It's hard to find an upside to the continuous drumbeat of bad economic news. But on April 7, MSNBC host and Obama cheerleader Rachel Maddow felt compelled to try.
"There is a silver lining here, maybe," Maddow said. "As horrible as the jobs numbers are and as pessimistic as executives across the country appear to be - Americans broadly speaking are actually sort of increasingly optimistic these days."
Maddow cited a New York Times/CBS poll that indicated more Americans think the United States is heading in the right direction, the number who think the economy is getting worse has decreased and more are thinking the bank bailout will help "all Americans" - all of this occurring since President Barack Obama was sworn in back in January.
"Poll numbers like those are just a measure of the public's mood," Maddow said. "But, when everyone talks about how important it is for people to have confidence in the economy, for people to expect that things will get better - is it possible for this little inexplicable bout of public optimism could be a self-fulfilling prophecy?"
The answer: No - according to New York Times columnist and Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman. Despite his liberal leanings, Krugman wasn't having any of it. He disagreed with Maddow's premise that the new attitude change she was attributing to Obama's presidency would do anything for the overall economy.
"The trouble is - better to have people slightly optimistic, sheer panic is not good for anything, but the fact of the matter is we have some real, real problems. They're not going to go away with self-fulfilling optimism." Krugman said.
"You know, one of the little things that has been reported is the IMF has now, the International Monetary Fund has upped its estimate of losses on bad loans to $4 trillion," he continued. "Not so long ago, $1 trillion was considered an exorbitant estimate."
Krugman praised Obama for the optimism, but noted that wasn't enough.
"The problem is there are a lot of real underlying mistakes that were made that landed us in this mess. The public's optimism is good. People believe Obama is likely to do the right thing - that's all good, but it's not enough."
The public optimism Maddow cited also doesn't reflect the deeply divided opinion of the electorate. A Pew Research Center poll released on April 2 found that the disparity in President Obama's job approval ratings between Republicans and Democrats is the widest gap in the modern era.



















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But, but, I thought that it
April 8, 2009 - 16:16 ET by Chris NormanBut, but, I thought that it was peoples optimism about how things would always be better and their houses values would continue to go up was a big reason that led to this mess. I thought it was us peasants optimistally and greedily spending beyond our means. At least, that's what the liberals used to tell us in 2008 BO.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Amazingly Maddow would be
April 8, 2009 - 16:15 ET by snaggletoothieAmazingly Maddow would be attacking the same bailout and hoping for it to fail if it had been a Bush initiative.
I womder how much that guy had to pay for that Nobel.
Maddow cited a New York
April 8, 2009 - 16:20 ET by MidAmericaMaddow cited a New York Times/CBS poll that indicated more Americans think the United States is heading in the right direction, the number who think the economy is getting worse has decreased and more are thinking the bank bailout will help "all Americans" - all of this occurring since President Barack Obama was sworn in back in January.
Oh-kay... a poll from NYT and CBS. And they find that Americans are warming up to the idea of sending billions of tax dollars to large banks.
Personally, I haven't run into any of those people.
Maddow cited a New York Times/CBS
April 8, 2009 - 17:14 ET by urbuggenmeCBS/New York Times poll... if you only poll the same 10 people who watch CBS, read the New York Times and actully watch the "Strap-on" Madcow show ...your numbers might look good!
How about get out and really talk to "REAL WORKING" Americans; ask them about what is your employer telling you about your job future? Are you going to even get the "standard" 2 or 3% pay increase this year or has your employer told you they are worried about how things are going...is your manager getting his raise or bonus or are they too worried? It may be you won't have a job next month...who knows? This is what "REAL, WORKING,Full Time Americans are seeing and hearing in the work place all across America in every industry.
Ms. Maddow needs to wake up and get his/her head of his/her ass!
Am I concerned? OH HELL NO! WE voted for and got CHANGE!... damn it... I ain't got enough change for the damn bus ride home tonight!
I am a respectable redneck, bigoted, racist, gay bashing homophobe,
democrat slamming, liberal trashing, ACLU cussing, gun toting, Muslim
hating, SUV driving gas guzzling, cigarette smoking by the No Smoking
sign, beer drinking, meat eating, resource wasting, free porno
watching, God fearing Christian...employed full time and single and going BROKE
This is the ultimate in Liberal Derangement
April 8, 2009 - 16:24 ET by Lord ErondUnemployment 25%
Interest Rates 15%
Gas 7 dollars a gallon!
But boy those Americans are optimistic!!
ARE THESE MORONS INSANE? (that's a rhetorical question, BTW. I go on Think Progress and it's almost VIOLENT over there).
"To sin by silence when we should protest, makes cowards of men" -Ella Wheeler Wilcox
maybe sorta kinda?
April 8, 2009 - 16:28 ET by katainkentJournalistic epic fail.
He's the AA President
April 8, 2009 - 16:50 ET by slickwillie2001The rock-bottom base of Obammy's support is the same group of people and the same percentage that believe in affirmative action. He can't go below that number. That gives him a permanent advantage in the running approval polls.
The Powere Of The Nobel Prize...
April 8, 2009 - 17:19 ET by jdripperSince gaining the Nobel Prize I do believe that Paul Krugman has tempered his crazed liberalism. He has taken a more sober and thoughtful approach to his thoughts. I guess the one good thing that came from his winning it would be he now seems to wish to live up to it.
Jack
"If at age 20 you are a conservative then you have no heart. If at age 30 you are a liberal then you have no brains." Sir Winston Churchill
Nobel effect?
April 8, 2009 - 19:31 ET by slickwillie2001If it had that effect on him that would be a first for the Nobel Prize.
Me thinks Maddow is missing the obvious, here...
April 8, 2009 - 22:16 ET by Gary HallShe so confidently stated:
What that actually means, Rachael, is that back in mid-January, we were only confident that 15% of the country was certifiably nuts. Now, we understand that 24% more are in the same boat...
..with you.
(:~/ gary
Maddow slyly replaced the word "I" with "Americans".
April 9, 2009 - 08:03 ET by kg"DumbAssity of Dope"
Screen captions
April 9, 2009 - 02:14 ET by SchnikeysThese screen captions are quite something:
"American optimism about the economy rises as Obama returns from trip."
I see no reason to put two separate things in the same caption when their relationship is undetermined.
"American optimism about the economy rises..."
Alright, well that would be considered good news by many.
"...as Obama returns from trip."
Well, what difference does that make? How is the President's return from his trip (which, by the way, included six stops- aside from the G-20 summit- that had very little to do with the economy) relevant to Americans' optimism about the economy?