pm.

If a person enters the country legally and is declaring an intent to stay here, has he not made himself "subject to the jurisdiction...."?

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~If a child is born to parent/s here legally and in the process

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 7:15pm.

of becoming citizens, sure. According to my understanding of Amendment 14, anyway. 

I don't know a thing about Rubio's parentage; I was simply responding to the points in the individual posts I replied to.

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West would be my choice...

Submitted by MacWell on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 2:17pm.

if i had one.
West would be the kind of VP who would go out and take charge in matters important to most conservatives. He's not the type of man to sit around and hold hands, and look important all day.
Col. West is a good man, honest, and worthy of my trust, and yes, he'd made a great President as well.

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Don L

Submitted by Don L on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 3:18pm.

I just love the manner in which the punditry class influences the elections. I just wonder to what degree they are doing what the party wants them to do -avoid certain types of people who lack the approval of the elite.

Don L
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UpChuck Toady and his fellow lefty cronies want Romney...

Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 3:31pm.

...to pick a career, inside the beltway RINO politician type so that conservatives will stay home in November - just like they did in 2008.

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

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F-Chuck

Submitted by rockyracoon on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 4:18pm.

Doesn't F-Chuck know that the American electorate does not elect, or vote for a VP? Obviously he doesn't recollect that if anything, Gov. Palin injected life in McPain's pathetic campaign? ...so maybe I'm contradicting myself.

 

Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.

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Then I can disqualify Chuck as a human being.

Submitted by drsamherman on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 4:56pm.

He has the IQ of a doorknob, and is clearly not as useful.

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Qualified?

Submitted by B.Soetoro on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 5:00pm.

I have two words for ANYONE running for vice-president and are asked about their qualifications..."Joe Biden"

B.Soetoro
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Just the facts ma'am....

Submitted by Founders1791 on Wed, 04/25/2012 - 12:11am.

Fact - Marco Rubio has only been a US Senator for 1 year. (Obama had 2years)
Fact - Marco Rubio has never had a private sector job. (think about that)
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The Republican Party is perilously close to a 'permanent rift' over their condescending, derisive, and uncalled for comments about Governor Palin.

Mitt Romney is not drawing crowds that are ever close to what Sarah Palin garnered throughout the country in 2008, during the 2010 Midterms, and just last year in Iowa.

(Strike 1) This 2012 cycle is one long baseless negative ad repeated by the thousands against one of the most accomplished members of our party EVER ...Newt.

(Strike 2) The GOP Establishment, in conjunction with The Romney Team, have been rude, derisive, and downright offensive towards Governor Palin.

Guess what GOP Establishment and "your" candidate Mitt 'The Flipper' Romney? You will have to beat Obumbles ON YOUR OWN A'HOLES.

...some factoids to digest...
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Sarah Palin (R-AK) PUBLIC Experience: [17 years] 92-09
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VP Nominee (08)
Governor (06-09) [3 fiscal years]
Oil & Gas Chairwoman (03-04) [1y]
Mayor (96-02) [6y]
City Council (92-96) [4y]
Commercial Fisherman (89-06) [18y]
TV Sportscaster (88-89) [1y]
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B.S. Journalism Univ.of Idaho (87)
H.S. Diploma Wasilla AK (82)
Born February 11, 1964 Sandpoint, ID (Protestant)
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Ronald Reagan (R-CA) PUBLIC Experience: [8 years] pre-pres
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US President 40th (81-88) [8y]
Governor (67-76) [8y]
Hollywood Actor (37-64) [27y]
Radio Sportscaster (32-37) [6y]
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B.S. Economics and Socialogy Eureka IL (32)
H.S. Diploma Dixon IL (28)
Born February 6, 1911 Tampico, IL (Protestant)
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Marco Rubio (R-FL) PUBLIC Experience: [10 years]
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US Senator (11-12) [1y]
State House (00-09) [9y]
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J.D. Univ.of Miami (96)
B.A. Univ.of Florida (93)
H.S. Diploma South Miami, FL (89)
Born May 28, 1971 Miami, FL (Catholic, Morman)
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