On Thursday’s CBS "Early Show," co-host Harry Smith interviewed former Bush Administration advisor Dan Bartlett about Scott McClellan’s memoir and suggested that McClellan’s harsh criticism: "...actually confirms what a lot of people have come to believe, though, about the Bush Administration, that truth was secondary to policy and politics." On Wednesday, CNN’s John Roberts made a similar observation about the book.
In a report prior to Smith’s interview with Barlett, correspondent Jim Axelrod wondered: "So why would Scott McClellan write a book bound to cut him off from so many old friends?" Axelrod answered his question by playing a clip of former Clinton White House press secretary, Joe Lockhart: "It's setting the record straight, not taking the fall for things he didn't do, not looking like the patsy, but also there -- it strikes me that there's some -- there's some conviction in here that there's information that the public should have had they didn't have and somebody had to tell this story."
Lockhart of course was nobody’s patsy during the Monica Lewinsky scandal, when, as Washington Post reporter Howard Kurtz described:
The Dallas Morning News had just touted a possible White House witness to an encounter between the president and the intern, and Lockhart was harassing the networks that picked it up. He called "Nightline," which reported the administration's denial before signing off. He called CNN reporter John King after the report was mentioned on "Larry King Live." "The story is a piece of [excrement]," Lockhart declared. "Your network is putting it on the air. You can't just pin it on the Dallas Morning News. Your credibility is at stake."
Later in the interview with Bartlett, Smith further emphasized McClellan’s credibility: "Scott McClellan, though, doesn't have all that much to gain, especially in the long run, to betray the White House in the way folks feel like he has...So why would he write the book unless he believes he -- he was deceived himself?" Despite Smith’s claim that McClellan did not "have all that much to gain," at the beginning of the show Smith touted the fact that the book: "...has already skyrocketed to number one on the Amazon best seller list." Apparently the money from book sales is not "all that much."
When Bartlett questioned why McClellan did not speak up as press secretary about problems with the administration, Smith quickly shot him down: "He was a loyalist. He believed in what the Bush Administration was about. He goes all the way back to the governor's mansion, he goes back about as far as you do."
Here is the full transcript of the segment:
7:01AM TEASER:
JULIE CHEN: And boy, everyone is still buzzing about Scott McClellan's book called 'What Happened.' Who is the one who said it should be called 'What Happened?' Instead of 'What Happened.'
HARRY SMITH: This is it [showing book], it has already skyrocketed to number one on the Amazon best seller list. And we're going to talk to former White House counselor Dan Bartlett, a long-time associate of Scott McClellan's, about all of that in just a couple of minutes.
7:04AM SEGMENT:
HARRY SMITH: The fallout is intense over the scathing memoir written by President Bush's former press secretary Scott McClellan. Let's turn to CBS News chief White House correspondent Jim Axelrod with more. Good morning, Jim.
JIM AXELROD: Well, good morning, Harry. Scott McClellan goes way back with George Bush, all the way back to Texas, but this morning it would appear these two men have an irretrievably damaged relationship. This was the president when McClellan announced he'd be leaving.
GEORGE W. BUSH: One of these days he and I are going to be rocking in chairs in Texas talking about the good old days. His time as the press secretary.
AXELROD: That's not a conversation likely to happen now. McClellan, who did so much to sell the Iraq war --
SCOTT MCCLELLAN: The regime certainly had the intent and capability when it comes to weapons of mass destruction.
AXELROD: Writes in his new book that 'the Iraq war was not necessary' and the 'White House was not open and forthright on Iraq.' This morning in Stockholm for an international conference on Iraq, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice rejected McClellan's allegations.
CONDOLEEZZA RICE: I'm not going to comment on a book that I haven't read. But I will say that the concerns about weapons of mass destruction in Saddam Hussein's Iraq were the fundamental reason for dozens of resolutions within the Security Council from the time that Saddam Hussein was expelled from Kuwait in 1991 up until 2003.
AXELROD: McClellan also clearly feels he was hung out to dry in the Valerie Plame leak case, when he publicly denied Karl Rove and Scooter Libby were involved.
MCCLELLAN: They're good individuals. They're important members of our White House team. And that's why I spoke with them so that I could come back to you and say that they were not involved.
AXELROD: That turned out not to be true. McClellan writes 'top White House officials who knew the truth including Rove, Libby and possibly Vice President Cheney allowed me, even encouraged me, to repeat a lie.' Former colleagues are livid.
ARI FLEISCHER: I think Scott has crossed a Rubicon and is now saying things that -- just hard to understand how somebody who could be the White House spokesman and took the podium and you thought was speaking from the heart could now be saying something so different.
AXELROD: So why would Scott McClellan write a book bound to cut him off from so many old friends? Joe Lockhart, a press secretary for Bill Clinton, has an idea.
JOE LOCKHART: It's setting the record straight, not taking the fall for things he didn't do, not looking like the patsy, but also there -- it strikes me that there's some -- there's some conviction in here that there's information that the public should have had they didn't have and somebody had to tell this story.
AXELROD: You know, I saw Scott McClellan a couple of weeks ago. We chatted about the book that was about to come out at that point. I definitely had a sense that with this book he knew he was walking through a door that he couldn't re-enter, but that with the Bush Administration literally about to be history, he had to get his version out there. Harry.
SMITH: Jim Axelrod in Washington this morning. Thanks so much. Joining us now from Austin, Texas, is Dan Bartlett, former counselor to President Bush. Morning, Dan.
DAN BARTLETT: Good morning, Harry. How you doing?
SMITH: As you heard the revelations from this book, were you shocked, surprised, disappointed?
BARTLETT: All of the above, maybe. Very disappointed. Mainly, Harry, because a lot of the things we are now reading in this book from a friend of mine, Scott McClellan, who I worked with for more than a decade, come as a complete surprise. The views that he apparently holds now were ones that he didn't share with any of his colleagues. I'd also have to say that some of the allegations he makes in this book, particularly about the run-up to the war, that propaganda was used and we deliberately misled the American people really, I must say, find quite offensive. Because I was in charge of communications and I would've never participated in a situation where we were knowingly misleading the American people.
SMITH: You know what, though, here's the thing. I think what McClellan wrote actually confirms what a lot of people have come to believe, though, about the Bush Administration, that truth was secondary to policy and politics.
BARTLETT: Well, I disagree with that, Harry. And I think one thing that's got conflated in this debate over the course of many years now is that there's a difference between the intelligence being wrong -- and there were many people who were wrong about it, not just this administration, but the previous administration, other governments -- but now that has been taken into saying we lied about it, that we lied our way to war and that is just patently false. And the thing that's important about -- for people to understand about this book is that he was not involved in a lot of those decisions --
SMITH: Well, a lot of the argument, though, is what the White House chose to believe which -- versus what a lot of other people were saying just happened not to be true.
BARTLETT: Well, Harry, again, I think if you look at the totality of evidence and there's been a lot of investigations, and nobody has concluded in these investigations that there was any direct manipulation or willingly misleading of the American people. At the end of the day, the intelligence was wrong, but people at the time made the best decisions with the information we had at the time.
SMITH: Scott McClellan, though, doesn't have all that much to gain, especially in the long run, to betray the White House in the way folks feel like he has.
BARTLETT: I would agree. I think that this after --
SMITH: So why would he write the book unless he believes he -- he was deceived himself?
BARTLETT: Well, I'm not saying that he doesn't believe it himself now. I'm just perplexed by the fact that he never shared these views with anybody when there was actually an opportunity to do something about it. If he had this -- these many feelings and deep misgivings about the war and about the conduct of the White House, why did he take the job as press secretary? Why did he ask himself to get up every morning and get before the American people --
SMITH: He was a loyalist. He believed in what the Bush Administration was about. He goes all the way back to the governor's mansion, he goes back about as far as you do.
BARTLETT: That's correct. And he's -- and that's why it's all the more shocking that if he had those feelings going all the way back, and if you -- in the book he talks about the positions or decisions the president made early on that he didn't agree with. If this was really a, you know, sticking in his craw, why didn't he say something to somebody? Even privately? And that's the part that I think is the most shocking to many of us who have worked with him for so long.
SMITH: Dan Bartlett, good to see you again.
BARTLETT: You too.
SMITH: Thanks for taking the time to speak with us.
BARTLETT: You bet.
SMITH: And in a couple of minutes chief Washington correspondent Bob Schieffer analyzes the political fallout from the book and its possible impact on the presidential race. We'll have that in a bit.
—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.















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"CBS’s Smith: McClellan
May 29, 2008 - 15:42 ET by Chris Norman"CBS’s Smith: McClellan ‘Confirms What A Lot of People Believe’ About Bush Administration"
If, by the same token, McClellan had written his book as praising the administration, would Smith say confirmed "what a lot of people believe about the Bush Administration"? No, I didn't think so - he won't acknowledge those people. He wouldn't have even acknowledged the book.
It looks like McClellan is on his way to becoming more successful as a back stabber than he ever was as a press secretary.
You have a fantastic point.
May 29, 2008 - 15:51 ET by mostlymoderateYou have a fantastic point. A book in "praise" of Bush would never have been mentioned.
Yeah Chris - he finally found his niche - back stabbing liar
May 29, 2008 - 15:58 ET by Dee BunkHas there even been one new fact that has come from this book? I haven't heard any. It's all just opinion and opinion that matches exactly what had been said in far left wing blogs.
This guy and the media who are fawning over him are completely despicable. It's such obvious propaganda for money. McClellan will probably end up with a CBS political consultant job over this. They would know he'd tow their line while being the token conservative.
"A lot of people" may be
May 29, 2008 - 16:04 ET by zhombre"A lot of people" may be defined as the media, Democrats, and those infected with Bush Derangement Syndrome, which is now showing its amazingly rapid ability to mutate into McCain Derangement Syndrome.
NB confirms what quite a
May 29, 2008 - 17:11 ET by TruthMongerNB confirms what quite a few people believe about the BDS MSM - mindless dupes shilling exclusively and daily for the Democratic party...
and they back it up with tons of statistics and documentation...
So what does McClellen have, harry - any notes written down from all the meetings he never attended...? A big paycheck from his liberal publisher...?
good stuff harry - i fold like a cheap date...
texas grudge match
May 29, 2008 - 16:19 ET by WR JonasThe liberal media can spin this all they want but Rush disclosed the publisher as a huge liberal with ties to George Soros.
From south Texas it smells like the stench of bitter payback from a vengeance seeking mom. None other than Carol Keeton Strayhorn (Kneecapper) Scotts ,seething hatefilled mother. She gets her revenge against George and Scott gets several million bucks . Not a bad days work for a couple of washed up schemers.
Ben Barnes anyone ?
"Many people"
May 29, 2008 - 16:27 ET by MCPO Airdale"Many people" is composed of the Democrat Party and their operatives in the media. By his actions, McClellan has proven that a stinking weasel is a stinking weasel, no matter his party affiliation.
Hey Smithie boy...
May 29, 2008 - 16:42 ET by bradbenj5952Hey Smithie boy, Scottie didn't confirm to you "what a lot of people believe", he merely wrote down what you libs wanted to hear, or rather, his handler(s) wrote down what you wanted to hear. I personally think this book was written by a stooge of George Soros, or maybe even by ol' Georgie himself!
"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." - C.S. Lewis
So far, he hasn't confirmed anything
May 29, 2008 - 17:40 ET by szampI agree. He hasn't confirmed anything. If any of those allegations were true, they would be very serious but in reallity there is no evidence, just opinions. Otherwise, they would be suing the White House instead of just writing a book.
In other words, the fact that he thinks one way or another and wrote a book about it is no evidence of anything.
It's very foolish of the MSM to start saying that a book is the evidence of anything. If they had any evidence, they would be doing something more drastic.
I wonder if there will be congressional hearings on this. If the accusations are false, people should be punished.
If McClellan had written
May 29, 2008 - 17:00 ET by Chris NormanIf McClellan had written that, despite the suspicions of liberals, the Bush Administration honestly believed in the intelligence reports regarding Iraq and so the invasion was honorable, would the Democrats and media accept his supporting testimony as the final word on the subject? I think not. How then, do they justify accepting his word that it was not?
"McClellan doesn't have
May 29, 2008 - 17:01 ET by mattm"McClellan doesn't have all that much to gain..." except for millions of dollars...
...by converting adoration
May 29, 2008 - 17:06 ET by Chris Norman...by converting adoration from the liberal media into a permanent spot on the talk show rotation, like Richard Clark. He finally has the praise he lacked as the bumbling, ineffectual WH press secretary.
Next, he'll claim he's been
May 29, 2008 - 17:12 ET by mattmNext, he'll claim he's been receiving death threats...that ought to get him a few more bucks.
I'm sure his publisher and
May 29, 2008 - 17:22 ET by Chris NormanI'm sure his publisher and agent will use their copies of "The Formerly Disrepected and Quickly Forgotten Political Turn Coat's Guide to Maximizing Newly Found Respect and Celebrity" handbook.
matt
May 29, 2008 - 17:24 ET by candanceThen after a centerfold layout in Vanity Fair, a piece in GQ, a profile in Time, and an invitation to speak at Columbia, he'll start whining on HuffPo that the neocons are trying to censor him....
No comment.
May 29, 2008 - 17:30 ET by FoolicanI have nothing to comment on the book. As I have not read it, I cannot make an objective determination on whether the facts presented are true or false. Nevertheless, I'll choose not to launch ad hominem attacks on the author simply because he opposes the President. By doing so I become no worse than the very folks I berate.
uh oh
May 29, 2008 - 17:33 ET by candance*scoots away from fool to avoid the flying debris*
Come on, now...
May 29, 2008 - 17:41 ET by FoolicanLook, it's only common sense. You can't formulate a valid argument against the other side unless you know what the basis for their argument is. Anthropogenic global warming arguments would go in circles if the skeptic didn't know what the hockey stick graph was. It's all well and good to say, "McClellan was a hack, he was probably paid off by Soros, the book was probably ghostwritten, he probably was a wolf in sheep's clothing," but without proof to back it up, it's just noise-making.
For instance:
As opposed to:
I agree fool
May 29, 2008 - 17:45 ET by candanceI agree with you 100%. But I made that very same point yesterday and was attacked tooth and nail for it.
No hurry
May 29, 2008 - 17:48 ET by FoolicanIt won't be long before I start being gainsayed for my less-than-right-of-center views. Trust me, it's happened. Though I hate to say it, a lot of people commenting on this website prefer to think with guts rather than brains. Yes, I support the conservative movement. I also support a little logical thinking.
(Does that make me a maverick?)
cd and
May 29, 2008 - 18:00 ET by bigtimercd and fool...
LOL...
Debate amongst yourselves...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
This from a fool that
May 30, 2008 - 14:51 ET by mofosesameThis from a fool that doesn't believe blacks are voting for Barack because he's also black.
A little logical thinking can go a long way.
Say What!!!
May 30, 2008 - 14:43 ET by bradbenj5952So the de facto authority on the science of global warming can only be found in "An Inconvenient Truth"! Sorry, I nor anyone else need to watch this movie to understand the science behind the global warming debate. I don't need to watch Al's movie before concluding that AGW is a hoax. I can actually look at the facts, not some politician's sorry attempt to scare the public into believing this stuff so he can pump up the value of his alternative energy investments. Remember the ozone debate?
"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." - C.S. Lewis
It's the "no one can express
May 29, 2008 - 17:51 ET by Chris NormanIt's the "no one can express an opinion on anything unless they have actually experienced it" position. It's the oh, so moderate scolding we get here occasionally.
Wait...
May 29, 2008 - 17:54 ET by FoolicanSuggesting that one read a book to understand the writer's talking points is "scolding"?
exactly fool
May 29, 2008 - 17:56 ET by candanceIt falls in the same category of
"don't talk about global warming unless you're a scientist"
"don't talking about Obama unless you're black"
"don't talk about the war unless you've served in the Army"
Nobody has to be a
May 29, 2008 - 18:02 ET by FoolicanNobody has to be a scientist to talk about global warming. In fact, if you read my sub-post above you would see that anyone could make an educated decision on global warming if they had the facts in front of them and if they were willing to qualify them in a reasoned argument.
It's not a false compromise, it's a matter of sizing up both talking points and then deciding for yourself, rather than jumping on the bandwagon, so to speak.
All I'm asking is that a few people read the book and criticize the points in them thus; it's not hard. We expect the same from other people by telling them "Don't talk about FairTax until you read the book," or "Watch FOX News for a change and then talk to me."
Now I'm not forcing you to do this. You can go on saying that McClellan is a hack and a fraud, but you'll convince very few outsiders that your point is correct, and they'll inevitably travel to the side that has more weight in their argument.
foolican -I havn't heard any weight behind the liberals argument
June 3, 2008 - 11:42 ET by Dee BunkWe don't need to read his book. We've seen enough interviews and reviews from people who love it had have not one new or true thing to say about anything.
I could care less about Scotty boy's amateur analysis of the President. He was a Press Secretary. A bad one. Why would I think his psychological analysis of the President should hold any value. He's not saying anything that all the left wing blogs haven't been saying from day one. He's offered no new "evidence" and he has ignored lots of old evidence.
""McClellan was a hack, he
May 29, 2008 - 20:13 ET by ckc1227""McClellan was a hack, he was probably paid off by Soros, the book was
probably ghostwritten, he probably was a wolf in sheep's clothing," but
without proof to back it up, it's just noise-making."
And yet McClellan is getting his 15 minutes of fame as the newest hero to the left and the media(redundant, I know) by doing just that by repeating the same old liberal talking points that sound like they were written by Soros himself, with, as always, no proof to back them up.
I suppose.......
May 29, 2008 - 22:38 ET by zoro7957........they did'nt mention lower taxes, more jobs, a bigger income for the federal government, and no terrorist attacks on U.S. soil...........?