CBS: ‘Dangerous Precedent’ to Make Obama Speech Optional for Students

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Katie Couric, CBS While reporting on President Obama’s Tuesday nationwide address to students on Tuesday’s CBS Evening News, correspondent Dean Reynolds highlighted one school that made it mandatory viewing: "At Betsy Ross Elementary in Forest Park, Illinois, today, they did not think the children were at risk....Opting out would set a dangerous precedent according to officials here."

Louis Cavallo, the superintendent of the school district located just outside Obama’s hometown of Chicago, explained to Reynolds: "We do not allow parents to decide what is to be taught and what is not to be taught on a day to day basis." Reynolds touted positive student reactions: "Many students who heard the President today gave him good marks." One girl declared: "I thought that the speech was really, really good." Another described: "He encouraged us to do our best at everything that we try to do." To which Reynolds added: "And who would argue with that?"

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At the top of the broadcast, anchor Katie Couric called the speech a "back-to-school pep talk" and later introduced the report by lamenting "that’s created a bit of a political schoolyard brawl." Reynolds began his report by describing a Dallas school that made student viewing of the speech opitional. He then briefly mentioned the source of the controversy: "For days talk radio critics and others have charged Mr. Obama would try to brainwash the young....The attacks led the White House to revise a lesson plan accompanying the speech, which encouraged students to help the President."

Here is a full transcript of the segment:

6:30PM TEASE:

KATIE COURIC: Also tonight, a back-to-school pep talk.

BARACK OBAMA: Every single one of you has something to offer. You have a responsibility to yourself to discover what that is.

6:33PM SEGMENT:

KATIE COURIC: Now about that other presidential address that’s created a bit of a political schoolyard brawl. He offered students across the country words of encouragement today as they begin a new school year. Sounds simple enough, but even that was controversial. Here’s our national correspondent Dean Reynolds.

DEAN REYNOLDS: At a middle school near Dallas this morning, parents were divided on whether their children should hear the President of the United States.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN [PARENT]: Politics shouldn’t be brought into the school system.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN B [PARENT]: I’m fine with her hearing it here. I mean, he is our president.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN [PARENT]: My child will not see it, no.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN C [TALK RADIO HOST]: Pull your kids out of school on September 8.

REYNOLDS: For days talk radio critics and others have charged Mr. Obama would try to brainwash the young.

MAN C: Folks, this is indoctrination.

REYNOLDS: The attacks led the White House to revise a lesson plan accompanying the speech, which encouraged students to help the President.

JIM GREER [CHAIRMAN, FLORIDA REPUBLICAN PARTY]: That was wrong. That was inappropriate. They should never have done it. And they recognized that because they took the lesson plans down off the web site.

REYNOLDS: Some schools said kids could stay away if their parents felt that strongly about it.

UNIDENTIFIED GIRL [STUDENT]: My parents are excusing me from class and I’ll probably leave campus so I’m not – so I don’t have to be here.

REYNOLDS: But in the speech, beamed to schools nationwide from a high school in Virginia, Mr. Obama delivered a rather common sense pep talk on the need to study and stay in school

OBAMA: What you make of your education will decide nothing less than the future of this country. The future of America depends on you.

REYNOLDS: Nor was he the first president to address students.

RONALD REAGAN: We need, in other words, to introduce education to some free market principles.

REYNOLDS: At Betsy Ross Elementary in Forest Park, Illinois, today, they did not think the children were at risk.

LOUIS CAVALLO [SUPERINTENDENT, FOREST PARK, ILLINOIS SCHOOL DISTRICT]: It’s a learning experience. And every kid should have the opportunity.

REYNOLDS: At this school district in the Chicago suburbs, the President’s remarks were considered a lesson, attendance was mandatory for first graders through eighth graders. Opting out would set a dangerous precedent according to officials here.

CAVALLO: We do not allow parents to decide what is to be taught and what is not to be taught on a day to day basis.

REYNOLDS: Many students who heard the President today gave him good marks.

UNIDENTIFIED GIRL B [STUDENT]: I thought that the speech was really, really good.

UNIDENTIFIED GIRL C [STUDENT]: He encouraged us to do our best at everything that we try to do.

REYNOLDS: And who would argue with that? Dean Reynolds, CBS News, Forest Park, Illinois.

—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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That's how brainwashing works

That's how brainwashing is accomplished.  Exclude the parents from the decision, don't give the kids any choice about viewing the speech, isolate and ridicule the parents.  It's been done before in other countries.

I'm really beginning to believe that we're losing our freedom bit by bit.

 

"I support the President but not his policies" - Blonde

Next - "teacher, Mommy is NOT using the curly lightbulbs!

and I've been telling her you said she had to or else my puppy will die and she still won't do it!!!"

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MSM = head in sand

They really don't care to see the big picture or what people were objecting to.  They can't look at history and learn a thing.  Just plain partisan propaganda from the left.   M-B

CBS... ...Enough

CBS...

...Enough said.

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

Ultimately, and I am sure

Ultimately, and I am sure it's happening already, even the "followers" of the network news will get fed up by the obvious hypocrisy and double standards in the reporting, and just leave.

Louis Cavallo: "We do

Louis Cavallo: "We do not
allow parents to decide what is to be taught and what is not to be
taught on a day to day basis."

You left out his follow up quote:  ha ha

"But we have no problem with this White House deciding for us"

"We do not allow parents to

"We do not allow parents to decide what is to be taught and what is not to be taught on a day to day basis."

There is your "Dangerous Precedent," especially if it's the government doing the "teaching."

-Dave

Even when the government tries to kiss you, it is just a prelude to a good screwing. -Neal Boortz 

Re: "We do not allow parents"

"We will, however accept parents tax money to spread White House propaganda."

Parents are soooo stoopid.

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

R D Helm, Are you

R D Helm,

Are you suggesting that we require every teacher in the country to have their daily lesson plans approved by a panel of parents before each school day?

Parents have the right to

Parents have the right to oversee the curriculum of the schools in their district.  Also, teachers have to turn in their lesson plans at the end of the year, so that they can be evaluated by the administration to see that they are conforming to the curriculum, which is approved by the taxpayers (also parents if they live in apartments and don't pay taxes directly to the district).

Radical1979, My question

Radical1979,

My question wasn't about who has what rights - it was about the practicality of having daily inspections.

That is the job of the

That is the job of the principal, and with new or questionable it will be done.  Lesson plans are usually done at least a week in advance, so if it was done for a specific reason (not just to harrass the teacher because mommy doesn't like her kid's grade) it's entirely practical.

Radical1979, We are

Radical1979,

We are getting farther away from my original question to R D Helm, which had to do with parents deciding, on a daily basis, what should be taught in schools (assuming that's what he was suggesting).

hydro,

My main point was that children belong to their parents, not to the government.

A government agent saying that they do not "allow" parents to make certain decisions regarding their own children really irked me, as I do not believe a government agent, and that is essentially what these people are, has the authority to tell a parent to bugger off.

I do not support the idea of "daily inspections," as that would be most unworkable, but I do believe that parents should have a certain amount of input into the education of their own children.

I also believe any parent should have the right to have their children excluded from certain school activies should they find them objectionable, particularly those activities that are decidedly non-traditional, as this one clearly was.

-Dave

Even when the government tries to kiss you, it is just a prelude to a good screwing. -Neal Boortz 

R D Helm, I totally agree

R D Helm,

I totally agree with all of that.

hydrodynDM

  Parents were "allowed" to cleanse the school of any mention of Christmas, Easter, or any other "religious holiday" and in my daughter's school (years ago) actually came into the classrooms around the holiday time to make sure the holiday parties didn't have any symbols of the holidays they were supposed to represent.  They seem to not have a problem with it depending on who the parents are and what they are for/against.

sherylisims, Unfortunately

sherylisims,

Unfortunately, in our litigious society, threats of discrimination and lawsuits are powerful enough tools for some parents to push things like what you are mentioning onto schools.

I honestly don't think most teachers and principals have it out for religious holidays - I just think the jerk weeds who do are very loud and are not afraid to threaten schools with legal action. So the schools cave.

That's just my opinion, of course.

hydro

  I agree.  In this school, the teachers and principal were NOT the ones who were pushing for the removal of the "Christmas" trees on the cupcakes (The cupcakes were thrown away rather than given to the children because they had green triangles on them) It was (as you called them) the jerkweed parents who were so concerned that having a Christmas party might scar the kids or make them go running to Jesus or something.

And this is the ironic part...

  ... The Christmas tree isn't even a religious symbol (at least not of the Christian religion.)  I think it came about because of the winter solstace or some other (not Christian) ancient tradition.  I know Christians who won't have a tree in their house because they believe it takes away from the meaning of Christmas.

Hydro, you are off the deep end here.... waaaay off.

You are insisting 'daily inspections' not anyone else.  To answer your very easy question, yes. 

Parents have the right to oversee curiculum.   Are you kidding that they should not???

To even hint at that, like CBS, is very extreme.

pahuber, Here, let me

pahuber,

Here, let me remind you of what my original post was:

R D Helm,

Are you suggesting that we require every teacher in the country to have
their daily lesson plans approved by a panel of parents before each
school day?

See - that was me asking R D Helm to clarify what he meant by his original post, something he kindly did above.

If you bothered to read R D Helm's clarification and my response, you would see that I do think parents should have input in school curricula.

What? Just looking for a fight or something?

 

My daughter's school

My daughter's school encouraged parents to volunteer and be present in the classrooms every day.  When one of the teachers refused to let parents in the classroom, she was dismissed after her first year.  It can be done, and this was in a public school, too. 

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

HockeyKid, I see nothing

HockeyKid,

I see nothing wrong with that - as long as their presence doesn't create a distraction or interfere with the teacher's ability to do their job.

My original question was about having lesson plans approved on a daily basis. If that is what R H Helm was suggesting, I don't think that would be practical.

hydro,

I have several friends who teach in government schools here in the Atlanta area, at the elementary and middle-school levels.

They have told me that they do not produce the lesson plans themselves, as was done back in the old days, as these "plans" now come down from the federal Dept. of Education.

I doubt most parents even know what is contained within them.

-Dave

Even when the government tries to kiss you, it is just a prelude to a good screwing. -Neal Boortz 

Actually, he was commenting on a comment from an assinine

principal at a chicago (lower case deliberate) school who was smugly letting us know that we parents will not dictate a damn thing.

"If that is what R H Helm was suggesting, I don't think that would be practical."

Unless something deemed controversial is going to be permitted then a letter needs to notify parents before hand.  Unfortunately, many controversial things are permitted if they are liberal (e.g., public schools day of silence).  No notification, but they go ahead with it anyway.  Imagine that...wow.

 

I know what your question

I know what your question was.  It's called a "straw man", and we've burned it to cinders and handed it back for you to sprinkle over your serving of crow.  Enjoy. 

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

HockeyKid, My question to

HockeyKid,

My question to R D Helm was to clarify what he meant by his original post. He was kind enough to respond here.

There was no attempt by me to suggest that he was saying something he wasn't - which is what I guess you mean by your "straw man" comment.

But for the sake or laughs, where exactly did my "straw man" comment or question or whatever get burned to cinders. I ask because the person I originally posted to (you know, R D Helm) had no problem clarifying what he meant in his original post.

What - like pahuber - are just out trolling for a fight or something?

BTW,  what was President

BTW,  what was President Bush doing while the United States was under attack on 9/11?

Sorry Goldbar

We don't feel like playing with you today.

Your question is too inane to address.

Van Jones is a Quitter - FS

He veered into the wrong

He veered into the wrong playground again CA.

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

Hmmm... let's see, Nugget...

Attending your 1st Birthday Party?

goldbar, Come on, man. If

goldbar,

Come on, man. If you're not even gonna try anymore, then maybe it's time we (sob) thought about going our own (sob) separate ways.

As Yogi Berra would say...

"When you come to a fork in the road, take it!"

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

DANGEROUS READING MATERIAL...

 I guess Bush 43 reading "My Pet Goat" was a form of brainwashing the kids in the room that day. I suppose you would want Obama to read "Rules For Radicals" to the kiddies instead?

Look, the President should encourage kids TO read, the President should NOT tell kids WHAT TO read. There is a difference, & thanks for playing.

 

"...How blind can you be, don't you see...

...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."  

Nightwish

goldbar, even you can't be

goldbar, even you can't be so stupid as to equate visiting a single school and reading to one class' students with a nationally televised program complete with lesson plan and follow-up "accountability assignments".   

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

HK,

LOL-Wanna bet?

-Dave

Even when the government tries to kiss you, it is just a prelude to a good screwing. -Neal Boortz 

Touche.  "Beauty is only

Touche. 

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

goldbar - when you are a senior citizen, will you continue

to blame George Bush for everything that didn't fall your way???  (Heaven help us if you ARE a senior citizen and think this way!)  Get over it...he is NOT relevant to this discussion!

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Reading a book to one small classroom of children. What in

the hell is your point?

Looks like Binky Bravehearts buddy is back.

goldbar is a lying partisan hack and here is the proof

The coward goldbar has to ask a question like that on September 11, when we are remembering all those killed in the attacks.

Write 100 times: Yes we can...

"He encouraged us to do our best at everything that we try to do." To which Reynolds added: "And who would argue with that?"

Except if you're planning to travel to DC to protest against him on 9/12. Then you can go screw yourself, and fail.

Oh, and if you have any crazy ideas about working in private enterprise when you grow up, the First Lady advises against that selfish notion. Go get a government job with the rest of the drones.

Repeat after me: "We're all individuals. Praise be to the one Obama."

Conservatives believe in the laws of Supply and Demand. Leftists operate with the Big Lie and Command.

Jack... Exactly... They

Jack...

Exactly...

They want us all Obots.

Not gonna happen.

I wished more than anything I could be in DC on the 12th!

...thank God for Fox and the internet, because we already know what the rest of the SRM will do with their propaganda agneda when reporting this.

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

bt -- there's won't be any

bt -- there's won't be any straight coverage from the the Washington Pravda (or the rest) on the 12th.

But there will be story #128 on Bob McDonnell about something damning he wrote in kindergarten.

Conservatives believe in the laws of Supply and Demand. Leftists operate with the Big Lie and Command.

"But there will be story

"But there will be story #128 on Bob McDonnell about something damning he wrote in kindergarten"

Do not joke...these "jokes" seems to come true...

I can see it now:

"...Bob McDonnell, it has been discovered, once made a disparaging comment about his teacher, a minority, while in kindergarten when he felt he was sent to "time out" unfairly.   This damaging revelation is certain to further rock the tainted McDonnell campaign..."

 

Not only that, he undoubtedly pulled Kathy Smith's pigtails

while in first grade and that is nothing more than pure sexual harassment!  Hang Him High!!!!

So glad school days are long behind me...imagine all the fun things we girls did to the boys and vice versa.  We'd all have records in today's world!

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CC,

LOL-Yeah, and I bet he snatched a few cookies out of the cookie jar when he was six and nobody was looking.

Grounds for impeachment, that would be.  :-^)

-Dave

Even when the government tries to kiss you, it is just a prelude to a good screwing. -Neal Boortz 

Oh yea....?

Well George Bush...Uh, Dick Cheney...Uh, Teabaggers...Er, Uh Haliburton...Ummmm, Rush Limbaugh...Uhhhhh right wing terrorists....Ummmmm Timothy McVeigh...Uhhhhh, torture...Errrrrrrrr,Uhhhhhh,Ummmmmmmmmm!!!!!!

Talking points...I need irrelevant talking points!

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

Sorry, I didn't get a chance

Sorry, I didn't get a chance to log on earlier, so I'm sure this has been covered already, but what was wrong with the speech he gave?  It seemed perfectly harmless.  I woudn't care if Bush gave the same speech, and if a bunch of people were saying that a Bush speech to students was brainwashing, I'd say they were being a little extreme...

O's Speech was Illegal

in its original form with work being assigned for after the fact. The federal government is not allowed to insert itself into the school cirriculum:

it does not matter what Obama talks about because according to U.S. Code 20, Section 3403, the Secretary of Education, or any officer, is forbidden to engage in "any direction, supervision, or control over the curriculum, program of instruction, administration, or personnel of any educational institution, school, or school system." 

I'm pretty sure former

I'm pretty sure former presidents have spoken at schools before.  Plus, the speech was pretty harmless.  I don't know what everybody thought he was going to say - socialism is the way to salvation?

Honestly, we'll never know for certain.

We do know that the concomitant curriculum, fed from the White House to schools via the DEA, was changed to eliminate references to what children could do to help Barack Obama.  Since there was no request in Obama's speech for children to help him, it follows that his speech was also changed.

To sum up my feelings about this situation: I wouldn't trust Barack Obama to walk my dog.  Why would I want him talking to my children when I'm not around?

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

I don't know, because little

I don't know, because little kids still think the president is cool.  I would probably have thought that the president giving a speech to kids across the country was kinda neat at that age.  I mean, Reagan and Bush Sr. were the presidents when I was young and still thought the president was cool, and it clearly didn't have much bearing on my future political leanings.  I think it was just a PR stunt that totally backfired; with the way his poll numbers are looking, he isn't stupid enough to try and pull some coersive trickery with the children of the country while everybody is paying extra close attention to what he's doing.  He probably just figured it would keep people from talking about health care for a few days.  I certainly don't believe that he had any intention of giving something other than a "look how much I care about the children" speech.

In my part of the world, it's a different conversation.

And not just in my household.

It might surprise you just how many children respond negatively to Barack Obama--not because of any parental browbeating, but because the values they've been raised to hold, plus the ones they've independently chosen to embrace, are at odds with Obama's agenda.  There are a lot of child-initiated conversations in this country that sound like this...

He wants to take our money away and give it to people who don't want to work for it?  That's wrong, Daddy.

Yes, it is, my child.

He makes fun of people who have Jesus in their hearts--like us?  That's wrong, Daddy.

Yes, it is, my child.

He thinks it's a good idea to kill babies in their mothers' tummies, instead of letting the baby be born?  That's very wrong, Daddy.

Yes, it is, my child. 

That Barack Obama is a mean man, Daddy.

Yes, he is, my child...

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

Check this out

This isn't really related, but it's funny:

Obama Cue Cards

Very nice, Zip!

Got me laughing with that...

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

bt - try to have some like-minded friends over for a cookout

or something on Saturday just to feel you are a part of this glorious day!  We'll be spending the morning in Hyannis at the Airport Rotary (just a few miles from the Kennedy compound) with hundreds of Americans who are fed up with their loss of liberty!

I know what a good feeling it was to be there in April...first time ever to take part in a public protest.  Everyone was in such good spirits to be surrounded by others who had the same strong belief that something was dreadfully wrong with the direction Obama was taking our country.  Lots of horn honks from the passing cars...a VERY POSITIVE experience and we are looking forward to more of the same Saturday! 

PS  Do you have cookouts in the cold/snow?

PPS  I've been calling the Capitol switchboard EVERY DAY - and it's been busy many times!  We MUST let them hear our voices even though they tell us thanks, but they're voting the opposite of our wishes!

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Hi CC... I'll have to get

Hi CC...

I'll have to get back to you later...too many things going on at home business wise.  ;-)

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

bt,

Don't feel bad, as I will be unable to attend as well.

I just don't have the financial resources for a trip to D.C. right now.

Dammit.

-Dave

Even when the government tries to kiss you, it is just a prelude to a good screwing. -Neal Boortz 

Seriousily

If Obama was not trying to hide something, then....why did he wait so long to release his speech. Could he have not sent it out at the beginning of the controversy? One of even limited intelligence would understand that it only makes sense, then you make those who are supposedly "mistakenly" saying things about you can be made to look stupid. In his case, most people understand he changed what he had planned, and then put it out..typical stupid people in DC it seems. No how bout those other documents we have been looking for Dumbo...

Obama was not trying to hide anything.

It is just that he had six focus groups working overtime trying figure out how to re-write what TOTUS was supposed to say, and that took a while.

- Relying upon the State Run Media for your information is like relying upon an embezzler for your portfolio management.

What do you think he was

What do you think he was trying to hide?  Wasn't this speech going to be broadcast on national television?  It's not like he asked to have a private moment in the closet of the oval office with each kid in the country...

"We do not allow parents to

"We do not allow parents to decide what is to be taught and what is not to be taught on a day to day basis."

OK, so The One's speech was indeed considered curriculum?  I thought it wasn't?

At my school one teacher refused to show it, another was thankful he was in Vegas and didn't have to watch it (and he's a fellow union member and registered Democrat), and our Army JROTC sergeant was all pi$$ed off and said he'd turn the TV on and leave.  I didn't have to deal with it because I didn't have a class at the time.

Contrary to what many think, not all teachers are Libtards.

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.

RR GOP "Contrary to what

RR GOP

"Contrary to what many think, not all teachers are Libtards."

I second that.

 

School "officials" don't

School "officials" don't allow parents input into teachers salaries either. Or hiring or firing. Or input of any kind. But yet, taxes are taken on a confiscatory basis. Try not paying your so called property tax and see what happens. The teachers, thru the power of armed personnel, will confiscate your very domicile. People are deciding they don't want to pay the salaries of people that treat them as cerfs. This eliteism is starting to come to a halt and the leaches don't like it. Well, screw them. They DON'T own me or my children. We are heading for a 2nd revolution to restore the Constitution. The "elites" will run like yellow dogs when an armed populace arises. And we are in the process of rising. Right now my friends.

My daughter didn't see it.

I asked my daughter if they watched it in her class. Actually, I asked her if they watched anything on TV.

Her response: "We have a TV, but we never watch it. The TV isn't for teaching stuff."

(Yes, she's 6, but still...made me smile)

Good for her!  Send that

Good for her!  Send that one to Brian Williams et al. :)

My daughter's high school didn't show it at all.  They actually had things to get done on the first day of school.  I say good on 'em. 

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

parents have no rights?

Wow.. I don't even have kids and this infuriates me.

Parents shouldn't have any say in what their kids are being taught?  When did we switch over to communism? I must have missed that memo.

 

Jan 20, 2009.  "Beauty

Jan 20, 2009. 

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

Oh my God!

"We do not allow parents to decide what is to be taught and what is not to be taught on a day to day basis."

I would be pulling my kids out of that school so quick...

 

"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will
be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for
pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner."
— Malcolm Muggeridge