Following in the footsteps of Newsweek Magazine, and CNN's Miles O'Brien's recent claim that the debate is over, NBC News further degraded the global warming debate this evening. In a report on global warming "deniers", Ann Thompson declared the debate over anthropogenic global warming "over".
In a segment that was spun against skeptics from the start (including the requisite repeated referral to those who question the human impact on climate change by using the derogatory and historically-loaded "deniers" label), Patrick Michaels was given just a few seconds of air time to point out a primary tenet of skeptics: while the Earth is indeed likely warming, the human connection cannot be quantified. But from there, the segment took the usual left turn, immediately vilifying the "deniers".
Included were the usual claims of big oil funding with some ExxonMobil graphics splashed across the screen alongside smokestacks and steamy weather stock footage. To close the report, Ann Thompson put the global warming alarmists' favorite nail in the coffin of debate:
The debate is no longer over society's role in global warming, it is a matter of degrees.
Never mind that Newsweek's similar reporting on global warming deniers was recently blasted by the magazine's own editor. Never mind that some significant holes have recently been punched in the reliability of the data used to quantify global warming.
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The debate is over, in a way
August 15, 2007 - 18:38 ET by nkviking75The debate is over, in this sense: One side offers facts and logical arguments, and the Global Warming advocates stick their collective fingers in their ears and scream, "I can't hear you! I can't hear you!"
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Isn't...
August 15, 2007 - 19:17 ET by Wildcatter1980it "Na, na, na, na..."?
Just my $0.02
So how many times is the
August 15, 2007 - 18:44 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveSo how many times is the debate going to be declared over by the left? This is the nth time I've seen/read/heard the debate was over. What about all of the preceding times? I'm sure this won't be the last either.
Just another attempt at trying to define the accepted and approved liberal agenda.
"Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! There's still plenty of meat on that bone. Now you take this home, throw it in a pot, add some broth, a potato, baby you've got a stew goin'!" -- Carl Weathers
When authoring this piece I
August 15, 2007 - 18:57 ET by Jake GonteskyWhen authoring this piece I did a quick google news search for "global warming debate over" and got too many relevant returns to count, let alone include in the article, from USA Today to CNN to just about every MSM outlet you can think of.
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When I typed into
August 15, 2007 - 19:13 ET by mandrakeWhen I typed into 'google'
Jimmy Page debate is over"
I got over 1704000 hits...go figure :)
Now Now, there's no reason
August 16, 2007 - 06:38 ET by rob6677Now Now, there's no reason to bring the God of Rock into this forum! lol
"I'm interested in the fact that the less secure a man is, the more likely he is to have extreme prejudice." Clint Eastwood
Can I have a list of names
August 15, 2007 - 19:02 ET by drillanwrCan I have a list of names of both sides who participated in the debate?
Can I have the name(s) of those who judged who actually won the debate ... and their credentials? Actually, I DEMAND IT!
I missed it on TV ... Will it be replayed? And when?
Did Keith Olbermann MC the debate?
Funny you should ask...
August 15, 2007 - 19:05 ET by Jake Gontesky...since the actual debate about global warming was won by the skeptics... so in a sense, it is over, although not in the way it is traditionally covered by the MSM. The results of this actual debate were barely reported:
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Don't you remember?
August 15, 2007 - 19:19 ET by Wildcatter1980It was on YouTube. The talking snowman?
Just my $0.02
I predict ...
August 15, 2007 - 18:54 ET by drillanwrThe word anthropogenic will become as meaningless and irrelevant as hypoallergenic ...
Included were the usual
August 15, 2007 - 19:12 ET by MidAmericaIncluded were the usual claims of big oil funding with some ExxonMobil graphics splashed across the screen alongside smokestacks and steamy weather stock footage.
So what if 'big oil' is trying to defend itself. What entity wouldn't want to protect itself against unfair attacks.
In fact I'd pay a few cents more per gallon if 'big oil' would smash these socialists like the bugs on my windshield. (metaphorically speaking)
Hannity had some figures...
August 15, 2007 - 19:25 ET by Wildcatter1980the other night on his Sunday show. Of the couple million dollars or so "given" to "skeptics" and "deniers," $50 BILLION has been given to AGW "alarmists" and supporters and sympathizers. I just wish he had it posted online, too, unless it is in the video available here.
Just my $0.02
Good News.
August 15, 2007 - 19:13 ET by danboWith all that's happened over the last week. Climate audit is back up.
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
and another thing
August 15, 2007 - 19:16 ET by MidAmericaWe are told we must get out of Iraq because a majority polled says we should.
A majority of Americans do not think global warming is a crisis but that polling doesn't matter. (?)
The debate IS over...the winner is...
August 15, 2007 - 19:18 ET by LionKingThe debate is over and the winner is...apathy. Most people are not buying into Al Gore's vision. The public are the true judges and they do not believe that they can affect the climate. AMAZING!!!
Funny you should mention the American public...
August 15, 2007 - 22:21 ET by reasonsjesterHere are some recent polls that display the abominable state of education in this country:
Only 30% of Americans know that Jefferson was our nation's third president: http://www.foxnews.c....
Americans know Simpsons, flunk Constitution:
http://news.bbc.co.u...
Americans know next to nothing about world geography (you can test your own knowledge here - to an extent):
http://news.national...
A particularly depressing poll that is quite useful, although skewed to
the left (take the "News IQ" poll, and note that a few questions are
loaded). I only got a 77%, or 7/9, but I don't agree with questions about
"perceptions."
http://people-press....
But one of the liberals' biggest concerns with education?
SEX EDUCATION. (See NY Times story on Americans' woeful knowledge of sex in the August 15th, 2007 issue, in the Health section, now removed from online).
And we are going to let the American people "decide" a scientific question such as if anthropogenic global warming is a serious threat? Then we're going to let Al Gore and the Democrats tax the American economy into the ground in the hopes of building a "balanced" international system? This is sheer folly.
"Its good to be da king."
- Your average liberal
When people have run out of
August 15, 2007 - 20:07 ET by LighthouseJWhen people have run out of support and just declare it's over, that reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where George tries to break up with a girl and she just flatly says 'No'. I shake my head at how quickly the left clamps their hands to their head and scream nonsense like a petulent child.
FUNDING
August 15, 2007 - 20:16 ET by TruthMattersI saw the news clip. If I recall correctly, NBC had a big graphic indicating $15 million has been given to fund the "deniers". Noel S. had a post a few weeks ago about Sen Inhoffe staff having similar records....but also that the global warming man made supporters were funded to the tune of $60 BILLION. This was not mentioned by NBC.
Whaat debate?
August 15, 2007 - 21:03 ET by kbworkmanThere is no debate. There is only their demonization of anyone who disagrees with them.
Anyone who had grandparents who were around in the 1930 knows that the AGW advocates are either stupid, or liars.
They are out to gain control of our lives and they are using the same tactics as the Nazis did to gain control of Germany. Only they want the whole world.
Why they do it
August 15, 2007 - 22:08 ET by PopularTechThey have to keep repeating the debate is over because if they attempted to argue the facts they would lose every time:
Quick Facts:
- Global surface temperatures have increased only about 0.6°C in the last 100 years. (IPCC)
- Global average sea level has risen only about 6 inches in the last 100 years. (Based on tidal guage data) (IPCC)
- Global mean sea level rise is in the range of 1.0 to 2.0 mm/yr. (Based on tidal guage data) (IPCC)
- No significant acceleration in the rate of sea level rise during the 20th century has been detected. (IPCC)
- 20 feet of sea level rise would take 3048-6096 years. (Based on tidal guage data) (IPCC)
- Carbon Dioxide (CO2) levels in the atmosphere have risen by about 30% (280-370 ppmv) over the past 100 years. (IPCC)
- Ice core records show Carbon Dioxide (CO2) levels lag behind Temperature changes by hundreds of years. (Source)
- Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is only about 0.038% of the atmosphere. (NASA)
- Carbon Dioxide accounts for about 4.2-8.4% of the greenhouse effect. (Source)
- Humans can only claim responsibility for about 3.4% of carbon dioxide emitted to the atmosphere annually. (Source)
- Water Vapor + Clouds account for about 90-95% of the greenhouse effect. (Source) (NASA)
- Global temperature has averaged only 57°F in the last 100 years. (NOAA)
- The warmest year in the United States was 1934. (NASA)
* Anthropogenic (man-made) Global Warming is an unproven Theory.
* There is no "scientific consensus" that global warming will cause catastrophic climate change.
* Science is not determined by "consensus" but by the Scientific Method.
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
Good post...
August 15, 2007 - 22:19 ET by reasonsjesterYou could "tidy" it up a bit by changing "guage" to "gauge." Much props.
"Its good to be da king."
- Your average liberal
Wow! I love that list!
August 15, 2007 - 23:00 ET by Free StinkerWow! I love that list!
May I steal it intact? I promise to use it for good, not for evil. :-)
Fred Thompson and Ann Coulter walk into a bar. The bar is instantly destroyed because that much awesome cannot be contained in one building.
Hey Free, how long did it
August 15, 2007 - 23:15 ET by RESTLESS 1Hey Free, how long did it take you to post your list? If I had tried it, I would have died of old age before I hit preview :>).
Fortunately, it didn't
August 15, 2007 - 23:22 ET by Free StinkerFortunately, it didn't start out so lengthy. Over time, it grew like a bad horror movie monster.
Of course the last update took some 20 minutes to add a mere 6 new entries. It's tiring after a while . . .
Fred Thompson and Ann Coulter walk into a bar. The bar is instantly destroyed because that much awesome cannot be contained in one building.
I had seen it before and was
August 15, 2007 - 23:31 ET by RESTLESS 1I had seen it before and was just wondering. I tip my hat to you sir, there is a lot of great information there.
Feel Free
August 15, 2007 - 23:19 ET by PopularTechThe more information people have the better.
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
PT - Thank You!
August 15, 2007 - 23:54 ET by Free StinkerThank you! I've updated the Global Warming Dissent list. :-)
Yes, the debate is over
August 15, 2007 - 22:45 ET by Jinx McHueYes, the debate is over because global warming kooks like Gore refuse to debate at all.
GW debate
August 15, 2007 - 22:56 ET by pocomocoThat’s right, the debate is over: The Global Warming adherents are morons. 30
Anthropogenic (man-made) Global Warming is an unproven Theory
August 16, 2007 - 11:26 ET by Mike From CanmoreYour statement above is Wrong because
Anthropogenic (man-made) Global Warming is a DISPROVEN Theory.
Cheers
The Debate IS over
August 16, 2007 - 13:04 ET by GMFAnd the skeptics won.
Well, actually it wasn't much of a debate. The coalition of liars and frauds for the advancement of socialism just screamed abuse, tried to silence dissent through their control of the media. They created a "consensus" by excluding any opinion except their own. Typical Stalinist tactics learned from their role models.
Chairman Al with his An Inconvenient Propaganda, and Live Fraud concerts blasted us with cool graphics and trendy heroes. The MSM brainwashed and brainwashed. The message blared endlessly from almost every media outlet. There was no way a bunch of scientists, geeks and people who value truth could win out against the might of the greatest misinformation machine every constructed. Why backed by the worlds leading organization for the promotion of dictatorship and corruption (the UN), a think tank of handpicked supporters (the IPCC) and with the support of Hollywood - how could they fail?
But.
But. Infuriatingly, incomprehensibly, people fought back. They didn't bow down before those who would be our masters. They retained the right to think for themselves. Boy, did that cause rage and disbelief in the MSM. Al nearly burst a blood vessels spewing out his hate and disbelief at the conspiracy! How could they fail? These were the people who shape public opinion who tell the mob what to think...
But, science, damn it is not the whore of ideologues and hypocrites. (For that you need politicians.) And now the skeptics are getting stronger. So you get a backlash. Another rerun of that hit show "The Deniers" followed by another helping of "The Debate is Over".
Maybe it will work this time.
The debate is over. Man-made
August 16, 2007 - 13:19 ET by ckc1227The debate is over. Man-made global warming IS real, in that it was all made up by men.
DING! DING! DING!
August 16, 2007 - 18:47 ET by drillanwrWINNER!!!