Military Incapable of Rendering 'Real' Justice for Jihadists, Maddow Sneers
Rachel Maddow loves to gush of her admiration for Americans who serve in uniform. She also complains how it's borderline criminal that New York City has not held a ticker-tape parade for soldiers who served in Iraq.
It's all posturing, nothing more. Maddow considers the military contemptible, as true-blue leftists always do. (video clip after page break)
On her cringe-a-minute MSNBC show May 4, Maddow questioned how it is be possible that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four other accused 9/11 conspirators will be tried by military tribunal and not in a "real" criminal court --
This weekend there will be arraignments -- again -- for five men accused of masterminding and conspiring to pull off the 9/11 attacks. The most famous of the five defendants is Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who we used to think of as looking like this (photo shown of bleery-eyed, grim-faced Mohammed shortly after his capture) but who now after years of US custody looks more like this (photo shown of Mohammed decidedly furrier and bright-eyed).
This trial was initially going to be held in real criminal court. In November 2009 the US attorney general announced that a federal court in Manhattan would be the venue. But after a political uproar about how awful it would be to try terrorism defendants in real US courts, the administration reversed course. And tomorrow's arraignment will be held instead at Guantanamo. It will not be a real court trial, it will be a military tribunal.
The few terrorism cases that have been pushed through this relatively untested, ad hoc military tribunal system have actually produced results that are more lenient on average than terrorism cases tried in real American courts. But the fear of trying an important terrorism case in a real court in New York is such that tomorrow's proceedings will be held offshore. They'll be held in Cuba. (Where that guy adorning Maddow's favorite T-shirt used to hang out).
This week, by the way, there was a conviction in what law enforcement says was the most serious terrorist plot on US soil since 9/11, a real plot by real al Qaeda-affiliated terrorists (as opposed to that alleged plot on 9/11 involving pseudo-terrorists) to bomb the New York City subway system in 2009.
The conviction was on Tuesday.
In federal district court in Brooklyn.
In New York.
I feel the need to tell you it was on Tuesday because when it happened, nobody really noticed. Life went on in Brooklyn and in New York City and in New York state and in America, totally uninterrupted. Nobody much noticed but justice was served, in a real court.
... Unlike that kangaroo court down at Gitmo to be staged by our stooges in the military.
Did you notice Maddow's fetish with the word "real"? Invoked more than a half-dozen times in a screed lasting two minutes, lest anyone miss getting hammered over the head.
Military tribunals cannot be "real" trials, Maddow insists. They can be unreal, surreal, venereal, you name it -- just not, like, real, man. (Snap fingers to bongo accompaniment).
Maddow felt the need to tell you this, as do I in telling you what she wouldn't share with her credulous viewers anxiously awaiting their talking-points spoon feeding. The suspect convicted for his role in the NYC subway bombing plot was a naturalized citizen, arrested and charged in the US, and entitled to constitutional protections such as the presumption of innocence and trial by jury.
KSM and his woefully misunderstood cohorts, on the other hand -- all foreign nationals captured abroad, after the United States became engaged in a war started by them, as they proclaim whenever the opportunity arises. They are no more entitled to constitutional protections than was Yamamoto, architect of the attack on Pearl Harbor, when Roosevelt had him blown from the sky in 1943.
The only reason these pathetic Islamists are even facing trial is because the Bush administration decided that capturing al Qaeda plotters might be preferable to dispatching them outright, what with the limited intelligence to be gleaned from a corpse. Obama prefers to shoot first and elaborate later, thus avoiding that whole alleged moral quagmire over where to conduct trials for enemy combatants.
What is most amusing about Maddow's earnest anger is how ultimately it wouldn't matter to her where the trials were conducted. Since they'll be held at Gitmo, she bashes the military as incompetent. If the trials were held in the US, she'd bash the prosecution as incompetent. Whatever it takes for MSNBC to remain must-see TV for al Qaeda.
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This is such a losing issue for them
Submitted by tcm14 on Wed, 05/09/2012 - 8:09pm.
I hope she keeps it up.
This really does show how she feels about the military, she is basically telling them "Just shut up and guard the door."
only problem is that the only
Submitted by searcher0 on Thu, 05/10/2012 - 8:16am.
only problem is that the only people who listen to her are zombified Obots.
And Rage's constitutional ignorance continues unabated.
Submitted by drsamherman on Wed, 05/09/2012 - 8:15pm.
The constitution says that congress can create any court to try any case it provides with proper jurisdiction as long as the very short passage establishing the US courts is observed.
The relevant passages are easily understood:
1) The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court,
and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and
establish.
2) In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall
have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and
under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.
In other words, if Congress passes a law and says a body is a properly constituted court and the judges/justices are appropriately confirmed and their jurisdiction is legally defined--it's a REAL court.
Funny how that sheet of paper telling us she has an Oxford doctorate in political science is worth less than an equivalent piece of toilet paper.
well done
Submitted by Barabbus on Wed, 05/09/2012 - 8:41pm.
thanks for that. Your post is the beginning, and final word, on the whole issue.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his four camel-flea infested stooges
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 05/09/2012 - 8:42pm.
...should have been very aggressively shaken down for whatever information they had, then thrown up against a post and shot DRT* just as soon as they were finished being interrogated.
That would be real justice as I define it, which is what this country routinely carried out in WWII.
Maybe that is the reason we haven't won a war since, and may never win one again.
-Dave
*Dead Right There.
Vote for the American in November
How many times has Madcow been Correct in her analysis?
Submitted by djwolf12 on Wed, 05/09/2012 - 8:48pm.
Yesterday, Ed "Wrong Way" Schultz retweeted something totally false about Mitt Romney's campaign adviser straigt from Madcow's blog. About an hour later he said it was "incorrect" and retracted it.
Rachel Madcow: UNINFORMED, DISHONEST, BIASED AND STUNNINGLY STUPID.
Ladies and Gentlemen, Here is Rachel Madcow in her FINEST TV MOMENT ever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jBsYO44jWs
I will NEVER get tired of watching Madcow's facial expressions because it looks like someone just peed in her Cheerios.
For everybody’s sake and especially your own, Maddow, JUST GO
Submitted by needle on Wed, 05/09/2012 - 9:06pm.
Consider the bedeviled letter carrier who gets a gun and shoots up his associates in the post office over some unresolved gripe, or the occasional kid in high school who does this sort of thing – he usually has been bullied until he cannot stand it any longer.
In both case the shooter has gone mad for some reason.
Maddow and the rest of the severe mental cases at MSNBC, especially Keith Olbermann, are every bit as psychotic as the other people that go postal; however, the lunatics working at the MSNBC asylum have NO EXCUSE except for the damnable fact that they feed off of each other’s insatiable hatred for their native land.
The whole satanic network should be committed.
- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.
Military more than capable of "rendering justice" ...
Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 05/09/2012 - 9:17pm.
... to these Shiite heads.
They just aren't allowed to (take them outside, line'em up, and shoot'em, then feed them to the hogs)
Too bad.
Why does she wear...
Submitted by BBallleaper on Wed, 05/09/2012 - 9:20pm.
a low-cut blouse? Trying to show off her chest hair????????????
Oh, wow
Submitted by CO2Maker on Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:02pm.
Somebody wasn't paying attention to what she was saying! < g >
The Network Preferred by Jihadis
Submitted by Wags on Wed, 05/09/2012 - 9:34pm.
It's no wonder Adam Yahiye Gadahn endorsed the network.
Jihadists are at war with
Submitted by rbosque on Wed, 05/09/2012 - 9:40pm.
Jihadists are at war with us...so real justice would be a noose around their necks. Especially since Jihadis don't afford us the same courtesy as a trial.
A large pork sausage down their throats before the hanging would be a plus!
Madcow sneers (and lies, too)!
Submitted by djwolf12 on Wed, 05/09/2012 - 10:31pm.
Has Madcow ever served in the Military? Yeah, I thought so. She is 200% correct about everything that goes on in the military because she was in attendence of every meeting with our Generals!
Madcow knows all!
Military Incapable Of Rendering "Real" Justice To Jihadis??
Submitted by Samaritan01 on Wed, 05/09/2012 - 10:44pm.
Why, they have a pistol don't they?
Maddow, is safe becuase she
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:57pm.
Maddow, is safe becuase she knows no muslim , however desperate will ever rape her.
As with the entire MSNBC crew...
Submitted by Bill Brasky on Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:49am.
Maddow is a worthless pile of dogsh_t.
no likee
Submitted by Jerry Frey on Thu, 05/10/2012 - 1:20am.
Rachel Maddow is educated trash.
Madcow disease
Submitted by OldmanRick on Thu, 05/10/2012 - 6:10am.
Surely two symptoms of this dreaded disease is constipation of the brain and diarrhea of the mouth. Both of which are quite evident when Rachel opens mouth.
Randy Madcow, a REAL Confused Lesbian
Submitted by Motormouth KOS on Thu, 05/10/2012 - 7:23am.
Dear Randy,
Your faux outrage is amusing. You opposed every measure that Bush put in place to capture and interrogate these terrorists.
Now you want to chirp about what didn't happen 6 years later?
In 2009, your boy, Barry Blunder was King. So if you're pissed off because KSM didn't get to come to NYC and use the media to further his cause, blame the Clown-in-Chief, biotch.
You are the dyke equivalent of Barry Obysmal... an after-the-fact tough guy who opposed every measure to commence a war on terrorism.
Go F yourself, since nobody else will.
The Obamination... A crisis leading to a catastrophe..(please donate to MRC)
Holy Crap she is such a LIAR!!!!
Submitted by Nemesisesq on Thu, 05/10/2012 - 7:50am.
That terror case tried in brooklyn federal court was the thoguht to be the easiest case against a terrorist and the defendant skated on all but one charge. HE WAS CONVICTED OF ONLY ONE CHARGE OUT OF MORE THAN 30!!!! She can't even be taken out of context she's lying because of the context she set up herself!!!
That these murdering low-life
Submitted by RealVet on Thu, 05/10/2012 - 8:00am.
That these murdering low-life maggots are still alive and living at the expense of U.S. taxpayers is a travesty. They all need to have a pork chop inserted in their ass, then hung. As for that harpee Maddow, she's irrelevant.
Don't worry
Submitted by chiefpayne on Thu, 05/10/2012 - 1:44pm.
Those in the military KNOW who REALLY support them and who do not.
Rachel, they KNOW you don't support them and most just laugh at you anyway.