WaPo's Capehart: Obama and Boehner Should Bond Over Cigarettes
Forget beer and/or Slurpee summits. In a Post Partisan blog entry from last night reprinted in today's Washington Post, writer Jonathan Capehart suggested President Obama and presumptive-Speaker John Boehner (R) should forge a bond over cigarette breaks during legislative negotiations:
Regular smoke breaks on the Truman Balcony, at Camp David or wherever they choose to sneak them might be what's needed to bridge the partisan divide and ratchet down the heated rhetoric in Washington. Throw in a glass of merlot and we might have the makings of, if not a beautiful bipartisan friendship, then a working relationship that makes compromises or consensus easier to reach.
I will deserve every bit of criticism I get for encouraging the president to keep smoking. But for the sake of bipartisanship, the Democratic Party (not to mention his 2012 reelection ambitions) and the nation, I urge Obama not to give up smoking just yet. Besides, there hasn't been a hint that he's having much luck doing so -- or that Boehner has any desire to stop. So why not put their dirty and unhealthy habit to good use?
Of course I tend to think Capehart's more concerned about Obama's reelection chances, not bipartisan bonhomie, going up in smoke. Nonetheless it's interesting to see such a politically incorrect recommendation coming from a mainstream media journalist.
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A politically incorrect recommendation born out of...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 5:06pm.
panic and desperation...Could this be an indication of just how panicked and desperate the Dems/libs really are about "The One's" re-election chances in '12? Sure sounds like it to me.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
I don't think even cigarettes
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 5:29pm.
I don't think even cigarettes could help forge a bond between these 2, even if Obama and Boehner were on a deserted island with one cigarette to share.
Of course the CW says Obama would just want to tax cigarettes even more, while Boehner would argue against.
Maybe only if, in addition to the smokes they had...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 6:17pm.
a big bottle of Jack Daniels, too! lol!
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Now you're talking. As my
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 6:22pm.
Now you're talking.
As my former namesake once said...
"If I'm happy or I'm sad
Jack Daniels makes me feel alright
Raise your glass up high and we'll sing on and on and on and on..."
The reference to ol Teddy nothwithstanding...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 6:30pm.
I have an image in my head of a slightly snockered Boehner and Obama, locking arms and singing school songs, each with a glass in hand...
It would be nice to think that the president and the speaker can get together for a drink after work like President Reagan and Speaker Tip O'Neill used to do...I guess those days are gone forever and that's too bad.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Wanna go grab a whiskey after
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 6:30pm.
Wanna go grab a whiskey after work, PrairieSky? We can bond too!
I'm buying.
Tempting offer DK, but actually I'm more of a...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 6:49pm.
glass of wine or a gin and tonic girl...LOL! I do use some Jack Daniels when I cook though...It makes a killer glaze for salmon and is awesome in bar-b-que sauce and bread pudding! YUM!
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Cooking with whiskey!
Submitted by Rukus on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 7:20pm.
OMO! I love you! I actually add some whiskey to my bbq sauce AND to my steak marinade! YUM! : )
It is delish, isn't it???
Submitted by PrairieSky on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 7:53pm.
Whiskey just adds a whole yummy dimension to some dishes/foods...It's just scrumptious! :-)
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
I'll have a virtual glass of
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 6:57pm.
I'll have a virtual glass of wine with you anyway. A wine summit, if you will. And thanks for the BBQ tip. I don't know that I could just throw away Jack like that, but perhaps if I bought a bottle for that sole purpose I wouldn't have an issue. ; )
You betcha...Sounds good...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 7:55pm.
to me...I know it may sound like sacrilege to use a bottle of Jack to cook with, but it is scrumptious in stuff, and if you're not a whiskey afficionado (to drink), that's the next best thing.
Cheers!
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Well, my wife just didn't
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 7:59pm.
Well, my wife just didn't come with the cooking gene, so I'm going to add this to MY list of "Things to Cook for Dinner." Thanks again for the suggestion.
There used to be a cooking/baking/recipe forum. I wonder if we lost all that with the new site.
Good question...I wonder if we lost that too...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 9:28pm.
I haven't gone looking for it since the new site change...Hope we haven't lost it.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
So far I haven't seen any old
Submitted by Free Stinker on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 9:31pm.
So far I haven't seen any old messages restored.
And thus the upgraded FAIL continues . . . :-(
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Oh man...That's disappointing...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 9:36pm.
As does sometimes happen in computer switchovers, we may have lost all that...If that is what has happened, that's very unfortunate.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
What's even more disappointing...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 9:46pm.
...is that we weren't given any advance notice that pre-changeover posts would be lost so we could copy and save at least some of it to files.
Jer
Yep
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 9:57pm.
Just when I was getting a big fat "file" on you
Now, now...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 10:01pm.
Let's play nice...lol!
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Guys, Yahoo and Google cache
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 10:33pm.
Guys, Yahoo and Google cache still have much of the old content alive and well, but you have to search for exact article titles. Click the cache link and it'll show you a text only page with all of our old comments.
D K...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 10:57pm.
When you say exact article title, do you mean the complete verbatim headline of the blog? That could require a massive amount of time, since there are hundreds and hundreds of blogs, many of which you don't know whether you commented on or not.
What about "key words" in comments? No good?
Jer
finding old posts
Submitted by Denny Crane on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 1:19am.
it's difficult but it might help a little.
Since NB has all the old stories without comments, you can find the stories. Then use the URL to paste into google cache, it might bring up the old one with comments.
"Lib free or die"
We Are The 53%
Thanks, Denny...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 1:23am.
I'll try it.
Jer
You can try key words and
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 1:06pm.
You can try key words and they do come up as they did before in the google results.
Because the forums still have the titles but not the messages, you can google search those titles and find the bulk of the discussion as text only. It's not pretty, but it is there. Good luck.
yes. that is true.
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 10:17pm.
You can search for "guttermouth where are your children" to find the posts guttermouth used to scare women here and then get banned, only to be back within days under a new moniker.
That is half correct, which
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 10:27pm.
That is half correct, which is a primary basis for JWF's strongest arguments.
Anyone is more than welcome to read about the multitude of back-and-forths I had with a number of various members, and only a fool wouldn't recognize the viciousness was on all sides, and normally several on one (yeah, me).
I have made amends with many of those people, and anyone whose opinion matters to me knows I'm not that person. You on the other hand can't quite get over it, and have made it your current goal in life to make sure you point this out every single day that I post. It was 2 years ago, man. Let it go.
As I said, anyone is welcome to read the truth. It's all in google cache.
Whatever nwahs.
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 10:50pm.
You iz reformed. You scared off several women that have never returned to post again. Anyone is more than welcome to read about it. You is fool one user and make amends nah. Yep, fooled real good.
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They engage in off list email dialogues to gain the confidence and trust of influential individuals on the list. They are friendly and humorous in the posts, to put you at ease with their persona. They have a well-thought-through story such that the persona seems to be very real. They will give apparently personal and intimate information, particularly in off list emails.
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Iz fool some people. Good job trollie. Too bad you did not fool everyone.
Kindly provide that list so as to bring us all up to date.
You deny you are nwahs. If we had a list of your banned monikers, boy that sure would help out.
Vet LIE #287: Ted is
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 10:54pm.
Vet LIE #287:
Ted is nwahs.
I DEMAND you apologize for making up lies about me.
I am the Bully Buster.
No nwahs.
Submitted by The Vet on Wed, 11/10/2010 - 12:35am.
Crybaby. Word bully calls you by the name of another viscious nasty troll just as nasty as you and the troll's diapers fill up.
Tell us the statute of limitations of harassing women by talking constantly about thier children. Where is the apology to all the women that no longer post here.
LOL, Boudin...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 10:50pm.
True. That's the other side of the coin. Words can't come back to haunt you. :-)
Jer
Very true, Jer...It would have been nice to be able...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 9:59pm.
to have the chance to save what we wanted to...Do we know for certain that this is all lost? Has it been addressed here by Matt or anyone? If it has, I must have missed it.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Prairie...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 10:46pm.
As far as I know, it's never been addressed. I believe the issue had been menitoned in passing some time ago by choselife and maybe others, but I specifically raised it two or three days ago on another thread, but no response..
Jer
Photos
Submitted by Beckiboo on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 9:06pm.
I never see photos of Obama smoking. But I wouldn't be surprised to see plenty of Boehner. Double standard, doncha know?
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