D'oh! Dem Congressman Undermines Ed Schultz's Claim That Postal Service Receives No Subsidy
How can you tell when Ed Schultz doesn't know what he's talking about? When Schultz boasts, "I know what the hell I'm talking about."
Most recent example -- Schultz's bloviations about the postal service on his radio show Tuesday (audio) --
Couple of things that we need to make sure that everybody understands. No tax dollars, your tax dollars, do not go to the postal service. That's right. There's not a line item budget in the federal budget that says that we're spending $10 billion on the postal service. That doesn't exist. We don't spend ten cents on the postal service. So in other words, all those taxes that you are paying today ... none of that money goes to the postal service. The Treasury doesn't fork a dime over to run the postal service. It's stamps, that's right, and anything else that you have to purchase when it comes to moving the commodity which is the mail. That's what pays for everything.
Sorry to dampen your huff-and-puff bluster, Ed, but the postal service does receive funding from the federal government. And while it's not $10 billion, it's substantially more than 10 cents -- closer to $100 million annually -- to provide free mail services for the blind and overseas voters.
Even though it represents less than one percent of its annual budget, this is hardly the only way the agency benefits from government policy. Boston Globe columnist Jeff Jacoby elaborates --
The Internet Age may be wreaking havoc with the post office and its mail-delivery business, but what industry in America isn't going through the same wrenching experience? And not many institutions enjoy the benefits that federal law confers on the Postal Service: It pays no income or property taxes, it's exempt from vehicle licensing requirements and parking fines, and it has the power of eminent domain. Most significant of all, it has a legal monopoly on the delivery of mail: The federal Private Express statutes make it a crime for any private carrier to deliver letters. The only exemption is for "extremely urgent" letters, and even those may be delivered by a private company only if it's willing to charge a much higher rate than the Postal Service would have charged.
In the 1960s, 83 percent of the agency's budget went to wages and benefits, Jacoby writes. As of 2011, despite billions of dollars spent on automation over the decades, that percentage dropped -- to 80 percent. This compared to 53 percent for UPS and 32 percent at FedEx, according to the New York Times.
"Only in a government-sheltered monopoly like the Postal Service would labor costs remains as bloated as they have, year in and year out," Jacoby writes.
But once Schultz settles on a perceived truth, nothing will shake his belief in its veracity. Here he refers to the postmaster general's proposal for massive layoffs, facility closings and reductions in services to avoid bankruptcy (audio) --
The postal service is going to hurt a lot of small businesses that are going to have a ripple effect and a domino effect and a lot of small businesses are going to have to let people go because of this! Just take my word for it. I know what the hell I'm talking about.
Unfortunately for Schultz, one of his upcoming guests, congressman Peter Welch, Democrat of Vermont, wasn't aware of Schultz's omniscience on all matters postal (audio) --
SCHULTZ: What's happening with the postal service? Why are they doing this? I mean, I know why they're doing it, but ...
WELCH: There's a, it's ideological. In other words, what they constantly do is say, hey, why don't they run it like a business and they point to FedEx or they point to UPS, forgetting the fact that the postal service has to deliver everywhere. Rural areas like Vermont, you know, we get our mail out on these back country roads. I live on a dirt road that's eight miles long. Postal service gets up there. That's not a great profitable route for UPS or FedEx.
So, there's always been some subsidy for the postal service. The postal service has always had to make some adjustments. It used to be pony express and then we had the telegraph and they had to make adjustments. And obviously with the Internet, we have to make adjustments now. But there's an ideological view that you could outsource this, privatize it, but basically that would mean that you'd be denying service, especially to rural America.
SCHULTZ (ducking Welch's awkward observation that there's "always" been "some subsidy" for postal service): Yeah. Well, I think that the Senate, where they won't maybe well intended (huh ...?) are headed in the wrong direction.
Schultz also claims that a 2006 law forced the postal service to pre-fund its pension costs for 75 years within the following decade, to the tune of $5.5 billion annually. Almost always accompanying the claim is Schultz's insistence that it was Republicans who rammed the bill through a lame-duck Congress, followed by President Bush signing off on the legislation only weeks before Democrats gained control of the House in January 2007.
As can be seen in the legislative history of the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act (PAEA), the law was sponsored by GOP Rep. Thomas Davis of Virginia -- and co-sponsored by Rep. Lanny Davis, D-Ill., Rep. John McHugh, R-N.Y., and Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif.
Schultz once again demonstrating that he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
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Couple of things that we need to make sure that everybody understands. No tax dollars, your tax dollars, do not go to the postal service. That's right. There's not a line item budget in the federal budget that says that we're spending $10 billion on the postal service. That doesn't exist. We don't spend ten cents on the postal service. So in other words, all those taxes that you are paying today ... none of that money goes to the postal service. The Treasury doesn't fork a dime over to run the postal service. It's stamps, that's right, and anything else that you have to purchase when it comes to moving the commodity which is the mail. That's what pays for everything.









Comments
Were Beckel and Schultz ...
Submitted by Newsbubba on Thu, 04/19/2012 - 11:02am.
... separated at birth?
They are sooooooo alike!! Dumb and dumber.
Hey Jack
Submitted by jayhuf on Thu, 04/19/2012 - 11:25am.
"How can you tell when Ed Schultz doesn't know what he's talking about?"
I thought it was when his lips were moving!
Actually
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 04/19/2012 - 11:48am.
The post office does not deliver mail everywhere, hence PO boxes. As far as I know, FED EX and UPS go where ever the Postal service goes. And they dont have PO boxes
Good points
Submitted by Galvanic on Thu, 04/19/2012 - 2:39pm.
Then we have Sen. Reid's explanation this week that we need to keep the isolated post offices open because elderly people look forward to receiving junk mail.
The Elderly and Junk Mail!!!!
Submitted by Callie369 on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 7:06am.
At 71 I guess I qualify as one of the elderly. All my bills come via the internet and all are paid via the internet! My correspondence with family and friends is done on the internet.
I NEVER read any of the junk mail, but put it in the trash. I get enough of it to fill a 30 gallon trash bag about every 10 days.
The people who send out junk mail should have to pay the same rate as anyone else (pays for a letter)! Perhaps that would decrease the tons of garbage we get every day of the week, including Saturday! Those tons require thousands of extra workers who in turn must be paid, furnished benefits and retirement. By requiring advertisers to pay full price for their trash, it would definitely be decreased.
Attrition would take care of a lot of the workers. Dropping mail delivery to Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays would save tremendously. No one, including businesses) needs 6 day a week delivery!
Sen, Reid is full of c rap!!!!
Ed must have seen....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Thu, 04/19/2012 - 11:46am.
the USPS commercial making the same claim - "The USPS receives no U.S. taxpayer dollars".
How can you tell when Ed Schultz doesn't know what he's talking?
Submitted by Cappmann1962 on Thu, 04/19/2012 - 12:16pm.
Easy - his mouth is open. If he isn't trashing EVERYONE that disagrees with him, calling others vile names, or outright lying therough his green teeth - he bloviating.
He must've gotten funding from the postal union to spew such obvious BS. Didn't anyone see the disclaimer at the beginning of his tirade?
Huh?
Submitted by CobraMan on Thu, 04/19/2012 - 12:33pm.
"But there's an ideological view that you could outsource this, privatize it, but basically that would mean that you'd be denying service, especially to rural America."
Oh, please, like UPS and FedEx refuses to deliver to rural areas! These companies will deliver anywhere, as long as someone pays for it.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
convenient way they define things
Submitted by agingcynic on Thu, 04/19/2012 - 12:35pm.
don't those who commit crimes involving the mail get arrested by federal postal inspectors? Aren't those who assault the mailman charged with assaulting a federal employee? Seems like they want to have it both ways.
Ed the Ignorante
Submitted by mmilesll on Thu, 04/19/2012 - 12:50pm.
This ass gives new meaning to stupid. He should just do his show from a bar because he always either sounds drunk or is drunk. Another great show from MSNBC.
To answer the original
Submitted by John21 on Thu, 04/19/2012 - 1:28pm.
To answer the original question,
"You can tell when Special Ed has no clue about what he is say because his lips will be moving." He has not said an informed intelligent thing in at least a year. The amount of information that "Ed" fails to comprehend would overload the governments supercomputers.
You know that warehouse
Submitted by HockeyKid on Thu, 04/19/2012 - 2:12pm.
at the end of "Raiders of the Lost Ark"? The sign over the door reads "Stuff Ed Schultz Has No Clue About"...
..."Bldg 1 of 244"
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me