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NBC Brings On Hurricane Hypers to Deny Hyping Irene

By Kyle Drennen | August 29, 2011 | 13:00

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On Monday's NBC Today, co-host Matt Lauer introduced a panel discussion on whether media coverage of Hurricane Irene was overdone by proclaiming: "Was this storm over-hyped? In some ways, it's a one-sentence argument, this storm killed more than 20 people and 4 million people are without power, and clearly there's misery and destruction. How could it have been over-hyped?"

Weatherman Al Roker completely dismissed the notion: "You look at the predictions, you look at the track, which was right on the money. And it is a Category 3 storm. There is no – there's no argument here....The preparations –  everything that was done, I would say we should do over again if we get the same scenario." Weather Channel Meteorologist Jim Cantore chimed in: "How many more times do we have to play pictures [of flooding] in Vermont?"

Lauer asked Weather Channel meteorologist Bryan Norcross, "You hear people complaining about the government reaction to this, where there were these evacuations of some 300,000 people in lower Manhattan, a million people along the Jersey shore and they say, 'We didn't have to leave our homes.' How would you respond?" Norcross argued: "Well, the fact is, Matt, if I were to say to you that there's a one in ten chance that you're going to die if you don't fix that wheel on your car when you leave the studio this morning, probably you'd fix it and most people would fix it. But not everybody would."

Roker, Cantore, and Norcross were all guilty of over-hyping the storm as it approached the east coast. On Thursday's Nightly News, anchor Brian Williams turned to Norcross and described him as "a veteran hurricane specialist, very mindful of how much of a history-maker this storm could be." Norcross then declared: "We don't think that a significant probably hurricane of a lifetime type event can be avoided....we don't see how a major, major significant hurricane event can be avoided."

Later on the same broadcast, Cantore told Williams: "Well, it's kind of unthinkable and hard to imagine, Brian. Back in 1960, right where I'm standing, there was 11 feet of water over my head from a hurricane named Donna. And, again, that was a storm that went to our east. So there's very little room for error here....This will be a multi-hazard hurricane..."

On Friday's Today, Roker announced: "It comes up as a Category 2 up along the coast; however, it may still intensify because conditions are right for that right now. So by later this afternoon, could be a Category 3 storm...continues to hug the coast. And this is probably one of the most dangerous paths if it continues. Comes onshore in New York City or Long Island as a Category 2 storm." He concluded: "This could be – we're just stressing 'could be'...a catastrophic event up and down the Eastern Seaboard for 65 million Americans."

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Here is a full transcript of the August 29 panel discussion on Today:

7:13AM ET

MATT LAUER: Let's bring back in Al, along with the Weather Channel's Jim Cantore and Bryan Norcross. Good morning to all of you. Jim and Al, let's start with you. And here's the argument, was this storm over-hyped? In some ways, it's a one-sentence argument, this storm killed more than 20 people and 4 million people are without power, and clearly there's misery and destruction. How could it have been over-hyped? And yet people still question it. Why?

AL ROKER: You look at the predictions, you look at the track, which was right on the money. And it is a Category 3 storm. There is no – there's no argument here.

LAUER: So what's bugging people? Because there are some people who are bugged by this? What's bugging them?

JIM CANTORE: If we could make half the progress with intensity forecasts as we've made with track forecasts, this would be – this would be better, but we didn't do that. And we thought this was going to be a Cat 4 coming to the Outer Banks and then eventually a Cat 2 to the south of New York, that's the big difference.

LAUER: And the fact of the matter is – Bryan, I'll get you in here in a second – the fact of the matter is the same people who are yelling that this storm was over-hyped might have been yelling, had you downplayed this storm, and it had been more severe than you thought.

ROKER: Think about this. This is a – a minimal Category 1 storm. 23 people have lost their lives. How many more people would have died or could have died if this had been a stronger storm? The preparations –  everything that was done, I would say we should do over again if we get the same scenario.

CANTORE: How many more times do we have to play pictures in Vermont?

LAUER: And yet, Bryan, you hear people complaining about the government reaction to this, where there were these evacuations of some 300,000 people in lower Manhattan, a million people along the Jersey shore and they say, 'We didn't have to leave our homes.' How would you respond?

BRYAN NORCROSS: Well, the fact is, Matt, if I were to say to you that there's a one in ten chance that you're going to die if you don't fix that wheel on your car when you leave the studio this morning, probably you'd fix it and most people would fix it. But not everybody would. And if you equate it in that kind of way, you know, the fact is that we don't know for sure, but the odds were significant enough of a threat to life, and more than property, but especially to life, if we didn't take action, that maybe one in ten chance.

LAUER: Alright, but Al-

NORCROSS: Would you deal with a one in ten chance of life and death? Most people would not.

LAUER: Al, is there a chance, though, that people who left their homes and were inconvenienced by the evacuations and the shut-downs of transportation systems during this storm are going to be less likely to leave their homes the next time they get warned of a storm approaching?

ROKER: Of course.

LAUER: And might that not put them in harm's way?

ROKER: It absolutely will. But they need to keep in mind, again, 23 people are dead. And you know, look, if there's a bear outside your door and I see it and I don't say anything to you. I'm irresponsible. Doesn't mean the bear is going to get in there and get you but you need to know that it's there.

LAUER: There's another aspect to them, Jim. When this storm made landfall in New Jersey and New York. We were seeing reporters in the field talking about sustained winds of 45 miles an hour, 55 miles an hour. Now in all the years we've been reporting on hurricanes, that is not a Category 1 hurricane. In your opinion, did the National Hurricane Center keep this storm labeled a Category 1 hurricane simply to keep people afraid and safe? And is that appropriate?

CANTORE: No, I don't think they did at all. I mean, there was always discussions, probably right through this, especially the second half of this thing, about how if you went up with height, there were very much stronger winds, and those hurricane winds and there was a chance-

LAUER: But that's not in the past how we've labeled hurricanes. When they hit Florida and the coast of – the Atlantic coast, we call them Category 1 if it's 75 miles an hour, sustained and above. That's not what happened in this one. Why?

ROKER: No, but as it's coming up the coast it was still technically a hurricane. And you have to make sure that people are prepared for this. Now, is it going to die down? Yes, it did. But on the back side of the storm, like in Long Beach, we were getting 65, 70-mile-per-hour wind gusts. So, you know, you absolutely have to err on the side of caution.

CANTORE: Out on the Battery, the strongest winds came after the storm moved to our north. So same thing here.

LAUER: Al Roker, Jim Cantore, Bryan Norcross, guys good job yesterday and thanks for doing this with us this morning, appreciate it.

ROKER: Thank you, Matt.

LAUER: And what do you think about this? Was Hurricane Irene over-hyped? Head to our website, Today.com, let us know. We'll tell you the results of what you had to say.

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Listen..........I'm happy

Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 1:13pm.

Listen..........I'm happy that Irene wasn't some hideous monster, and I know that it's created a lot of damage and trouble in various areas - but I've been sitting over here for the whole week, and watching and listening to the news with somewhat of a jaundiced eye and a cynical mindset - between the earthquake and the hurricane/tropica storm, the MSM has just been going off the deep end, and whipping up as much panic and mayhem as they possibly can - in my opinion.

My maIn experience in this field is that we DID have a monster over here in 1992, and nobody really even knew much about it until it was on us - and by then it was too late. Plus, I live on a small island, so there's really nowhere to go. i realize that there are milllions of people on the eastern seaboard, so it's a different situation - but I still think that the media was going over the top with their endless hype........that's how it looks from my perspective.

But.....for anyone who suffered at the fate of Irene - I can totally emphasize with you.

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these...

Submitted by retrocon on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 1:44pm.

"These are not the droids you're looking for."

But seriously, i feel very bad for those affected, will give to help.

Here's the thing... within a week, this will have gone in the other direction. They will say that this was soooo well handled by Obama, they will downplay media hype, they will compare it to Katrina (and the alleged failure by the Bush admin), they will lose sight of any and all local efforts.

It will be big check mark in the 2012 Obama campaign "Handled Natural Disaster: check."

And, here's the news teaser: "Obama single handedly saves East Coast from major storm, progaganda at 11:00."

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retrocon

Submitted by Agnostic on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 1:46pm.

because everyone has already forgotten all about those white people who lost so much in the floods

. . Socialist = Modern Liberal = Parasitoid
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Another excuse why the economy hasn't recovered

Submitted by Rover on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 1:54pm.

Next year, the effects of this hurricane will be ANOTHER in Obama's list of reasons why the economy hasn't recovered. Not because his policies are bad, no, of course not, nothing to see here, move along...

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This over-hyped event will eventually kill people.

Submitted by c5then on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 2:09pm.

Those who evacuated, because they were scared into it, will remember that it was all hype and hyperbole. Maybe not the next time, but soon there will come a true dangerous storm of a Cat 3 or Cat 4 that threatens the east cost and many people, remembering the hype that never comes true, will choose to ride it out and be killed. Hyping the little storms does not teach people to listen to you. That's why we have the children's story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf".

It would be far better if the media and the officials would tell people the real actual truth instead of trying to make themselves seem more important. Mayor Bloomburg even went so far as to tell people that remaining in the evacuation zones was "illegal". I wonder which law he was referring to?

The lost revenue in NYC that resulted from the MTA not opperating on Sunday probably completely eclipsed any damage done by the hurricane.

 

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Forget an "Alien Invasion" as a Stimulous...

Submitted by Chris Norman on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 2:14pm.

Well, all the hype did serve a good purpose - it distracted the nation for a few days, away from the disastrous economy. And think of all the jobs removing debris and repairs this will create. Paul Krugman is probably writing a column right now, proposing more natural disasters. Since these events are all "caused by man-made global warming", you'd think Krugman might propose a thousandfold increase in our carbon footprints.

Let's make the 2012 campaign: "The War on Error"
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Well it's always good to keep the masses

Submitted by hbnolikeee on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 2:47pm.

as distracted as you can. This way they won't have time to focus on what a crap job being done on our behalf in DC. It's the let's misdirect the morons tactic.

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President Downgrade, Why Did You Cancel Vacation?

Submitted by Motormouth KOS on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 2:51pm.

1. Moosechelle didn't want to stay there if it was going to rain?

2. The Idiot-in-Chief ran out of golf balls after shanking 8 dozen into the water?

3. Nobody would invite you to their clambake?

4. Everybody on Martha's Vineyard is racist?

5. Your Federal Credit Card got rejected?

 

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the bear outside the door.

Submitted by kata on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 3:04pm.

Who makes better decisions - The frightened person or the prepared and accurately informed one? NBC chooses the former and decides if it cannot be the former, that it must mean that they cannot choose the latter.

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Obama needed a disaster

Submitted by ohio granny on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 4:06pm.

Obama needed a disaster to prove how competent he is (not). And of course the MSM will go all out to make it happen even if there is no disaster. The victims do not matter as long as it helps the "Won"

The damage from the floods is severe and the loss of life devastating for families of the victims. But for the MSM and obama supporters to politicize it is absolutely awful.

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His entire presidency is a disaster of epic proportions.

Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 5:20pm.

He went retro with Carter-style economic stagflation and malaise, congressional gridlock with zero leadership or ideas from the executive branch and he runs away on vacation every time he has to make a decision more complicated than mashed potatoes or pasta with his Kobe steak.

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If he doesn't get down here

Submitted by ricklail on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 9:04pm.

If he doesn't get down here soon and get the cable back on for many of his brothers he is going to lose favor. This is a true story. An Alderman in New Bern that represents a black ward said that he many of his constituents were worried about when their cable was going to come back. That Alderman works here as a correctional office.  

By the way, it has been about 72 hours since Irene began to lay it to us. I have yet to see trucks loaded with free government give away supplies. Haven't hear a thing about FEMA either. Were is the outcry from the media? Oh, this area is very conservative. We keep sending Walter B Jones back to DC. Obama doesn't like us because we are mostly white. He's a racist. I don't need his help and really don't want it. Insurance will take care of my losses.

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News nets overdid it too

Submitted by nkviking75 on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 4:30pm.

I've never lived in a hurricane zone, but I couldn't help but wonder if the national news networks were overdoing it. Some coverage was necessary, but it seems to me the information one really needed would most likely come via local news outlets. They'd have the best handle on what their viewers/listeners needed to know. Another think that irked me on Fox News (the only news net I watched) was graphic overkill. There was a map that alternated between radar and the projected path. There were current stats. And across the bottom 1/4 was a plug for the foxnews.com/weather page. It wasted a lot of pixels. As for the other, have they forgotten that we don't all watch on big flat screns? The material on the right hand side was nearly impossible to make out on a 13" analog TV.

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Roker's bear.

Submitted by okiehawk44 on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 4:40pm.

Al Roker says you have a bear outside your cabin door. OK! Say you do and say you operate all the newschannels and you have them all on your cell phone as you breathlessly do a moment by moment recitation of the bear's activities outside your cabin door but after several hours with the bear out in the woods and you know it's a bear because you've seen one before you hear it on the front porch and oh my goodness you are scared but you stay on the cell phone for hours more listening to the bear knocking around out there and maybe just maybe knocking over your wife's geranium pot but still you remain stalwart Al and then you look outside on the 3rd day and see that the giant huge humongous bear was really only a cub and it seems to be heading back into the woods but you stay stalwart Roker because you still hear sounds coming from outside and on the 4th day you look out again and you see a raccoon doing what raccoons do but still you stay with the story of the GREAT BEAR and your bravery throughout is astonishing but then again you don't want to say you were HAD or that you weren't as brave as those who fought the midwest floods for weeks earlier this summer or those who were without electricity for weeks this winter or...

The truth is that those of you who control the news outlets -- ALL OF YOU -- spent 4 days and nights covering a low category hurricane that also contained a lot of rain. Why? IMHO because none of you wanted to be the first to let go and instead doubled and tripled down on a non-story.

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Being in South Texas, we get

Submitted by marpel on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 5:09pm.

Being in South Texas, we get hurricanes from time to time. A cat 1 or 2 can bring a lot of rain and flooding and downed trees, but I knew they were hyping this storm. It sells ads.

In the mid 1980's Hurricane Glory (I think) was going to hit the east coast and at the time I was living in NY. Al Roker was the local weatherman at that time and he was practically screaming that there was going to be a disaster. We got a few gusts of wind and no rain. I remember my husband being furious because he took the day off and he really didn't have to. So, Al, you tend to cry wolf to sell ad time.

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Roker has the same meteorologist credentials as me:

Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 7:17pm.

None whatsoever.

One thing that struck me throughout the nonstop coverage of the storm was the universal snootiness of the field reporters who felt it was their holy obligation to chastise and humiliate anyone they interviewed who did not heed the advice of evacuating... especially in the case of lower Manhattan, where apparently about 250,000 out of the 300,000 Bloomberg "ordered" to get out of town totally ignored him.

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I wondered about that too

Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 7:52pm.

I had wondered if BloomingIdiot would have gone so far to go door to door with armed forces to order people to leave.  It'll come to that with him one of these days.

Good God almighty, this was just a ridiculous situation.  The flooding didn't surprise me, I had expected that, as well as some wind and the storm surge, all those were givens.  What wasn't given was the expectation that they were going to say it was going to be a deadly killer of the likes they haven't seen before (if they ignore 1893 and 1921 and etc of the same area).  Anyone with layman's understanding of hurricanes know the storm would have weakened significantly the further north it went.  And it did!

But even more so, Roker's compatriots in TWC were faking how strong the wind was (as seen in 1:30PM CST broadcast) and other channels plus the RAW IDIOCY of that one guy standing against the "sea form" full of raw sewage(forever recorded in history).....they have no shame by not admitting they were not only wrong about the whole damn thing, but that they even tried to fake how it was on national TV.

Btw, an intern at the Weather Channel would have more credentials than Roker.

What a bunch of damn fools!

-Jon

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It is NYC

Submitted by stunned on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 9:22pm.

These media types flipped out because the storm was heading for the city where they live and work. A cat 3 would have devastated the city and the surrounding areas but a storm like this does more damage inland and that is the story they missed. The real problem here is the inland flooding which has already blown away the 1984 records in towns all over NY, NJ, NH PA and Mass. Bridges, roads, neighborhoods, and whole towns are under water.

Here in the Highlands of NJ I drove down RT 287 south today and saw why RT 287 north was closed, the guardrail as well as part of the right lane is gone and that highway will be closed for days. It took me 85 min to travel the normal 35 min to an appointment and 75min to travel home again (thanks to Tom Tom). More than 1/4 of town still has no power and homes with wells have no water unless they have a generator. Hundreds of homes within 20 min of mine are under water and some NEVER seen water before and the owners have been in them for 15-20 years. The real story and warnings should have been the inland flooding and NOT the shore damage and the hyping will cause folks to ignore the warnings next time around. Most of the powerlines came down AFTER the rain ended and a wicked wind kicked up for 8 hours plus (never saw anything like it before).

Ironicly that a group of orthodox Jewish women and children ended up trapped in the Catskills without water as they didn't realize that the water came from a well and without electricty there would be no water all because they evacuated from NYC. Another family of 4 who took Amtrack upstate ended up in Woodstock holding up signs looking for a ride back to NYC when the trains stopped running. It seems you were safer in the city than out in the mountains.

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