Ed Schultz Condemns 10 Percent Tax on New Businesses in North Dakota as 'Financial Rape'
Radio talker and MSNBC rock 'em, sock 'em robot Ed Schultz has finally met a tax he doesn't like and which, go figure, affected him directly -- a 10 percent payroll tax imposed by North Dakota on new businesses for their first two years, after which it drops to a seemingly generous two percent.
Schultz, whose family owns a construction business in Fargo, N.D., says the tax has cost their business "into the thousands." His angry rant about it quickly morphed into a gratuituous excuse to bash Republican candidates for president -- you know, those diehard true-believers in higher taxes and job-killing red tape.
Here's Schultz letting loose on this during his radio show Tuesday, after complaining that GOP candidates debating in New Hampshire did not address problems facing owners of small businesses (audio here) --
I will use our small construction company as an example. And, no, I'm not doing this to try to get phone calls and get more jobs. We've got plenty of work, we do. We're very fortunate. We got four crews out working, we're upwards of 20-plus employees and we've grown from six employees to where we are right now. We've bid on a lot of stuff, we've done a lot of stuff. But I want to tell you what I think could be done to help the risk takers, and I am just that, get back into the market with the cash that could be there if government would give the little guy a break. Now, if you're a business owner and you have to meet payroll, you may be able to relate to what I'm saying.
Now, where we do business in the state of North Dakota there's a thing called North Dakota Job Service and that, of course, deals with unemployment. If you're a start-up business, you have to pay 10 percent of your payroll, no matter what that is, for the first two years, because the failure rate is high. Ten percent. Ten percent. If you could get 10 percent on a CD, would you invest? You're damn right you would. If you could get a guaranteed 10 percent on an investment in the stock market, would you do it? Well, hell ya, you would! There isn't anybody out there right now that would pass up 10 percent. And I'm trying to give you a visual, if you could imagine the severity of what 10 percent is to a business owner who is starting up.
So we went through the start-up costs of having to pay 10 percent of our salary to the state, North Dakota Job Service, for the first two years. Why? Because somebody else failed?! Wait a minute! I'm in this for the long haul! I have the capability to write the check! I'm not going to fail! Why are you sticking it to me?! I don't plan on laying anybody off, I plan on making it! So the mindset by the Republicans is negative off the top. Am I picking on the old state? Yes I am, because it's controlled by the Republicans in the House and the Senate.
Now, after two years, if you're still in business, that now drops down to two percent. I still think that's too high! Why isn't it one percent?
Why stop there, Ed -- how about zero percent? Sounds to me like this is a government-run employment agency -- for bureaucrats. The Mafia engages in a similar practice of shaking down owners of small businesses. Legally this is known as extortion. At least when gangsters do it they don't pretend to be motivated by altruism.
Is it much of a stretch to wonder if the jobless rate in North Dakota would drop if entrepreneurs weren't hit up with a 10 percent payroll tax -- on top of everything else they pay to the local, state and federal governments?
Schultz elaborated --
Why isn't it attached to the amount of loans that I've got out against the company and the kind of risk that I'm taking? Why isn't it some formula that's set up that proves that I'm serious about being successful, I can be successful, and I shouldn't have to pay this extra money to the state because they claim that they need a fund. That's BS! I wish I could swear right now! This is the kind of stuff that I want to hear from people who know how to make payroll, who know what this is all about! This is financial rape, in my opinion. Now, 10 percent?! For the first two years?! OK, so we weather the storm and you know how often we had guys on unemployment? I don't know the exact figure, but I can tell you, well I was told, it's far less than other companies. Well, where's my rebate? Do you know how much money that is? It's into the thousands.
Schultz further stated the payroll tax is actually 11 percent, the added one percent allegedly needed to cover the costs of workplace injuries. He said it galls him this takes place while Congress just approved extension of tax breaks for oil companies (audio here) --
What do I get? I don't get squat! Where's my break? Where's my subsidy? I don't get squat! You know what I get? I get tight credit. I get every bank sniffing my shorts. I get a 10 percent, then I get an 11 percent. Tell me why I want to do this?! And I know I speak for millions of small business owners across the country. This is what, and they say that this is Obama's fault? Oh no, no, no, no. No. no, no. This isn't President Obama's fault. This is the Republican Party and the way they have refused to go to bat for those out there who are willing to get into the market and do something with their capital.
And I didn't hear it from Romney, I didn't hear it from Pawlenty. Well, look at their job record. They didn't create squat when they were governor! And they all are blaming President Obama on job creation? How many jobs has Michele Bachmann created? How about Newt? How many jobs has he created? What do these people know about making payroll? You know how most of them make their money? They go out and beg for it from rich donors and they set up some think tank and that's how they survive.
But when it comes to checks and balances and services and services rendered, they ain't there. The Republicans are phonies when it comes to business!
Looks like Schultz is undergoing yet another metamorphosis. He used to be conservative, then decided liberalism was a better fit.
Now he has a new persona -- Ed Schultz, tea partier.
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Comments
What a moron!
Submitted by inquiringmind on Thu, 06/16/2011 - 5:52pm.
What a moron!
I thought more taxes was a good thing?
Submitted by scarebear83 on Thu, 06/16/2011 - 5:54pm.
But I thought liberals wanted to pay more in taxes? Shouldn't he be happy he's paying more taxes?
You forget,
Submitted by Bob K on Thu, 06/16/2011 - 8:32pm.
it is only when someone else is paying the taxes that they love it.
WOAH....... WAIT A DANG MINUTE
Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Thu, 06/16/2011 - 5:56pm.
This is a tax on NEW companies hes been talking about this "construction business" that his family owns for a couple of years now. IF its not a new business he won't pay the 10% this..... in other words....... HE LIED HE ISN'T PAYING THIS TAX AT ALL!!!! HEY FAT EDDIE AS OF THIS MINUTE I CALL BULLS%#T ON YOUR CLAIM THAT ITS COSTING YOUR THOUSANDS!
Wouldn't Ed's family like the new tax?
Submitted by JeffC... on Thu, 06/16/2011 - 6:33pm.
If Ed's family's company has been around, they're paying 2%, not 10%. So, the burden would be on the new companies, like the ones who would compete with Ed's family's construction company.
Heck, I'd bet that Ed's family gave money to the politicians who supported the 10% tax rate.
Chubby little Ed
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Thu, 06/16/2011 - 5:56pm.
Chubby little redhead Ed shouldn't be making rape jokes.
It's the liberal mantra
Submitted by Dave. on Thu, 06/16/2011 - 5:57pm.
Taxes are for thee, not for me.
Obviously Red Ed resents having to pay his "fair share," but he'll support the government screwing your employer right into the ground with higher taxes in a heartbeat.
God, what a transparent hypocrite he is.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
uuuuhh...Ed...
Submitted by MidAmerica on Thu, 06/16/2011 - 6:02pm.
I believe everyone benefits when you spread the wealth around.
Hey, Special Ed, that 10% isn't a "tax" . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Thu, 06/16/2011 - 8:31pm.
. . . it's an investment.
That's what the Democrats have been telling us since the Bill Clinton daze.
You've wanted the rich to pay their' fair share,' so can shut up and pay it.
Hilarious, Jack!!
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 06/16/2011 - 8:53pm.
a tax he doesn't like and which, go figure, affected him directly
No, no, no....I meant we should tax OTHER businesses, not MINE!!
Shortbus Eddie is just mad because
Submitted by djwolf12 on Thu, 06/16/2011 - 9:01pm.
he lost 1 week of pay for calling Laura Ingraham a slut. He may have to go and file bankruptcy. Oh, this tiny violin that I'm holding is playing taps is for you. Hie is mad because he complained that his little scandal cost him $$$ and Tony Dick's didn't (atleast at that particular moment in time). Tony Dick told the American taxpayers: "Screw You, I'm demanding YOU STILL PAY MY SALARY to stay in Congress".
Irony so thick......
Submitted by GregE on Thu, 06/16/2011 - 9:04pm.
........it's holding hail.
Ed = Red Menace + Leona Helmsley.
Submitted by drsamherman on Thu, 06/16/2011 - 9:23pm.
So let's get this right, Ed. You are moaning about high taxes and then complaining about "tax cuts for the rich"?
I don't know if even the fastest computer could keep up with Ed's mood swings.
Resort
Submitted by grammajane on Thu, 06/16/2011 - 10:53pm.
Didn't Big Red also buy some posh resort where the best and biggest fish in the country are caught? With all his money and big business and tv/stardom why is he complaining about a 10% tax increase. Gee, the way he brags and blabs, would have thought money is no issue to this muti-millionaire.
Am I the only one who heard Ed say on C-SPAN that his companies
Submitted by 1dottiemarty on Fri, 06/17/2011 - 7:39am.
received STIMULUS MONEY? Isn't that a huge conflict of interest regarding what he does for a living? Anyone looking into THAT?
Ed, met George
Submitted by Pilgrim1949 on Fri, 06/17/2011 - 9:04am.
...as in, good ol' George McGovern, another big nanny-state and government regulation worshipper who, when finally out of public office and attempting to start up a private business of his own, ran face to face into some of the regulatory brick walls he'd previously championed.
In a sudden -- and all too rare -- Dem/Lib epiphany, he realized the future-job-killing effects of the strangling and inhibiting straightjackets with which he and his cronies had hobbled prospective entrepeneurs. Unfortunately, it was only when he himself was personally affected, which is almost non-existent for most of our insulated and protected Exalted Overload Rulers.
Maybe Pogo summed it up rather well --- "We have met the enemy and he is us!"
"Ye canne change the laws of physics....." but some politicians believe that with the right legislation you can pretend they don't really apply to your own pet projects...
Schultz
Submitted by jessieH on Fri, 06/17/2011 - 9:48am.
Gotta spread the wealth, Schultzy. You wanted it- you got it.
Liberalsarefunny
Submitted by liberalsarefunny on Fri, 06/17/2011 - 12:11pm.
Does this guy ever listen to himself?
Reminds me
Submitted by GW on Fri, 06/17/2011 - 2:08pm.
of Rosie O'Donnell (or was it someone else?) who was pro-union until she had to hire a union orchestra for her Broadway show and the costs ran her out of business. Then there's the newspaper (Huff po or WaPo?) that was pro-union except for their own writers.
Wannabe Tyrant Complains About Being Treated Like a Peon
Submitted by Tenebrous on Fri, 06/17/2011 - 8:20pm.
That's really what this is about, folks. Ed Schulz is special. He's liberal. He shouldn't have to pay the taxes that ordinary people do. To have this happen to him is so unfair. In fact, it's some kind of sexual violation! Why, he should be the one violating other people and taking their money!
Visions and Principles blog
This is a recurring theme
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Sat, 06/18/2011 - 8:01am.
This is a recurring theme with ed, when it is your money taxing is ok, when it's his money hands off. This retard constant obesses about "his" money, his jealously of Rush is incredible.
So if I tell the government I plan to succeed I should be tax exempt? Ed continues to be the biggest retard on TV.