NBC's Curry to Herman Cain: Was Fla. Straw Poll Win Just A 'Protest Vote'?; Cain: People More Powerful Than Media
Update [11:15 ET]: Full transcript added.
In an interview with Herman Cain on Monday's NBC "Today," co-host Ann Curry declared: "The Washington Post is reporting that many of the delegates voted for you – are saying that they voted for you as a protest vote to express no confidence in the Republican field. Do you want to weigh in on this?" [Audio available here]
Cain fired back at the report: "I think that is absolutely false. I talked to a lot of delegates when I was in Florida all last week. It's not a protest vote. Look, the message coming out of that victory was quite simple. First of all, the voice of the people is more powerful than the voice of the media....the people are listening to the message and not simply, with all due respect, just to the media."
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The "Today" show only interviewed Cain once prior to Monday, and that was on the 4th of July, hardly a widely-watched broadcast. At that time, fill-in co-host Savannah Guthrie grilled him: "You said essentially you're inexperienced, the fact that you have never been elected and never held public office is a plus. My question to you is, if you were still a CEO, if you were in business, would you hire someone for a key role who had no experience whatsoever in business?"
Wrapping up the Monday interview, Curry managed to squeeze in a plug for NBC's "Saturday Night Live" and its mocking of Cain: "...the spoofing that SNL gave the Republican debates. And apparently you were spoofed as well. They made fun of your having no government experience and that you used to run a pizza company. Did SNL help you write your next campaign slogan, sir?"
Cain responded with good humor: "I loved that SNL spoof. It didn't offend me at all because it basically was a good spoof about, 'Yes, vote for me and I will deliver.' I couldn't have come up with a better one myself so I'm going to take that one and run with it."
Here is a full transcript of the September 26 interview:
7:01AM ET TEASE:
LESTER HOLT: I think it's fair to say the name Herman Cain was not on a lot of people's radar before this weekend, not really considered a viable candidate for president.
ANN CURRY: That's absolutely right, he's been trailing in the polls. But on Saturday, he didn't just win the Florida straw poll, he dominated with 37% of the vote, more than double any other candidate. Is his message starting to connect with voters or was it more of a vote against the Republican front-runners? We're going to talk about that to Mr. Cain coming up straight ahead.
7:06AM ET SEGMENT:
CURRY: Herman Cain is with us this morning, fresh off his win from the Florida straw poll. Mr. Cain, good morning.
HERMAN CAIN: Good morning. Thank you.
CURRY: You bet. Congratulations. You won big, what, 37% to Perry's 15% and Perry was widely expected to win. But The Washington Post is reporting that many of the delegates voted for you – are saying that they voted for you as a protest vote to express no confidence in the Republican field. Do you want to weigh in on this?
CAIN: I think that is absolutely false. I talked to a lot of delegates when I was in Florida all last week. It's not a protest vote. Look, the message coming out of that victory was quite simple. First of all, the voice of the people is more powerful than the voice of the media. Secondly, message is more powerful than money. Rick Perry and Mitt Romney, they both spent a considerable amount of money in order to try to influence that Florida straw poll. I rented a bus and went all over the state talking to people, sharing my message. That's what made the difference. And we're very proud of that and it's encouraging to us in terms of the fact that the people are listening to the message and not simply, with all due respect, just to the media.
CURRY: Well, let's talk about, though, this other factor, which is how Rick Perry did in the presidential debates. You shine in these presidential debates. How much do you think his performance hurt him?
CAIN: I believe it hurt him a lot because – not just in terms of what he said but in terms of how he said it. And now that I've been through five debates, I've got to tell you, you become – you become a little bit better at it. You understand the rules. You understand how you have to respond very quickly, which means that it's more than being able to come in with some prepared sound bites. You can't come into a debate like this with prepared sound bites, especially when you have as many candidates. I simply come in prepared on the facts and then I respond based upon my emotions, my feelings, and what my true opinions are about some of the issues. I think it definitely was a negative for him in the last debate.
CURRY: You have been expressing a lot of opinions about the economy and you talked earlier about your message. So let's talk about that briefly. You know, you're you a business man. Besides reducing what you see as a crushing regulatory and tax burden on business, how would you get corporations to suddenly start investing this $2 trillion in cash that they're sitting on to get this economy moving again, getting people jobs again?
CAIN: Unlike all of my competitors in this race, they are trying to tinker around the edges by trying to recommend a fix based upon the current tax code. My plan starts with throw out the tax code. It's bold. Because this economy is on life support. And then pass my 999 plan. A 9% business flat tax, a 9% personal tax, and a 9% national sales tax. It'll replace the payroll tax, corporate and personal income taxes, the capital gains tax, and also replace – it would also replace the death tax.
Businesses will get excited about it because it will provide certainty. And they won't be penalized for bringing some of those trillions of dollars back home. Certainty is what the American business community is looking for. The business community represents the engine of growth. And that's why my 999 plan is appealing to so many business people, as well as many workers across America.
CURRY: Meantime, you saw earlier in our report the spoofing that SNL gave the Republican debates. And apparently you were spoofed as well. They made fun of your having no government experience and that you used to run a pizza company. Did SNL help you write your next campaign slogan, sir?
CAIN: You may hear that last line in my next debate performance. I loved that SNL spoof. It didn't offend me at all because it basically was a good spoof about, 'Yes, vote for me and I will deliver.' I couldn't have come up with a better one myself so I'm going to take that one and run with it.
CURRY: Alright, Herman Cain, thank you so much this morning. It is great talking to you.
CAIN: Thanks, Ann. My pleasure.
CURRY: You bet.
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Nothing I enjoy more than seeing conservatives call out these
Submitted by krendler on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 10:33am.
Nothing I enjoy more than seeing conservatives call out these imbeciles in the media directly during interviews and debates. Palin, Gingrich and Giuliani do it exceptionally well.
Candidates and elected officials need to treat these jerks like the partisan operatives they are. Put questions to THEM, just as if they were part of the Obama admin. These interviews shouldn't be one-sided interrogations where the conservative has to constantly be on the defensive. They should be TWO-way debates. e.g., "Now I have a question for you, Ann...."
Can't you just see Carney et. al.
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 10:57am.
Perhaps along w/Little Debs, and perhaps Chuck Todd, in their little confab, trying to figure out "what this means" (Cain's victory).
Then they toss ideas out on the table, finally hitting on the "protest vote" meme.
Yeah, THAT's the ticket!!!!
Then 25 minutes later, it starts spewing forth from the democrat leadership and the MSM talking heads.
I love it that Cain says what he thinks. He and Newt are leading the charge on this, and before long they are going to have the press backing off this stupidity, because they are beginning to look really stupid even to the general public.
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Ann Curry came off a bit insulting if you ask me.
Submitted by TeachertT on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 11:00am.
The question was framed in such a manner that Mr. Cain wouldn't have won the straw poll if there wasn't a protest about the other candidates. It sounded like she was trying to downplay Mr. Cain's win. Does she think Mr. Cain couldn't win a republican straw poll because he was black? Sounds racist to me. Or maybe she was implying that republicans are racist to use Mr. Cain for a "protest vote".
I mean, it couldn't be that his message resounds with the people of Florida. He message resounds with me. I like him.
Ann Curry is probably the
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 11:41am.
Ann Curry is probably the most deplorable member of the interview media. She fawns over Ahmadinejad!!.... then she badgers Herman Cain.
Ever since her harrassment of the late Benazir Bhutto, (possibly before that, but that's when I became aware of her sanctimonious attacks), she continues to prove she's not worth a tinker's dam as far as either journalism or ethics go.
Ditto
Submitted by KyWriter on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 12:26pm.
Curry has only one agenda and she is aghast that Herman Cain is not a liberal. Of course, she cannot square her love for Ahmadinejad with liberal "principles." so she would be a mass of anxiety if she weren't so deluded.
How is 37% a "protest" vote?
Submitted by Iowa Boy on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 11:04am.
Sometimes allegedly smart media people just cannot see the flippin' trees for the forest, or when they do, they say its a different kind of tree. Mr. Cain more than DOUBLED the vote count of Gov. Perry. That is not a protest vote, that's a seismic shift.
What is it Rush always says? "Conservatism works every time its tried."
Ah, yes,
Submitted by HockeyKid on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 11:09am.
"with all due respect". I love that phrase. It works a lot like "bless your heart".
I love Herman Cain. I'm afraid, however, that Obysmal has poisoned the well for black candidates. A large portion of voters who voted for him just to be part of the "historic election of America's first black president" are surely kicking themselves by now. Unfortunately, they are also (by definition) among those voters who are racist. Consequently, they aren't going to be favorable to another black candidate anytime soon.
Add in the "Marion Barry factor", where voters will defend to the death any candidate for whom they cast a ballot (regardless of clear evidence), and it's going to be a tough row to hoe for a candidate seeking to become America's second black president. The group mentioned above won't vote for Cain because he's black, and the second group won't vote for him because he's not Barack ("in fact, he dissin' Barack").
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
hk - you forgot one point
Submitted by mom_rox on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 1:01pm.
Herman Cain would be (will be? ) the first black president. Pres. Obama is a 'halfrican-American' who has poisoned the well for liberalism, not blacks.
95% of Black Voters...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 1:50pm.
...Approve of Brack Insane Oblamer's skin color...
Not that voting for a candidate based on his skin color is racist.
How insulting. Instead of
Submitted by Ed Gregory on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 11:17am.
How insulting. Instead of asking Cain her own question, she hides behind some BS Washington Post report?
Explain to me how a poll declaring him the winner could be construed as a no-confidence vote against the Republican field...when he's in the Republican field! Ann, dear, listen closely: he won because more people liked his answers than those of the other candidates. Next time, just ask, "Mr. Cain, why do you think you won?" It's not that difficult.
One Point of View
Submitted by Secret Conservative on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 11:18am.
The media are very consistent in approaching the world from one point of view - the East Coast liberal point of view. They truly cannot understand that those of us in "flyover country" are sick to death of Washington politicians throwing our money away and trying to "Nannystate" us into subservience. They think that their way is the only way, the "true" and "reasonable" way. They even believe that they are NOT liberals!
So they decided from the start that RINO Romney was the Republican "frontrunner," even though in 2008 he only really had support in New England and Michigan (a legacy from his father) and fell apart in the rest of the country. Then Rick Perry jumped into the fray, and they saw him as "kind of palatable" because he USED to be one of them, so he can't POSSIBLY be one of those right-wing nuts. They can live with Romney and Perry being the "frontrunners."
But then Herman Cain, who they've never heard of, and who is the absolute poster guy of the conservative movement, blows their pre-selected RINO candidates out of the water in Florida. So do they take another look at Cain? Do they consider that his message resonates with "flyover people?" Do they think for one minute that maybe Cain is who we've been waiting for? Nope! Cain has to be labeled as the candidate who got the votes because the voters are miffed at Romney and Perry. One writer actually said that Cain's big win in Florida means that the Republicans really want Chris Christie, another RINO.
Could they ever put aside their liberal rose-colored bias glasses and see that the Repubs who voted in the Florida straw poll did not vote against something, they voted FOR Cain!
Riiiiight....
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 11:43am.
...Because we all know Florida is such a hotbed of conservatism, what with the millions of transplanted New Yawkas, and whatnot.
That was a lovely takedown you wrote about flawed media thinking....of course, we all know it's an AGENDA. But it is rather amusing (and no longer working). I pointed it out yesterday, but it bears repeating:
Florida straw polls indicated huge wins for Marco Rubio last time around, when Charlie Crist was the media darling, who had a 30 point polling lead at the time. Ahem.....we're not calling the Rino McCrist "Senator" today, are we?
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Another MSM talking point...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 12:47pm.
"protest vote." I wonder when Ann and the MSM will step it up to "temper tantrum!" Maybe that will be the 2012 headline when obarry is done.
The MSM also said that NY-9 was a protest vote. Nevada was a protest vote. BUT the Wisconsin recall election? THAT wasn't a protest vote? It fits the MSM definition of protest vote!
As Rush said today... The TEA Party voted for Cain. Now they are sexists!
Yes, it's a protest vote.
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 1:28pm.
Let's see, Scott Brown was a protest vote for dear departed Teddy dying. (Obamacare)
Nevada was a protest vote against hot weather. (Harry Reid)
NY-9 was a protest against sleazy behavior by the weeny Weiner. (Obama)
And Herman Cain's result was a protest vote against the field in general. (RINOs).
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the voice of the media....
Submitted by CarlosS on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 11:20am.
I am sure the media would like nothing better than to pick the Republican Presidential candidate like they did last time around. That's not going to happen.
I have supported Herman Cain since I first heard him speak months ago and will continue to do so. He's a Washington outsider, with superb business sense including the sense to listen to advisors.
I applaud his winning this straw poll over the media's objections
It's interesting and very
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 11:20am.
It's interesting and very revealing to witness the spin from the liberal MSM whenever things do not go the way they want or when it doesn't fit their liberal agenda. Herman Cain winning the Florida straw poll fits both scenarios. And the liberal MSM can't stand it.
Alan Keyes was the first.
Submitted by Karma on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 11:22am.
Herman Cain is the second.
Alan Keyes was the first candidate that I ever donated money to. Herman Cain will be the second. If he is still in the running at primary time, he would get my vote because his views are more similar to mine than any of the other current candidates. It will not be a protest vote or a wasted vote. It will be my vote.
Wait, he's black?
Submitted by Ed Gregory on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 11:29am.
How long before one of the lefty talking heads starts questioning whether Republicans even know that Herman Cain is black? Because after all, a party so deeply rooted in racism would never do such a thing.
Hear that grinding noise?
Submitted by kata on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 11:30am.
I think the a gear in the MSM machine has slipped.
Wrong, kata
Submitted by goodone91 on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 2:51pm.
It's the MSM grinding their teeth.
Their theory is the "protestors" all got behind the same guy?
Submitted by Great Debater on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 11:56am.
Ann Curry is basically saying that Cain won (and it was by a BIG margin) because delegates were unhappy with the top candidates and protested by not voting for either of the top 2. However, there's SEVEN other candidates ... but the protest voters ALL got behind Cain. That's their theory? Well if so, how did all these crack reporters not have a clue that it was getting organized and could happen?
Or perhaps it's just really simple: 37.1% of the delegates came to the conclusion that Cain would be the best candidate?
Gee, if the LSM (Lame Stream
Submitted by moonjohn on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 12:43pm.
Gee, if the LSM (Lame Stream Media) wanted to know why delegates voted for Cain, why don't they sent out reporters to ask them why they voted for Cain.
Sorry, I forgot.
They sent all their reporters to Alaska to find out whom Sarah Palin slept with when she was a teenager.
And the...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 12:59pm.
55 gallon drum... Good luck with that.
As Dan Rather said, "Fake but Accurate", and the LSM doesn't want the truth to interfere with their agenda.
people are starting to finally figure out that the MSM is a prop
Submitted by wall street john on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 1:18pm.
for the communist party. The problem is that McCarthy was about 60 years ahead of his time
Ann, Rosie needs a date on line 4................
Submitted by Tomorama on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 1:21pm.
"Some have said", "It has been reported in some circles", "there are those that say"....................
That is what the left uses when there is nobody saying it, but the leftust media THINKS IT.
They need a fake boogeyman.
I have never said this in my life, but I love Herman Cain.
Ideas, plans, straight forward, smart, wise and has a bit of an edge...
DID I MENTION SUCCESSFUL?
I Am Anne Curry, Queen of the Imbeciles
Submitted by Motormouth KOS on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 4:24pm.
CURRY: Duhhh, I am so stupid I should be shot.
CAIN: Thank you, I have no argument with with that.
CURRY: Where is Illinois? Is it in my empty head?
CAIN: No, that looks like oatmeal.
CURRY: Do you know why I wear keepads?
CAIN: Might that have something to do with your paycheck?
CURRY: Duhhh.
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It was BUSH's fault! No? How
Submitted by pfwag on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 7:10pm.
It was BUSH's fault!
No?
How about global warming?
The media has gotten to the
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 7:28pm.
The media has gotten to the point where I can only think of this movie A Face in the Crowd.