So CNN Anchor Erin Burnett Thinks Americans Generally Not 'Open-Minded, Tolerant'?
Erin Burnett apparently thinks Americans could use the federal government's help in being "open-minded, tolerant citizens."
In a November 2 "Answer This" interview, Politico's Patrick Gavin asked the CNN anchor and former object of Chris Matthews's affection, "You’re president of the United States for enough time to make only one executive decision. What is it?"
Burnett answered:
Mandate one year of service for young people — whether domestically or overseas. It could be military or other service. Travel and exposure to people who speak other languages, have different values or live in different socioeconomic situations is important to raising open-minded, tolerant citizens.
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I swear...
Submitted by Kaleidoscopic God on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 4:42pm.
I am so sick of elitist, snobbish pricks using "open-mindedness" (and usually, when it comes to opinions, they are FAR from open-minded) as some sort of trump card.
I happen to agree with her.
Submitted by Duff on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 9:15pm.
Just look at the rabid viciousness the lefties spew at people that dare not agree with their lunacy.
Ohohoho, well played.
Submitted by Kaleidoscopic God on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 9:19pm.
-claps slowly-
I'm sure being a bastion of open-mindedness
Submitted by Quasi-socialist on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 4:51pm.
she's not sure what to make of that, right? I mean it could mean anything--if you keep an open mind. But no, she makes up her mind that there is something that she must compel others to do to check this state.
Does anybody know a dictator who isn't going to paint their orders with high-sounding values?
I forget who it was...
Submitted by Kaleidoscopic God on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 4:56pm.
...that said this maxim, but is an absolute gem. "Don't be too open-minded, or your brains will fall out."
Mandate
Submitted by forest on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 5:06pm.
It's always mandates of some kind. Progressives are insecure control freaks. Always have been. Sick people.
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A new role for Erin
Submitted by greydawg on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 5:24pm.
Erin is one of those women who should be seen but not heard. Pretty on the outside, but what a mess when you look under the scalp.
God forbid anyone suggest
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 5:25pm.
God forbid anyone suggest that Americans get out and see the world...
Mandate, bal?
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 5:31pm.
You want it MANDATED?
I'm all for going overseas and seeing the world, but MANDATING something like Peace Corps service?
FORCING people to be charitable?
You approve of that, bal?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I don't know that I'd want it
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 6:18pm.
I don't know that I'd want it mandated, but I don't think it would be horrible, either.
You don't know?
Submitted by ckc1227 on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 12:49am.
Didn't we fight a major war in part to end slavery?
Wishy-washy balboa at his
Submitted by Unsane on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 11:18am.
Wishy-washy balboa at his best.
Mandating things like community service is a horrible idea. People need to do that on their own, and besides, that has been going on for as long as America has existed.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
The only people I've heard
Submitted by redfish on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 8:13pm.
The only people I've heard arguing for mandated military service have some ideological agenda, either conservative or liberal. Conservatives who argue for it think it will toughen up kids and teach them responsibility. Liberals who argue for it think it will expand their horizons and make them more tolerant.
Either way, they want the government to parent the kids. I don't think staying in one country is the worst thing in the world either, nor do I think it makes people ignorant. Neither do I think people in military service are necessarily more responsible than others.
If someone argues we need mandated service so we all have skin in the game when we go to war, that's a different issue; although I don't agree with that either. But the whole idea of using the service as a way to morally educate people bothers me.
bal
Submitted by bkeyser on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 5:34pm.
The inference seems to be that absent that, tolerance is an unachievable goal. Personally, I gained a great deal of perspective for the year-plus I spent out of this country; I certainly came to appreciate home to a greater extent. I don't think mandated service abroad, however, would result in a more tolerant nation. Besides, who's more tolerant than the US?
I guess mandated is a bit
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 6:05pm.
I guess mandated is a bit much, but some of the reactions to her suggestion seem a bit over the top. But it's not the worst suggestion ever for a mandate.
I have no idea who would be comparably tolerant to us.
Actually...
Submitted by Unsane on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 12:35pm.
Actually, it is among the worst suggestions for a mandate. You cannot mandate charity and have it be genuine.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I'm pretty sure it isn't
Submitted by ant on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 2:00pm.
I'm pretty sure it isn't 'intolerant, close-minded, American youth' that fire-bomb the offices of anyone perceived as mocking Mo-ham-MAD (spit!).
And?
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 2:05pm.
And?
Really?
Submitted by ant on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 6:24pm.
Do I have to spell it out for you? Ok. Erin thinks Americans are close-minded and intolerant. So when was the last time any of these libtard media fools said the same of the Muslim community? Try never. Either they believe chopping off the heads of people and burning places down that don't agree with you is tolerance or they deliberatly lie for their 'comrades in chaos'.
Ok. Erin thinks Americans are
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 10:57pm.
Ok. Erin thinks Americans are close-minded and intolerant.
No she doesn't. She thinks they could benefit from being exposed to other cultures.
Really again?
Submitted by ant on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 11:13pm.
She said exposure to other languages, cultures, blah,blah..is IMPORTANT to raising open-minded, tolerant Americans. So those of us who don't travel abroad will miss out on this IMPORTANT exposure. Now, keep in mind, that what she is actually advocating is that people from a Nation of immigrants that contains many influences, cultures, traditions, and languages living side by side, a Nation founded on a revolutionary idea of freedom by birth for it's people, and a lively, republican form of government would be better served to go visit and serve other nations of the world. Other Nations that are largely monochromatic, other Nations where people not only don't live side by side with other cultures, etc. but are actually pretty intolerant of them, other Nations who have leaders by virtue of birth or power-grabs.
You don't have to leave America to meet people from other backgrounds and cultures, but you would have to if you lived in Japan, or Kenya, or Iran.
It's important, sure. That's
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 11:16pm.
It's important, sure. That's all. You're trying too hard to be offended.
Not really, Bal
Submitted by ant on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 11:34pm.
I'm just pointing out that it's a stupid thing for her to say and she's reinforcing her view. I've been insulted by these people for too long to be offended anymore, now I'm just content to be disgusted with them. Burnett and her fellows in the MSM have continually referred to the people that don't buy into their liberal dogma as homophobic,islamophobic,racist,extremists,anti-woman,and xenophobic, just to name a few. Those are not terms of endearment, that is painting people as intolerant and close-minded.
I'm not trying to single you out, yours was just a convenient point for me to jump in and make a comment.
Pointing out
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 11/05/2011 - 12:03am.
Bals stupidity has been apparent for years, so take it as a given! Dont struggle unnecessarily
Executive decision to MANDATE service?
Submitted by Marcus Porcius on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 8:21pm.
First of all there's no power for the president to mandate national service. Miss brainy reporter should know that, yes? Of course, her ilk doesn't care about limits on the government's power.
As for seeing the world or "people in other socioeconomic situations"..big freakin' deal.
I've lived in Southern California, Denver, and a dinky little hick-Democrat-racist-infested town in upstate New York. I've been poor and I've never been rich. I've had friends and enemies of all colors and creeds, and from all income levels.
I've also seen a fair bit of the world. I've stayed two months in The Netherlands, a month in Spain, ten days in Italy (not as a tourist either), and 43 months in Germany. I've traveled to Canada, England, Luxembourg, Lichtenstein, Belgium, France, Switzerland, Poland and East Germany, when it was still East Germany. And yes, I hold a valid passport.
I've seen personally what communism does to people and what "democratic socialism" does to people.
I've done the "national service," having served my country in the Infantry.
You know what I've learned? I've learned that this IS in fact the best country on Earth, and we have the best governmental system.
I've even determined that English is the best language to speak, and I am at least (very) basically fluent in Dutch, German and Spanish as well as knowing the basics of Italian.
I wouldn't want to speak any other language or live anywhere else.
I've met all Ms. Burnett's criteria and yet I've actually been made more conservative for it. Oops.
Stuff that in your pipe and smoke it, Erin Burnett.
"Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions." G.K. Chesterton
www.theconservativereview.com
I can't say I totally agree
Submitted by dzejk113 on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 9:18pm.
I can't say I totally agree with the English part. I'm not too fond of English, but that might be in part because of my interest in my heritage, which is Polish. I love Polish, it's a beautiful language, and Poland has a fascinating culture, and a rich history. Although I do whole-heartedly agree that if you're going to live and work in the US you better learn to speak English.
mandated service,
Submitted by Agnostic on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 2:13pm.
Four continents and 24 countries later and it has only reaffirmed what I believe about the US and the superiority of freedom and diminished government.
The media is turning the meaning of tolerance on its head by trying to make all outcomes equal. The only places I places I've been that were as accepting of differences as the US were Monaco (they will take anyones money) and the Norway of twenty years ago. The liberal indoctrinators have done a disservice to these pitiable members of the media because they will never see the true greatness of their own nation.
mandated service,
Submitted by Agnostic on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 2:19pm.
Four continents and 24 countries later and it has only reaffirmed what I believe about the US and the superiority of freedom and diminished government.
The media is turning the meaning of tolerance on its head by trying to make all outcomes equal. The only places I places I've been that were as accepting of differences as the US were Monaco (they will take anyones money) and the Norway of twenty years ago. The liberal indoctrinators have done a disservice to these pitiable members of the media because they will never see the true greatness of their own nation.
'Tis true
Submitted by ant on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 6:17pm.
Just look at what tolerance there is for American youth hiking in Iran. I'd predict one of the unintended consequences of President Erin's wonderful 'mandate' would be paying out ransom money to numerous Countries on a regular basis to get our young people back.
That's a bit too easy to say.
Submitted by CO2Maker on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 9:01pm.
Sometimes people forget that the U.S. is a continental country with only two neighbors, both of which span the continent and border two oceans. Europe is approximately the same size as the US in area but has a bit more than twice as many inhabitants. There are 23 official languages spoken in Europe; in the US, there in one principal language but many other languages are spoken in different regions by different demographic groups. North America itself is three times the size of Europe in area but has only about 2/3 the population of Europe.
One doesn't have to travel far or spend a lot of money in Europe to cross into a different language and cultural region, whereas in the US, the regional differences are not culturally or linguistically differentiated (with some minor exceptions).
I am assuming that "get out and see the world" means farther than Mexico and Canada. In the US, one has to travel across wide oceans to the east and west, or a large body of water to the south, to get to the rest of the world.
BTW, Erin says to meet other people who have different values. Does she mean the big-ticket values? What would they be that we don't have in the US but should be exposed to? Don't murder? Same here. Love your family? Same here. Protect children? Same here. Help neighbors in time of crisis? Same here. Or does she mean little-casino values, like ...Well, I can't think of any little "value" that isn't just a custom, like shaking hands on being introduced or eating what is served to you when you are a guest in a house.
Well bal, I have been to 45
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 12:42am.
Well bal, I have been to 45 different countries and I can honestly say America is the best and socialism is the first step into poverty. Bal you and your socialist buddies get on a plane and go to Cambodia and take a good look at the results of socialist social engineering.
Nowhere did I say or imply
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 8:24am.
Nowhere did I say or imply that we should adopt the policies of the places you visit.
"See the world" doesn't mean "completely change the American way of life. "
Take a cruse
Submitted by CobraMan on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 12:38pm.
You want people to go out and see the world? Fine, sign them up for a cruse.
You want people to become angry and resentful towards the general public? Fine, conscript them into "public" service.
That's the problem with "mandatory service," it forces people to do things against their will. Guess what happens to people when their will is denied, even for a short time?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
In mourning over EIB
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 5:33pm.
Consider me in mourning more and more when I see Erin Burnett mentioned here.
In the meantime, I will have memories...
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I'm mourning with you brother
Submitted by lsudolemite on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 7:56pm.
Erin struck me as a bit ditzy on CNBC, and now she keeps confirming it.
(sigh)
I don't think she's ditzy.
Submitted by stratman on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 11:56pm.
I don't think she's ditzy. She knows who butters her bread and does enough churning to keep the dough coming. (pun intended).
Either Burnet:
The price she's paying for her recent on-air garbage is loss of credibility. But at least she's moving up on the list to join NBC's morning show with Lauer, Curry and Roker.
Yea guys, I think you are
Submitted by inquiringmind on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 5:35pm.
Yea guys, I think you are being a little hard on Erin. I actually agree with Bal. Gulp! She was simply saying it might be helpful if we all broadened our experiences. She didn't say anyone had to change or that anyone group was wrong. Anyway, this is a non-issue.
Yes, it's kind of a silly,
Submitted by Ken Shepherd on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 5:41pm.
Yes, it's kind of a silly, fanciful hypothetical question. But even those answers can be revealing.
Mandate!
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 5:44pm.
Helpful if we all broadened our experiences, huh?
The problem is that Miss Burnett is saying we need to - at the point of a gun.
Read VERY carefully where she uses the word MANDATE. It wouldn't be an issue IF she suggested VOLUNTEERING time. But she used the word MANDATE.
By the way, I should point out that she IS from a state where this is done already. The People's Republic of MD mandates that its HS students give a year of community service in the state. If I was faced with that requirement I would have dropped out of HS and gotten a GED and have been done with it. Or moved to VA or PA...
I don't know how old she is but I suspect she is my age...and if this is so, she probably dealt with this requirement as a student in a MD HS. Yes, according to her, she is "from a small town on the eastern shore of MD." (Marylanders, please correct me if I'm wrong - the MD gov't came up with that stupid requirement in the early 1990s.) Hence her immense comfort with the notion of FORCING people to be charitable and to do good deeds.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Yes, I'm from Maryland and
Submitted by Ken Shepherd on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 6:03pm.
Yes, I'm from Maryland and that was a requirement for high school graduates, at least starting with class of 1997 (which I was).
I put in the required time in community service, but there were some pretty large loopholes so you could fulfill those community service hours in pretty pathetic paper-pushing ways.
The requirement was pushed by none other than Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, who has been persona non grata in Maryland Democratic politics since losing to Bob Ehrlich in 2002.
Mandatory volunteerism is an
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 7:40pm.
Mandatory volunteerism is an oxymoron.
Unsane
Submitted by bkeyser on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 6:07pm.
It started in '92 and the requirement is
(1) seventy-five hours of student service that includes preparation, action, and reflection components and that, at the discretion of the local school system, may begin during the middle grades; or
(2) a locally-designed program in student service that has been approved by the State Superintendent of Schools.
My son did about 150 hours or so, as I recall, though many students do much more. The qualification for service hours is really a bit vague though and actual hours completed (I'm sure) often faked. I know my son exceeded his requirement one summer during a two-week camp counselor gig for young children.
I graduated in '83 in Maryland and I damn sure know that this sort of requirement would not have gone over well during that time. I can also pretty much guarantee the vast majority of Baltimore City graduates don't complete the current requirement. Of course, the graduation rate in Baltimore City isn't anything to write home about.
Mandatory volunteerism
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 8:15pm.
A local school district (Bethlehem) has a public service requirement. Amazingly enough they "encourage" students to "volunteer" at their summer Musikfest. Coincidentally the city makes a pretty penny on the festival every year.
We all know politicians. This mandate would end up forcing our youth to "volunteer" in places politically expedient, like Libya.
She wasn't just saying it would be helpful.
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 7:39pm.
She was saying it should be mandatory because [she thinks] it would be helpful.
Of course, not a word about who would pay for these global jaunts either. But that's a detail for others to work out.
Well she wasn't presenting a
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 11:14pm.
Well she wasn't presenting a policy paper on this. It was a question in an interview.
Maybe...
Submitted by Unsane on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 11:20am.
Perhaps, but still it was (and is) a dumb response and a dumb idea.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Poor Erin
Submitted by CobraMan on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 12:34pm.
Poor Erin, how dare we criticize her for suggesting it would help people if they were conscripted into service, public or military! I mean, really, conscription has worked so well in the past. Just look at the success of all those long dead civilizations that utilized it.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Wow Mandatory?
Submitted by Redrowan2000 on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 6:51pm.
Great idea for volunteers but to enforce mandatory service is something I think we should look long and hard at. It seems like it could lead to broad interpretation. But I guess if they had that in Wisconsin all those students being forced to demonstrate with their teachers would all fulfill the requirements and get A's to boot.
I mean hey doing picket duty with the teachers union is some type of community work isn't it?
Just makes you think.
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
Why not? It's like mandated investments and charity
Submitted by lsudolemite on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 7:53pm.
i.e., taxes.
Erin Burnett. So cute. So
Submitted by Van Halen on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 8:00pm.
Erin Burnett.
So cute.
So very dumb.
Erin, are you open-minded and tolerant enough to ...
Submitted by CO2Maker on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 8:35pm.
Shop at Walmart in a Southern state, walking in past people smoking cigarettes and eating a Macdonald's hamburger they bought at the in-store restaurant? Then get a ride in a guy's pickup truck with an American flag decal on the window and listen to Garth or Willie on the radio (no preset button for NPR, btw) as you drive away drinking Mountain Dew.
Nah, I didn't think so. That would be too much like John and Teresa Heinz Ketchup slumming it at a Wendy's when they found out that John and Elizabeth Edwards celebrated their anniversary at Wendy's (when he wasn't boinking the tele-temptress).
Yep
Submitted by ant on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 2:09pm.
I don't think tolerating the 'great-unwashed' is on the list of leftist attributes.
I can think of 50 million children that will never get to experience any culture thanks to the open-minded left's mantra of "women's choice".
We are 14 trillion dollars in debt, how would President Erin pay for all these 'mandated' trips. Perhaps the 'youth' could take 'mandated' excursions to China and meet their new masters.
lol
Submitted by kata on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 9:50pm.
How about getting people to walk across the street and introduce themselves to their neighbors, first. Baby steps.
(I don't like it when the word mandate rolls out of people's mouths with ease, either.)
Americans ARE open-minded...
Submitted by Natebass on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 10:38pm.
We are so open minded, people will listen to an obvious idiot like you, don't they?
She is Actually Right Where She Is Concerned
Submitted by Avitar on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 12:22am.
Americans are not tolerant of those who are stuck on Stupid. We recognize that you can't fix stupid and seek to remove the afflicted to less responsible jobs where they can't hurt themselves and others.
Between an open mind and an empty head
Submitted by Injest on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 4:07am.
So CNN Anchor Erin Burnett Thinks Americans Generally Not 'Open-Minded, Tolerant'?
There's a Fine Line Between a Groove and a Rut. Between an open mind and an empty head
The military is an 8 year commitment
Submitted by Injest on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 4:16am.
Mandate one year of service for young people — whether domestically or overseas. It could be military or other service.
To do what? military or other service. The military is an 8 year commitment!
1 year would barley cover boot and an “A” school!
Meet Unusual People, Kill Them
Submitted by Injest on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 4:23am.
"It could be military" or other service. "Travel and exposure to people who speak other languages, have different values or live in different socioeconomic situations is important to raising "
Join the Army, Travel to Exotic Lands, Meet Unusual People, Kill Them
The Fact That This TWIT is Allow to Voice An Opinion
Submitted by scottyusmc on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 8:53am.
on CNN is a testament to our tolerance!!!
And she's leaving when?
Submitted by east tennessee john on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 11:40am.
And she's leaving when?
And she's leaving when?
Submitted by east tennessee john on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 11:40am.
And she's leaving when?
We have a term for that...
Submitted by CobraMan on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 12:26pm.
"Mandate one year of service for young people — whether domestically or overseas."
We have a term for that: It's called "conscription." It's what all tyrannical leaders do. So, I guess we all know what kind of leader YOU would be, Erin.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
The issue of making it
Submitted by redfish on Fri, 11/04/2011 - 10:45pm.
The issue of making it mandatory aside, I don't think travelling makes someone a better person. A lot of people visit many countries, but see it with a tourist's eye and learn nothing from their experience. They go home with the same beliefs and a pack of glossy photos. Someone who has studied different cultures in books, and read a lot about history, may understand more about different people than someone who has went on a lot of travel, because he may have learned a lot more about the substance of what makes the world go round. There's nothing wrong with doing both, and nothing wrong with doing either of them alone, either.
Ultimately, though, the only way to be open minded is to have an open mind. Not seeing someone starving on the street shouldn't keep you from imagining what its like to starve on the street. You should understand intuitively that all people are people and have the same basic concerns. But seeing that people everywhere have the same concerns, shouldn't keep you from thinking some people aren't right and some people aren't wrong. Ultimately the only way to have an open mind is to be honest with yourself. No moral education can be a replacement for that.