CBS’s Smith Reviews Oliver Stone Movie: ‘Phenomenal, Phenomenal Stuff’

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Harry Smith and Oliver Stone, CBS As part of the promotion of his new Bush-bashing drama ‘W,’ director Oliver Stone appeared on Tuesday’s CBS Early Show and co-host Harry Smith gushed: "And there are so many interesting portrayals in this, we don't have time to go into them all...Stunning, stunning, stunning ...Phenomenal, phenomenal stuff." Smith even suggested that some people saw the movie as sympathetic to Bush, though not Smith himself: "People -- I was in a screening of this movie just yesterday. This person was walking out, 'my gosh it seemed so sympathetic.' I didn't feel that way, but your hearing that yourself I'm sure."

In response, Stone replied:

I hear it but I think there's a confusion between sympathy and empathy. Empathy means understanding, and as a dramatist it's my job to understand, to walk in the shoes of George W. Bush as best as I can...Sympathize, no. I do think he's hurt this country. I'm a Vietnam veteran. We should not have gone into the Iraq war. We were in three wars, not only Afghanistan and Iraq, but really the war on terror is a major war. You know, we've had an economic meltdown because of it, partly because of the overreach. And this country is in a very dire place and I'm not happy about it...But, you know, people voted for him.

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Stone later added:

You know, it's easy to make fun of George Bush, and he's been an object of comedy for what -- 8 years we've made fun of him...But the truth is, you don't really know much about the man. People think they know him, they have opinions about him but they haven't really walked in his steps, they don't know what happened. Those first three, four years of the presidency were very veiled...Manufactured -- Karl Rove, they kept everything -- only in the last -- from about 2004 the books started to come little by little. Suskind, Woodward, they broke the ice.

Here is the full transcript of the segment:

7:17AM TEASE:

JULIE CHEN: Coming up, director Oliver Stone on his controversial new movie about President Bush.

7:30AM TEASE:

HARRY SMITH: Also ahead this morning, President Bush is not even out of office, already there is a movie about him. Controversial director Oliver Stone is going to join us here in the studio to talk about 'W.'

7:49AM TEASE:

SMITH: You know Oliver Stone, the big movie director, never makes a controversial movie.

CHEN: Never, no.

SMITH: Never ruffles any feathers. He has a brand new movie out, he's going to be in the studio live to talk to us in just a couple of seconds. Look at that, side-by-side pictures of Josh Brolin and President Bush, boy.

CHEN: Amazing.

SMITH: If you were going to blink you almost wouldn't know who's who. And there's a very interesting portrayal of 'W' from his young days in Texas, all the way to the White House. Talk to Oliver Stone about it in just a couple of minutes.

8:10AM SEGMENT:

HARRY SMITH: The life of a president is usually portrayed on film years after he has left office. But with the new movie 'W,' opening this Friday, Oscar winning director and screen writer Oliver Stone explores the presidency of George W. Bush while he's still in the White House.

[CLIP OF MOVIE 'W']

JOSH BROLIN [AS PRESIDENT BUSH]: I haven't made no mistakes. I'm confident I have. It's just I haven't -- you know, you really put me on the spot here, John. Maybe I'm not as quick on my feet as I should be in coming up with one, but-

SMITH: And Oliver Stone joins us this morning. Good morning.

OLIVER STONE: Good morning, Harry.

SMITH: You view this president as? Fill in the blank.

STONE: Well, I'm not the judge. I'm the dramatist, I'm putting out this story, it's one of the most incredible stories I've -- of the last 20 years. This guy who's an improbable president, he came from very strange roots. And he's shaped and changed the world in these last eight years in ways that were inconceivable. I mean, so he spoke for himself, the administration. It's not for me to -- you see the movie and you walk out and think about where we are now as a country, where we were eight years ago and I think you come to your own conclusion.

SMITH: People -- I was in a screening of this movie just yesterday. This person was walking out, 'my gosh it seemed so sympathetic.' I didn't feel that way, but your hearing that yourself I'm sure.

STONE: I hear it but I think there's a confusion between sympathy and empathy. Empathy means understanding, and as a dramatist it's my job to understand, to walk in the shoes of George W. Bush as best as I can.

SMITH: Right.

STONE: Sympathize, no. I do think he's hurt this country. I'm a Vietnam veteran. We should not have gone into the Iraq war. We were in three wars, not only Afghanistan and Iraq, but really the war on terror is a major war. You know, we've had an economic meltdown because of it, partly because of the overreach. And this country is in a very dire place and I'm not happy about it.

SMITH: Yeah, yeah.

STONE: But, you know, people voted for him.

SMITH: Who do you -- it's very interesting, because to make a decision to make a movie like this, Josh Brolin is doing an imitation of George Bush.

STONE: Not an imitation.

SMITH: How would you -- what would you call it?

STONE: I'd call it -- Josh is a wonderful actor. He comes from theater, he's 40-years-old and he's been through a tremendous life. Much failure, like George Bush, at the age of 40 and he turned it around, George Bush.

SMITH: Right.

STONE: So I think Josh is mature and I think he lived the role. He went into the role and he became-

SMITH: Because there are mannerisms that are certainly similar.

STONE: Some, but he didn't overdo it.

SMITH: Yeah.

STONE: You know, it's easy to make fun of George Bush, and he's been an object of comedy for what -- 8 years we've made fun of him.

SMITH: Right, right.

STONE: But the truth is, you don't really know much about the man. People think they know him, they have opinions about him but they haven't really walked in his steps, they don't know what happened. Those first three, four years of the presidency were very veiled.

SMITH: Right.

STONE: Manufactured -- Karl Rove, they kept everything -- only in the last -- from about 2004 the books started to come little by little. Suskind, Woodward, they broke the ice.

SMITH: The -- because this really is about who this person is.

STONE: Yeah, yeah that's the point.

SMITH: How he was formed, where he was formed. The Yale days. The relationship with his father. The relationship with his mother.

STONE: That's right.

SMITH: The relationship with his wife.

STONE: Yes, yes. Crucial to -- it's a character study because you wouldn't understand what happened on the march to Iraq, which is the climax of the movie. That's the third act. The first act is the recklessness of his youth, wild times, and the second act is that governorship of Texas, owning the baseball team. You see the seeds of the man, how he develops. When he becomes president for me that's where the tension really pays off.

SMITH: His religious redemption, stunning. Stacy Keach is that minister-

STONE: Stacy Keach-

SMITH: And there are so many interesting portrayals in this, we don't have time to go into them all.

STONE: We have about 15 character actors that are great in the movie. Jamie Cromwell is the father Ellen Burstyn's the mother.

SMITH: Stunning, stunning, stunning.

STONE: And don't forget Elizabeth Banks as Laura -- I think she did -- Laura Bush -- did a great job.

SMITH: Phenomenal, phenomenal stuff. Thanks very much for stopping by this morning.

STONE: Thank you, Harry.

SMITH: Do appreciate it, Oliver Stone.

—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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Oh, Harry Smith's

Oh, Harry Smith's endorsement will really pack the crowds in.

"W"

Harry Smith says, 

"Stunning, stunning, stunning ...Phenomenal, phenomenal stuff."

Quick, print more tickets!

McNotObama '08

liberal MSM; what do you expect?

Its not suprising coming from the leftist MSM. What does MSM stand for any way? [check as many as apply]

[ ] Marxist Socialist Media

[ ] Morally Sick Media

[ ] Misleading Sinister Media

[ ] Mendaciously Smug Media

[ ] Missing Smarts Media

[ ] Magniloquent Stratospheric Media

[ ] all of the above

 ============

 some reviews of W.

(The Time Magazine critic said it was "boring.")

Todd McCarthy:

No visual correlatives or subjective projections of mood or attitude
are offered, as they have been in past Stone films. Dominating are
borderline distorted closeups, especially of Brolin, along with shadowy
lighting and generally lackluster lensing. Some of the song choices are
downright sophomoric in their too-obvious irony.

(Seems to me they rushed this one out in time for Nov elections, as a "cheap shot".)

 

Oliver Stone movies remind

Oliver Stone movies remind me of wikipedia. There's a bunch of stuff there, but most of it is wrong!

Why Obama Scares The Crap Out Of Me

 

 

Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/  

I bet

'Bawney Fwanks and the fannie Mae sub prime mortgage man' would be a much better and a whole lot funnier movie.

Look at the screencap:

Look at the screencap: instead of wagging his finger, Smith is sucking it.

Harriet Smith: "Stunning, stunning, stunning ...Phenomenal, phenomenal stuff.

May I perform oral sex on you after our interview is done?"

So lemme get this straight: W was an improbable president, he came from very strange roots. In Stone-World, having a father who was a freakin' president is an example of strange roots?

Glad to hear Obama can't be described that same way. He's just so mainstream.

Yeah SoL

In Stone-World, it's much more probable that being a cankle-crone married to an Ex-President is much more appropriate....and non-strange.

Sheesh!

 

In his own words (28 seconds):  Obama's change.....SOCIALISM.

 

Why can't we invoke

Why can't we invoke campaign finance laws and get the media - including the "news" and the "entertainment" industry - to either add the disclaimer to their product, or shut down?

Movie will bomb, along with

Movie will bomb, along with other left-wing hack flicks as of late.  Body of Lies is also tanking, considering its huge budget.

Richard, you will be happy

Richard, you will be happy to know that "body of lies" was out done by "Beverly Hills Chihuahua" on its opening weekend.  Even the low budget horror film "Quarantine" beat "body of lies!"

 

"And there are so many

"And there are so many interesting portrayals in this, we don't have time to go into them all...Stunning, stunning, stunning ...Phenomenal, phenomenal stuff."

 

Harry Smith is the truest form of a sycophant that I have heard of recently.  He is an awful, awful person. 

If there was ever a guy in

If there was ever a guy in the mold of "pastor" wright, "G'dm America," stone is it. 

For example, his account of our role in Vietnam from the perspective of a small group of soldiers in the movie, Platoon, makes me sick.  He stereotyped our fighting men as a bunch of sick, lazy, stupid, drug crazed imbeciles.  And our fighting there is depicted as some kind of sport against the poor misunderstood communists.  If there is a shrine in Vietnam for Americans that championed the bloodthirsty murdering communist cause, stone must be there.  

Meantime, brolin and stone are certainly of like mind.  brolin starred in a film that is not unlike stone's "platoon."  Only this one is about Iraq and it is called "in the valley of elah."  In it, we have lazy, stupid, drug crazed imbecilic soldiers that are just back from a tour in Iraq where among other things they tortured prisoners.  Making our fighting men look like crap and their cause worthless is a life time ambition of hollyweird with the likes of brolin and stone. 

Somewhere there must be a shrine for stone and brolin that champion the bloodthirsty murderers that make up the taliban, al qaeda, and the islamofascists.

Count me as not paying money to this piece of sh*t movie.  

 

 

 

jdhawk.... Same

jdhawk....

Same here...and Amen to your post, we feel the same in our house.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Ditto on the amen's

As a Viet Vet I was always sick and angry at the imbecile Stone's portrayal of the soldiers in VietNam in "Platoon". I am always amazed that all the guides give that POS load of crap movie 4 stars. Stone's ideology must have trumped any good sense he had/has and I find it hard to believe that he was there and if there was in any kind of fighting unit. 

"...no civilization, no matter how rich, no matter how refined, can long survive once it loses the power to meet force with equal or superior force." - Bernard Knox

I'm not gonna watch it! 

I'm not gonna watch it!  I'm not gonna watch it!

 

»→ Sell?

I wonder if it's not a good idea to sell stock holdings in advance of tomorrow night's debate.

That is, unless you have faith McCain wins the debate.

Like I said.

Underdog & Pitbull 08

I went to see American

I went to see American Carol and walked out during the W trailer (I came back in afterwards).  Ruth asked me where I was going and I said "I'll be back when this piece of %$&* is over!"

 I will not be giving this doughhead any of my money. 

“But maybe you obviously have a better memory about that."- Wolf Blitzer

Three Wars?  I think

Three Wars?

 I think he's confused there. We are fighting a War against Terror in two places at the moment.

Can honestly say I've never seen ANY of his movies.

Oliver Stone makes bad movies

Harry Smith is such an idiot.  He's just like a parrot, without the plumage. 

Let's face it, Oliver Stone just makes bad movies especially historical
films. Anyone see his Nixon movie? I was one of the few who saw it in
the theater & it was actually painful to sit there for three hours
and watch Anthony Hopkins force sweat from his upper lip.

Anybody see Stone's Alexander?  Colin Farell was dreadful as Alexander
and Val Kilmer as Philip of Macedonia was downright hilarious. 

Other Stone dogs: Any Given Sunday, Natural Born killers, The Doors, and Talk Radio. Ugh. 

Stone is really hit and

Stone is really hit and miss. The last good one, IMO, was Born on the 4th of July. 

Mostly miss

I never saw that one. I will admit that Wall Street was good, and even though it dealt with the world of fantasy, JFK was well made.  Platoon was good too, but Full Metal Jacket was so much better, I hardly remember Platoon.

I donno

I thought that one sucked to

edit, 4th of July that is

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg