Police Can't 'Deal With Peace,' Occupy Wall St.'s Ex-Marine Drama Queen Tells Ed Schultz
Perhaps you've seen it, the video of former Marine Corps sergeant Shamar Thomas accusing New York City police of brutality against Occupy Wall Street protesters.
Since the footage was posted Oct. 16 on YouTube, left-wing media have embraced Thomas as their one of their own, showering him with attention while avoiding potentially awkward questions about his background, such as Thomas's claim that his mother fought in Iraq and his father was deployed to Afghanistan. (video and audio clips after page break)
Thomas appeared on Ed Schultz's radio show Thursday and talked about the clash between Occupy protesters and Oakland police the night before (audio) --
SCHULTZ: What do you make of what unfolded in Oakland?
THOMAS: Well, what I make of what unfolded in Oakland, it looked like a war zone on our own territory. And what really got me to come out was an Iraqi veteran named Scott Olsen was shot by police and is in critical condition right now. And this is, you know, something that I just spoke out against and, you know, it made me feel that we need, we have to do more and more veterans need to come up and help protect these people.
SCHULTZ: Well, what do you think, you think the law enforcement has been heavy-handed throughout all of this? It would seem to me that these protesters, and I have been there as well, they're well intended. They're not going there to be violent.
Except when they were "on the verge of a riot" during a broadcast of "The Ed Show" in Zuccotti Park earlier this month, according to Schultz's producer James Holm. (audio) More from Schultz on the alleged abiding pacificism of the flea party faithful --
SCHULTZ: And they're going there on a mission to be seen, to be heard, and to get the attention of people who can make a difference. And non-violent has to be the theme here. But how do you think that's been received by law enforcement? Do you think there's been a heavy-handed move by law enforcement?
THOMAS: Well, initially, you know, I had the idea that, you know, it's just a few, few, you know, bad police officers out of the crowd who don't know how to control themselves in these situations because a lot of police officers aren't necessarily, you know, trained to deal with peace. They're trained to deal with, you know, actual riots that are not peaceful.
Not trained to deal with "peace" -- also known by police as having a slow day.
Yet another deceitful euphemism from the left -- "peace" when what is meant is civil disobedience on a mass scale, with plenty of actual illegality -- indefinite seizure of public property so that no one else can use it -- tossed in for good measure.
"Peace" as in baiting police to provoke a forceful response, the only way the Occupy protests end with the protesters saving face, as they are painfully aware.
Appearing on "The Rosie Show," Thomas claimed he saw examples of police brutality on Oct. 5. Ten days later, Thomas showed up for a large Occupy protest in Times Square, accompanied by his aunt who recorded the video of him confronting police.
In the video, Thomas berates police for several minutes, becoming increasingly angry, bellicose and unhinged by their non-violent response to his outburst. What is obvious from the video is that, at least during this moment in the protests, it's not police who are unable to handle "peace" as exemplified by Thomas, it's him.
Odd indeed how Thomas claims to have witnessed police brutality on Oct. 5, yet when he went to Times Square on Oct. 15 with his aunt bringing along her camera phone, neither of them took the trouble to record evidence of these alleged public crimes.
I find it hard to believe that any former Marine and combat veteran acting in good faith and seeing actual examples of police brutality would not have the courage and presence of mind to confront those involved and demand their names and badge numbers. If Thomas has done this, he's also done a good job at keeping it secret.
When he appeared on Keith Olbermann's show, Thomas said "my goal in life is to inspire a generation." When that is a person's lofty aim, documenting evidence of the brutality he alleges is conveniently left to lesser mortals.
His conversation with Rosie O'Donnell reeked of dishonest left-wing discourse. "You reminded me of Martin Luther King, I have to tell you," O'Donnell told Thomas. "Oh yes, I've heard that a few times," Thomas responded, quickly adding, "That's an honor."
"You had such a profound sense of dignity," O'Donnell continued, of Thomas's profoundly undignified rant, "and what you were saying was so universally true, that even the police officers, who are just working-class people doing their jobs, right? ..."
To which Thomas responded, "exactly" -- which makes it all the more inexplicable that Thomas had bellowed at police, "How do you sleep at night doing this to people?! ... If you want to go kill and hurt people, go to Iraq!"
O'Donnell, having described NYC police as "just working-class people doing their jobs," proceeded to show how she didn't mean a word of it, saying "they've been told to go down there and to, you know ..." -- wiggling her fingers to signify quote marks -- "... maintain the peace ..." In other words, the police aren't there to "maintain the peace," wink wink, but let's have it both ways, shall we?
My favorite part of the conversation came next, when O'Donnell said of police, "But they are sometimes meeting violence, right?" Thomas -- "No, they're not meeting violence." O'Donnell quickly corrected herself, but the damage was done -- "The police are perpetrating, I'm sorry, violence, in an effort to control the crowd."
So much for them as working-class heroes just doing their jobs.
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I will let BKeyser
Submitted by Prisondog1776 on Sat, 10/29/2011 - 9:42pm.
comment on this one. Ex-Army here but i do think as the Marines say there are no ex-Marines. And he seems to be the 5% fringe element.
Oh, there are some
Submitted by Rowane on Sat, 10/29/2011 - 11:50pm.
Oh, there are some ex-Marines...those the Marine corps revile. They seem to be getting more prevalent these days.
Just like the neighborhood boy who went AWOL from the Army after spending 4 years in while telling everyone he was discharged...Guarantee you the Army is ashamed of him and I actually thought he was telling the truth. Creep is "processing out" now in CO, I thought they prosecuted deserters in time of war.
Can't stand people like this...we all have to remember that there are a lot more nimrods wearing uniforms today than before.
I'll always give the benefit of the doubt to a serviceman, but when their actions show them without honor, as this guy's have done...the Constitution calls for harsh punishment.
You've got to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything. (Aaron Tippin)
Hey, Rowane, I met one like that, back in about 1987.
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 1:43am.
I stopped him for a traffic violation, burnt out tail lights. He handed me a military ID card, and an expired driver's license. Then told me he was home on leave, during transfer from one duty station to another.
You would have loved the look on his face when I asked him for his orders, "Um, uh, um, what'chyou mean, orders"? When I explained that you had to have orders for leave, during transfer, his face got pale(kinda hard for a black guy), and he began babbling about being assigned to the ASA, and he couldn't show me his orders, because they were considered "Top Secret". Long story short, the MP's from Selfridge ANG, were enroute as soon as I confirmed that he was a deserter. He ended up being court-martialed and given a DD.
Former Marine
Submitted by smith523 on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 11:17am.
I have a hard time believing this guy's story about being a "former" marine. What did he get discharged from the Marine Corps for? I bet that will answer a lot especially if it says "Other Than Honorable"
Semper Fidelis
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 2:34pm.
Semper Fidelis distinguishes the Marine Corps bond from any other. It goes beyond teamwork – it is a brotherhood and lasts for life.
You are correct Sir.
Once a Marine, always a Marine.
If they are not trained to deal with peace.....
Submitted by NeoKong on Sat, 10/29/2011 - 10:27pm.
Then why are they called peace officers.....?
Everybody has a right to be a jerk but this guy is abusing the privilege.
Once again Rush Limbaugh
Submitted by Reaver on Sat, 10/29/2011 - 10:52pm.
Once again Rush Limbaugh proves how well he knows liberals, squatting in parks waving signs and yelling chants has gotten old. In order to keep this going the movement wants blood in the streets but they must be seen as the victims. The groundwork is being laid with all these charges of police brutality now all they need is a dead body, the movement demands a martyr.
Just out of curiosity, has Rush
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/29/2011 - 11:07pm.
ever been wrong about anything during the course of his quarter-century broadcast career?
Jer
Jer, can you factually dispute what was posted?
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 1:44am.
.
UpNorth...You mean factually dispute Rush's opinion
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 2:07am.
about what he believes are the future objectives of the OWS crowd.?
No, I believe that Rush believes it. And it may or may not turn out that subsequent events will prove him correct.
I had read a flurry of comments here and elsewhere recently beginning with some form of "Rush is right again, etc.", so my question was simply a tongue-in-cheek reference to that.
Jer
Hmm...that's a good question.
Submitted by WhoIsJohnGalt on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 10:52am.
I thought he was wrong once, but I was mistaken. I'll have to think on it for a while.
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Take your time WIJG...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 2:27pm.
This could be an important step in breaking free from the grip of Limbaugh Infallibilitis. ;-)
Jer
Dude
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 2:51pm.
Uncle Jer: ...has Rush ever been wrong about anything during the course of his quarter-century broadcast career?
Mr. Limbaugh on Mr. Limbaugh's show tells everyone listening to Mr. Limbuagh's show that Mr. Limbaugh, referring to the Mr. Limbaugh of Mr. Limbaugh show not his brother, where was I, oh, Mr. Limbaugh says that Mr. Limbaugh is correct 99% of the time.
So the question is unfair, mishandled, and should be withdrawn from public content as it would indicate Mr. Limbaugh himself admits he has been wrong 91.25 days out of the 9125 he has been broadcasting.
Rush: and I have to be true to my new accuracy opinion rating, 99%....
Even his hardcore pound on him till he drops critics says so ---
And he does this regularly, declaring his accuracy ratings to be above 99% on almost a weekly basis.
For almost his entire career as a talk show host, Limbaugh has claimed to have a highly specific measure of his accuracy, declaring in 1992 that he is right "97.9 per cent of the time."
This leads me to ask the follow on question for Uncle Jer -- Do you really listen to his show as you regularly claim? Otherwise, you would have known the pickle your question put you in.
To anwswer your closing query, Vet dude...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 3:42pm.
I believe my claim has consistently been that during the 90's, I was a frequent--if not regular--listener. I no longer am. However, I still tune in occasionally and also read the transcripts on his website from time to time and view video excerpts, etc.
My "tongue in cheek" question was intended to address the view of his loyal fans rather than Rush and his humble admission of only being correct 99% of the time. [They might say, "see how modest Rush is? Although NEVER wrong, he graciously claims only a 99% accuracy rate."] ;-)
Uncle Jer
Dang it.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 3:53pm.
Will you hold up a big sign or suntin to warn us when you got tongue in cheek stuff.
You mean, Vet...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 6:22pm.
something like this:
I had read a flurry of comments here and elsewhere recently beginning with some form of "Rush is right again, etc.", so my question was simply a tongue-in-cheek reference to that.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2011/10/29/police-cant-deal-pe...
Okay, that was in my second post. I'll try to put rhetorical aids in the initial comment from now on. :-) ;-)
U J
That was not on my computer.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 6:34pm.
I did not miss it. It was not on my computer. Hey, I'll take a lie detector test. I will mister. In fact, your link is broken. It is still not on my computer so I could not read that you wrote that a full 12 hours before my... What? What do you mean "How can I know it was 12 hours before..." I said it was not on my... All right. Come on. IT'S ON!!!!@@!! It is on mister. I will kick your.... What? So, it is the only thing within grasping range. (squeak squeak) So what, it is a dog squeaky toy. (squeak squeak) I will shove the squeaker down your throat and laugh while you squeak to death.
Truth be told, I was hoping
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 6:53pm.
for a slightly more dignified demise.
Uncle
First of all
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 10/29/2011 - 11:10pm.
until he offers more than a BDU with ribbons, I'm not buying his USMC credentials. He's wearing ribbons but no chevrons? In the video of him in NYC it sounded like he said "I've been to Iraq 14 times!" Really? 14 deployments?
Something about Marines- we might quietly bitch and moan about the daily grind of all things military, but when we separate, we're damned proud of our service. It's the pride in our Corps that is instilled during the days before we're even able to wear the EGA that lasts forever - and is why we say there are no ex-Marines, only former-Marines. UNLESS, we separated other than honorably, or our tour was less than successful. These are the guys who rarely admit to serving, or speak out against the Corps- like that Olsen pothead in Oakland. ($20 says he failed his last PFT.) These are the guys the rest of us don't claim.
Now this guy. He strikes me as paid activist. Maybe he served, maybe not. But if he did, he put on some poundage since separating because that blouse is way too small. And a Marine would never (did I mention "never"?), never, wear his ribbons on his camies.
On Olbermann's show? Where? NYC? (By the way Olbermann, you ass, it's not "U.S. Marine Corp." It's not a corporation. Idiot.) Then on Rosie's show? In Chicago, right? He's jetting around the country to appear on lefty talk shows? I guess this wannabe Marine has a good agent. He sure doesn't talk like a jarhead. He talks like an activist making wild and unsubstantiated claims of police beating women and teenagers. He's oddly... flamboyant.
So here's my take (as if it matters): If he served, he didn't serve well and may have been discharged under DADT. He definitely doesn't carry the bearing of a Marine Sgt. He obviously has little if any integrity given his propensity for exagerating the truth. He displays nearly nothing he would have garnered as a Marine NCO. I want to see his DD214. I think he's a fraud. And drawing a check from Rebuild the Dream.
Ty Bkeyser
Submitted by Prisondog1776 on Sat, 10/29/2011 - 11:15pm.
i knew you would have some clarity on the matter. That is why i deferred. :)
Marine Pride
Submitted by Alpha Tango on Sat, 10/29/2011 - 11:29pm.
Well said bkeyser.
The first thing I thought when I heard that there were marines at the occupy protests, I didn't believe it. I guess there are scumbags in all walks of life. I'll bet there are no active duty marines there. I suspect they could be booted out for protesting in public about anything. Shamar Thomas is a disgrace.
I never served but I praise and support you guys and gals who have. Thank you.
Thanks for that
Submitted by Calypso Jones on Sat, 10/29/2011 - 11:33pm.
I had some questions about his behavior, his remarks and his costume. The truth will come out.
Perfect
Submitted by Unsane on Sat, 10/29/2011 - 11:36pm.
This here "flyboy" has nothing to add. :o)
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Great minds think alike.
Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 1:17am.
I was thinking the same thing. Unfortunately, I posted my comment before I read yours. Seeing that fool disrespect the uniform like that upset me greatly.
By the way, do you know what else his BDU's are missing? The Flag. I haven't served in almost 25 years, yet all of my BDU's still have the Flag sew on. (In my day, we only had one flag patch. On the left shoulder. Now their on both.)
He's also missing his Unit Insignia. I never, once, met a member of the military who didn't have their unit insignia displayed on their uniform, even long after they were discharged. I wonder of this guy even know was a "unit insignia" is?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Marines don't have unit insignia on their Class A or . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 11:47pm.
. . . or cammie uniforms.
But the real test for Mr. Thomas is to produce his DD-214. Anyone appearing on television who claims to be a US veteran ought to be asked to produce a DD-214. If time permits, a FOIA check should also be run to confirm the individuals period of service.
bkeyser has it right here.
Submitted by rwesley2.0 on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 9:24am.
bkeyser has it right here. Not only do Marines not wear ribbons on their cammies, they never wear cammies off base. That is a major disregard of Marine Corps uniform regulations for both active and veteran Marines. He is also wearing his rank insignia above the ribbons, which must be some new OWS way of displaying rank. Those insignias are supposed to be on both collars, not on the chest.
well said, BK
Submitted by jon_torlin on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 10:13am.
I only needed a few seconds, no sound, to see that this guy was a fraud. If he was a marine, he disrespects it, if he wasn't, he still disrespects it.
-Jon
One more thing...
Submitted by Unsane on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 12:30pm.
One more thing - I don't know about Navy/Marine regs, but when I was a voting officer (one who assists with absentee ballots) Active Duty in the AF, I familiarized myself with the regs pertaining to political activities and Air Force personnel. According to them, you cannot participate in a political rally like OWS (or any others) when in uniform.
Considering the long-standing tradition in this country of keeping the military separate from civilian politics as much as possible, I'd imagine that the same rule applies to the Army, the Navy, the Marine Corps, and the Coast Guard.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Another brainwashed for liberalsim black man
Submitted by Alpha Tango on Sat, 10/29/2011 - 11:21pm.
Herman Cain is right and Shamar Thomas is another black man brainwashed to hate America.
Liberals, especially young liberals, have been taught that is right to use violence to get their way or to just get attention. They have been taught to hate everyone and everything that doesn't support the liberal agenda. The OWS crowd has learned it well.
President Obama supports this man and this mindless protesting. He is one of them.
Notice
Submitted by grammajane on Sat, 10/29/2011 - 11:30pm.
how he appeared on three of the lowest rated shows to ever hit the networks. Wonder how his commanding officer is going to deal with this loud mouth
Bkeyser my aplogies
Submitted by Prisondog1776 on Sat, 10/29/2011 - 11:55pm.
I did not intend to turn this into your thread and fight. Sorry if i have done so.
no worries dog
Submitted by bkeyser on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 1:43am.
I don't think this is my thread any more than it is anyone elses. I've got a reasonably strong opinion due to the nature of it, but I'm by no means the definitive source for answers. I appreciate your asking for my opinion.
But just to clarify, Marines have earned the stellar reputation largely due to the ability to weed out guys like this one. Recruiters are awfully good but sometimes a man unworthy of the title manages to slip by. Other times they simply can't handle the stresses of active duty and go soft at a later date, often coinciding with a deployment. In any case, this guy, were he a Marine, has dishonored himself by his actions. He's no devildog. The Corps shed this one.
Why is he in uniform?
Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 12:58am.
Why is this guy in uniform ? And why isn't he wearing that uniform properly? He's supposed to be a Marine. If he's going to wear that uniform, he better wear it properly!
Trooper! Button that blouse! Display your rank properly! Sew on your patches! Take off those ribbons, those aren't you Class A's! Where's you cover? Wear that uniform Proudly or don't wear it at all! When you don that uniform you represent America! Once a Marine, always a Marine, remember?
For Christ's sake, even an ex Army Rotorhead like myself knows better than to disrespect the Uniform, the Corps, like that. He's a blanket party just waiting to happen.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
I'm a civilian, and the way
Submitted by poseA on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 1:34am.
I'm a civilian, and the way he was wearing his uniform seemed peculiar to me too.
This guy is an embarrassment to the Marines.
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 8:18am.
He is just wearing a camo shirt, hanging open over his T-shirt, with what looks like regular civilian khaki pants. No servicemember would disrespect himself or his uniform that way. But what do I know? I'm just an AF wife of 20 years, with an Army son (82nd Airborne).
Good evening MB
Submitted by cocodrie on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 1:40pm.
Tell your husband and your son we love 'em. I pray that in another year we can give them a CIC worth more than a dead skunk.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
He is not supposed to be.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 3:51pm.
HEAD-
Sec. 771. Unauthorized wearing prohibited
-STATUTE-
Except as otherwise provided by law, no person except a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, as the case may be, may wear -
(1) the uniform, or a distinctive part of the uniform, of the
Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps; or
(2) a uniform any part of which is similar to a distinctive part of the uniform of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps.
Section 772 lists exceptions. And he don't come under any of them.
I found it.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 4:04pm.
The other exception is retired military. They are allowed to wear the uniform on certain occasion. And protests ain't one of those either. They are covered under the military regs as opposed to U.S. Code above.
The Navy Uniform Regulations prescribe the wear of the Navy uniform by Navy retirees and veterans.
Retired personnel may wear uniforms at ceremonies or official functions when the dignity of the occasion and good taste dictate. Wearing a uniform is appropriate for memorial services, weddings, funerals, balls, patriotic or military parades, ceremonies in which any active or reserve United States military unit is participating, and meetings or functions of military associations.
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Retired personnel are prohibited from wearing the uniform in connection with personal enterprises, business activities, or while attending or participating in any demonstration, assembly or activity for the purpose of furthering personal or partisan views on political, social, economic, or religious issues.
So even I, as retired military am not allowed to wear the uniform at a protest. This guy in no way evah is authorized to wear the uniform or identifying parts of the uniform.
Um, few Marines wear a unit patch.
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 1:54am.
Other than that, I totally agree with what's been said about this alleged Marine. He's a poster child for what not to do, after you get out.
I do believe that I read that Shamar's time in Iraq was spent as a clerk, or supply specialist. Not to denigrate his service in that capacity, but he isn't all that he thinks he is. Or all that the occuturds think he is.
"my goal in life is to inspire a generation." Translated, my goal for the next few weeks is to get as much free travel and free $--t as I can,before, much like Al Sharpton, my fame disappears, and I hain't got nothin.
Hey hey...
Submitted by sentry_99 on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 1:57am.
Slow your roll buddy. The Steel Don't Fly Without Supply.....remember that. ;)
Man, there goes that joke!
Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 1:33pm.
I was going to say something about supply always being "in the rear with the gear," but, since the repeal of DADT, I don't think that joke is appropriate anymore.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
You forgot the last part
Submitted by sentry_99 on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 1:37pm.
Its..."In the rear, with the gear, drinking beer."
Well, aren't they in the
Submitted by amyshulk on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 2:25am.
Well, aren't they in the process of *not* making it a crime to impersonate a military member?
Ronald Reagan
All I see is a guy muggin for some cameras.
Submitted by kata on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 2:30am.
and a bunch of cops with "wtf...?" looks on their faces.
And now he's a liberal commodity. Thank you for your service and I am glad you came back safe and alive. Now look into the cameras, smile and realize that most of these people wouldn't have given two ***** about you had you not served their political purposes. Just ask Ms. Sheehan.
Getting desperate
Submitted by TerryWest on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 2:56am.
The majority of the public just aren't buying into the cries of police brutality because they see truth.
So Abra Kadabra, out pops this guy from the prop trunk in order to manipulate public opinion.
There is a lot of gang
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 4:04am.
There is a lot of gang activity in all the branches of the service and unfortunately the military does little to root it out because they need warm bodies. The standards have been lowered, I work with it everyday. Not everyone who enlists is Audie Murphy or Sgt. York.
I know this will shock many here and I will be called a racist but the fact remains most combat units are made up of whites and hispanics while blacks make up the REMF. Sorry but it is the truth. Don't believe me do some research.
Face Palm
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 3:37pm.
Wrong dude. The military has not lowered the standards. They are turning away the unqualified in droves.
MIAMI - Nearly one-fourth of the students who try to join the military fail its entrance exam, painting a grim picture of an education system that produces graduates who can't answer basic math, science and reading questions.
The report by The Education Trust found that 23 percent of recent high school graduates don't get the minimum score needed on the enlistment test to join any branch of the military. The study, released exclusively to The Associated Press on Tuesday, comes on top of Pentagon data that shows 75 percent of those aged 17 to 24 don't qualify for the military because they are physically unfit, have a criminal record or didn't graduate high school.
"Too many of our high school students are not graduating ready to begin college or a career - and many are not eligible to serve in our armed forces," U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan told the AP. "I am deeply troubled by the national security burden created by America's underperforming education system."
Dude, there are easier ways to say something without looking like a racist. Here is an example --
As recently as the 1980s, African Americans were over-represented in units like the 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions—among the first units to deploy in wartime. But by 1990, blacks were no longer going disproportionately into combat units.37 They are now under-represented in combat arms, electronic repair, and electrical and mechanical crafts occupations. By contrast, they are disproportionately serving in functional support, administrative, service, and supply specialties. Although combat occupations may be valued in making a military career, experience in support specialties is highly transferable to the civilian labor market. A recent study found that black men in support occupations had a hiring advantage over civilians, whereas those with combat experience had minimal success applying for civilian
Many cops are "trained in peace"
Submitted by gopcongress on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 5:35am.
Many officers are used to "dealiing with peace." After all, many of them were present for Tea Party events. The only work they got was in removing the Kos instigators and the SIUI thugs. In fact, most were dealt with privately by other Tea Party goers, and no need for the cops were needed in most instances.
"The news and truth are not the same thing." -Walter Lippmann (1889-1974) FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER
I'm sure this guy does sees
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 8:28am.
I'm sure this guy does sees no irony in the fact that he is standing there screaming at 30 cops for supposedly attacking "peaceful" protesters and they are all standing there quietly, letting him do it.
Ahhh
Submitted by rockyracoon on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 8:56am.
I love the irony as well.
Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.
Here's some of that "peace" and Lawrence O'Donnell
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 9:15am.
Here's some of that "peace" and Lawrence O'Donnel learns that, when you're trying to push your point of view,
you should never ask a question you don't already know the answer to.
Oh my, I'm honored.
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 10:31am.
I think I was one of the first to coin the term occutard/occuturd, over at This Ain't Hell a few days back. Now, I see one of the posters at verumserum use it. Warms my heart.
Why is Scott Olsen not passing the smell test?
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 2:58pm.
Sorry, but I ain't buying it. A can of tear gas gave a guy a cracked head? Bull, Police have been firing teargas cans into crowds for as long as I have been alive. Never ever heard of one cracking open a guy's head. Has never happened. I don't believe it happened here.
Here is what I think happened. This guy got a lungful of tear gas and panicked. He started running and tripped on something, falling and cracking open his head on the pavement. Or someone else panicked and ran into the guy, knocking him over and cracking open his head.
Nope, not sold that getting beaned in the brainpan by a canister of teargas can put you in the hospital with a cracked open noggin.
Vet
Submitted by bkeyser on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 3:07pm.
He doesn't.
Vet, I've watched the video of his alleged injury over and over.
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 8:59pm.
No where does it show him getting a CS canister in the bean. Canisters are thrown, and they don't move fast, so you can see one or two in the video. CS projectiles are fired from the weapon of choice for deploying them. Most, as in the beginning of the video, fly up, detonate and separate in the air, and fall to the ground.
However, rocks, bottles and ball bearings launched from slingshots do not easily lend themselves to observation, either in a video tape, digital recording, or seen by the eye in person, especially in the dark.
It's been my contention all along that Olsen took either a rock, bottle or something like a ball bearing in the brain bucket, from his own side, and they and some in the media saw a chance to lay it at the feet of the cops, so they ran with it. Anyway, if a video now surfaces of Olsen and his "injury", it has to be suspect, it would take them this long to manufacture a "genuine" video.
Thank you sir.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 10/31/2011 - 9:35am.
I like that theory as well. Much more plausible than the the idea the guy got critically injured by a cs canister striking his skullpan. And as usual, it will be us saying this. Won't hear it in the MSM until there is actual evidence they can't ignore.
thats happened before in the Bay Area too
Submitted by UndercoverConse... on Wed, 11/02/2011 - 9:10pm.
a couple of years ago, at a "peace" protest, the liberal daughter of a lawyer got a lot of press for being hit in the eye "with a rubber bullet". Lots of hype, Daddy started lawsuits, Huffpo had a field day...
except then a video taken by someone near her in the crowd. It showed the impact was from a bottle...and the bottle was thrown by her boyfriend.
Suddenly, the lawsuits stopped and the arse kissing media went silent. no retractions of course.
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Submitted by Mike009 on Sun, 10/30/2011 - 5:48pm.
The late Congressman Jack Murtha (D-Pennsylvania) demonstrated how you can can serve your country honorably as a decorated Marine war hero - and be a complete jackass. Same with Shamar Thomas.
Sorry Vet, I stand by what I
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:57am.
Sorry Vet,
I stand by what I said, I spent 30 years in combat units and have spent the 9 years working with them as a civilian. You want to see a lowering standards, try talking to some on the LDOs they promote these days, it's all about EO, or how about all the COs the Navy has had to fire in the last 24 months.
All right. You will get no further argument from me.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 10/31/2011 - 9:38am.
Have a good day Mr. Lam Son 719.
just remember:
Submitted by UndercoverConse... on Wed, 11/02/2011 - 9:07pm.
the 9th Circuit Court has upheld the "right" to falsely represent oneself as a decorated military veteran. Just in time to add more propaganda to the mix, no doubt
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