Liberal director and conspiracy theory-loving Oliver Stone was actually "fair" to President George W. Bush in his new film "W." Indeed, Stone is practically a "historian" when it comes to chronicling the life of the nation's 43rd president, that is if you ask Newsweek's Alan Brinkley. Of course when measured up against his prior films about American presidents, it's probably not that high a bar to clear.
From his October 11 movie review, "From Man to Mockery, and Back Again":
Through most of the undistinguished history of films about American presidents, concern for truth has been in short supply.
[...]
Oliver Stone, whose new film, "W.," is his third examination of a modern president, has aspired to be different.
Oh, it gets better. You see, "W." is "sunny and sympathetic":
Almost all of Stone's important movies are dark and pessimistic, reflections of his own (and much of his generation's) disillusionment with American politics and power. So it is somewhat surprising to see in his portrait of George W. Bush a relatively sunny and sympathetic picture of perhaps the most reviled president in American history.
So why does Brinkley see "W." as a relatively fair and balanced rendering of history? For one, because leftists suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome will not find a throughly HuffPo/Daily Kos-like portrait of administration principals:
Opponents and supporters of Bush alike will find things to complain about in "W." Bush haters will be startled, and perhaps irritated, by Stone's sympathetic portrait of the young Bush—convincingly portrayed by Josh Brolin—who struggles with (and sometimes bravely stands up to) the intimidating example of his father. (In the film, Bush Sr. continually belittles his son and at one point almost engages him in a fistfight.) Viewers may be annoyed as well by Stone's uncensorious and even admiring chronicle of Bush's struggle to overcome alcoholism and his embrace of Christianity, and by the director's portrayal of Bush's 1994 campaign for governor as a skillful and charismatic effort (albeit carefully orchestrated by Karl Rove). Stone's portrayal of earnest, idealistic conviction among Bush and his advisers about the wisdom of the Iraq War is also inconsistent with the widespread belief that zealotry, deception and ambition were the real drivers of the conflict.
Of course, Brinkley fails to note any convincing evidence that George H.W. Bush was or remains a harsh, pugilistic patriarch, but the accuracy or lack thereof doesn't seem to bother him, perhaps because he chalks it up to being an "educated guess" made within the parameters of Stone's artistic license (emphasis mine):
Stone, like most others trying to chronicle their own time, has undoubtedly made educated guesses about Bush that will turn out to be wrong. But "W." is, nevertheless, different from most earlier movies about presidents (including Stone's own). Whatever its qualities as a dramatic film may be, however its portrayal of Bush may fare in the light of history, it is on the whole an honest effort to find some truth in the blizzard of partisan battles over almost everything associated with this presidency. There are no conspiracy theories, no wild speculations, no paranoia. Stone's film is not hagiography. It is not propaganda. It is, surprisingly, more or less fair.
—Ken Shepherd is Managing Editor of NewsBusters




















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Bottom line is that "W" will be in the theaters
October 13, 2008 - 10:42 ET by YahooWatcherfor about a week if it's lucky, on DVD and HBO the next week, and gross a total of about $10 million on a film that probably cost Stone $50 to $100 million to make.
Does this guy think we haven't seen the commercials?
October 13, 2008 - 10:34 ET by Dee BunkPlease! Anyone can tell from those that this is a hatchet job.
They must be worried about the box office.
Maybe the movie is slightly
October 13, 2008 - 10:39 ET by Ken ShepherdMaybe the movie is slightly less awful than the trailers make it out to be. Obviously the people they are hoping will see this are insanely liberal Bush haters who are not busy wasting their money on bill Maher's "Religulous."
That said, it's Stone and he is known for his hatchet jobs.
I agree Ken
October 13, 2008 - 18:00 ET by Dee BunkIt's probably not as bad as the commercials make it out to be, but I think he's trying to repackage it now due to Religulous and other political films lack luster performances.
Hi Dee! Happy Columbus Day !
October 13, 2008 - 10:40 ET by Free StinkerThey must think we haven't seen the commercials.
Can't wait for this movie to fail.
...and the commercials
October 13, 2008 - 11:28 ET by rimsky...and the commercials actually include a banner near the end that says something like Based on a True Story.
Stone is stoned!
I hope it does fail
October 13, 2008 - 18:01 ET by Dee Bunkbut there are a lot of Stone fans out there.
This is a joke. Just like
October 13, 2008 - 10:39 ET by motherbeltThis is a joke.
Just like athletes etc. can't "choose" whether they want to be role models, (they get "chosen" for good or ill), Stone has to realize that many uneducated people think his films are documentaries. There are thousands of people who believe that about his "JFK."
Having a disclaimer at the beginning that "this is a dramatizaion" doesn't mean squat....a lot of people think that dramatization just means an "acting out of what happened."
First of all, I'd wager
October 13, 2008 - 18:20 ET by JasonCFirst of all, I'd wager that no one on this board has seen the film yet, making all of this nothing but idle speculation. What exactly has Stone done to deserve your ire? He made THE anti-MsM film of all time, Natural Born Killers, and no less a personage than uber-traditionalist conservative Brent Bozell roundly praised his last current events-related film, 9/11.
Second, as to Motherbelt's remarks, this may be true, but it is not the fault of the filmmaker. If people are too lazy to know the real history of JFK, and then conflate reality with a serious attempt at historical fiction (be it Stone's excellent JFK or Delillo's bizarre Libra), that is their problem and no one else's. Imagine if we told elementary students not to read Johnny Tremain because of its insidious propaganda...
Who would have dreamed that when socialism came to the U.S.A.
it would be brought not by Bolsheviks in blue jeans but Wall Street
bankers in Gucci loafers?
The real history of JFK
October 13, 2008 - 18:46 ET by cocodrieHe was called a war hero for getting his boat sunk by the Japanese. He stopped the air support for the Bay of Pigs invasion guaranteeing the defeat of the Cuban liberators. Started the Vietnam war. Screwed every floozie he could sneak into the White House. Not so nice a record. I think we will see Slick willy Clinton as Pope before Stone makes an honest film.
Wow, did a conservative
October 13, 2008 - 18:50 ET by JasonCWow, did a conservative just indirectly malign the Vietnam War? Hot dang...
Who would have dreamed that when socialism came to the U.S.A.
it would be brought not by Bolsheviks in blue jeans but Wall Street
bankers in Gucci loafers?
Jason - we have seen the ads
October 13, 2008 - 18:53 ET by Dee BunkThey are bogus and show an unfair hatchet job on Bush. I could care less if he also says some nice things about him. It would be stupid to see this film unless you are a Bush hater. You are a Bush hater so go ahead and see it - we won't.
Dee, that makes not one
October 13, 2008 - 19:15 ET by JasonCDee, that makes not one lick of sense. Don't see it if you don't care too; I likewise, will not see American Carol, not because I would be horrifically offended at the roasting of Michael Moore, but because it looks so stupid. So do what you will. But let's face it: when do 30-second trailers truly reflect the nature of a film? They are cut and butchered to serve whatever purpose, to entice whatever demographic, to appeal to the broadest possible cross-section, by the marketing team (that is, those who ruin cinema in the guise of wringing dollars out of an escapism-seeking populace), not by Oliver Stone. So feel free not to see it, but that decision forecloses your ability to legitimately criticize it.
Who would have dreamed that when socialism came to the U.S.A.
it would be brought not by Bolsheviks in blue jeans but Wall Street
bankers in Gucci loafers?
wrong Jason
October 14, 2008 - 05:43 ET by Dee BunkI can criticize what I've seen from the trailers. It's an unfair hatchet job. As I said, I don't care if he is more sympathetic to him in other parts, what is shown in the trailers is a bogus untrue interpretation that I don't care to see. And I will criticize it over and over - anytime someone brings it up.
I'm glad to know you are not offended by criticism of Michael Moore, but it's got nothing to do with this.
I repeat what I said before
October 14, 2008 - 06:04 ET by cocodrieI repeat what I said before - Slick-Willy Clinton will be pope before Stone makes an honest film.
cocodrie
October 14, 2008 - 06:17 ET by AgnosticYou may be joking but I've already read on other sites a call for Obama to place Hillary on the Supreme Court and Bill as US Ambassador to the UN.
Fun stuff.
Agnostic
October 14, 2008 - 06:30 ET by cocodrieI said it in a joking way but that is my honest opinion of Stone. That probably is correct because they will have important positions in his administration if he is elected. I'm praying to God that Hussein Obama joins George McGovern in the gistory books as another loser.
How long?
October 14, 2008 - 07:22 ET by AgnosticStone's political opinions are a joke for the same reason that so many of the extreme liberals are hard to believe; they live a life isolated from the actions of others. Either through wealth, fame, predominately liberal workplaces (government offices, schools) or self isolation from competing ideas these extremist seem to want to defing the political atmosphere of the country without ever being exposed to the ultimate failure of their ideas.
As for Obama going down as a failure; I don't think that is going to happen. If the miracle occurs and McCain/Palin somehow win we will be still have the same problems we are currently facing with four years of an increasingly enraged media blaming every congressional mistake on the Republicans. The only question is how long the media can keep up the meniacal claims of reporting the news and have enough people believe them to influence the next election. Should the republicans win and if the media can keep it up for four more years then Obama will be able to walk into office practically without campaigning. Remember McCain is still McCain and if he wins it is still going to be an uphill battle to find positive things to say about him. Right now he is better than the alternative but if he wins then it will just be the potential 'across the aisle' presidency.
Dee, if you're so confident
October 16, 2008 - 12:07 ET by JasonCDee, if you're so confident that an entire film can be deconstructed and pinned down via it's trailers, you really need to check out some of the "recut" projects on youtube. Editing and manipulation can make a film look like absolutely everything. Judge Stone by his previous work if you wish (preferably the films you've actually seen), but right now you are conflating Stone's work with that of the marketing team employed by the movie's distributor.
Here's a good recut to start you off; it makes The Shining out to be a romantic comedy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmkVWuP_sO0
They do the same with Silence of the Lambs, and also manage to make Sleepless in Seattle look like a psychological thriller.
Who would have dreamed that when socialism came to the U.S.A. it would be brought not by Bolsheviks in blue jeans but Wall Street bankers in Gucci loafers?
Jason - I've seen that Shining clip before and love it
October 19, 2008 - 13:00 ET by Dee Bunkbut it has nothing to do with my point. Believe me I'm well aware of editing tricks and how they distort things. The liberal media distorts Republicans with deceptive and/or unflattering editing all the time.
I don't need to see the whole film to see that Brolin's & Stone's interpretation of Bush is not mine. As I said before, it doesn't matter if they show him in a better light in other places. The parts they show are outrageous and hateful and I'd never reward that kind of thing by watching the film. Anyone who is not a Bush hater is stupid to give this film any patronage.
You are a Bush hater - so enjoy it - what ever. Maybe some day you'll learn to laugh with people rather than at them. It's really much more enjoyable IMO.
Speaking of cuts and clips, some YOUTUBER needs to update
October 19, 2008 - 13:26 ET by upcountrywaterThis movie: Man of the year
A lot of great stuff, in that movie.. the voting machine fraud, drilling for oil...even tina fay is in it!
CLIMATE CRISIS
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Oh, he's just as much a
October 13, 2008 - 10:42 ET by Dave DOh, he's just as much a historian as a Michael Moore film is a documentary.
He's not a historian...
October 13, 2008 - 11:05 ET by szampHe is not a historian and doesn't have the guts to assume what he is doing.
For God's sake, just tell everybody that you are a socialist and want to ridicule the current president right before the election to promote the oposition party. That's all.
We're not kids who rely on MTV, ET or other tabloids like the NY Times for news and political commentary.
The left reviewing the left,
October 13, 2008 - 11:53 ET by Graig36The left reviewing the left, pushing the left... an all to common theme today.
Luckily
October 13, 2008 - 12:05 ET by IamTinmanI'll never have to find out since if Oliver Stone is tied to a movie I don't watch it. I'm not going to spend my hard earned $10 on what will almost always turn out to be crap. There are lots of other movies to watch and there's always Netflix.
Sadly,
October 13, 2008 - 13:24 ET by Jack Hermanmany of the youngest generation will find yet another of Stone's "crap" to be history.
not a inside hack job
October 13, 2008 - 13:45 ET by TjexciteAs long as Stone did not make it a inside job movie and only shows that GWB is dumb it is just fine with me. The right would be enjoying the Clinton movie to show Bill is dumb (but that would never be made) let the left have their "W" is dumb movie it would not change anyone mind about him ether way. If it was a inside job movie Bush could not be all that dumb which they see him as and yet, creative enough for 9/11.
McCain / Palin '08
I'm not bothered by hatchet
October 13, 2008 - 17:34 ET by bpjamI'm not bothered by hatchet jobs either, per se, but I am bothered when the agenda of the movie is lied about by the creator and other whores in the MSM. THAT is what bothers me. Calling it history and then creating propaganda.
An American Carol was not an 'accurate portrayal' of anything. But then again, Newsweek didn't have to pretend that it was for the benefit of fooling the public.
I can just imagine the Clinton movie
October 13, 2008 - 14:12 ET by SpikerIt would be a big sweeping epic of the glorious 1990's and they would throw all of the bimbo eruptions under the rug.
If Oliver Stone is a "Historian"...
October 13, 2008 - 17:04 ET by MightyMouth...then Jack the Ripper was a community organizer!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
How do I know this is
October 13, 2008 - 17:31 ET by bpjamHow do I know this is BS??? Cuz all the trailers for the movie are edited to make it look like Michael Moore directed it. If the movie were 'sympathetic' or 'historic' then it wouldn't be marketed like a hatchet job against Bush. And Oliver Stone has a long history of being a gigantic, gaping #@&hole when it comes to all things political and likely still hates Bush for not having gone to Vietnam (as well as for having been born into a Republican family).