'Selective Editing': Jon Stewart Unfairly Rips Bill O’Reilly
Yesterday, in this piece about Stephen Colbert, I mentioned Jon Stewart’s attack on Fox News but couched it with as much skepticism as possible because, frankly, it didn’t pass the smell test, especially in the area of context. To have those suspicions confirmed last night by Bill O’Reilly came as no surprise (see the video below). Furthermore, I respectfully disagree with O’Reilly that Stewart should be held to a lower factual standard because he’s a ”satirist.” Stewart isn’t a satirist, he’s a political partisan disguised as a satirist, a man as determined to defeat the right as Nancy Pelosi and Bill Maher. The difference between Pelosi and Maher, though, is that they step into the arena of political battle and fly their flag. At the very least you can respect them for that. They come to wage open war whereas Stewart and Colbert come to throw rocks while wearing the protective shield of a clown nose.
I love our side and there’s really no lower form of life than someone on our side who undermines their own, so I say this to be constructive, not destructive. There are a lot of people on the Right who love Jon Stewart, people I respect, some of whom I know and like. And I agree that Stewart’s very good at what he does (which is why I take him seriously). But a conservative admiring the brilliance of Jon Stewart’s talent is like a boxer admiring the power of Mike Tyson’s punch as he’s beating you senseless. You have to fight back and in that respect, last night O’Reilly did an excellent job of threading a very difficult needle. Stewart is not easy to lay a glove on, but this was a clean hit. (You’ll be glad to know that I am now out of boxing metaphors).
Another point O’Reilly made that should be highlighted, is how the so-called “objective” or “legitimate” media too often takes what Stewart and Colbert do as some kind of gospel. Because Stewart is a “comedian,” the liberal media uses that as an excuse to blow up what he does on their air or online without bothering to fact-check, even when the stakes involve reputations. We’ve seen this before. Nobody watches “Saturday Night Live” but everyone saw Tina Fey’s Sarah Palin impression. With a smirk, and as though it didn’t matter, the left-wing media let Tina Fey do their dirty work on Palin with the endless looping of those SNL clips all in the name of “fun.” Well, it’s not fun, it’s an attempt to dehumanize someone into a national punchline and the media knew it.
An excellent example of this is Mediaite, a far-left site disguising themselves as “objective.” Like Stewart, they’re very good at what they do, but they are by design and on a daily basis aiding and abetting this sinister practice of cherry-picking videos that further the Leftist narrative in the hopes they’ll go viral. Again, the idea is to dehumanize the subject into a punchline. Why would a legitimate news site post this, or this, or especially this? There’s nothing of substance there. It’s about isolating and targeting a political opponent. At one point yesterday, there were no less than four stories on Mediate’s front page ridiculing Michelle Bachmann, none of them on the substance of her post-SOTU remarks, all of them meant to further the narrative that she’s dumb. One. Two. Three. Four.
And did Mediaite question Stewart’s attack on Fox News and Bill O’Reilly. That’s a rhetorical question. It’s one thing for an openly political website to do this, our own BreitbartTV and our friends at NewsBusters are excellent examples, but like Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Politico, and the MSM, Mediaite thinks they can do more damage through duplicity. And so that I’m not accused of doing my own cherry-picking, I invite you to spend some time here and here, and come to your own conclusions.
There’s also something darkly twisted and pschologically disturbing about these relentless anti-substance attacks on Palin and Bachmann [update: don't forget Christine O'Donnell], and it’s not just Mediaite. As the Hollywood Reporter pointed out yesterday, you see it at MSNBC, as well. They’re all members of what I all the HeManAttractiveConservativeWomanHatersClub. There’s an anti-woman rage bubbling on the Left, and due to the fact that there’s a big asterisk next to the name’s Palin and Bachmann in any handbook of professional journalism, that bubbling is allowed to boil over without consequence. In a world where professional journalism exists, the guy who actually gave the State of the Union address would get the most press, no? To be fair and clear, I do not believe Colbert and Stewart are members of that club.
Most importantly, what we’re witnessing here is a preview of 2012. You can see how the Leftist media is going to use Jon Stewart and you can see how Jon Stewart is going to allow himself to be used. Same with Colbert and SNL. Because so-called “satirists” are held to a lower factual standard and the media is desperate to destroy their political opponents by any means necessary without appearing to get their hands dirty, what you have here is a marriage made in Alinsky Hell.
Stewart and his dishonest media allies are ruthless and playing for keeps, and that’s no joke. O’Reilly did good work pushing back last night. Here’s hoping we see more of that from our side.
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I thoroughly agree with
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 4:45pm.
I thoroughly agree with you.
Stewart uses his "comedian" status to avoid responsibility for the things he says.
I call him Jon "It's a fake news show!" Stewart because that's his excuse.
You are right when you say "You have to fight back."
Because that is the tactic of the left: they use comedians and "satirists" to launch their attacks, and then, when the target of the attack responds, ridicule him or her for "over-reacting" to something that's just a "joke."
While I agree with you,
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 4:54pm.
I also think that folks like Rush, Levin, Laura, Wilkow, and others, are their counterparts. Although they deal in logic and facts. All of these folks, are way funnier then Stewart or Maher.
BOR will have this
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 4:58pm.
nitwit on again and play all nicey nice?
Steward
Submitted by well99 on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 4:59pm.
He is just a plain liar that tries to play it off as comedy.The shill is to much a coward to stand up and admit he is Olbermann Lite with a agenda.Steward the most trusted mouth piece of the DNC.Little Jonny(I am a comedian) a lying shill.
About humor and Stewart.....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 5:46pm.
A really smart guy once said, "Humor is subjective."
I don't find Stewart particularly funny.............or even clever.
Well said!!!! "Stewart
Submitted by buddyc on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 5:59pm.
Well said!!!!
"Stewart isn’t a satirist, he’s a political partisan disguised as a satirist, a man as determined to defeat the right as Nancy Pelosi and Bill Maher. The difference between Pelosi and Maher, though, is that they step into the arena of political battle and fly their flag. At the very least you can respect them for that. They come to wage open war whereas Stewart and Colbert come to throw rocks while wearing the protective shield of a clown nose. "
Please recall, Chevy Chase. I do. While I am no huge fan of Gerald R. Ford, Chase's ridicule of Ford was almost as bad was what was done by SNL to Palin. Younger readers might not recall that Ford as a gifted athlete. He played for two undefeated Michigan football teams and was an all star in his final year. Chase's potrayal of Ford as a clutz, clumsy dunce was not by accident. Today Chase readily acknowledges the political motivations of his ridicule of Ford and laughs to this day about what he accomplished.
Sad to say but Chase, Fey, Stewart, Colbert are extreme partisan political operatives.
Make no mistake, their ridicule disguised as commedy is hate and it is partisan.
the hole starts with the interviews
Submitted by Q on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 6:03pm.
They come to wage open war whereas Stewart and Colbert come to throw rocks while wearing the protective shield of a clown nose.
let's take a look at the politicians stewart is afraid to spar with
- mike huckabee
- eric cantor
- condoleezza rice
- bill oreilly
- dick armey
- fred thompson
- tim pawlenty
- ken blackwell
- marc thiessen
- newt gingrich
- and an open ended invitation to sara palin
i don't think he's ducking anyone.
Stewart ducks responsibility---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 7:02pm.
as has been said, by hiding behind the comedy schtick. If you have no honesty, you have no right to expect respect. Regardless of your field of endeavor.I find Stewart
Submitted by buddyc on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 7:54pm.
I find Stewart hilarious.
However, as a totally impartial participant to this discussion it appears to me that he does hide behind a "clown suit". It should be clear to any reasonable person, as it is to me, that he is partisan as is SNL.
You appear to also like Stewart. Maybe you can explain why he hides behind a claim of comedy, laugh track, a hand picked audience or claim of impartiality. I wish he would just come out of the comedy closet.
hiding?
Submitted by Q on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 2:29pm.
he's a comedian on a comedy station named comedy central.
is there something wrong with mixing humor with politics?
Q (or "q")
Submitted by MrShy on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 8:40pm.
"let's take a look at the politicians stewart is afraid to spar with"
EDIT: Okay, I need another cup of coffee. This was sarcasm. :p
Still, capitalize one or two letters. Won't kill you.
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coffee is good for the mind
Submitted by Q on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 11:51am.
first thing that comes to mind is the Kramer wars.
but what it comes down to is, and i think it's apparent to anyone who watches Stewart on a somewhat regular schedule, he'll interview just about anyone.
what is the fun in politics if you can't argue your views with someone else?
politics is a game created by Washington...like they created monopoly but didn't tell us the rules.
are you happy that i capitalized names this round?
We would be happy if you went away.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 11:57am.
19 time retread trolls especially ones as stupid and whiny as you need to get the message. You are too stupid for these environs.
good morning yourself
Submitted by Q on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 12:04pm.
just hanging proximad
Q/q
Submitted by MrShy on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 9:44pm.
"politics is a game created by Washington...like they created monopoly but didn't tell us the rules."
Aahh, patented, exclusive-only-to-liberals clap trap about how everyone is getting duped by the whole system and both/all parties -- except, of course, for the superior clap trapper spewing this tired line.
"are you happy that i capitalized names this round?"
It's not about my happiness. It's about sound advice to you as a first-step to being taken even remotely seriously around here at NewsBusters (R).
You're forging on, typing sentences that start with lower-case letters. The sin of all sins. But you know that, and you're just acting out the rebellious, immature liberal.
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Let's recap what O'reilly
Submitted by troglodyt on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 7:39pm.
Let's recap what O'reilly outlined:
Some user on Huffington Post writes tasteless remarks. O'reilly then accuses Huffpo of using Nazi techniques. A presumably jewish man writes that he is offended by O'reilly's comparison. O'reilly then reiterates basically the same accusations as a response to that letter.
My question: What the heck does context show here other than O'reilly being ignorant?
What, you mean other than Stewart's being fraudulently ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 8:01pm.
facetious?
You argue for Stewart by arguing against O'Reilly.
I don't particularly care for O'Reilly's style, but you are being disingenuous by letting your liberal slip show.
MD
Why am I disingenious?
Submitted by troglodyt on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 8:12pm.
Because I allegedly show, what in your opinion I've been all along? Even in your world that should not be described with the word "disingenuous".
You are disingenuous because---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 8:25pm.
you are a liberal. Liberals are calculating. You are also a poseur who talks the talk of erudition, but who, with two shots at "disingenuous", misspelled it the first time. Even if a typo, it shows lack of foresight as far as proofreading on your part. But then, you libs are famous, erudite or not, for not anticipating unforeseen consequences.If there is one foreseeable consequence
Submitted by troglodyt on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 8:47pm.
it is that my typos and misspellings will serve as baseline for character assessment around here, whether the one assessing is erudite or a troglodyte. I got used to this type of deflection. But carry on.
troglodyt (German spelling)---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 10:06pm.
I have pointed out on more than one occasion that typos can be overlooked as a matter of course. If they come in a post by someone pushing an agenda that is contraindicated by the purpose of the site, I believe they are fair targets. As far as I am concerned, a liberal posting on a conservative site meets that criterion. Don't give me that crap about your character being assessed by typos and misspellings as somehow a ruse, or as you put it, a deflection, by others as a means of denigrating your argument. If your beliefs and statements of same, as a liberal, are anathema to a conservative, then your typing mistakes are not an issue over and above that of your message."Don't give me that crap
Submitted by troglodyt on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 5:13pm.
"Don't give me that crap about your character being assessed by typos and misspellings as somehow a ruse, or as you put it, a deflection, by others as a means of denigrating your argument."
Oh, you misunderstood me there. I'm not complaining about you denigrating my argument by deflection, but merely assessing that you deflect to fill the void of your pointless blather.
anoher retard.
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 10:09pm.
If it is pointless blather, why quote? If it is pointless blather, why respond? Maybe you ought to be MD's troll. He sure did get under your skin fast this time. Put some salve on that hurt butt of yours.
You missed a t there reard
Submitted by troglodyt on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 10:25pm.
And to answer your question. Because, as you, I luv it.
That is the worst case of diaper rash I have ever seen.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 6:37am.
First the little trollie whines long and hard because its typos and misspellings will serve as baseline for character assessment. Screaming for mumzietroll to change its diaper. Then it turns around and whines about another user's typo. That is the worst case of diaper rash in the history ot trollies. You are gonna need some industrial strength zinc oxide for that bad a case of the trollie diaper rash. A diaper rash that runs from its knees to its belly button.
Mumzietroll, come change my diaper!
But Veet, I iz prefect. No typees. Prefect grammaz. Lookiez.
Yeah, diaper troll, it is Bill O'Reilly. The R is capitalized. But whatever, we let it go.
Yeah diaper troll, it is Jewish man. It is a proper noun. Capital J. But whatever, we let it go.
Yeah, diaper troll, you do not quote words. You put them in italics. troglodippers: ...with the word "disingenuous". But whatever, we let it go.
I know little trollie, mumzie and duddy troll don't get paid much and your diaper only gets changed once month. That is a really nasty case of trollie diaper rash. They should be changing it once every 5 days. You need to go to this troll charity, Diapers for Troll Crybabies. They will help mumzietroll and duddytroll financially so they can afford the barrels of zinc ozide and pallets of diapers you so desperately need. Don't thank me, just give back to the charity once you get a high paying troll job.
Crybaby.
Back to your flaws
Submitted by troglodyt on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 7:00am.
Even if a typo, it shows lack of foresight as far as proofreading on your part. But then, you cons are famous, erudite or not, for not anticipating unforeseen consequences.
Scritch Scritch Scritch. mumzie. It itches. So bad.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 7:50am.
quoteth the diaper troll pulling Santa's Sleigh: it is that my typos and misspellings will serve as baseline for character assessment around here, whether the one assessing is erudite or a troglodyte. I got used to this type of deflection. But carry on.
The trogster, a pseudo-intellectual liberal---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 3:18am.
on a conservative site, assessing a conservative as "filling the void with pointless blather by using deflection". For a liberal who is not only an intellectual phony, but one who is doing what he accuses others of doing, you are pretty funny!From deflection
Submitted by troglodyt on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 6:55am.
to projection. Nice one.
Owwwww. Mumzie. It itches sooooo bad.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 7:53am.
mumzie, it itch.... Santa? Is that you?
From being desirous of showing intelligence, trogster---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 01/30/2011 - 9:27pm.
to typing out posts reminiscent of being perpetually exiled to study hall. Nice one, yourself.troglodyt:
Submitted by j. frank wilson on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 8:20pm.
You are, of course, right.
On January 18, Rep. Steve Cohen (D - TN) compared the tactics of those opposed to the recently passed Health Care Reform Act to those used by the Nazis. He didn't call them Nazis - he compared the Big Lie tactics.
On January 20, Megyn Kelly interviewed Richard Socarides on Fox News. Mr. Socarides said "Every night on the very network we're on right now, the leading commentators on this network use this type of language..."
Ms. Kelly immediate got all upset and claimed that was "Just not true. I watch it [Fox News programming] every day and you're wrong..."
Jon Stewart offered numerous examples of leading Fox News commentators using that type of language. Of course, those examples weren't hard to find.
Mr. O'Reilly then attempted to justiy his actions by providing "context." No matter how much context he offers, he can't change the very simple fact that he said what he said, Ms. Kelly was wrong and Messrs. Stewart and Socarides were, quite obviously, correct.
It isn't all that complicated. Mr. O'Reilly can spin it to his heart's content - he can't change the fact that he said what he said.
Whoah. Mating is rarely witnessed in this species
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 8:26pm.
.
That is because, SoL---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 8:33pm.
when the blind, led the blind, try to mate, it is much like pachyderms engaged in the same ritual; a lot of screaming and yelling, fumbling and groping, and even if successful, it takes 22 months to get results.
MD
~Or
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 3:23pm.
It could go like this.
There you go, troglodyt (German spelling)---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 8:26pm.
Support from j. frank 'Puddinhead' wilson'.
Also known as "the kiss of death".
MD
Sorry
Submitted by troglodyt on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 8:47pm.
but I think he didn't get my point.
You know you will be shunned on the troll playground.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 6:40am.
First you got that raggedy set of diapers that is going on a month old. Normal troll diapers get changed every 5 days. So you scream my trollie parents are poor with your appearance.
Then you walk around dissin' the other trollie babies? Are you high?
Play nice with the other trollies and they will stop throwing rocks at you.
That you didn't get my point either
Submitted by troglodyt on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 7:02am.
is hardly surprising.
Mumzie, the monkeyman said other trolls only wait 5 days.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 7:38am.
All the trolls throw rocks and laugh at me and call me names. They said I could pull Santa's sleigh with my shiny bright red diaper rash ridden nads leading the way.
Private Bill Wilson LIES AGAIN.
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 2:03am.
Mr. Socarides said "Every night...
Catch that? Every single night, night after night, endlessly for all time.
Private Bill Wilson the 140 time LIAR: Ms. Kelly was wrong and Messrs. Stewart and Socarides were, quite obviously, correct
Catching Bill O'Reilly saying mentioning a Nazi 2 years ago hardly constitutes EVERY NIGHT.
YOU LIE AGAIN.
So clever!
Submitted by j. frank wilson on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 11:44am.
Do you really not understand “Every night” is a rhetorical flourish, a modest conversational exaggeration for effect?
Or do you believe Nazi analogies are appropriate on a weekly or monthly basis, just not every day?
The straws you are grasping at won’t support you or your very thin argument. You could save them to build a house for a pig, I suppose – that’s about all your efforts are going to be good for.
Shut up your lying mouth.
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 12:30pm.
YOU LIED AGAIN.
The Collected Lies of J. Frank Wilson. Newsbusters oldest prolific lying troll.
133 lies there. And 10 more since.
Quick. Another random lie from the most prolific liar here.
54. Claimed Dr. Elders remarks about teaching masturbation to schoolchildren was a myth. Cool Arrow shot down that little lie right quick.
It is no surprise the
Submitted by bob loblaw on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 7:47pm.
It is no surprise the O'Reilly is completely wrong. And how can he moan about editing when every show edits down clips they play on their shows, notice O'Reilly didn't play the entire segment of Stewart. Here is one in which Stewart ridiculed Steve Cohen's comments two days after he said them, http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-january-20-2011/word-warcraft. here is the segment in which Stewart called out Megyn Kelly for saying Fox News doesn't make Nazi comparison, http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-january-24-2011/24-hour-nazi-party-people.
It is also no surprise that O'Reilly is wrong about his defense of his Huffington Post/Nazi comparison. He failed to mention that the Nancy Reagan comment was by a commenter on the site, and was deleted by the Huffington Post, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/17/nancy-reagan-hospitalized_n_87116.html.
Well at least Mr. Nolte
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 8:31pm.
Well at least Mr. Nolte admits that O'Reilly is "on our side", i.e. the conservative side. Now if only O'Reilly would admit it. Nolte seems somewhat agitated about journalistic duplicity. One wonders where he parked his concern regarding Fox News' resident charlatan.
O'Reilly's "good work pushing back": BOR defending his linking HuffPo to Nazis by pointing out the terrible things posted by anonymous commenters at the site back in days when comments were unmoderated. Yet such is Nolte's idea of O'Reilly brilliantly "threading a very difficult needle".
That's stunningly poor work by O'Reilly. If Mr. Nolte has some larger point to prove, he should select more credible evidence to make his case.
Jer
You saying that O'Reilly is---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 8:35pm.
reticent about proclaiming his conservative, according to you and Mr. Nolte, proclivities?Play
Submitted by amyshulk on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 9:02pm.
Go ahead, play the game by the rules they set, you CAN'T win. Declare a word as code, then destroy someone who didn't get the memo not to use that word. When they try to defend themselves, mock them for being stupid.
Ronald Reagan
John John John! You missed it.
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 01/27/2011 - 9:14pm.
Stewart played that clip -- and MANY others that you didn't choose to address -- in response to Megyn Kelly's assertion that people on FN don't use Nazi comparisons, a point that Stewart showed was false many many times over.
balboa
Submitted by well99 on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 12:09am.
Of course you can post the links to such without the creative edited version.Stewie and Media Matters like to leave important content out so the can push their agenda.
→ Well99
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 12:16am.
Now ya done it! You went and answered him.
If he's still awake, you're going to spend the next two hours trying to get a straight answer out of him.
CA
Submitted by well99 on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 5:06am.
Two hrs?Shoot we will be inhabiting the moon before we get a straight answer.But but Stewie is a comedian.Soro's shill is what .Stewie is.
Looks like the crypto-dummy is a liar as well.
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 6:46am.
Do Private Bill Wilson and the crypto-dummy balboa not own dictionaries?
Mr. Socarides said "Every night...
Did guy that claims to be just a comedian play 200, 300, maybe 400 clips that show people making the nazi references EVERY SINGLE NIIGHT, night after night after night? Or did he gather a few clips that span a year, maybe 2, probably 3?
What is it with Retards that the have a problem with common english. The man said every night. Not occasionally. Not every so often. Not once in a blue moon. To claim Nazi references are being made or hateful nazi type referencesare being made every night is a LIE. To call Megan Kelly a liar when she is correct is a LIE.
balboa LIES. j. frank wilson LIES.
well99
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 11:42am.
Why would I have links? The video shows enough.
balboa
Submitted by well99 on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 6:14pm.
Apparently you need to watch it again.
please watch tonights daily
Submitted by bob loblaw on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 12:16am.
please watch tonights daily show, he hammers bill. Game, set, match, Jon Stewart.
Lebowitz Bots
Submitted by MrShy on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 12:21am.
Infiltrating our beloved NB to promote their little funny man messiah.
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Thanks for dropping by NB, Mr. Stewart
Submitted by Dave. on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 12:25am.
-Dave
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take just a moment
Submitted by Bosco1123 on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 3:22pm.
It's not what you say. It's how you say it.
Don't listen to the yelling. Listen to the message.
The medium is the message. Buck up or get in the truck.
We do realize we share an almost evenly divided country.
From moderate to extreme in group or in-dividual, there ain't a whole lot of human difference in sense and nonsense.
Jon Stewart seems to think the group's well-being affects each individual.
Bill O'Reilly seems to think too many Americans aren't pulling the weight expected.
I look forward to your response to Stewart's response to O'Reilly's response. Megyn Kelly would do extremely well to initiate a home-and-home with Jon Stewart.
Didn't a troll get sent to troll hell 5 days ago?
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 7:06am.
A very very very stupid troll that fancies himself smart. Last time the troll tried to fill in the subject line to disguise himself. But yeah, he could not quite get the whole point of the subject line even then. What will the troll try this time? Maybe all lower case like of ego trolls? Hmmmmm. Let's watch.
If not, say trollie, you are fresh in from troll hell, did you see a trollie there, really dumb looking, lots of knots on his head, probably got a few ticks and twitches from the constant beatings he took here? Mutters to himself a lot. mfmfmbVeet. fmdufffmmmmfffffSikLibz. Seen him?
He doesn't actually "hammer"
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 11:44am.
He doesn't actually "hammer" him, but Stewart explains that this wasn't about O'Reilly; it was about Megyn Kelly.
Another liar that can't shut up.
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 12:33pm.
Prove the Nazi talk is on EVERY NIGHT like Mr. Socarides said. Your crypto bull won't get you out of this one. PROVE IT. You said she lied. PROVE IT.
Uh, I never said she lied.
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 12:38pm.
Uh, I never said she lied. Maybe she did, but more likely I think she's unaware of everything said on FN, and defended her network in a very knee-jerk fashion.
And "EVERY NIGHT" is a stupid qualifier to get hung up on.
Bull. You LIE again.
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 1:04pm.
IT is a quote. It is what she objected to. YOU LIE.
The Lying Crypto-dummy: ...Kelly's assertion that people on FN don't use Nazi comparisons...
He said EVERY NIGHT. Now prove it.
The Lying Crypto-dummy: And "EVERY NIGHT" is a stupid qualifier to get hung up on.
Trying to squeeze out of you and your new buddies LIES. Now PROVE it is on EVERY NIGHT.
As with all of your charges,
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 1:04pm.
As with all of your charges, I don't think "lie" means what you think it means. Never has.
And you think that if the guy had said, "Not every night, but people on this network use Nazi analogies" Kelly would have said, "Oh that I agree with."
Baloney.
Shut up.
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 1:20pm.
I am not here to discuss hypotheticals with a LIAR. I am here to point out YOUR LIES.
Hey everybody, you think that if the crypto-dummy sprouted wings and started to fly around farting buttercups, we would all clap and throw money?
~Sure
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 2:12pm.
Quarters and those nice, heavy gold dollars. *ping*
And yet you've failed to
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 4:24pm.
And yet you've failed to point out one "lie."
You are aware that the truth isn't what you cook up deep within the bunker at your compound, right?
balboa:
Submitted by j. frank wilson on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 6:28pm.
When they swing and miss they sure do miss!
How would you know Liar?
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 6:47am.
What with your head that far up the crypto-dummies rear.
(rumble rumble rumble) What is that boys and girls? Is it time already? Time for a random lie from Private Bill Wilson!
128. You claim I misquoted "The Art of War"...Do you have every translation? I've got over half a dozen in my library. Have you read all those? If you haven't, how can you possibly claim my quote is incorrect? - Catch that? We have to read at least 7 books in HIS library in order to prove he is misquoting. I also requested he pull the quote from one of his translations. 26Sep2010. Still waiting for that quote.
That one is a winner boys and girls. Private Bill Wilson wants us to go to his house, sit down and read 7 books, then, then we can call him a LIAR.
balboa
Submitted by well99 on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 6:10pm.
So you know what Kelly would say?Oh course you have facts to back that up.Is this another because you think it is so it must be so moment?
No, I don't know exactly what
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 8:11pm.
No, I don't know exactly what she would say, but based on how that conversation was going, it was a fairly logical assumption. Megyn didn't seem to be ready to admit any possible outrageous comments on FN.
balboa
Submitted by well99 on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 9:04pm.
What you did is put words in her mouth.Based on liberal logic.You dont need facts just what ever pops in your mind that suits your purpose will do.Liberal logical assumptions is why liberals are such bigots.Without proof they labeled the Tea Party racist.Why?Because to a liberal it was a fairly logical assumption.
It really wasn't as big a
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 9:07pm.
It really wasn't as big a leap as you're making it out to be. Conservative exaggeration is why conservatives keep predicting the end of America, et cetera, et cetera (included for parallel construction to your post).
balboa
Submitted by well99 on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 9:14pm.
Gee guess they need to be bigots like liberals.
balboa
Submitted by MrShy on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 6:26pm.
A) Lies.
B) Loses the argument badly, so he runs off stage.... and then...
C) Wheels in a fabricated hypothetical (a new "what if" scenerio), hoping the audience forgets he just tripped up on himself and will applaud again.
Bal insults us all, taking us for idiots.
- Shy Vinyl
Join Mr. Shy and The 1* Percent
Show me a lie. How did I
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 8:07pm.
Show me a lie.
How did I lose? Where did I run to? I have a life.
Fabricated as in I proposed a logical question?
Stewart contradicted Megyn Kelly very neatly, and it's OK if you don't like it, but you could at least admit it.
Oops. Never ask for proof of your lies. Trollie rule # 1.
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 10:42pm.
balboa the crypto-dummy: Because they have people on their network that claim FN doesn't engage in using comparisons to Nazis...
LIE - The claim is that it is not used EVERY NIGHT - LIE. See the actual interview I linked below. NO ONE claimed it never happens.
Braaaaaackk. Show me the lie. Squawwwwwkkkkkkk. I didn't lie. Braaaaaaaackkkkk
Again, you have a very poor
Submitted by balboa on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 12:38am.
Again, you have a very poor working knowledge of the concept of lying. Very, very poor.
Whoops. Can't get out of it's lie.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 12:52am.
Time to open the Troll Bible. When caught in a lie, lie.
Sniffies. Is a trollie diaper filling up. Trollie gets busted in another lie. Skew U Veet. Trollies no liez. Trollie truffies. U. U iz liez Veet. Not trolliez. Why U no even keh-now liez. U no keh-now truffiez. U kookies. Yum. Kookie. Trollie hungry nah.
Go Go Go Little Lying Trollie. Spee-Nack teh Veet.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 6:53am.
balboa the crypto-dummy: Because they have people on their network that claim FN doesn't engage in using comparisons to Nazis...
Because they (FOX NEWS)
have people (MEGYN KELLY)
on their network (FOX NEWS)
that claim (MEGYN KELLY SAID THIS)
FN doesn't engage in using comparisons to Nazis... ( AN OUTRIGHT LIE. Megyn Kelly DID NOT Say Fox News NEVER engages in using comparisons to Nazis. She said it does not happen EVERY NIGHT.
I know you are too retarded to scroll down. So I will copy it in here. Here is the actual interview. Megyn Kelly repeated the phrase EVERY NIGHT in her denial. She was SPECIFICALLY referring to EVERY NIGHT.
How much more clear can I make it LIAR?
Keep walking down this road Private Bill Wilson's little retard brother. lil-tard-bro as he calls you.
So now you're lying.
Submitted by balboa on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 5:02pm.
So now you're lying. Fabulous. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Good work.
Whatever.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 5:12pm.
Out comes the crypto-crap from the crypto-dummy. Everyone on the planet is completely incapable of seeing what I wrote because the crypto-dummy posts crypto-crap.
Phweet. Crypto-dummy has to get in the last word not matter how desperate it is.
Hey crypto-dummy, why don't you ask Dead Zippers how my butt tastes? Oh wait... You already know.
You're about 12 years old,
Submitted by balboa on Sun, 01/30/2011 - 12:09am.
You're about 12 years old, right? Lol.
I wouldn't be so quick, balboa,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 01/30/2011 - 12:32am.
to advertise that a 12 year old can so easily make you look bad, and simultaneously get your goat.
MD
md
Submitted by balboa on Sun, 01/30/2011 - 7:11pm.
You're kidding, right? To make someone look bad, you have to have a lucid thought process, for starters.
balboa---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 01/30/2011 - 7:25pm.
Nope, not kidding at all.
I believe The Vet is exceptionally intelligent.
You, apparently, don't.
'S okay.
I'll just continue to base my belief on the pretty much one-sided outcome of the post wars, i.e., appropriately assigning both intellect and intelligence to the person who continually makes the opposition look like fools.
Whether or not you like how he states his case, that would be The Vet.
MD
"But someone calss you are
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 11:15am.
"But someone calss you are retard, and your diaper fills up, that diaper rash gets all a itchin', and you thrust your had deep deep deep into that daiper to scratch those red swollen diaper rash ridden 'nads."
Yeah, I see...?
Call mumzie troll somone.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 11:51am.
Someone's diaper still has not been changed 3 days later. That diaper rash is all a itchin' and the hurt butt is all a flamin'.
Did a big bad word bully say something to hurt little trollie's feewings? So much so little trollie is still crying about it 3 days later?
You quote that Veet little lying trollie. You print it out. Laminate it and show everybody you see how mean the word bully got on a website. I am sure someone will wipe away your tears. Right after they slap you for lying.
Gosh, matthewdean, you're
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 12:11pm.
Gosh, matthewdean, you're right. How could I not see the genius...
Here you go little lying diaper troll. Compiments of The Veet.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 12:38pm.
Your very own diapers with your favorite quote from the Veet.
balboa---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 02/01/2011 - 2:34am.
because as a liberal hanging out with other liberals, you have never had, nor will you ever get, the opportunity to meet anyone of above average intelligence.
Good thing NB's is available so as to appeal to your sentient side.
Without NB's, you would reach mental senectitude much sooner.
MD
"Senectitude"! Fancy. It's
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:15pm.
"Senectitude"! Fancy.
It's frightening that you believe what you type.
Nah, bal---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 2:56am.
senectitude is just a word that happens to have the same number of syllables as the word watermelon; nothing fancy about it.
One would think, though, that with a few years at NB's, you could see, even if you did not fully understand, why conservatives doubt the sanity of liberals who think as you do and then commit those thoughts to typeface for all to see.
It is my understanding that there are far more citizens who profess to be conservative than there are who clutch liberalism to their bosom.
As the libs are in the forefront of the federal movement to socialize this country, it is of far more concern to us conservatives that you libs believe what you type.
MD
md
Submitted by balboa on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 3:00pm.
I can see why either side doubts the sanity of the extremes of the other. I don't, on the other hand, see what was so crazy about anything I've posted on this thread. Nor do I understand backing a completely nutball such as the Vet.
you call him a nutball*
Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 4:03pm.
I call the Vet "sweetie"
poor baby twollie balboa.
Submitted by The Vet on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 10:03pm.
Still butt hurt a week later. Next time. DON'T LIE. Crybaby. A week later, still whining about Teh Veet.As a liberal, bal---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 10:17pm.
there are many things you don't understand about conservatives, not the least of which is a conservative's enjoyment of the spectacle of a liberal getting his ass verbally kicked from pillar, to post, and then back again. It is most obvious that, as a liberal, you make remarks that you believe support your cause and beliefs, but are thunderstruck that a conservative would come after you in what you perceive to be a disagreeable manner. At some point, it should become apparent that the Marquis of Queensbury rules do not apply when the two sides are not only ideologically, but viscerally opposed.And yet Vet hasn't done any
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 02/03/2011 - 11:51am.
And yet Vet hasn't done any of this ass kicking you keep referring to.
Obviously I anticipate people not caring for my P.O.V. on this site, or I wouldn't post. But that's not what Vet does. It's just incessant psychobabble between bouts of tourettes involving the words "lie," "liar," or "lying."
Yeah, bal---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 1:01am.
You just keep telling yourself that The Vet has never laid a glove on you. You state that you wouldn't post here if you didn't anticipate people on this site not caring for your P.O.V., but turn right around and deny that you have ever gotten your ass kicked. That is circular, internal, elitist, and completely false logic that is endemic to the liberal species.MD
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 7:36pm.
That is circular, internal, elitist, and completely false logic
I don't think so. I think it indicates that 1) I don't see debates on here as a competition, 2) I think I'm pretty careful in not going out on too many limbs where I'm unfamiliar with the territory.
I've admitted plenty of times when I've been wrong or proven wrong. I don't think that means I "got my ass kicked."
Actually, bal---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 02/05/2011 - 2:59am.
all the posting back and forth, regardless of the topic, is nothing else, quite so much as, but, a competition.balboa:
Submitted by j. frank wilson on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 1:54pm.
One of the clips Mr. Stewart played was an interview by Ms. Kelly. So, unless she doesn't pay attention to her own time on the air, she must know what she said simply isn't true.
You go Retard. Repeat the lie. That will make it true.
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 2:06pm.
I posted the ACTUAL interview. How is Ms. Kelly denying it is ever said when she REPEATS the phrase EVERY NIGHT in her denial?
You go girltard. Just keep repeating the same lie over and over like the lying retard you are. Wowzeez, we are impressed when you lie and lie and lie. Can you build a church so we can worship you?
Go on. Keep pretending The Vet did not nail your lying tush to the wall AGAIN. Go for it. Full On Retard mode. Full Steam Ahead. Straight on to LIE number 144.
You yell "Retard"
Submitted by j. frank wilson on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 2:40pm.
like it's an insult.
What do you have against young Trig Palin?
What's a "retard?" Someone doing the best they can with what God gave them. Isn't that all of us?
That was low even for a worm like you
Submitted by SickofLibs on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 6:36pm.
.
"What do you have against
Submitted by well99 on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 6:46pm.
"What do you have against young Trig Palin?"
You brought that up.WTF is wrong with you.Do you have to now attack the youngest child of Sara.You flocking liberals and this obssesive hate of children of conservatives is sick.Step away from the computer and seek help immediately.
you have a point j frank -
Submitted by TruthMonger on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 7:04pm.
you have a point j frank - your mistake was bringing Trig into it tho
but i don't think it reflects well on NB to see the word 'retard' invoked - obviously it's an insult to people with disabilities
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
TruthMonger:
Submitted by j. frank wilson on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 8:34pm.
Your point is well taken. Rather than provide the name of the child, it would have been better to simply quote Sarah Palin's statement on President Obama's unfortunate quip. Mr. Obama, of course, apologized for it.
Here's Mrs. Palin's statement:
“I was shocked to learn of the comment made by President Obama about Special Olympics. This was a degrading remark about our world’s most precious and unique people, coming from the most powerful position in the world.
“These athletes overcome more challenges, discrimination and adversity than most of us ever will. By the way, these athletes can outperform many of us and we should be proud of them. I hope President Obama’s comments do not reflect how he truly feels about the special needs community.”
Since you mentioned President Carter - how much better off would we all be today if we'd listened to him, worked to become energy independent, cut back on consumer consumption, and generally learned to live within our means?
Instead our nation listed to Ronald Reagan, who told us we could have our cake and eat it too. Now we really need to go on a diet!
So you're not just a common worm, you're a flatworm
Submitted by SickofLibs on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 10:17pm.
"We should have listened to Carter" will be your go-to quote from now on here.
Sniff Sniff. trollie lies so trollie will now distract. Sniff.
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 10:31pm.
Poor trollie. Nailed Dead to Rights in yet another lie. Time to distract!
You already have a forum for those word bullies that call you a retard trollie. Go whine there.
To the people who love the word "retard."
That was made by another hundred time liar that used the retard word over and over until he suddenly decided to put it off limits. Yeah, trollies wear out words and then decide the rest of us can't use them.
Now, let's get back to yet another lie from you. Tell us how Megyn Kelly was lying when she said in her denial, the Nazi style rhetoric was not used EVERY NIGHT. Or just shut up and take off for another 6 months. You and balboa seem to be very good at that. Certainly not good at telling the truth.
You bring J. Earl
Submitted by UpNorth on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 10:45pm.
Carter up? The man who created the Dept. of Energy, to make us energy independent, then did nothing to actually try to make us energy independent? And, his plan has been followed by every liberal/progressive who's stepped on the national stage. Really? That J. Earl Carter?
Yeah, if only we'd seen the light and turned the thermostat down to 55, we'd be so much better off, right? How about if we actually try to develope our own resources, and see if we can't lessen our dependence on foreign oil?
You beclown yourself, J. Frank. I doubt that you regret bringing up Trig Palin. I note you didn't apologize, you just dissemble.
UpNorth:
Submitted by j. frank wilson on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 11:12pm.
You're right - I don't regret it. There's nothing to apologize for.
I'm not running around using schoolboy insults like "retard." What's next? "Spaz?"
Fill your diaper little lying retard troll.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 12:22am.
You come here looking to crack your 150th lie. Lie after Lie after Lie after Lie. But someone calss you are retard, and your diaper fills up, that diaper rash gets all a itchin', and you thrust your had deep deep deep into that daiper to scratch those red swollen diaper rash ridden 'nads.
Trollie gets slapped right across the face with the truth when he lies and trollie whines about someone calling him a retard.
Cry little retard. Cry like there is no tomorrow.
Private Bill Wilson don't like the Retard word.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 12:48am.
But other insults to one's intelligence - A-OK in Fwankie's book.
Fool --- 19. These fools can't have an intelligent disagreement or conversation because most of them can't think, can't read, can just barely type and absolutely can't stand the slightest questioning of the group mythology. - Note - Talking to a banned user
Incompetent -- 23. The President has been breattakingly incompetent in this entire affair. - Talking about President Bush and Iraq.
Altering people's names -- 39. After Bull O'Really? announced the boycott of all goods French imports went up. - Wine sales in the very least were down. 89. I don't think ClusterFox is ever going to mention this:... - The idiot then cut & pastes a story that was covered by FNC and foxnews.com. ... During the InSannity interview
Calling people liars -- 41. If you...support an administration that lives in fear of the truth - that's your choice. If you support a President who stands before the American people and lies through his teeth - and then later says sure I lied I had no choice... (Bush administration)
Throwing around that racist card -- 90. Didn't take you long to go all racist, did it? ... Keep those sheets in your closet... - Response to a post that was not even remotely racist. An obvious trolling lie. Oh wait... "BIT#&!" directed to a Black woman is racist. Really? Stupid directed at a troll is Pure Energy.
Saying people are the worst evah - 93. It's obvious Mr. Cheney is one of - if not the - worst Vice Presidents in our history. - As obvious as a 100 time liar thinking someone will buy his propaganda?
Modifying a name to make it an insult - I didn't pull a Palin. ... Wretched Brunette: ... Duh Gov'Nuh Palin
Jerk -- Too bad some jerk is...
You go little retard. Get all offended at the retard word.
Class, J. Frank,
Submitted by UpNorth on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 2:23pm.
would see you apologize for your abuse of Trig Palin. But, in the long history of progressivism, we in the middle and on the right have come to expect just what you've done.
No Class, All Ass perfectly describes you. I would have added sir, but you don't deserve that appellation, so, why don't you do the internet a favor, and go download a couple of viruses?
UpNorth:
Submitted by j. frank wilson on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 12:30pm.
So - you have nothing to say to the fool who thinks "retard" is an insult.
But you do to me because I pointed it out?
Got it! You betcha!
Poor Lying little trollie.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 12:45pm.
Did mumzie leave you alone with the smelly balboa with the overflowing diapers and you slipped on the poo again?
You spend 4 years insulting and lying about everyone and everything here. But someone calls you are retard and you pop a rivet and demand we discuss how bad the word bully is.
Sniff. Poor wittle diaper trollie balboa twin. Sniff.
133 lies little baby troll. Still waiting for your chance to prove that Veet is a big liar about thoses lies and you wuz really all truffies.
The Collected Lies of J. Frank Wilson. Newsbusters oldest prolific lying troll.
Genius!
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 1:52pm.
Genius!
The Vet:
Submitted by j. frank wilson on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 2:58pm.
Project.
Deflect.
Project.
Deflect.
Repeat...
Maybe all those years as an animal doctor were just too much for you?
Whatever Retard.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 5:46pm.
Still waiting for you to face up to a SINGLE one of your 133 LIES.
The Collected Lies of J. Frank Wilson. Newsbusters oldest prolific lying troll.
Hey Retard. Now why do they call me The Vet? Huh? Retard? Why? Another dump truck full of Stupid just pulled up in your driveway. Better tell them what other pile of stupid you want it on. Come on Retard? Why am I called The Vet?
145. Thought The Vet got his name from being a veterinarian.
TIme for a Random LIE from the most prolific LIAR here.
38. Claimed a treaty that was signed with the Barbary Pirates is still in effect today. The Treaty was rewritten & signed 8 years after the first.Capt. Underpants:
Submitted by j. frank wilson on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 6:24pm.
OK, here's a pick:
32. ...where in the US Constitution is the Supreme Court given the explicit power or responsibility to determine that laws passed by the Congress are constitutional? ... ...the US Constiution doesn't grant the Supreme Court the right to overturn laws passed by Congress...
That's pretty simple - you tell us where it is.
Not here IDIOT.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 6:34pm.
And source it when you got there IDIOT.
Capt. UnderPants:
Submitted by j. frank wilson on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 8:28pm.
Huh?
Two simple questions. Over your head? Again?
Just as I've always thought. All talk. No do.
Pack Sand Lying Retard Troll.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 8:59pm.
Once again you piss your pants because I called you are retard while you have been STREAMING NOTHING BUT INVECTIVE FOR FOUR YEARS. And now you think I will jump because you the LYING IDIOT now want to call me names?
PACK SAND.
PACK IT HARD.
PACK IT TIGHT.
YOU ARE A 150 TIME LIAR.
IT IS ALL YOU ARE.
IT IS ALL YOU WILL EVER BE.
YOU DON'T MAKE DEMANDS. EVER. YOU GOT THAT? EVER.
YOU LIED. i LISTED EVERY SINGLE ONE.
YOU WANT TO DISPUTE ONE OF THOSE LIES. YOU KNOW WHERE TO GO.
I TOLD YOU WHERE TO DISPUTE YOUR LIES. I TOLD YOU TO SOURCE. BECAUSE I DO NOT, NEVER, EVER, WILL NOT, EVER BELIEVE A WORD YOU SAY.
SO GO THERE AND SOURCE IT.
BECAUSE YOU. LIE. OVER. AND. OVER.
YOU KNOW IT.
I KNOW IT.
EVERYONE KNOWS IT.
AND I AM NOT PLAYING YOUR LIAR GAMES.
GO THERE.
SOURCE IT.
OR PACK SAND HARD AND TIGHT.
Wow, j.frank, I can remember that back over four years ago...
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 9:08pm.
...you thought I was a total hardass.
I'd say the Vet has you by the short hairs. And no, I'm not referring to the proverbial ones, either.
Be sure not to cough. :-O
ROFL.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Dave:
Submitted by j. frank wilson on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 10:16pm.
Nope. The animal Doc has proven to be all bluster, no fact.
He can yell and use schoolyard insults and rant and rave and froth at the mouth. He's very, very good at all that.
He's proven he can call people liars. He's also proven he can't back it up.
Since you're such as smart guy, why don't you help Capt. UnderPants here? Why don't you show us where in the US Constitution the Supreme Court is granted the power to determine which laws passed by Congress are Constitutional? Have at it!
What part of Pack Sand confuses you?
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 10:43pm.
Any time you want to man up and start making me a fool for calling you a liar. The forum is there little sissy. Has been for 5 months. 133 lies. EVERY SINGLE ONE A LIE.
You have been the biggest sissy on this site. I have told you time and time again and account for YOUR LIES. YOU HAVE RAN. YOU HAVE RAN TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
YOU HAVE COME HERE WHINING ABOUT ME TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
YOU HAVE PUFFED UP YOUR CHEST TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
But you have NEVER once answered up for A SINGLE LIE.
I SAID GO THERE.
I SAID SOURCE.
YOU LIE.
OVER AND OVER.
AND I WILL NOT STOP EVER.
YOU GOT THAT SISSY?
YOU POST HERE. I REMIND EVERYONE WHAT A SISSY YOU ARE.
YOU COME BACK IN SIX MONTHS. I WILL BE HERE.
YOU GOT THAT SISSY?
NOT ONE SINGLE LIE HAVE YOU ACCOUNTED FOR IN 5 MONTHS.
Capt. UnderPants:
Submitted by j. frank wilson on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 11:05pm.
See #137 (below).
You, j. frank Puddinhead wilson---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 02/01/2011 - 2:43am.
get your ass handed to you every single time you post, and the best you can come up with is, "He's also proven he can't back it up".
Do you not realize, meat, that everyone who reads your posts sees the obvious lie you try and hide behind?
Lord, you are an idiot.
MD
"Got it!"
Submitted by UpNorth on Tue, 02/01/2011 - 1:07pm.
Yeah, you do, deflection that is. It's what you do, pathetic child abuser.
UpNorth:
Submitted by j. frank wilson on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 2:47pm.
"Child abuser?" What - did I make some poor kid read your sorry posts?
Private Bill Wilson and the Crypto-dummy sitting in a tree...
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 1:15pm.
Here is the actual interview - The man said EVERY NIGHT. The leading commentators use this kind of language. (nazi references, this kind of language, rhetoric) Megyn Kelly REPEATED the phrase EVERY NIGHT in her denial.
MEGYN KELLY REPEATED THAT VERY PHRASE. So this bull that I am getting hung up or using a qualifier unfairly is YET MORE LIES COMPOUNDED.
balboa LIES.
j. frank wilson LIES.
ZZZZZZZZZZ. Oh dear. I fell asleep.
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 10:43pm.
Why is it trollies get so silent when the truth smacks them in the face? They will get all flappy with hypotheticals, Jimmy Carter references, Trig Palin references, and other various whines. Talk about the truth that just smacked them? Oh noes........
Wow, what
Submitted by UpNorth on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 10:47pm.
happened there? I didn't even try to post that time.
balboa and j. frank "Puddinhead" wilson, after---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 1:20am.
combining their below average intellects, strode forth, together, as liberal brothers, in order to combat the evil forces of conservatism by shooting arrows of flaming bullshit into the air.
Sadly, for all of liberalism, the two intrepid battlers, by sallying forth at flank speed, got ahead of their own arrows, and alas, took their own fletched missiles right in their maximus glutei.
Ouch !!
Sure was funny, though.
MD
Retard Trolls miss the irony.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 2:00am.
They use Jon Stewart as the sole source of all their news. The Jon Stewart that selectively edits clips to spin it to his view. The Jon Stewart that selectively edited a clip from Mr. O'Reilly. The Jon Stewart that probably selectively edited out the quote from Megyn Kelly where she denies the rhetoric is used every night. Yep, that Jon Stewart.
Then they come here and pass along the hidden lie from the selectively editing Jon Stewart in a forum about Jon Stewart's selective editing. And go into full on diaper wearing meltdown mode when the lie is exposed. You would figure they would be angry at Jon Stewart for lying to them but no.... They take it out on the people that expose their lies. And go right back to watching the selectively editing Jon Stewart to get more lies.
Meh,
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 2:19am.
Anyone that takes Stewart's word for anything is dumber than they claim Palin to be.
Selective editing
Submitted by Bosco1123 on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 12:56pm.
Vet, have you seen Stewart's response to O'Reilly's response to Stewart's response to Kelly's statement to Socarides claim?
I wonder what you'd make of it.
And what did you make of the Fox folks quoting Obama: (and I paraphrase at my own risk)
Some say we need a European-style health care system. I disagree.
The Fox folks edited that to:
Obama states we need a European-style health care system.
Would this be a lie?
Links
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 12:56pm.
I need links.
You trolling bosco? You think you can nip at The Vet?
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 1:06pm.
I found your Media Matters Lie. Found it quick.
Goler reverses meaning of Obama quote to falsely suggest he supports European-style health careAnd it is a viscious lie. You look at the video and it is clear the President is READING a question off a board. Watch it. It is not even a good lie. Are you this gullible that you went there nearly 2 years ago and were fooled by them?
Now about that other link?
Selective editing
Submitted by Bosco1123 on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 1:01pm.
Vet, have you seen Stewart's response to O'Reilly's response to Stewart's response to Kelly's statement to Socarides claim?
I wonder what you'd make of it.
And what did you make of the Fox folks quoting Obama: (and I paraphrase at my own risk)
Some say we need a European-style health care system. I disagree.
The Fox folks edited that to:
Obama states we need a European-style health care system.
Would this be a lie?
I answered one of your questions.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 1:14pm.
My turn. Are you agreeing with the 2 retards, balboa and Private Bill Wilson that Megyn Kelly was saying no one ever in the history of Fox News made a comparison to Nazi Germany? Or are you going to be reasonable after watching the video I linked to the ACTUAL INTERVIEW and tell us she was objecting to Mr. Socarides saying it happens EVERY NIGHT. Especially considering she repeated the words every night in her denial.
PS: It is a mouse button not a gas pedal on a dump truck. Easy on the clicks there MickeyMouseMan.
thank you, Vet
Submitted by Bosco1123 on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 3:53pm.
I listened to the Kelly-Socarides clip you expertly provided and the "every night" phrase sure could be questioned. I wonder if you question the frequency of Nazi references on Fox. I certainly recall during the Bush years a number of Americans made similarly outrageous comments about George W.
If you check the Thursday, January 27 show at dailyshow.com you will find the Stewart response to O'Reilly's response to Stewart's response to Kelly's response to Socarides's claim of "every night." You make more sense than O'Reilly.
I'm confused by your reference to Goler and Media Matters. What's the lie? I listened to Obama's remarks when he gave them and then was disappointed to hear/see the Fox reporting. I think it was the Hannity show that provided what struck me as dishonest reporting. I never heard a clarification from Fox, but then I don't pay all that much attention to Fox, or any talking heads.
I find Media Matters to be just as silly as Newsbusters and their commenters to be every bit as juvenile.
Did you catch Kelly's interview with the Tucson sherriff? She was excellent at drawing a distinction between what one feels and what is fact.
Hey, as long as we're here, what do you make of the Congress folk who voted against the stimulus, then requested the funds to which their constituents were just as "entitled" as the constituents of Congress folk who voted for the stimulus?
~Syrius alert
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 4:00pm.
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Dude. Links. Links. Links.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 4:06pm.
I don't watch Jon Stewart. You want me to watch. Provide a link and a time to go to in the video link. Further, I spoke only to Megyn Kelly and the Every Night interview. I did not speak to Mr. O'Reilly and Jon Stewart.
I work on facts not wondering.
...the "every night" phrase sure could be questioned. --- I am confused. He said every night. She denied it and said every night. What is there to question. I speak English. You speak English. English was spoken in the interview.
I'm confused by your reference to Goler and Media Matters. - A. It was a link. It appeared to be the quote you were referring to - Some say we need a European-style health care system. I disagree. If it was the wrong quote, where is your link?
As for the rest, you are all over the map demanding my time when you have not responded much in any real way to what I said before.
And if Wrathful Brunette is correct. We have met and you torqued me already during one of your many retread accounts. Talk to her. Talk to her now.
~Huh
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 4:33pm.
After skipping all over the boards for an hour or two Boscoe lapses into an inexplicable somnolence.
wow
Submitted by Bosco1123 on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 8:01pm.
You guys. Just had a great meal with my daughter and her partner. I'm not trying to crash your club. Just writing when I want to offer. Thank you for writing. As Dick Armey has said, "More hat than cattle." More heat than light. Syriusly?
Wow.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 8:12pm.
What happened to all your friendly questions with The Vet? Looks like Wrathful Brunette is on to something huh?
~Ding ding ding
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 9:17pm.
You lose.
Again.
Cranberry Biscotti 123456789....
Submitted by MrShy on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 9:26pm.
"Just had a great meal with my daughter and her partner."
Dance partner?
Partner in crime?
Business partner?
- Shy Booklet
Join Mr. Shy and The 1* Percent
Fwankie the 145 time LIAR thinks he can raise bile.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 11:02pm.
Private Bill Wilson: He can yell and use schoolyard insults and rant and rave and froth at the mouth. He's very, very good at all that. He's proven he can call people liars. He's also proven he can't back it up.
I created a Woodshed Forum on 8 August 2010. It has been sitting there UNANSWERED for over 5 months. I have reminded Fwankie every single time he has come here to answer up for his lies. EVERY SINGLE TIME. EVERY SINGLE POST.
Fail Fwankie. You will not raise bile by puffing up your feathers here and spamming up a blog that has nothing to do with your lies.
You say I can't back it up. Stop acting like the sissy you are and go there and start answering up for your 133 lies and MAKE ME BACK IT UP. I have been ready, willing, and able to prove you are a liar time and time again. And all you have done is disappear over and over.
Now you want to whine because I won't spam up this blog. Just another excuse for you to act like the sissy you have been for 4 years. Almost every one of those lies were answered up in the original blog and you blustered and ran then just like you have done in the 5 months since I created that forum.
You are a liar and a sissy and nothing you can say here will ever change that.
Capt. UnderPants:
Submitted by j. frank wilson on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 11:03pm.
You dodge, you duck, you project, you deflect.
You don't offer facts.
You call my statements lies. All you have to do is prove it.
But - you can't
So, you yell and insult and carry on and some people here are impressed by all that bluster.
But neither you or they can prove it.
If you can - do it. Show me. Back your rap.
Whatever.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 11:17pm.
There is a WOODSHED Forum for this. Go there. The only one trying desperately to impress people is you.
133 Lies. 5 months. Now suddenly I can't back up the 133 lies I listed? Keep flailing.
Capt. UnderPants:
Submitted by j. frank wilson on Mon, 01/31/2011 - 11:30pm.
You've demonstrated why I don't bother responding before this.
You have no facts. You call people liars but you can't prove it.
Poor sport, indeed...
Try again Sissy.
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:57am.
I just proved YOU LIED again. See below.
j. frank wilson claimed here on this page I LIED. Wrong.
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:28am.
Confirmed LIE # 13438. Claimed a treaty that was signed with the Barbary Pirates is still in effect today. The Treaty was rewritten & signed 8 years after the first.
Private Bill Wilson: As for #38, you are a liar. I didn't say that Treaty was in effect today.
Here is what he said. It is still on the Internet Wayback Machine.
++++
That would be the same John AMay 22, 2007 - 17:10 ET by j. frank wilson
That would be the same John Adams who recommended the US Senate ratify the treaty of peace between the US and the Barbary states? The treaty that confimed the USA is not a Christian nation? That's been the law for what - the past 200+ years?
++++
Eight years later when America gained a military upper hand on the situation, this
Treaty was renegotiated in 1805-6, and the “non-Christian” Article 11 phrase was
conspicuously removed and absent!
++++
...the Treaty of Tripoli only lasted for eight years and no longer has legal status...
What does it feel like getting COLD BUSTED by The Vet?
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:52am.
Does it hurt Fwankie? Is it like getting punched in the gut?
Where did you go little Sissy? You said - He's proven he can call people liars. He's also proven he can't back it up.
Done backed up little Sissy that calls The Vet a liar. Done backed up.
Please little Sissy. Come back You said - You have no facts. You call people liars but you can't prove it .
I PROVED it little Sissy. Had the facts little Sissy.
You are nothing buy a Sissy and a LIAR and it is all you will ever be.
2 Confirmed LIES down little Sissy j. frank Wilson.
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:57am.
132 to go. Anytime you want to finally act like a man, that forum is there, has been for 5 months. Of course your 2 confirmed LIES are there as well.
The Collected Lies of J. Frank Wilson. Newsbusters oldest prolific lying troll.
Come back little Sissy Fwankie. Come back.
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 02/01/2011 - 1:36am.
What does it feel like Fwankie? You run like a little Sissy for 5 months. Finally muster up a little courage and try to face down one of your lies. And you get smacked so hard, with such vehement force that, hey, look at that, it is an imprint of The Vet's Navy ring in your skull.
Sissy. Wanna try owning up to another lie? 5 months. That forum sits there. Any. Time. Sissy.
Capt. UnderPants;
Submitted by j. frank wilson on Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:07pm.
You are correct - my memory didn't serve. It double-faulted. The US was not founded as a "Christian Nation." That was confirmed by that Treaty. Where I wrote it was still in effect - I was wrong.
Now perhaps you'd be so kind as to point out where in the US Constitution it states the Supreme Court is to rule on the constitutionality of laws passed by Congress?
And, while you are at it, why Marbury vs. Madison didn't change that?
If you ask me to "source" something that isn't there - just read the Constitution for yourself.
If I lied, I'm sure you can find it with no problem.
What was that Lying Sissy?
Submitted by The Vet on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 3:49am.
j. frank wilson the 144 time lying Sissy: You are correct...I was wrong.
j. frank wilson the 144 time lying Sissy: You have no facts.
j. frank wilson the 144 time lying Sissy: You are correct...I was wrong.
j. frank wilson the 144 time lying Sissy: You call people liars but you can't prove it.
j. frank wilson the 144 time lying Sissy: You are correct...I was wrong.
j. frank wilson the 144 time lying Sissy: You dodge, you duck... You don't offer facts.
j. frank wilson the 144 time lying Sissy: You are correct...I was wrong.
j. frank wilson the 144 time lying Sissy: ...prove it. ...you can't
j. frank wilson the 144 time lying Sissy: You are correct...I was wrong.
j. frank wilson the 144 time lying Sissy:...bluster. ...neither you or they can prove it. ...proven to be all bluster, no fact.
j. frank wilson the 144 time lying Sissy: You are correct...I was wrong.
j. frank wilson the 144 time lying Sissy: He's proven he can call people liars. He's also proven he can't back it up.
j. frank wilson the 144 time lying Sissy: You are correct...I was wrong.
PS: I am not here to have a dialogue with you the LYING SISSY. I am here to prove YOU LIE. And I have told you time and again, this is not the place to discuss YOUR LIES. Go to the forum and source it you little lying snit.
PS: Should anyone want to go back to the wayback machine I linked above. j frank wilson the lying sissy was corrected in that original forum. He is a 3 time liar. He knew the treaty was renegotiated 8 year later.
May 23, 2007 - 22:48 ET by misterbill: The treaty of Tripoli remained on the books for eight years, at which time the treaty was renegotiated, and Article 11 was dropped. "
j. frank wilson LIES again.
Submitted by The Vet on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 3:49am.
The 144 time Lying Sissy: US was not founded as a "Christian Nation." That was confirmed by that Treaty.
I never argued that point. Here is what I wrote ---
38. Claimed a treaty that was signed with the Barbary Pirates is still in effect today. The Treaty was rewritten & signed 8 years after the first.
The 144 time Lying Sissy: ...you deflect. ... Deflect. ... Deflect.
Who is deflecting here Sissy?
more than that jfrankie*
Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 4:19pm.
-my memory didnt serve-
Sorry sir, your faulty memory isnt a matter of "forgot his phone number"..When you err in the very basic premise of the founding fathers in their efforts to create our constitution, you then permeate, with faulty thinking, all of your concepts and interpretations of any constitutional or societal issues.May I suggest, delete, clear the recycle bin, upload accurate data. Reboot.
cajun2:
Submitted by j. frank wilson on Thu, 02/03/2011 - 3:13pm.
You're reading way too much into what I wrote.
You're hoping a detail changes the entire picture.
It doesn't.
ZZZZZZZZZ
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 7:41am.
Huh? What was that? Oh the Sissy was here again. And as usual couldn't face up to his lies again. Guess what Fwankie. It ain't milk. Your lies will be waiting right there. They ain't gonna spoil. They ain't gonna go bad and get tossed out.
2 Lies you got Cold Busted on and had to admit you indeed DID lie. 142 to go.
Any day you want to stop acting like a Sissy, I am waiting right there in that forum.
Hey, did you see your buddy Garlock? He has a forum now too. He, a very stupid man, like you thinks I will just shut up and go away after noting your every single lie. Not very bright of him, huh? Yeah, you two need to get together. Maybe move in. Of course that might not go over very well with your current love, balboa.
Lie after lie, j. frank Puddinhead wilson---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 02/01/2011 - 2:51am.
documented, registered, and shown; right on these threads, and you continue to deny same.
I point this out, again, so that your pea brain can wrap itself around the idea that because you have been caught out lying over and over, your sad, pitiful, disavowal of that fact, while pathetic in the extreme, changes nothing; and you are seen for what you are: a tiresome, thread-space wasting putz.
MD
You keep nursing that hurt butt balboa.
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 02/03/2011 - 7:05am.
Don't forget. Twice a day. Rub that salve on that poor hurt butt. Poor little Twollie. I proved you lied. I proved Fwankie lied. Get over it. 6 days later and you are still whining.
I told everyone what a dummy you are. Fwankie knew he was nailed to the wall. Here you are still, a week later, still whining. Still got Veet on the mind. Just another crybaby troll with Veet Syndrome. Veet is a word bully. Veet hurt trollies. Someone stop Veet nah. Trollie gotz right to liez heah nah. Damzitz. You heah trolliez? Trolliz got right to lie.
Shut up you diaper wearing crybaby troll.
And day 7 dawns with another full diaper for balboa.
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 02/03/2011 - 12:14pm.
Day 7 for the throbbing hurt butt on the crypto-dummy balboa: ...people not caring for my P.O.V. on this site...Owweez. Mumzie, my butt hurts more ever dayz.
Hey boys and girls, time for an impression. Who am I?
Veet. Veet!. Veet? Veet. Veet. Lollies. Veet! Veet. Veet. Veet call me liarz. Diapy full. Veet! Veet? Veet?!
Aww. You are too good. Yep. It was an impression of every butt hurt troll ever.
So what is it little butt hurt diaper troll, do you have the Veet or do you got Veet on the brain? You lied little butt hurt trollie. LIVE. WITH. IT. AND. SHUT. UP. No one cares about your constant non-stop unending whine after whine about how butt hurt you are over Teh Veet.
And the 8th day the doctor arrived.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 02/05/2011 - 6:51am.
He took one look at the Sissy balboa's red raw scratchy tushie and said "That is the worst case of hurt butt I have ever seen." And he put the Sissy balboa on a high dose regimen of antibiotics and alternating ice/hot packs.
Shut up you whining Sissy, what are you going to come here and whine because The Vet nailed you in a lie for the REST OF YOUR LIFE?
You lied little butt hurt trollie. LIVE. WITH. IT. AND. SHUT. UP.