Maddow Mocks Wisconsin GOP for Opposing Public-Sector Unions - Which Were Also Opposed By FDR
Normally you'd expect a left-winger like MSNBC's Rachel Maddow to do cartwheels if current-day Republicans agree with opinions held by Franklin Roosevelt during the depths of the Great Depression.
This is not one of those times, however, as we are learning during the ongoing battle in Wisconsin over public-sector unions.
What's happening in Wisconsin, according to Maddow, is an existential threat not just to unions but to the Democratic Party. Since the Supreme Court ruling last year in Citizens United v. FEC, Maddow said on her show Friday, Republicans have increased their advantage in political donations from outside groups such as corporations, unions and advocacy groups --
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MADDOW: In terms of substantial, game-changing money players in politics, unions are it. They are the only big players on the liberal side. They are the only fish of any real size on the liberal side. And so they must be destroyed. The Republican Party right now has the most direct incentive you can possibly imagine to use public policy to destroy unions. Thirty-six percent of public employees are unionized? Oh no, that cannot stand.
Maddow then showed a brief clip of her MSNBC colleague Chris Matthews interviewing Wisconsin Republican state senator Glenn Grothman --
MATTHEWS: Get rid of the public employee unions all together, just get rid of them.
GROTHMAN: Personally ...
MATTHEWS: Yeah!
GROTHMAN: ... I cannot see that Scott Walker would. Personally I would, yes.
MATTHEWS: You'd like to get rid of the unions. So you don't believe in collective bargaining for public employees, period.
GROTHMAN: No, I don't think public employees need collective bargaining. That's correct.
Back to Maddow, who sarcastically echoed Grothman's remarks --
MADDOW: That's correct, absolutely. Public employees should not be in unions, says the Republican state senator from Wisconsin. Democrats do not tend to think like this.
... with the awkward exception of Franklin Roosevelt, the definitive Democrat of the last century. In a devastatingly effective column titled "FDR's Ghost is Smiling on Wisconsin's Governor," Milwaukee Journal Sentinel columnist Patrick McIlheran writes --
Somewhere, Franklin Delano Roosevelt is grinning past his cigarette holder at Wisconsin's governor. They are on the same page regarding government unions.
Except that Scott Walker -- Republican cheapskate, his visage Hitlerized on signs waved by beet-faced union crowds besieging the Capitol -- is kind of a liberal squish compared to FDR. He's OK with some collective bargaining. ...
Roosevelt's reign certainly was the bright dawn of modern unionism. The legal and administrative paths that led to 35 percent of the nation's workforce eventually unionizing by a mid-1950s peak were laid by Roosevelt.
But only for the private sector. Roosevelt openly opposed bargaining rights for government unions. (emphasis added)
"The process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be translated into the public service," Roosevelt wrote in 1937 to the National Federation of Federal Employees. Yes, public workers may demand fair treatment, wrote Roosevelt. But, he wrote, "I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place" in the public sector. "A strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government."
If you're the kind of guy who capitalizes "government," woe betide such obstructionists.
McIlheran points out it was "orthodoxy" among Democrats well into the 1950s "that unions didn't belong in government work." The shift away from this belief started in 1959 in -- you guessed it, Wisconsin -- when Gov. Gaylord Nelson signed the law allowing collective bargaining for state workers. Other states followed suit, and teachers were soon unionizing as well.
Still, opposition to this trend remained in place on the political left -- in, of all places, again Wisconsin -- according to McIlheran --
Frank Zeidler, Milwaukee's mayor in the 1950s and the last card-carrying Socialist to head a major U.S. city, supported labor. But in 1969, the progressive icon wrote that the rise of unions in government work put a competing power in charge of public business next to elected officials. Government unions "can mean considerable loss of control over the budget, and hence over tax rates," he warned.
There was "a revolutionary principle rather quietly at work in American government," he wrote.
Flash forward four decades, and Gov. Walker is a revolutionary seeking to dismantle this dubious "principle" while union apologists are shrill reactionaries defending an unsustainable status quo.
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If Rachel Maddow manages to devalue the Rhodes Scholarship...
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 11:36pm.
...much further, you will be able to buy one on a street corner for nothing more than a bottle of rot gut and a carton of no-name cigarettes - in broad daylight.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
street corner sales
Submitted by Agnostic on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 11:40pm.
Two for ones on Rhodes scholarships and bonus Nobels for the first 10 customers - just for showing up.
Agnostic,
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 11:55pm.
Hey, now that sounds like a deal.
:-)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Dave 15 quatloos sez, she'll jump for an authentic carbon credit
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 11:48pm.
You Didn't Build That.
ucw,
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:31am.
LOL - Carbon credits are sinking almost as fast as Al's AGW scam and the dollar.
They'd better hurry.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
I am offended....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:34pm.
...that you would refer to our beloved fortified wines as "rot gut". We connoisseurs prefer to call them bum wines, street wines, fortified wines, wino wines, or twist-cap wines. But never "rot gut".
Oh, um......nevermind.
MD 20/20 and Night Train Express...
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:39pm.
aah, many happy teenage massive-splitting hangovers.
Maddow officially has no moral compass whatsoever.
Submitted by Ashrak on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 11:36pm.
Maddow is nothing but a liar.
Buffet - Big Fish
Gates - Big Fish
Soros - Big Fish
Ford Foundation - Big FIsh
Joyce Foundation - Big fish
And that list is eeeeeeeenormous.
Union dues are only a kingmaker because so many states are not 'right to work' and people are forced to pay into a system where their money is spent on political campaigns that they profoundly disagree with. And THAT is what Maddow is AFRAID of losing access to and why she, along with so many others, are willing to outright LIE day in and day out trying to protect.
Personally, I am happy to see them continue to lie this way. More and more people are seeing this clan for what they are and rather than ginning up support, they are actually ginning up opposition.
I was just reading EJ Dionne lamenting that Obama is losing and the TEA Party is winning.
The implosion continues.
I had two points...
Submitted by beauxdog on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:27am.
and you grabbed both of them.
To your list:
GE
MSM
Hollywood and musicians
Progressive Insurance and the Gecko too
Levi Strauss
New York Times and all the other times
NFL
Two the second point, I was going to ask... how many of the 36% of public sector employees that belong to unions do so voluntarily? That is a statistic I think that would tell it all.
Duplicate because this new system sucks
Submitted by beauxdog on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:32am.
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Poor Rachel. She fails to
Submitted by kg on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 6:18am.
Poor Rachel. She fails to realize that Unions are nothing but large corporations looking out for their own interests.
"DumbAssity of Dope"
It's tiring hearing the Left
Submitted by Van Halen on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 12:12am.
It's tiring watching the Left edify this woman for her brilliance when every single week the bricks of stupidity that drop from her mouth can be heard hitting the ground a mile away.
Poor Madcow
Submitted by donabernathy on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:50am.
she sees a spooky conspiracy everywhere.... oooooooo the Republicans...want to eat your children....... they want to poison the air........... they want you to die quickly........Bwahahahahahahaha... what an idiot.....oooooooooo...be afraid....be very afraid....
roflmao
Q: What do you get if you
Submitted by johnsonl on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 7:50am.
Q: What do you get if you drive slowly past Oxford University?
A: A Master's degree in television journalism!
Public unions opposed by FDR?
Submitted by JLin on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:12am.
Now ain't that a bit*h for the Euro trash Marxist Left. The Progressive Zeus himself was against public unions - and for good reason. He at least looked to building a better America. His socialist progeny actively seek to destroy it. Methinks the old guy would be appalled if he saw what the progressives have become.
Maybe the American Maoist Revolutionary Guard can volunteer to go overseas to help prop up the totalitarian regimes in China and Lybia. At least they will be able to keep up their "community organizer" skills.
Rachel, Rachel, Rachel (stupid, stupid, stupid)
Submitted by tjc-illinois on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 11:18am.
You can't fix STUPID!!!!
Apparently she got her Rhoades Scholarship from the same mail order site where she orders her Snap On tools.
'Well, to tell the family secret, my grandmother was Dutch." Bart
Democracy in Action?
Submitted by MLGoodell on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 12:50pm.
Someone at the #wiunion hashtag tweeted that the insurrection in Madison is "Democracy in Action." I thought, if that's democracy in action, I would hate to see mob rule. I wrote a piece about it, in which I said "The good news is President Barack H. Obama (D–Chi.), has finally found the leader of a state he’s willing to stand up to. The bad news is it’s the democratically elected Governor of Wisconsin."
I also aked if since union members automatically elevate their interests above those of their employers, which means they are opposed to their employers' interests, does this mean that public employees, who work for the American people, are by definition anti-American upon joining a public employee union?
Read "Democracy in Action" at