Bitter Cold Hits Hell After Nation Editor Credits Private Sector in States That Are 'Doing Quite Well'
Chris Hayes, editor at large with the leftist-in-perpetuity Nation magazine and host of an MSNBC weekend show that starts in September, made an illuminating comment on the Rachel Maddow show the other night.
Hayes and Maddow were talking on Thursday about Texas Gov. Rick Perry's imminent jump into the presidential race and Perry's record as governor of Texas over the last decade. All that talk about prosperity in the Lone Star State during Perry's stint at the helm is so much hooey, Maddow and Hayes agreed (video after page break) --
HAYES: The biggest problem for Rick Perry is his record in Texas and even in a Republican primary that's going to come back to haunt him. Because Texas, and I know everyone wants to, you know, the conservatives like to tell us how it's the teachers' unions that are screwing up state budgets, well guess what, there's not a huge public-sector union in Texas and they have dire, dire, dire fiscal crisis right now. They are, they are billions of dollars in the hole. I mean, so, if you want to talk about responsible fiscal management, you have the governor, a sitting governor of a state that is in really bad fiscal shape.
MADDOW: But there is a grand campaign, a mainstream media campaign and a conservative campaign, to market Rick Perry as the jobs governor, because Texas, while being in atrocious fiscal shape, he will say, listen, I've been a jobs engine when the rest of the country has been draining jobs, we've been building them in Texas.
HAYES: Right, and the answer to that is that there's a lot of things that have nothing to do with Rick Perry obviously that have, you know, Nebraska is doing quite well, North Dakota is doing quite well, and that is not because of the governors in that (sic) states. That's because of sort ofindodgenous (sic)endogenous things that have happened in the private sector in those states.
"Indodgenous"? (I'm spelling it the way Hayes said it). Presumably he meant "indigenous." Regardless, Hayes is saying it is not the governors, nor by extension their state governments, responsible for both of these states "doing quite well." He's saying it is due to the private sector -- a rare admission from a liberal. It's also worth noting that Hayes did not credit the federal government for the robust economies of Nebraska and North Dakota.
Needless to say, left wingers would deem the economies of both states beyond hope if their Republican governors were running for president.
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Two piles of twigs ....
Submitted by jmigyanka@msn.com on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:26pm.
......... on a branch. Can't quite tell who is the sister or who is the brother ... but back to point. Neither of these commie libtards will be on the air next year.
I am still waiting for an answer from these idiots
Submitted by djwolf12 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:28pm.
as to why public sector unions have the right to rape and pillage the private sector in regards to funding their health care and retirement benefits. I have to work until my backside hits the bottom of my casket so the people in these unions can retire when they are 43.
ha
Submitted by elvis on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 7:16am.
haah
"Dear Elvis, Sorry about
Submitted by PaleHorse on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 4:19pm.
"Dear Elvis, Sorry about wishing you a happy birthday on the anniversary of your death. My bad. Sincerely, Michelle Bachmann."
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Bachmann-Elvis/2011/08/16/id/407558
Atrocious fiscal shape?
Submitted by octavioj on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:31pm.
What evidence did she present to state this about Texas? The Democrats in the state are howling about the cuts he and the legislature passed to balance the budget. Do they fear governor Perry that much?
The Texas constitution requires a balanced budget!
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:29pm.
There is no choice in the matter. If revenue does not meet a certain point, the expenses must be cut.
Why is so difficult for liberal nitwits like Hayes to understand that everyone has to balance their checkbook? Either he lives in his mother's basement or he is living under one of the more comfortable rocks.
If Obama can't have success then no one can.
Submitted by NeoKong on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:36pm.
All incidents of positive economic development are just randomly occurring instances that could have happened to anybody.
My Gahd Neo!
Submitted by bigdaddy on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:21pm.
These positive things occurred inspite of the Tsunami in Japan, The Arab Spring in the Middle East, The Irish Spring in Dublin, and the Broken Spring in my Lazy Boy.
Yo BigDaddy!
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:34pm.
Here's the explanation for those "headwinds".
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Gratitude Blonde!
Submitted by bigdaddy on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:41pm.
That will keep me from throwing stuff at the big screen while Oblamer's head is see-sawing between telepromptors.
De nada, BigD
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:44pm.
I laughed so hard I stole it.
Every time I see Buh-rock on the bigscreen, I merely mute it and hit the play button on that video. The braying of the ass soothes me.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
mmmhmmm
Submitted by elvis on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 7:17am.
Me too, i hate that black man.
Who let this racist troll in
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 8:06am.
Who let this racist troll in here? Will someone please bring out the ban hammer?
Go back under your rock you racist scum.
Don't let elvis fool you,
Submitted by NC Cop on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 8:16am.
Don't let elvis fool you, Scuba, he's a raging Obama lover. He is, of course, claiming that all those that criticize Obama do so because they hate black people and nothing more.
Elvis, llike most of the radical left, realize that they cannot win debates or elections based on what Obama's done, so they must rely on the race card.
How pathetic.
i don't
Submitted by elvis on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 10:08am.
like obama, he's a pussy.
'never trust purple lips'
It's the seriousness of the charge, no doubt
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:38pm.
"Indodgenous"? Imagine the furor, the hue and cry, the wailing and gnashing if Palin or Bachmann had said that.
Okay. I get it. I accidentally swerved into The Onion
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:41pm.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
If this were not the U.S. of A---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:44pm.
I suspect there would be a bounty on these two fools.
MD
Um, try ensphenoid?
Submitted by jimspice on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:47pm.
Um, try ensphenoid? http://www.google.com/search?q=define:endogenous&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en...
en·dog·e·nous/enˈdäjənəs/Adje
Submitted by poseA on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:48pm.
en·dog·e·nous/enˈdäjənəs/Adjective
1. Having an internal cause or origin.
2. Growing or originating from within an organism.
I think you're right, poseA
Submitted by Jack Coleman on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:53pm.
... and the post will be changed accordingly
Ah ha ha ! That's right Jack.
Submitted by jimspice on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:04pm.
Ah ha ha ! That's right Jack. Pick on em for crappy vocabulary then erase the evidence when it turns out it is you that are wordily challenged. AH HA HA HA!!!
~Nothing has been erased
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:11pm.
so you can stop doing the crazy-laugh-finger-point dance.
Troll.
Of course, an aye doubleyou liberal troll wouldn't---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:17pm.
recognize a correction for accuracy if it bit his butt.
MD
Thanks for pointing that out, Wrathful Brunette
Submitted by Jack Coleman on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:20pm.
Looks like there are plenty of errors to go around
~Trolls are rampant, Jack
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:29pm.
NB appears to be in their migratory flight path. The good news is there's no bag limit.
Trolls/bridges
Submitted by Jerry Mack on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:34pm.
I hope that very soon all Trolls will go back under their bridges.
~This one
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:04pm.
spent his adolescence hacking up hairballs under a bridge in Jersey, but they've classed up the joint since then. He's not allowed across the state line anymore. Perhaps we could find him a nice, cylindrical new home in the alley.
I would have used a strikethrough if it were an option. Alas, no.
If...
Submitted by jimspice on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:01pm.
If Jack maintains the strikethrough for the next 48 hours, I will offer him my sincerest praise. It's difficult to publicly admit weakness, and to do so would be a sign of integrity. But you KNOW Maddow is going to get a hold of this and have a field day. It's going to be difficult to maintain that dignity under the magnifying glass.
I guess we'll see.
~Oh my
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:29pm.
I'm sure he'll be watching the clock and hovering over the thread in breathless anticipation.
The strike through gremlins
Submitted by Denny Crane on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:15pm.
They will come and remove the text as to make Jack look good to the people that read stories 3 days later.
;-)
But on the serious side, Jack was right. Hayes used the wrong word. "—Can be confused: endogenous, indigenous." Endogenous is usually used in the context of a microorganisms or in geology. Indigenous is usually used in the context of the characteristics of a certain region.
Definitions of endogenous
–adjective
1. proceeding from within; derived internally.
2. Biology . growing or developing from within; originating within.
3. Pathology . (of a disease) resulting from conditions within the organism rather than externally caused.
4. Biochemistry . pertaining to the metabolism of nitrogenous elements of cells and tissues.
5. Geology . endogenetic.
Definition of indigenous
–adjective
1. originating in and characteristic of a particular region or country; native (often followed by to ): the plants indigenous to Canada; the indigenous peoples of southern Africa.
2. innate; inherent; natural (usually followed by to ): feelings indigenous to human beings.
We Are The 53%
First Day Stats
Submitted by jimspice on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 1:34am.
The reason why I laugh is that endogenous and exogenous variables are the first things you learn in any scientific theory or stats class. If you don't know what they mean, it sort of demonstrates that you don't have a grip on causality in the scientific sense. And if you don't, why would you pontificate on a subject?
Of course the answer is, you don't need none of that book learnin' to understand what's goin' on. Well, I invite you to choose your economic advisers and your tax accountants on these same principles. You wouldn't do that now, would you?
For every front runner in the (R) nomination process to call for the rejection of a 10-1 spending -cut/tax-increase solution to our budget/debt crisis demonstrates exactly how you place politics ahead of policy. Advocating collapsing the debt ceiling? EVERY, may I repeat, EVERY economist considers this economic suicide. Yet your front runners proudly espouse that view! No compromise. My way or the highway. Ask your parents or grandparents. WHAT'S the un-American position?
Huh?
Submitted by Denny Crane on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 1:44am.
What a bunch of nonsensical drivel.
What on earth are you blabbering about? Are you saying that Hayes used the correct word? Cuz lookin at that thar defeenition shor duz look like he wuz wrong.
Every Economist? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Just like Every Climatologist believes in AGW? ROFL
We Are The 53%
I have yet to see a post by you, jimspice---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 1:54am.
that makes much sense.
How does having either a class in scientific theory or a class in statistics bolster your reasoning in regard to real world politics?
Or economics?
Theory is just that, and statistics, at least in the realm of the politicos, are numbers than can be, and usually are, sliced and diced at will.
I call BS on your 'EVERY economist considers (collapsing the debt ceiling) economic suicide.
List 'em, then, for verification.
MD
Your website is awesome, Mr. Spice. I recommend all NBers
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:32pm.
check it out ASAP...
http://www.jimspice.com/
~That's it, he convinced me
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:36pm.
I've never seen such persuasive eloquence, such lyrical prose, such stupefying logic!
And the typography is simply, well, eloquent.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:43pm.
Who would have ever thought of using Times Roman, and in black, no less?
~He's clearly an innovator
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:41pm.
We need to step up our game, here.
Alright, three typos in an hour, I think I'm laughing too hard.
It's like a blank page
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:20pm.
Except for the Jimspice up in the left corner. Other then that, perfect.
jimspice.com---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:44pm.
revealing the totality of liberal knowledge, thought processes, and intellectual accomplishment.
MD
Ya see...
Submitted by jimspice on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:44pm.
Since I started on Usenet in 1990, I've never hidden behind a screen name -- it's always been jimspice. But it seems certain knobs would take message board disagreements to my business site and various directories and business listings. I now keep my private name and professional name separate. I just use that domain for email and testing now. Certain types of people just can't recognize appropriate boundaries. Why would you care who I am anyway? Want a date. Sorry. Taken.
You're a liberal, jimspice---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:47pm.
what would you know about 'appropriate boundaries'?
Unless, of course, you refer to the ones conservatives MUST be confined within.
MD
"Testing." LOL.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:52pm.
"Appropriate boundaries"? Hey Dumbass, who is linking the site as his tagline in every post?
PS: pay the extra $15 for private DNS registration before you go waving your pecker around in public.
And a cheap pecker,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:55pm.
to boot.
MD
MD:
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:01pm.
I'm happy to verify that after six years of the domain being in existence, the testing of 16-point Times Roman, in black, went extremely well.
No anomalies or bugs were encountered, and it's now a go. Stay tuned for further announcements.
See? I was right! That's just
Submitted by jimspice on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:15pm.
See? I was right! That's just how your type operates.
How did you know, jimspice---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:26pm.
that SoL was the 16-point Times Roman type?
Damn, you are good.
MD
~Do you always carry a magnifying glass with you?
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:59pm.
Or was this a fortuitous coincidence?
Both.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:02pm.
But microbiology is just a hobby.
SOL
Submitted by jimspice on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:13pm.
Hey SOL, it's there for reasons your tiny little brain could never comprehend. See, now it's the conservative tendency to run out and iGraffiti my reputation. Don't you just want to. That's what I mean about boundaries.
Gotta have a decent reputation, jimspice,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:35pm.
in the first place, in order to qualify for getting it downgraded.
Yours, here, is so many light years away from 'decent' that it only qualifies as a "RIPutation".
So, that is what we gladly do.
No thanks is necessary; you have earned our efforts.
.MD
~He's gotta thing about boundaries
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:39pm.
I think we peed on his grass, or sumthin'.
Keep it up, gomerspice
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:41pm.
As your "pyle" is getting deeper with each successive post.
And the shiny green flies are gathering.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
next week
Submitted by grammajane on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:48pm.
Last month Palin, last week Bachman, and now this week Perry. Bash, bash, and who will it be next week? These irresponsible libs are just going all out to question every move and word said by a Conservative candidate. Their whole life appears to be out doing each other with their so-called knowledge of politics. It is becoming so repetative and boring. BO was here in MN today and appeared before a very small crowd and even less cheers and clapping for his "hope and change" Had to throw in blaming Bush again and kept repeating how we all have to fight for his agenda.Not sure what he means about American's fighting, all the time.
Wheel of Bash
Submitted by Jerry Mack on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:04pm.
Media Alert: Coming very soon to MSDNC an exciting new show hosted by returning icon Olberwhacky. Contestants will get to spin a wheel to select the latest conservative to be bashed by the LAMERS. Call 1-800-DIMICRAT! Join the fun now! We must save the Messiah!
These irresponsible libs are
Submitted by MikeB on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:12pm.
These irresponsible libs are just going all out to question every move and word said by a non-Communist candidate.
FIFY
I like turtles.
Submitted by jimspice on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 1:59am.
I like turtles.
I believe this left wing bomb
Submitted by Barack Must Go on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:06pm.
I believe this left wing bomb thrower is following in the ( disingenuous ) footsteps of Bill O'Reilly.
Both would sell their mother to the devil to land the biggest, stinkiest fish from the opposing party.
In either case it simply stinks to high heaven.
Barbed wire rash
Submitted by Jerry Mack on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:23pm.
Can not remember the cigar smoking cowboy hat wearing man's name from Texas that told BOR that he(BOR) had barbed wire rash which is caused by straddling the fence.
Jerry Mack---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 3:06am.
Kinky Friedman?
MD
Legendary country/rocker
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 3:07am.
Legendary country/rocker right-wing cigar-smoking character..............where is he these days??? He's an interesting cat..........
He is a first class loon up
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 6:32am.
He is a first class loon up there with Ron Paul. Sometimes lucid and sometimes not.
does not compute
Submitted by Tjexcite on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:07pm.
Blame Perry for high debt in Texas
Don't give Perry credit for high job growth in Texas.
Neat trick...
Submitted by dtruth27 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:28pm.
How in the world did they do this split screen where Rachel Maddow interviews herself. Chris Hayes... that's a made up name if I've ever seen one.
Another problem with Hayes comments
Submitted by Denny Crane on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:02pm.
He was talking about how the huge debt that Texas has. But that is relative. Texas is a big state. Per capita they have one of the least debt burdens in the country.
"And Texas ranked 39th among the states, at $612 per capita, in net tax-supported debt, the report says. The national average for states was $1,404. The states with less debt than Texas were all less populous: Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Montana, Arkansas, South Dakota, North Dakota, Wyoming, Iowa and Nebraska, which is listed as having the least per-capita net tax-supported debt among the states at $13."
source
We Are The 53%
I see where Boy Blamer has
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:11am.
I see where Boy Blamer has said that we have 'run into a streak of bad luck'................well, DUH!!! Hey, Barry, have you ever considered that the 'bad luck' was YOU?????
Stupid question, actually..............it's ALWAYS about him, as long as it's good news. It's ALWAYS about anyone and anything else, if it's bad news...........
They are brothers, right? Or sisters?
Submitted by johnsonl on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 6:12am.
Which one has the thickest "smart guy" glasses? Which one is gayer?
Jack. Did anyone mention
Submitted by Zippy on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 6:24am.
Jack.
Did anyone mention North Dakota and Nebraska Gov. have an (R) behind their name?