ABCNews.com Misleading Headline: Iowa Gives 'Thumbs Up' to Same-sex Marriage

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NewsBusters.org | Screencap of ABCNews.com from April 2, 2009"Iowa Gives Gay Marriage a Thumbs Up," trumpets the front page teaser headline on ABCNews.com. But, the subhead explains, it was "Iowa's Supreme Court" not the people via their legislature or direct referendum that opened the door to same-sex marriage by finding the state's ban on the ceremony "violates [the state] Constitution."

The accompanying photo illustration (shown at right) depicts two (presumably) masculine, wedding-band-sporting left hands embracing. In the background is a long, unfurled rainbow flag, held aloft by marchers in a parade.

The story itself was filed by Amy Lorentzen of the Associated Press.  Lorentzen jumped quickly into the jubilant reaction of gay marriage activists, but found no space for comment from traditional values advocates in her 18-paragraph story. 


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"The Domino Effect".

I could rail against rogue judges inflicting Political Correctness, and trampling the Constitution in the name of 'tolerance' and 'civil liberites'.

But I think it's more important to point out what this is really about - a leftist organized combination against religion.  The comments I read about this had politicians saying things like 'Hopefully other states will follow'.

This proves what they're really after.  With every state that 'legalizes' gay through a rogue court system that overthrows the will of the people, they hope to spread out to other states.  Until at last, any state that isn't pro-gay is 'forced' to accept it.

And then, it will be churches that don't accept 'gay' that will be forced to accept it.  After the prop 8 thing in California, I read the posts from angry gays who loudly screeched that it wouldn't be long before they 'forced' Mormons to conduct gay marriages in thier temples.

That, and the entire Iowa business proves undeniably that this was never about 'gay rights' or 'equality' or 'tolerance'.  It's about forcing religious groups and institutions to accept perversion - or else.  

Just read the comments.  'Here comes the God squad' said a Democrat, grinning at what he percieved as a loss for the GOP and Christianity.

They declared war against "Jesusland" in 2004.  This is just another one of their battles.

"And then, it will be

"And then, it will be churches that don't accept 'gay' that will be forced to accept it.  After the prop 8 thing in California, I read the posts from angry gays who loudly screeched that it wouldn't be long before they 'forced' Mormons to conduct gay marriages in their temples." This is a clear violation of our American Constitution, it's a violation of the First Amendment, because this is to be NO law prohibiting the "free exercise thereof". This is the tyranny of the hate filled liberal left.

This is the tyranny of the

This is the tyranny of the hate filled liberal left.

How exactly does hate relate to the implementation of gay marriage? 

~How exactly does hate relate to the implementation of gay

marriage?

 

This is the tyranny of the hate filled liberal left.

 

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

So the hate filled left are

So the hate filled left are so full of hate that they want gays to have the same marital rights as heterosexuals?  I'm still not following.  Sorry.  Where's the hate?

~Walk into a gay bar

Tell them that marriage is about the union of a man and a woman. 

Then duck. 

Troll.

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Wow.  You were so pleasant

Wow.  You were so pleasant yesterday and yet so quickly you resort to name calling.

more anagrams

there are 542 arrangements to your screen name.  Did you register them all?

~My dear Guttermouth

Do you have nothing better to do?

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Do you have any idea how

Do you have any idea how many screen names I have?  I may even be on your buddy list for all you know.  Now go report me again.

~That is incredibly pathetic

Bye-bye now.

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

It's kind of disingenous to

It's kind of disingenous to claim that that example is exemplary of "hate".  You'd have to duck - or better yet, run - if you walked into a bar in South Boston and yelled "Red Sox suck!"; but that doesn't make Red Sox fans inherently hateful people.

And besides, you'd be pissed too if someone came into a place where you were hanging out and announced that you're not entitled to the same social institutions as they are.

marriage is about the union of a man and a woman. 

Not in MA, CT, and IA!  Boo-yah.

~Jason

It's guttermouth again. Stay behind the yellow tape.

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

I didn't realize that until

I didn't realize that until his most recent post.  Looks like this incarnation of whomever he is just got booted.  Is that what "Access denied" usually means?

~Yup

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

cl3x

You are like the Troll Whisperer.  LOL!  You know you didn't have to TELL GM to go into a gay bar...  He is probably posting from one.

~Sheryl

Come now, gay people have some standards. ;-)

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Yeah

  Yer right.  I imagine he got banned from all the bars like he keeps getting banned from NB.  Probably walked in and laid a turd in the middle of the floor and was hoping everyone would come around and praise him for it. (just like here)

JasonC

"Not in MA, CT, and IA!  Boo-yah."

Oh, so you're happy? What other things/words do you want completely redefined? Anything and everything? Boo-yah to anything?

Buildings are no longer places you live in with brick and cement, or made of wood logs, with roofs and doors. "Buildings" are now green goo. So, time to party? Boo-yah? 

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

What other things/words do

What other things/words do you want completely redefined?\

Just that one...47 more times.

JC

And why are you championing and wanting to see this happen?

And be precise.

And visit my woodshed forum:

http://newsbusters.o...

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

Because I just saw Milk

Because I just saw Milk last week and I was sooo moved.

No, actually because I'm personally and politically invested in gay rights and I see this as a milestone and as The Right Thing.

Has anyone on NB other than me ever actually been to a gay wedding?

~No

But I've also never been to a strip club, peep show, brothel or a porn site. Does that make me a 'sexophobe'?

 

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

I don't really think one

I don't really think one has to attend a gay wedding in order to "get" the issue.  Just curious.  Also curious as to whether you would attend one if it was a good friend or family member getting married...

~Jason

I'm sure you realize that 'sexophobe' was a joke. And as for your question..probably not, but I've never been in that position so I really don't know.

. 

JasonC

But you want this imposed on other states? Places/areas where you don't live that have no affect on you?

You realize, you then have to take your cause everywhere, right? Invest in gay rights in the Middle East. Make sure they start to recognize gays/homosexuals and their lifestyle. Screw that it goes totally against their religion. The achievement of full gay rights, everywhere, is The Right Thing. Now go.

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

Why do I have to take my

Why do I have to take my cause everywhere?  Generally, one focuses one's political/ideological energy on the place where one is a taxpayer/citizen/voter and has an immediate investment in whatever the issue is.  So while I would like to see gay acceptance the world over, I think I'll begin with my own country, which happens to be an open and liberal society which purports to offer equal institutional rights for all, as opposed to countries which haven't even this pretext.

As for wishing it upon states other than the one in which I live; are you from Iowa?  If not, why are you posting here?

i'm sure you still

i'm sure you still discriminate against peds, prostitutes, rapists, etc...

shame on you for denying them equal rights man...

I think you may have missed

I think you may have missed his point.  Being gay is not a crime.  Being a pedophile, prostitute (in most states), or rapist is illegal.

No no, he got the point. 

No no, he got the point.  He truly belives gay people are morally equivalent to pedophiles and rapists.  It's well-documented.  Apparently any deviation from normative behavior is equally evil, whether it involves a consensual loving relationship or rape and exploitation.

In that case it's just sad.

In that case it's just sad.  Keep up the fight!

PS - the video link has been

PS - the video link has been pulled.

ABC

The New ABC Motto.... "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story",,,,  No, wait a minute, that's been their motto for the last 60 years....  Sorry....

Every state needs a Prop 8,

Every state needs a Prop 8, something tells me they would all pass except maybe in Vermont.

Iowa's constitutional

Iowa's constitutional amendment process is pretty lengthy and difficult by design. It can be done but will take a while. I believe they have to have two consecutive years where both houses of the legislature pass the amendment, and only then it goes to the ballot.

So at the earliest we're looking at 2010 or 2011 for a constitutional amendment before Iowa voters. 

Clarification of Iowa's amendment process

Not quite, Ken.  The requirement under Article X is that a proposed amendment must be approved by two successive legislatures.  Let's say the amendment passed this year.  It must be passed again by the legislature elected in the 2010 election.  That means it would be 2011 at the earliest before the amendment would make it onto the ballot.  Typically those questions are voted on during general elections, so in this imaginary scenario we Iowans probably couldn't vote on it before 2012.

The constitution of Iowa also requires this question to be put on the general election ballot every 10 years:

"Shall there be a convention to revise the constitution, and propose amendment or amendments to same?"

If the voters approve, the next legislature would have to set the wheels in motion to call the convention.  The next time that question comes up on the ballot is next year.  So there is a chance that we could force the issue sooner.

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

Thanks for clarifying that.

Thanks for clarifying that.

   Having that last word

   Having that last word on everything by these black robbed activists is not in the Constitution.  This is a power grab that unequals the supposed three equal branches of government.

Why it's wrong

Here's a crucial paragraph from the opinion:

"The purpose of Iowa’s marriage law is to provide an institutional basis for defining the fundamental relational rights and responsibilities of persons in committed relationships. It also serves to recognize the status of the parties’ committed relationship. In this case, the court concluded, plaintiffs are similarly situated compared to heterosexual persons; they are in committed relationships and official recognition of their status provides an institutional basis for defining their fundamental relational rights and responsibilities."

First, the opinion declares that the couples are already in "committed" relationships. That, after all, is what makes committed same-sex couples equal to man-woman couples. They're both committed. But that's the problem. Commitment is used broadly. What did they commit to?

  • If couples come to a state to recognize a commitment that already exists, then it follows that the state didn't structure that commitment.
  • But if the government didn't structure the commitment in the first place, there's no legal standard by which to hold that one commitment is the same as another.
  • This opinion implies that anyone can claim to commit to anything, and call it marriage - and the state is required to recognize it as a marriage.
  • Therefore, it's impossible to claim any inequality. It's comparing apples and oranges.

To be clear, there's a difference between a marriage and an ordinary contract. When you draw up an ordinary contract, the state really doesn't care what you agreed to (assuming you haven't broken existing laws). All the state cares about is that you agreed to it. If you agreed to stand on a street corner with a shaved head, the court doesn't care whether it was a stupid thing to agree to. You agreed to it, so you can be sued and found liable if you break the agreement.

Marriage, on the other hand, isn't an open-ended agreement. For the state to recognize a marriage, the content of the agreement is specifically defined, not by the spouses, but by the state. The state defines what marriage means; in essence, they draw up the contract, and the spouses merely agree to it. Couples can't make that up on their own.

_______

There's so much subterfuge in this opinion that we could go on for hours. For instance, the court claims that a key issue is the raising of children. But they conveniently skip over the idea that marriage has anything to do with the bearing of children. For someone to claim that same-sex couples can raise children, they have to skip over the fact that someone outside the marriage is necessary to conceive the children. Does it make sense to justify a marriage on the grounds that someone outside the marriage can participate in conceiving the children?

What about raising children from previous marriages? Does it make sense to justify a permanent contract (which marriage is) by depending on a previous broken contract?

What about children conceived outside of marriage? And that's the central problem. The idea of same-sex marriage inevitable depends on separating the conception of children from it, thereby denying the exclusivity of marriage.

and still at the back of

and still at the back of the bus - peds, prostitutes, drug dealers, pot smokers, thieves, murderers...

let's make it all constitutional - we must stop hating these people!

who's worst prez ever now?!!

KC

just wanted to take a moment to let you know how much I enjoy reading your stuff.  You should have a blog so you can have a more cohesive place to put all of these things, as well.

Thank you

When I come on NewsBusters, I don't have to worry about profanity, clearing out inappropriate posts, and I find the people here very generous. I get all of the benefits with having to do all the nasty chores.

Why would any of us want the headaches? I appreciate the stuff that the NB staff does. They make some very interesting conversations possible.  

the jubilant reaction of

the jubilant reaction of gay marriage activists

 I've spent the morning being disgusted (yet unsurprised) to witness so many of them spewing hatred and bigotry toward Christians, married heterosexual couples with families, and the elderly while they "celebrate" their "victory over hatred and bigotry."  So Lorentzen and the AP pretending the non-jubilant don't exist seems like a step up to me.

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who's worst prez ever now?!!

Hurray for Iowa!  Welcome

Hurray for Iowa!  Welcome to the club.

Who's next?

  Well actually Iowa isn't

  Well actually Iowa isn't for this.  It is now being forced onto them without their consent.  If they had wanted it, it would have been voted in already.

then hurray for

then hurray for un-constitutional and tyrannical judicial fiat!

hurray for the anti-Christ's...

hurray for democrats...

i think that about covers it....

who's worst prez ever now?!!

Hawaii, next, no worries, A vote from the people? , hahaha yes

Save the ecomony !it's sooo slow in the tourist relm.

Advancing equal LGBT rights can be a win-win for Hawaiian legislators
looking to add a boost to a sagging economy and lawmakers seeking to do
the right thing. 

Well well well still NO, by the skin on chicken lips

Hawaii{me!} voters approved a constitutional
amendment that defined marriage as a heterosexual union in 1998,
overturning a state Supreme Court ruling that favored gay marriage
advocates.

only a matter of time JC

divided we fall.

P.R.I.N.T. Money   30 sec YT 

A victory for the American

A victory for the American people.

Iowa's history revised instantly in Wikipedia

I just took a look at Wikipedia's entry for "Iowa".  Under the "History" heading is a sub-head declaring Iowa a "leader in civil rights".  There you find three examples:  Iowa's Supreme Court rejected slavery in 1839, before Iowa was a state;  Iowa was the first state to allow women to practice law in 1869; and today's gay marriage ruling.

That didn't take long.

One other thought:  Iowa has been a state since 1846.  We're still using our original constitution, although it has been amended frequently.  So why did it take 162 1/2 years to find a right to gay marriage? 

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.