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By Jeffrey Meyer | January 31, 2012 | 17:16

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On Monday’s Now with Alex Wagner, former presidential candidate Herman Cain joined the growing chorus of individuals who are denouncing the vicious attacks against Newt Gingrich. 

Once again, MSNBC host Wagner implied that Gingrich’s recent comments about Obama were racially-charged, but Cain shot down such absurd attacks.  Cain, who has endorsed the former House Speaker, reiterated the obvious: "there is no racial overtone in Gingrich’s statements." [See video below. MP3 audio here.]

Despite this, Wagner and Wes Moore, an African-American author and commentator, continued the attack on Gingrich and Cain, suggesting that as a fellow African-American, Cain must see the ‘obvious’ racial messages in Gingrich’s language.

Cain denounced such charges and turned the tables on Wagner and Moore by arguing the real offense "is people looking for something that’s not there."  Moore took this line of attack further, questioning Cain’s entire friendship with the former Speaker, by trying to incite anger in Cain against his friend by pushing the lie that Gingrich’s campaign is full of racial overtones and trying to splinter Cain’s relationship with Gingrich.  Outnumbered, Cain stood up to these vicious and despicable attacks on the GOP presidential contender, at least bringing some opposing view on the "dog whistle" nonsense to MSNBC.

Below is the relevant transcript from Monday’s show:

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NOW With Alex Wagner
01/31/2012
12:33 pm


Alex Wagner: Let's talk a little more about the Gingrich endorsement and specifically newt Gingrich as a candidate.  And we talked about this I think the first time we spoke via remote.   Newt Gingrich has come under fire from a lot of folks regarding comments he’s made about the minority communities. Whether that’s calling President Obama the food stamp president.  Talking about how minority communities do not understand work ethic.  Getting into a verbal sort of debate with Juan Williams.  Let's play a little bit of sound from Newt Gingrich, speaking about.... Sorry, it’s a full screen and I will read the quote from Newt Gingrich saying, ‘I had a very interesting dialogue Monday night in Myrtle Beach with Juan Williams about the idea of work, which seemed to Juan Williams to be a strange distant concept.’  And again, his comments regarding Spanish, and, and, sort of insinuating that it may be the language of the ghetto.  I ask you, this as a former presidential candidate and also a minority, what do you make of Newt Gingrich’s attitude and his comments regarding minorities in this country?


Herman Cain: Nothing. I have known Newt Gingrich since the early '90s. He appointed me to the Economic Growth and Tax Reform Commission when Jack Kemp was the Chairman. People who are looking for racial over tones in that kind of rhetoric, there's nothing there.

Wagner: So you find none of that divisive?  You find none of it...  

Cain: No I.. It is divisive to the people who are looking for some sort of implied racial statement.   It doesn't exist. I’ve known Newt  for decades. When I first with Newt Gingrich as Speaker of the House,  in Washington, D.C., we sat down and had a one on one conversation, we’ve had conversations over the years. While he was in Congress.  When he started his American Solutions.  So, no, I don’t feel as if he has anything in his heart that implies that he’s got something against the different races or any type of racial innuendo.  I think it is just people looking for something that’s not there.              

Wes Moore:  I, I, if I may.  The thing I have to say about that, you know, your personal friendship with Newt Gingrich aside, the comments that he made about this specific issue and not only are they inaccurate, but they are offensive. And they are offensive not just against minority groups but I think all people and all Americans who believe there are a whole lot of people out there, whether it be white, black, a variety of different colors, poor and middle class who are all trying to find, trying find a piece of this larger idea of the American dream and the American pie. And who, when they hear comments like those, the one that Speaker Gingrich put together, they not only see that this is how, somehow this wall is built against them for the chance to succeed, but then also that people who are in positions of power and who have large megaphones, are continuing to pull out this kind of this, this, you know vitriolic and nasty language. So regardless of the friendship, I can't understand how you can hear those comments....

Cain: Put the friendship aside, I take issue with you calling it vitriolic. It is not vitriolic.  If you are looking for that.  If you want to position it as that, you will.  Here’s what I know Newt Gingrich wants to do.  Bring down those walls that you’re talking about.  He wants, he believes in opportunity zones.  He wants to help people to empower themselves.  I know this firsthand not just because of the friendship.  

Moore: But by indicating that a Pulitzer Price winning journalist is somehow lazy, by indicating that people who...

Cain: He didn't say that.

Moore: By indicating, by indicating people, that, that,

Cain: He did not imply that.

Moore:  That are from low income communities...and minorities are somehow, don’t have a high work ethic.
           
Cain: He did not imply that.  I watched the segment like everybody else.  You know to say he was trying to insult Juan Williams, I didn’t take it that way. And a lot of people, a lot of black people didn't take it that way. My point is this and then we can end this subject and move on.  If you are looking for something that you think insinuates a racial overtone, you will find it.  

Wagner: So but, for those people that do feel like it insinuated a racial overtone, you say, you’re wrong.  That, that it’s not there.  

Cain: It’s wrong, and I don't know what to tell them to get over that. I’m just simply saying, If you are looking for that, you will find it some how, some way. I simply reject it because I am interested in bringing people together.           


 

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Way to go

Submitted by helomech on Tue, 01/31/2012 - 5:33pm.

Mr Cain!

I'm glad he too, is standing up to to these self-important, lying a$$hats. As he said, they're looking for something that just isn't there. Eventually they'll realize that, there is indeed, NOTHING there..

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Cain is still the man

Submitted by Tomorama on Tue, 01/31/2012 - 5:46pm.

Though I am unhappy he is endorsing Newtie, I still however respect him greatly.

What happened to "all those women" that were claiming this and that about Cain?

ABC finish paying them off?

If you make poverty easy, you will have more of it. Benjamin Franklin
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Mission Accomplished

Submitted by Free Stinker on Tue, 01/31/2012 - 6:19pm.

"all those women" did what they were supposed to. Make Cain drop out.

Now that the Dems are done using them, we won't hear anymore from them.

 

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"All those women"

Submitted by nanabanana on Tue, 01/31/2012 - 6:19pm.

I've wondered that as well - where are they? Not a peep since Mr. Cain dropped out, not even from that "lady" lawyer. Nothing. They 'got their way', and we lost a good candidate. Sigh.

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In spite of their best efforts, the clowns at MSNBC...

Submitted by KyWriter on Tue, 01/31/2012 - 5:46pm.

...cannot put one over on Herman Cain. My admiration for this man continues to grow.

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~Liberals know

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Tue, 01/31/2012 - 6:25pm.

good and damn well that they're making this race crap up; the point isn't that they actually think what they're saying is true, the point is that instead of people talking about the Constitution and how it relates to the issues of the day, they're talking about this pointless, unprovable, made-up drivel.

Topic changed, mission accomplished.

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Et tu, Brute (Santorum)?

Submitted by vrwc13 on Tue, 01/31/2012 - 6:37pm.

4:55 p.m. ET - While voting continues in Florida, Santorum released an ad in Nevada and Colorado Tuesday that criticizes rival Newt Gingrich by comparing his past stances to those of House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi and President Barack Obama.

...is he looking for the Veep spot with McRomney?

Or is he waiting in the wings for Newt to crash and taker sole possession of the AnyoneButMcRomney vote?

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The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne

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I just saw that via Twitter

Submitted by bkeyser on Tue, 01/31/2012 - 6:44pm.

and was about to post it. Ooof. That one's gonna hurt Newt. And no, I don't think he's looking for -or will be offered the VP slot if he's not the nominee.

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Soooo, why is he dinging Newt?

Submitted by vrwc13 on Tue, 01/31/2012 - 7:09pm.

Has he dinged McRomney as bad?

  • He's young (53)
  • VP would add greatly to his resume
  • 8 years from now would be shoo-in nominee after (gulp) 8 years of McRomney

Does he add value to a McRomney ticket?

UPDATE:  Santorum promises high road, 'We'll beat them straight up'

"We want someone who's going to take the high road, who's going to talk about the issues that are important to this country and quit getting down into the gutter and talking about things that have nothing to do with who should be the next President of the United States," Santorum said

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Just wondering, vrwc13.

Submitted by Kingfish17 on Tue, 01/31/2012 - 8:00pm.

Of the remaining four candidates, who do you want to see be the Republican nominee? Is there a viable alternative the four who could emerge, if you can't stand any of the the candidates who are left to choose from?

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Neither Romney or Paul would get my vote.

Submitted by vrwc13 on Wed, 02/01/2012 - 10:51am.

Neither Romney or Paul would get my vote.  Don't like either one or their stances on the issues.

If it was between Gingrich and Santorum, Santorum fits better in what I would look for and whom I would agree with.  Although, I agree with Chuck Norris on most of his points, I think he goes with Newt on the 'electability' issues.  Too bad that 'electability' has to rule the day and not 'best fit'.

Sadly, the most qualified and best match to my positions was Perry (Chuck Norris agrees).  Too bad one four letter word could have so much impact.

 

UPDATE: this says it all - Romney's Cheap and Empty Win
 

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Why I love Cain

Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 01/31/2012 - 6:39pm.

He can hold his own with the MSM. I hope he continues to be active for the conservative cause. Regarding this comment, And who, when they hear comments like those, the one that Speaker Gingrich put together, they not only see that this is how, somehow this wall is built against them for the chance to succeed, by Wes Moore, yes there is a wall. It is surmounted by hard work and saving for the future. It's not easy, and sometimes there are circumstances that push people down. But take a look at the legal immigrants to this country, they work hard, push their kids to succeed in school, and don't take handouts. I call B.S. on Moore.

Proud member of the 53%!
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Who is the hell is Wes Moore?

Submitted by drsamherman on Tue, 01/31/2012 - 6:52pm.

His name sounds like an oxymoron. He just sounds like a moron.

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Porn actor, circa 1970. AKA 'Blue Sox'.

Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 01/31/2012 - 7:10pm.

;)

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Which One?

Submitted by stratman on Tue, 01/31/2012 - 7:18pm.

http://www.salon.com/2010/05/09/wes_moore_interview/

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Only thing I don't get

Submitted by mustango on Tue, 01/31/2012 - 8:25pm.

If Cain knows all of the above then why was he so easily lured into going along with the race card on Perry? I bet that's part of why Cain was given this interview, because they thought they could get another helping of that. They thought wrong of course, but still, I can see why they had hope.

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Gloria Allred and Politico's Jon Martin can just kiss my big, f-

Submitted by Phryj1 on Wed, 02/01/2012 - 1:28am.

-pardon there, got a little carried away.

Still wish Cain was in the running.

Herman Cain was the best candidate, and they slandered and libeled him. Even though an independent investigation cleared Cain of any wrongdoing, even though it was an obvious nuisance lawsuit, even though his accusers have been revealed to be unscrupulous lying gold diggers, AND even though analysis of Cain's statements with lie detection software showed Cain to be telling the truth, he was dropped out.

The MSM didn't report ANY of the facts that exonerated Cain. Why? Because the the left was terrified of him. Because they KNEW their race-bating narrative was DOA if Cain got the GOP nomination. That, and the fact that the MSM has hated the Tea Party from day 1 just for daring to criticize the chosen one.

Journalistic integrity? Not when the MSM's got DNC candidates and policies to peddle like snake oil.

Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.

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I hope that Cain gets some

Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 02/01/2012 - 1:38am.

I hope that Cain gets some kind of position in the new 'Republican' administration - if things go the way we 'hope' they do - although I have to admit to NOT being optimistic, given the current conditions. And that is REALLY ironic, because we have the WORST thing that has EVER happened to our country since it was founded, as 'PRESIDENT', and he has NOTHING that he can run on..............and we are STILL in a position to 'snatch defeat from the jaws of victory', which is not unusual for the 'Republican' Party!!!

But Cain could be a positive addition - to some sort of business category - and it would be 'payback is a motherf**ker' for the StateRun Media and the REGIME - who purposly did ALL they could to destroy this guy. And, if these allegations were so godd**m important - why have they faded into obscurity, now that Cain has been run out of town on a rail, tarred and feathered, and lambasted beyond reprehension???

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