The penguins soon won’t have a home and it’s all our fault.
You might get that impression after watching the January 14 “Our Planet” segment on “NBC Nightly News” about the ice shift in
“In 2006, the Antarctic peninsula near South America lost 60 billion metric tons of ice; 132 billion tons disappeared in
Thompson blamed mankind as the “prime suspect” for the changes – ignoring all other possibilities, despite some scientists that are skeptical of that theory.
“Like the warming scientists are seeing in
But it isn’t a unanimous “consensus” the ice in
A recent report posted by Marc Morano, communications director for the U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, outlined the objections of 400 prominent scientists from more than two dozen countries to major aspects of the so-called “consensus” on manmade global warming. One of those scientists had doubts about man’s ability to have a profound sudden impact on
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MMMMM......Not so much truth here.
January 15, 2008 - 15:19 ET by OldSailor88Here's a blog with a link to the photo evidence that the Antarctic Ice Sheet is growing. Sorry AGW freakazoids. Scientific evidence proves your consensus wrong........again.
Faciem durum cacantis habes
Aw c'mon, everybody knows
January 15, 2008 - 15:24 ET by Clear thinkerAw c'mon, everybody knows that Penguins taste like Chicken!
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
LOL
January 15, 2008 - 15:32 ET by OldSailor88You would think that penguins would taste like fish. I guess we could ask a leopard seal.
Faciem durum cacantis habes
Of course
January 15, 2008 - 15:33 ET by fonzie2178she ignored any other possibility! To admit any exist is to admit the end of the man made global warming scam... The libs can't be bothered with such "inconveniences" like facts.
Some help, please.....
January 15, 2008 - 15:42 ET by FreakyBoySince the South Pole is truly the southern most part Antartica, just where exactly is "West Antartica"?
Wouldn't any point in any direction from there be North Antartica?
just West of
January 15, 2008 - 15:44 ET by fonzie2178Eastern North Pole. :-)
Geographically-impaired
January 15, 2008 - 16:58 ET by GalvanicGood point, Freaky Boy. My guess is it's somewhere between Oz and Mordor.
Freak, just in case you are
January 15, 2008 - 22:03 ET by MikeBFreak, just in case you are serious, I'll try and answer. Antarctica is a continent the size of North America, not a point. All points on that continent, indeed, on the whole globe are north of the south pole. As there is an east and left...uh, exuse me, west coast on the North American continent, there is an east and a west portion of the Antarctic continent, unless your frame of reference is the south pole, in which case, yes there are only northern coastlines on that continent.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Sorry, still not right...
January 16, 2008 - 11:16 ET by SpoonThere is a west coast in North America because if you walk (drive, fly, etc) west, you reach the coast. In Antarctica, if you walk west until you reach the coast, you'll be walking forever. There will always be more Antarctica west of you. Note: far enough north and you will see western edges of pennisulas or outcroppings, but the western coast of Florida is not the same as western North America.
Why not get your facts
January 15, 2008 - 15:44 ET by 10ksnookerFrom the source. In the Internet age, the actual data is online, for ice it's all here http://arctic.atmos.... -- Independent of any spin, lies, obfuscation or otherwise coloring.
Guess what? The Arctic ice is recovering rapidly from last year's lows, and the Antarctic ice is at record levels. All without man doing anything.
The hoax is designed to separate the taxpayer from their money, anyone think to ask how paying more taxes solves anything? Or how using Ethanol and generating CO2 is better than using gasoline and generating CO2? If you think CO2 is a pollutant, don't exhale :-).
We could all benefit
January 15, 2008 - 15:47 ET by fonzie2178from the MSM not exhaling. That is if they REALLY think they can do something to save the environment. They bellow more noxious gas in a half hour than my Expedition does driving coast to coast! :-)
This story has picked up so
January 15, 2008 - 15:46 ET by FryeThis story has picked up so much traction with the MSM you would think it was the end of the world. Unfortunately, the methodologies used in this report are suspect, and appears to be suspiciously motivated by the IPCC (they stated on MSNBC they plan a field trip to see this 'catastrophe.' For more balanced information, see these links:
Antarctic Peninsula In the News
Latest Antarctic Sea Ice Extent
You know if they had tied
January 15, 2008 - 15:51 ET by Airforce_5_OYou know if they had tied one of the Gitmo detainees to that sled we could have had a water boarding demo and killed two liberal talking points in one report.
The Penguins just signed an
January 15, 2008 - 15:53 ET by BruzillaThe Penguins just signed an agreement with the City of Pittsburgh for a new arena to replace the aging Civic Arena, aka "The Igloo", which will be melting away due to global warming (or maybe a controlled demolition) in another year or so. So fear not... the Penguins do in fact have a new home.
go pens
January 15, 2008 - 16:12 ET by BurgherAnd liberal community nearby is trying to squeeze the Penguins organization for anything they can get
Just plain stupid
January 15, 2008 - 16:02 ET by Mike From CanmoreGiven the specific heat of salt water, the idea a recent warming of 0.6 deg C could drive enough heat into a mass the size of the oceans and change ice freeze/thaw patterns to any significant degree is so utterly ridiculous it is truly hard to fathom how people can be so blatantly stupid.
*There are 2 types of politicians. Those who know AGW is a scam and those who are just stupid.
And 60 billion metric tons isn't much
January 15, 2008 - 16:11 ET by RoverAnd how much would 60 billion metric tons be, anyway? Someone should back up my back-of-the-envelope calculation here, but this is a depression in the ice sheet that's about thirty-five feet deep by sixty miles square. Might be impressive to look at, but on a continent the size of North America, suggesting that this is anything but trivial is disingenuous at best.
Rover
Rover, I get 23 feet deep
January 15, 2008 - 16:29 ET by hydrodynDMRover,
I get 23 feet deep by sixty miles square - close enough.
Note to Anne Thompson, NBC
January 15, 2008 - 16:36 ET by drillanwrNote to Anne Thompson, NBC News chief environmental affairs correspondent:
Dear Anne,
I'll get right on that ...
Ok, I'll bite, how much has
January 15, 2008 - 17:16 ET by jdhawkOk, I'll bite, how much has the ocean risen due to this "catastrophe"?" What, it hasn't?
Pfffftttt . . .
By the way, when you see the rich like the Kennedys at their compound in Masstaxes start moving their homes inland or putting them up on stilts like some kind of thatched hut in a tropic land, then you can start worrying about GW.
Speaking of the Kennedys, weren't they the ones that fought the alternative energy windmills off their coast - because it would ruin the ambience?
Do as I say - not as I do . . .
Seems that last year. Al
January 15, 2008 - 17:35 ET by danboSeems that last year. Al Gore bought a new place in San Francisco. Is it above the high water mark? Does Al Gore believe himself and is just a really stupid investor. Or is Al Gore a hypocrite that doesn't believe his own BS.
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
An Inconvenient truth.
January 15, 2008 - 17:32 ET by danboThe only problem with her story. Base San Martin and Faraday Have been cooling since the high point in the late 80's. Was she concerned about AGW in 89? And something very interesting happened at Cms Vice Do Marmabio and Base Esperanz on 07.
Did my pick up do that?
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
They know what's going on?
January 15, 2008 - 18:10 ET by danboThe IPCC forcast going back to 1990. High, Low and Mid sensitivity. Vrs Remote Sensing Systems (satellite) data, GISS data (Hansen), UKMET (United Kingdom Meteroological Office), U of Alabama Huntsville calculatuions (Drs Christy and Spencer)
Here and the source.
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
The RSS satellite data
January 15, 2008 - 18:22 ET by Sick-n-TiredThe RSS satellite data tells the WHOLE story. We know that surface based sensors and gauging stations are often placed in, how do I say this, um, "compromising positions"......
Even at that though look how Hansens curve goes up in relation to the UKMET and UofA data. Naaaawwwww, their not skewing the data are they??....<end sarc>
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life," Richard Lindzen - March 2007.
I'm assuming the graph is
January 15, 2008 - 18:45 ET by danboI'm assuming the graph is measuring + - degrees C variance from the 1990 base.
If so the variance between Hansen and RSS is about .3. What's the supposed warm up for the last 100 years? .6? .8?
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
The Antarctic Ice is GROWING!
January 15, 2008 - 21:21 ET by PopularTechThey are so desperate to spread propaganda they will even lie about this.
Antarctica - Antarctic Ice Shelf Retreats Happened Before (Science Daily)
Antarctica - Antarctic Sea Ice Increases over Past Two Decades (Space.com)
Antarctica - Antarctic Temperatures Disagree With Climate Model Predictions (Science Daily)
Antarctica - Ice Core 'Dipstick' Indicates West Antarctic Ice Has Thinned Less Than Believed (Science Daily)
Antarctica - Ice 'thickens' in West Antarctica (BBC)
Antarctica - No Major Changes Seen In Stability Of Antarctic Ice Sheet (Science Daily)
Antarctica - Pondering A Climate Conundrum In Antarctica; Unique, Distinct Cooling Trend Discovered On Earth's Southernmost Continent (Science Daily)
"...seasonally averaged surface air temperature has decreased by 0.7 degrees Celsius per decade"
Antarctica - Researchers find Antarctic ice is thickening (USA Today)
Antarctica - Satellites Show Overall Increases In Antarctic Sea Ice Cover (NASA)
Antarctica - Scientists Detect Thickening Of West Antarctic Ice Sheet (Science Daily)
Antarctica - Scientists Rule Out One Threat Of Antarctic Collapse (Science Daily)
Antarctica - Snowfall-Driven Growth in East Antarctic Ice Sheet Mitigates Recent Sea-Level Rise (Science)
Antarctica - Study: Antarctic Ice Sheet Is Thickening, Not Thinning (ABC News)
Antarctica - The Antarctic Ice Sheet is Growing Thicker (Not by Fire but by Ice)
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
PopTech does it again!
January 15, 2008 - 21:28 ET by Free StinkerPopTech does it again! Good work! ;-)
Take that Libs!
Newsbusters. Log on and find out What the heck is so yummy over here!
You need to admitt that in
January 15, 2008 - 22:47 ET by Conservative in the ArtsYou need to admitt that in this report, she does confess that the other side of Antartica has not loss any ice at all.
"The penguins soon won’t
January 16, 2008 - 01:53 ET by ckc1227"The penguins soon won’t have a home and it’s all our fault."
Not a big deal. If it comes to this, the penguins can just fly to a new home.
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Hey, it could happen. We are talking about make believe here. :)
Penguins
January 16, 2008 - 03:14 ET by Cool ArrowIt's so sad, but I've heard Arctic Penguins are extinct.
Why isn't the MSM reporting on this travesty?
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The math is not difficult
January 17, 2008 - 00:17 ET by Ralph Hansen Ph. D.I worked through the calculation for the sea level rise associated with the loss of 200 billion metric tons of ice after I heard the figure in a scary History Channel shockumentary that Greenland was shedding that amount each year.
If spread over the entire planet, that volume of meltwater would raise sea level .01 inches. So if the rate of melting continues, sea level would rise one inch in the next 100 years. Doesn't sound quite as scary as 200 billion metric tons though, does it?
Significant parts of the Antarctic continent have never seen temperatures above zero degrees Fahrenheit, much less a temperature approaching the melting point of ice.
A similar statement can be made of the Greenland ice sheet, although the cold is not nearly as severe. According to Weather Underground, the highest temperature recorded last summer at Summit Camp on the Greenland ice sheet was 34 degrees on June 26. It was the only time in 2007 the temperature reached the melting point.
But surely the whole thing will soon slide into the ocean. Gimme a break!