President Obama may need to call out Israel on its compromised "moral standing" in the world, Time's Joe Klein [file photo at right] argues in a March 17 Swampland blog post.
So what does Klein see as Israel's sin? Prime Minister-elect Benjamin Netanyahu's choice of the hawkish Avigdor Lieberman for foreign secretary.
Lieberman's campaign for prime minister was distinguished by his call for a loyalty pledge that citizens would have to sign in order to vote in Israeli elections:
Jeff Goldberg on Avigdor Lieberman. I second the motion--and add this: I suspect that President Obama is going to have to say something about Israel's selection of a politician who has frequently made racist noises as its Foreign Minister. He should be very clear that this severely compromises Israel's moral standing in the world.
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In any case, this is a moment of sadness and embarrassment for those of us who support Israel's right to exist and a two-state solution along the lines offered by Bill Clinton in 2000.
Of course, Klein had nothing to say of the compromised "moral standing" of the Hamas-led regime in the Gaza Strip or what President Obama should do to marginalize the terrorist organization as he plans to move forward in the peace process between Israel and the Fatah-led Palestinian Authority in the West Bank.
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Is this guy NUTS?
March 17, 2009 - 12:39 ET by DelsaSOBama "lecture Israel on MORALS?"
This guy the others like him are doing DRUGS!
Can you rephrase that?
March 17, 2009 - 12:52 ET by berthugginsYour last sentence doesn't actually make sense.
And what does morals have to do with doing drugs?
~Can you rephrase that?
March 17, 2009 - 12:59 ET by choselife3xYour last sentence doesn't actually make sense.
"And what does morals have to do with doing drugs" is grammatically incorrect.
Guttermouth.
Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
I...just...can't...get...this
March 17, 2009 - 13:18 ET by berthugginsI...just...can't...get...this damn...gum...off my shoe!
Oh, it's you again.
~"You have no idea, sweetheart"
March 17, 2009 - 13:28 ET by choselife3xHope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
Thank you choselife3x
March 17, 2009 - 13:35 ET by DelsaI did not answer this illiterate boob, simply because he/she, IS illiterate!
Unfortunately, he/she, would not understand how the words "do" and "does" are used?
~My pleasure, Delsa
March 17, 2009 - 13:37 ET by choselife3xGuttermouth reincarnated himself as berthuggins and came back to pick another fight with me. He doesn't seem to like how it's turning out this time, either. :-O
Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
Obviously,
March 17, 2009 - 13:41 ET by Delsaberthuggins is out-gunned, out-classed, and out-witted!
It is simply not a fair fight!
Okay, I get this guttermouth
March 17, 2009 - 13:43 ET by berthugginsOkay, I get this guttermouth comparison, but you're really making yourself look like a fool. I get that you're lonely and your 3 neglected children don't provide enough intellectual stimulation for you, but to prance around like some kind of hero...aside from the few other children on this website who appreciate your lack of any useful skill to the this world (or website for that matter), most people must agree that you're nothing more than an uneducated moron whose best counter argument is normally something like "I just kicked your a$$ up and down this site." You think you have something to prove to me? Like I already said, you are nothing more than gum on the bottom of my shoe. A little bit annoying, but in a bigger picture, completely worthless. Fire away.
yikes
March 17, 2009 - 14:08 ET by SickofLibsI'll get the wooden stake and garlic necklace.
~No need, you just blew YOURSELF out of the water
March 17, 2009 - 14:42 ET by choselife3xYou just quoted something I said to guttermouth.
Excuse me, I think I cracked a rib laughing.....
Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
→ As opposed to?
March 17, 2009 - 14:46 ET by Cool ArrowIf he blew himself in the water, he'd probably drown.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
~Nah
March 17, 2009 - 14:52 ET by choselife3xSh!t floats.
Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
→ That figgers
March 17, 2009 - 14:57 ET by Cool ArrowShoulda' known he's a vegetarian.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Gee Whiz Girl, HOW do you
March 17, 2009 - 14:54 ET by sherylsimsGee Whiz Girl, HOW do you get so far under these people's skin the way you do? It makes me think that guttermouth has a *thing* for you. Understandable of course, as loveable as you are.
~I think they can tell
March 17, 2009 - 15:10 ET by choselife3xThat I'm laughing at them.
Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
You should feel kind of like
March 17, 2009 - 15:19 ET by berthugginsYou should feel kind of like I succeeded in completely throwing you and your minions off topic once again.
How's this everyone - IT IS ME!!! GUTTERMOUTH, IN MY TRIUMPHANT RETURN!!!!
Woohoo!!!
Happy now?
hm
March 17, 2009 - 15:22 ET by katainkentI wonder what the rules are in regards to a person who was previously banned, making a new ID and posting again.
You might want to look into
March 17, 2009 - 15:28 ET by berthugginsYou might want to look into the reasons a person was banned in the first place. Then you'll realize how invalid this entire site becomes.
By the way, I have a dozen logins for this site. Keep banning me and I'll keep using other names. You're all so good with your research, perhaps you can find some of my other monikers.
if you started making sense
March 17, 2009 - 15:29 ET by katainkentwe'd probably never notice you again.
→ Funny gutter
March 17, 2009 - 15:34 ET by Cool ArrowThen you'll realize how invalid this entire site becomes.
And you, Bertha, might question why you would again work your way into a site you view as invalid.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
→ Immediate ban
March 17, 2009 - 15:29 ET by Cool ArrowWhen it's been brought to the Mods'attention in the past, the original ban applies to the fakir.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
I'm just bummed that I can't
March 17, 2009 - 15:32 ET by berthugginsI'm just bummed that I can't use this name anymore. I found it rather clever to name myself after a famous troll.
I find it even more entertaining that such a moderator wouldn't do his research. However, the idea of banning someone with a differing opinion certainly means one thing to me - CENSORSHIP! But then again, the people on this site have never had much concern when their freedoms are taken away. Right?
→ Bertha
March 17, 2009 - 15:35 ET by Cool ArrowYou weren't banned for your "views".
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
I vaguely remember you as
March 17, 2009 - 15:37 ET by sherylsimsI vaguely remember you as guttermouth. You were probably banned for the way you stated your differing views, not because you had them.
BS
March 17, 2009 - 15:40 ET by berthugginsThat's a load of crap. Please tell me what kind of posting should be banned? Strong counter-arguments are all guttermouth was guilty of. And a little pest extermination.
Just a wild guess here...
March 18, 2009 - 16:00 ET by Indiana JoeMaybe this "kind of posting" should be banned.
"Okay, I get this guttermouth comparison, but you're really making yourself look like a fool. I get that you're lonely and your 3 neglected children don't provide enough intellectual stimulation for you, but to prance around like some kind of hero...aside from the few other children on this website who appreciate your lack of any useful skill to the this world (or website for that matter), most people must agree that you're nothing more than an uneducated moron whose best counter argument is normally something like "I just kicked your a$$ up and down this site." You think you have something to prove to me? Like I already said, you are nothing more than gum on the bottom of my shoe. A little bit annoying, but in a bigger picture, completely worthless. Fire away."
I'd say this meets the criteria of adding nothing to ANY debate, while being needlessly insulting and defamatory to an individual.
And that's no BS.
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..." - The Who
~IJ
March 18, 2009 - 16:13 ET by choselife3xI believe guttermouth has been re-banned.
Maybe next time he recycles he won't seek me out. Maybe.
Hope and Change= Despair and Socialism
Guttermouth called this
March 17, 2009 - 15:22 ET by berthugginsGuttermouth called this little parasite out months ago. The only way 3x could get under his skin would be if she actually infected him with the disease she is. Hmm...
Well Bertha
March 17, 2009 - 15:25 ET by sherylsimsWe know that didn't happen because if you had been infected with it you would be witty and likeable. (And maybe who knows, happy)
I haven't been this happy in
March 17, 2009 - 15:30 ET by berthugginsI haven't been this happy in months, and my happiness certainly has nothing to do with what some stay-at-home mom says on a blog, while she neglects her children. Yeah, that's right - keep up the good work.
~Considering I HAVEN'T gotten 'under your skin'
March 17, 2009 - 15:51 ET by choselife3xYou sure do talk about me a lot.
Stop sending me buddy requests, please. You're grossing me out.
Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
Okay. Thanks. And now I
March 17, 2009 - 16:17 ET by berthugginsOkay. Thanks. And now I get to call you one name I haven't before:
LIAR
Please provide some sort of proof that I've sent you a buddy request. You can take a screen shot of your computer and post it. I dare you.
→ Bravo chose
March 17, 2009 - 16:23 ET by Cool ArrowYou've driven the scoundrel into his last refuge.
Namecalling.
Game - Set - Match.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
That's funny. All I hear
March 17, 2009 - 16:33 ET by berthugginsThat's funny. All I hear are crickets. Still waiting for that screenshot dear.
Just be sure to clear the
March 17, 2009 - 16:47 ET by SickofLibsJust be sure to clear the cache before you leave the library, K?
~Hmmmmm
March 17, 2009 - 16:58 ET by choselife3xLovely is quite a stretch. I've read her posts, and there's nothing lovely about them. That is, unless you're turned on by the vile, hate spewing that regurgitates from her keyboard.
My God - Your husband must HATE you!
That's funny. I'm actually understanding 3x to be a lonely housewife pissed off at her husband for making her stay at home with the kids while he's gone all day. Tell me, 3x - when he comes home smelling like strippers, do you ask questions or do you just believe that the woman in the cubicle next to him wears REALLY heavy perfume?
You'll have to excuse 3x. He/She only watches Spongebob.
Back those statements up with fact. Or were you talking out your @ss?
And sorry, I'm not guttermouth. Although I do appreciate his/her literature.
How's this everyone - IT IS ME!!! GUTTERMOUTH, IN MY TRIUMPHANT RETURN!!!!
Woohoo!!!
Happy now?
Tell us again, who is a liar?
Hope and Change= Despair and Socialism
Still waiting.
March 17, 2009 - 17:12 ET by berthugginsStill waiting.
~See link below
March 17, 2009 - 17:28 ET by choselife3xHope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
Time to take all this to
March 17, 2009 - 16:25 ET by bigtimerTime to take all this to the Woodshed.
Please folks...
Bertha
March 17, 2009 - 16:52 ET by sherylsimsThis is where a sense of humor would have come in handy for you. You see, that was a j-o-k-e (aboutt the buddy request.) Did you really not get it?
~Guttermouth
March 17, 2009 - 17:05 ET by choselife3xShould look this up.
Hope and Change= Despair and Socialism
Obama is going to have
March 17, 2009 - 12:54 ET by SickofLibsObama is going to have something to say about Netanyahu's re-emergence?
Like he has been paying attention to anything other than getting himself elected for the last three years. Delegate that crap to a policy wonk, just tell me what to say, and let me get back to party-planning.
And Benedict Arnoldklein: please turn in your yarmulke (along with your Hamas Membership Card) for an Obama propellor beanie. It's obvious where your only allegiance lies.
SoL... Right you are...he
March 17, 2009 - 15:59 ET by bigtimerSoL...
Right you are...he and his buddies have remained mighty mum regaring Netanyahu...now haven't they.
All this man and his team are doing are using tax-payers dollars to have a four year non-stop campaign everywhere...
For heavens sake, he is going to be on Letterman Thursday night...I find that beyond despicable.
This will have to stop...I don't know what is going to have to happen, but really, enough is enough...and we thought the Clinton Duo was bad.
On Letterman, too?
March 17, 2009 - 17:02 ET by ThisnThatBT, I thought Obama was tired; worn out; too much to do. He couldn't hold a press conference with the British PM, for goodness sake! So why does he have all this extra time to go on Leno and Letterman, and to pay particular attention to Rush Limbaugh?
Something's missing here. Perhaps the truth? Perhaps some skepticism by the MSM? Perhaps both?
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The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech
Perhaps his poll numbers
March 17, 2009 - 17:07 ET by bigtimerPerhaps his poll numbers dropping...the guy had done nothing in his louse-bound life but organize (ACORN) and campaign, he knows no different.
The majority of people are going to be sick of this soon...I don't care who you are...wait until Cap and Trade passes...after the next winter gets here if this passes, which it will, there is going to be outrage the likes of which they are going to be surprised about in my opinion...some RINOs too...
It's the narcissism of course
March 17, 2009 - 17:25 ET by slickwillie2001Obammy will go on Leno and Letterman because they are liberal suckups who will allow him to vet easy questions beforehand. At a side-by-side press conference with a foreign leader, foreign press will be there and they won't go along with the choreography that Obammy insists on at his usual press conferences.
Standing side by side with a foreign leader also presents the image of equals, but Obammy doesn't like situations where his magnificence is challenged. That's also why, by the way, he will continue to tolerate the abominable performance of Gibbs.
KLEIN the self hating Jew
March 17, 2009 - 12:59 ET by political mavenHow many Jewish boys of the Israeli army died trying to avoid collateral damage in a war of self defense.
this guy is scum
Is Barky gonna need his
March 17, 2009 - 13:01 ET by TeddyIs Barky gonna need his teleprompter to do that too Joe?
Or, Hey! Maybe You can author his "lecture" under the heading of Anonymous. Coward.
Self-Hate Much, Joe?
Racism
March 17, 2009 - 13:10 ET by cvgbuckeyeSince when did racism become a violation of international law or any other law for that matter.
Someone being hideously ugly is unattractive but it ain't against the law.
Someone being a horse's hind-end is unattractive but it ain't against the law.
Being a liberal is unattractive and stupid but it ain't against the law (unless I ever become King, that is).
Since the election of Chairman Obama, people throw around the word racism if a Conservative blows gas. They speak of it as if it as if it carries the death penalty and left to their own devices long enough, it likely will.
Now THAT'S the definition of "oxymoron"
March 17, 2009 - 13:02 ET by moderncommentaries83Barack Obama - who has no qualms about allowing abortions up to and including the moments before and after the birth of a living, breathing, healthy child...
Barack Obama - who has no qualms about destroying embryos in the pursuit of failed science/medicine...
Barack Obama - who has no qualms about forcing the American taxpayer to pay for abortions overseas, ESCR, and domestic abortions with our tax dollars...
Barack Obama - who has no qualms about reneging on the contractual obligations America has made with her service men and women and their medical care...
Is supposed to lecture Israel about "morals"?
The morals they refer to, of course, are the liberal moralities of passivism, capitulation to Muslim extremists, non-self defense, and total compliance with the useless body known as the UN.
They don't like the fact Israel doesn't kowtow to Iran, Palestine, etc. If Israel did, it would cease to exist. Which is, of course, what they all want.
But "Barack Obama" and "morals" - two terms that should never appear together in the same sentence...
Aut viam inveniam aut faciam
Well said!
March 17, 2009 - 13:42 ET byWell said!
The American press is
March 17, 2009 - 13:03 ET by midnight cowboyThe American press is looking more and more like Bagdad Bob each day.
As more Americans start to realize that Mr. Teleprompter is all sizzle and no steak, the media in the meantime continue with their collective heads way up their a$$e$ on this fanatical LSD trip, with rainbows, unicorns and fairies in the utopian world of Obamaland.
Foolishness
March 17, 2009 - 13:04 ET by slickwillie2001"Israel's selection of a politician who has frequently made racist noises as its Foreign Minister."
So what would Obammy's lecture be called? How about 'The Perils of Democracy'? What does he want from Israel? Maybe a coup by the liberal parties in Israel?
By the way, Obammy (PBUH) got kicked in the teeth by hezbulluh, and you wouldn't know it by reading the liberal media. Obammy approached hezbulluh and suggested a condition for talks, acceptance of Israel's existence. Nasrulluh simply refused. So much for the Doofus's 'new diplomatic approach'.
Advisor
March 17, 2009 - 13:13 ET by cvgbuckeyeMaybe Chairman Obama can send Reverend Wright to Israel to instruct them regarding their vile racism. Then he can come back and instruct Chairman Obama for another 22 years.
with these cracks i think Joe has won
March 17, 2009 - 14:27 ET by JIMMY1660an all expense paid trip, with Rev Wright to sit across from the Gaza and get an education " how to duck rockets". easy to criticize when you have not walked the walk.
BHO- ill equipped to lead America
LOVE the screen-cap!
March 17, 2009 - 13:08 ET by Indiana Joe"Joe Klein, Time Magazine... Muckraker of the Day!"
ROTFLMAO!
How apropos!
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..." - The Who
Hi IJ... That is the
March 17, 2009 - 16:02 ET by bigtimerHi IJ...
That is the first thing that stood out for me too...good ol' Mr. Anonymous... busy little bee once again.
I like the fact that Isreal
March 17, 2009 - 13:08 ET by jistincaseI like the fact that Isreal have some hawks in power again. And speaking of that I think that Isreal should give Obummer the bird.
AAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHA
March 17, 2009 - 14:34 ET by Massage_Master07The day that ANYONE from the government/msm should lecture me or anyone ELSE on the subject of morals, is the day AFTER they have taken the plank out of their own eye. Especially "president" Teleprompter (Chicago politics, D.C. style) Whorebama.
Just the very thought of that makes me laugh hysterically, while at the same time, fills me full of dread, misgivings and fear. So far, everything that he has done on the international stage makes the United States of America the laughing stock of the world.
How moral and ethical was it when he snubbed and insulted the British, not once, but TWICE? Our strongest and closest ally, by the way. By the way, Mr. "president", how did it feel to be laughed at AND be spit in the face by Hamas, Iran AND Russia? LOL
How moral and ethical is it to select a cabinet and staff FULL of lobbyists, tax cheats and outright THUGS?? Liberals in general HAVE no morals. So HOW on God's green earth can they lecture and preach about something that they have NO conception or understanding of?
Something that I once heard is very appropriate... "If it wasn't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all." LOL I think that that statement just about says it all about liberals preaching "moral standings" to someone not "enlightened" like themselves.
The day that goverment/msn/liberals have to lecture anyone about morals, first and foremost, SHOULD GET SOME!!!! Not this, "if it feels good, just do it, man." bull sh*t.
Morals are more than just "talking" about it. It is also about doing it and LIVING it. It's about taking RESPONSIBILITY for your actions. It's about doing what is RIGHT, and NOT about doing what is personally and/or politically expediant. I guess that's why honor, morals and ethics go hand in hand with one another. You really can't have ANY of them without at least having one of them.
Once you throw either morals, honor or ethics out the window, the other two are right behind it. And it is painfully obvious to me and most everyone on here, that government/msm/liberals, have lost all three in the past 30-40 years.
Klein is a useless self
March 17, 2009 - 13:40 ET byKlein is a useless self loathing idiot, who hates the fact that he's Jewish. But aside from that, how would Obama, who just sanctioned the GENOCIDE of Millions of BABIES lecture anyone on "morality"? Wouldn't he first need to have some?
next
March 17, 2009 - 13:50 ET by katainkentBill Clinton will be speaking on marital fidelity.
This must have been a really hot topic
March 17, 2009 - 15:18 ET by OxyCon...over at "JournoList".
Too funny, obama is going
March 17, 2009 - 15:28 ET by SlicksterToo funny, obama is going to tell Benjamin Netanyahu how the real world works? Ben will rip his islamic ears off.