Newsweek's Lisa Miller Hypes 'New Scholarship' on Bible's View of Human Sexuality
Leave it to the religion writer who sees the Jesus of the Bible as "typically cranky" to give credence to "scholars" who argue the Bible considers gay and/or premarital sex perfectly kosher.
In her February 6 post, "What the Bible Really Says About Sex," Miller noted that "[t]wo new books written by university scholars for a popular audience try to answer this question.":
Story Continues Below Ad ↓Jennifer Wright Knust and Michael Coogan mine the Bible for its earthiest and most inexplicable tales about sex—Jephthah, who sacrifices his virgin daughter to God; Naomi and Ruth, who vow to love one another until death—to show that the Bible’s teachings on sex are not as coherent as the religious right would have people believe.
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With their books, they hope to steal the conversation about sex and the Bible back from the religious right. “The Bible doesn’t have to be an invader, conquering bodies and wills with its pronouncements and demands,” Knust writes. “It can also be a partner in the complicated dance of figuring out what it means to live in bodies that are filled with longing.”
Miller continued by summarizing the arguments of Knust and Coogan yet failing to quote at length any conservative theologian to dispute or criticize their conclusions.
For example, Miller claims that in the Old Testament:
Husbands, in essence, owned their wives, and fathers owned their daughters, too. A girl’s virginity was her father’s to protect—and to relinquish at any whim. Thus Lot offers his two virgin daughters to the angry mob that surrounds his house in Sodom.
Of course conservative scholars might note that the account of Lot fleeing from Sodom is not prescriptive of the sort of marital and family life that one should strive for. Subsequent to fleeing from God's judgment of Sodom, Genesis records that Lot's daughters took turns seducing their drunken father and bearing children as a result of that union. Those children went on to father pagan nations that were enemies of the Israelites.
Lot is hardly an exemplary character worthy of emulation, he's much more a cautionary account.
Miller continued to confuse narrative accounts as giving license for the activity described:
The Bible is stern and judgmental on sex. It forbids prostitution, adultery, premarital sex for women, and homosexuality. But exceptions exist in every case, Knust points out. Tamar, a widow without children, poses as a whore and solicits her own father-in-law—so that he could “come into” her. Her desire to ameliorate her childlessness trumps the prohibition against prostitution.
Elsewhere, Miller observed that "[i]n the Bible, 'traditional marriage' doesn’t exist. Abraham fathers children with Sarah and his servant Hagar. Jacob marries Rachel and her sister Leah, as well as their servants Bilhah and Zilpah."
All those things are true, but a cursory read of Genesis shows that those marital arrangements produced all manner of strife, jealousy, discord, and violence that harmed not only the individuals involved but subsequent generations of their offspring.
These are all points that could be capably described by a theologian with a greater command of the topic than I, yet Miller gave readers just two brief quotes from conservative scholars, including the following from the penultimate paragraph of her story (emphasis mine):
A person alone on her couch with Scripture can also come to some dangerous conclusions: the Bible has, at certain times in history, been read to support slavery, wife-beating, kidnapping, child abuse, racism, and polygamy. That’s why Albert Mohler, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, that citadel of Christian conservatism, concludes that one’s Bible reading must be overseen by the proper authorities. Just because everyone should read the Bible “doesn’t mean that everyone’s equally qualified to read it, and it doesn’t mean that the text is just to be used as a mirror for ourselves,” he says. “All kinds of heresies come from people who read the Bible and recklessly believe that they’ve understood it correctly.” As the word of God, he adds, the Bible isn’t open to the same level of interpretation as The Odyssey or The Iliad.
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The left needs to worry about
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Mon, 02/07/2011 - 6:44pm.
The left needs to worry about what Allah thinks about it.
I find it quite amusing that . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 02/07/2011 - 6:51pm.
. . . the very folks who seem bent on dismissing the Bible are conversely intent on re-interpreting it to their own liking.
If one thinks that God approves of homosexual relationships including marriage, so be it. But it doesn't sanctify rewriting the rules for the majority.
Bravo!
Submitted by Slyrr on Mon, 02/07/2011 - 8:24pm.
Well observed. For a gang who have said over and over again that there IS no God, and that all of organized religion is a sham and a fraud, the pro-gay community sure seems eager and anxious to try and prove that their whoredoms, fornications and sodomy are somehow 'in canon' with holy writ. One would think that they were trying to prove the existence of God.
Down through the ages come again the words of the man born blind, 'Will ye also be his disciples?'
Galvanic, I remember the day
Submitted by celator on Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:39pm.
Galvanic, I remember the day I heard Obama say, with a straight face, apparantly, that Jesus's Sermon On The Mount justified "gay civil unions". That's some mighty creative subjective interpretation--making your point.
http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctliveblog/archives/2008/03/obama_cite...
Will the Stupidity Never Stop?
Submitted by Tenebrous on Mon, 02/07/2011 - 7:03pm.
I swear. If I had a dollar every time some liberal ahistorical nutcase comes along and attempts to prove that black is white, right is wrong, and the Bible doesn't really say what you think it says, I'd be richer than Bill Gates. What I don't understand is why these people who don't like the Bible anyways are so eager to make it into something they do like. Guilty consciences, yes? Why don't you just ignore it if you think it's bunkum? Ah, but it's the left. Anything they don't like cannot be ignored -- it must be banned or reinterpreted to mean what they like. No dissent is allowed!
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Oh boy, Incestmo is gonna love this thread.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 02/07/2011 - 7:15pm.
Let's get ready to ruuuuuuummmmmmble.
A number of the passages were mistranslated...
Submitted by Slyrr on Mon, 02/07/2011 - 8:20pm.
The passages about Lot's daughters were mistranslated over the thousands of years and the numerous hands the texts went through. Modern revelation makes clear that Lot did not 'offer his daughters' to the horny mob in Sodom/Gomorrah. And also makes clear that Lots' daughters 'dealt wickedly' when they boozed him up later and used him to father children.
And if this article's author means to use the Old Testament alone as the fulcrum of her arguments in favor of gay sex, then she's on shaky ground indeed. Christ said plainly that he came 'to fulfull the law' and that it had an end in him. (Thank goodness too - besides ending the Mosaic practice of blood sacrifices, it also ended the other things in the law of Moses that are outdated - like parents being able to stone their children to death for rebelliousness)
But even pointing all this out to the pro-gay community will do nothing to convince them. What they are doing is called 'wresting the scriptures' - taking a couple words here, a passage or two there, and splicing them together in an attempt to argue in favor of whoredoms, gay sex and fornication. Like when Jesus says that men should love one another - the gay community takes that to mean erotic love, rather than the non-erotic kind where men simply deal honestly, justly and kindly to one another.
The gays and those who support them have their minds like concrete - all mixed up and permanently set. They want gay sex and gay marriage, and no scriptural evidence to the contrary matters to them. They are like unto the people mentioned in the parable of Lazarus and the rich man - 'there are those who will not believe even if an angel declares it to them'.
Debunk
Submitted by Gothampc on Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:12pm.
The examples used are the same old scriptures that have been debunked ages ago. Why waste paper rehashing the same old ground.
"Naomi and Ruth, who vow to love one another until death"
That doesn't mean they were sexual lovers. Ruth married Boaz and had a child. Both Naomi and Ruth would have been well taken care of under Jewish tradition because they were both widows. Ruth didn't have to remarry.
If I need advice on meat, I
Submitted by Soldat44 on Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:12pm.
If I need advice on meat, I go to a butcher.
If I do not feel well, I go to a doctor.
If I have questions about my salvation, I go to my priest.
I sure as hell would not put my trust on any of these subjects to a 'journalist'
God help us.
advice?
Submitted by Agnostic on Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:15pm.
The following is a compohensive list of all things I would go to a 'journalist' on which to get advice:
Amazing how these Liberals
Submitted by Free Stinker on Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:31pm.
Amazing how these Liberals remove all context when they cite Biblical passages.
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"Do not do this evil thing!"
Submitted by Quasi-socialist on Mon, 02/07/2011 - 11:00pm.
That's what the angels tell Lot, when he suggests offering his daughters to the mob. Hardly a case that their virginty was his to dispense.
And Naomi and Ruth were daughter-in-law and mother-in-law not a lesbian couple.
I think a sincere reading would be a start.
I'm guessing this is why in
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 02/07/2011 - 11:09pm.
I'm guessing this is why in the Dark Ages the Catholic church didn't want people reading the Bible for themselves. Reading the Bible with a secular perspective, without reading with the intent of God, it can be used for evil purposes. Sadly, it goes to show that some will distort anything and everything for their own ends.
In the Dark Ages, most were
Submitted by redfish on Tue, 02/08/2011 - 12:48am.
In the Dark Ages, most were illiterate just because young people had to help with work rather than sit in a study and learn Latin.
You think the same people who
Submitted by hillbillyhatfield on Mon, 02/07/2011 - 11:13pm.
You think the same people who don't understand the constitution, and have a hard time with the definition of "is" could figure the deep meaning of the holy bible. I would have a easier job of splitiing a atom with my pocketknife.
"...figuring out what it
Submitted by redfish on Tue, 02/08/2011 - 12:35am.
"...figuring out what it means to live in bodies that are filled with longing.”
This is the first problem they have -- they see all their desires as a product of their body, which they can't control, and not of themselves.
“The Bible doesn’t have to be an invader, conquering bodies and wills with its pronouncements and demands..."
Pointing out that you have free will, that your bodies are not "filled with longing", but YOU are, and you can change your point of view, isn't conquering you, invading you, or demanding anything of you, its freeing you. The more you aren't controlled by your longings, the more free you are.
Interpretation of the events in the Bible is fair game, the truth of the Bible is in revelation, meaning that whomever reads the Bible has to determine for themselves what truth was revealed. However, religion has taken a certain point of view about sexuality for thousands of years, and either they can start by understanding that point of view, and have a conversation on it, or they can ignore it and play contrarian games with Biblical interpretation.
"university scholars'
Submitted by Cowboy on Tue, 02/08/2011 - 5:17am.
"university scholars' interpreting the Bible?
Now THAT'S funny...
The Bible
Submitted by MacWell on Tue, 02/08/2011 - 7:02am.
First off, it is impossible to not understand the Bible, if one can read, that is. Of course people have been doing this since the Garden, that is, trying to make the bible say something it doesn't. Just look around at all of the fake christian denominations that have sprung up. Hey, don't want to listen to what God said?, no problem, just take scripture out of context and create a cult around it. Being a Christian leader in any way, is a very difficult thing. One must be above reproach, that is, saying or doing anything that might bring shame to God&'s word. Look folks, both testiments were written in the common language of the day. OT in Hebrew and NT in Greek. Also, interesting is the fact that the NT is written in the Greek of the common man, and not the Greek of the nobles.
I'm too lazy
Submitted by GW on Tue, 02/08/2011 - 11:41am.
...to check if Lisa Miller included the traditional interpretation of the Song of Songs (a.k.a. The Song of Solomon) in her article. I also wonder if she contrasted the new interpretations to John Paul II's 'stuffy' Theology of the Body.